[Q] HTC HD7 Screen - HD7 General

Hi All,
after the launch yesterday i'm quite excited to pick up my windows mobile 7 at the end of this month. But i have a question, will the htc hd7 screen be the same as the HTC HD2? if so why?
How would you compare it to the IPHONE 4 screen?
Also, o2 UK are releasing HTC HD7 on the 21st Oct, is that the case with TMobile UK too?

HD7 has super LCD screen. HD2 has standard TFT LCD. super LCD is comparable with SUPER AMOLED screens.

powersquad said:
HD7 has super LCD screen. HD2 has standard TFT LCD. super LCD is comparable with SUPER AMOLED screens.
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super LCD, excellent, this was the only thing worrying me...

powersquad said:
HD7 has super LCD screen. HD2 has standard TFT LCD. super LCD is comparable with SUPER AMOLED screens.
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Where you getting that info from, the HTC site doesnt say anything other than the size of the screen and the res.
Disapointed with the specs of the HD7 compared to the HD2, they look pretty much the same bar less buttons and WinMo7...

powersquad said:
HD7 has super LCD screen. HD2 has standard TFT LCD. super LCD is comparable with SUPER AMOLED screens.
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Hows it compared to super amoled and Retina?

Trig0r said:
Where you getting that info from, the HTC site doesnt say anything other than the size of the screen and the res.
Disapointed with the specs of the HD7 compared to the HD2, they look pretty much the same bar less buttons and WinMo7...
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completely agree.... but i'm confident HD7 will be good. I just cant be bothered waiting for a WP7 port for HD2. Going to sell it...
TMOBILE UK HD7 Release? anyone

rafter_01 said:
completely agree.... but i'm confident HD7 will be good. I just cant be bothered waiting for a WP7 port for HD2. Going to sell it...
TMOBILE UK HD7 Release? anyone
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I'm being told that the HD7 is going to be o2 only for a while.

Trig0r said:
I'm being told that the HD7 is going to be o2 only for a while.
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i hope it can be unlocked

yes practically identical. HTC retained the form factor because HD2 has been so successful - so why change? and besides, the HD7 is supposed to offer really good GPU which HD2 is sorely lacking

Trig0r said:
I'm being told that the HD7 is going to be o2 only for a while.
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really gutted about this. Was hoping it would come out on TMOBILE. How long does it normally take to unlock new devices?

Wandy_1974 said:
yes practically identical. HTC retained the form factor because HD2 has been so successful - so why change? and besides, the HD7 is supposed to offer really good GPU which HD2 is sorely lacking
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Your thinking the newer smaller CPU (45nm instead of the current 65nm) which has some different GPU in it, for now the CPU in the HD2 and HD7 are the same as is the GPU, if WinMo7 is tweaked for a certain spec then we could see more performance from the same hardware but the dual core/better GPU chips will probably be mid next year now..

Even if we get dual core CPU's with better GPU's by the end of next year, I doubt Microsoft would allow devs to fully utilise those specs, making launch devices useless (and consumers angry). Plus devs have to make their apps/games compatible with the lowest spec device to be able to make money anyway.
Regarding the OP, the HD7s screen is supposedly a standard LCD TFT screen according the Slashgear who have an article comparing the HD7 with the IP4
"Furthermore, the HD7′s display is just an LCD TFT display, and in today’s age where we have Super AMOLED displays, Super LCD, IPS, and especially Retina Displays, it just doesn’t compete. That doesn’t mean that the HD7′s display is bad in its own right, but comparing it to the iPhone 4′s Retina Display just shows how far back the HD7 is when it comes to displays, even if it is huge"
Source: http://www.slashgear.com/htc-hd7-vs-iphone-4-11107287/

Wandy_1974 said:
yes practically identical. HTC retained the form factor because HD2 has been so successful - so why change? and besides, the HD7 is supposed to offer really good GPU which HD2 is sorely lacking
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the better graphics in not because hd7's GPU (it has the same as hd2 ) but becauseof the good graphics drivers supplied by microsoft and that what htc couldn't do for long years , that is why all wp7 devices have same processor , as drivers are supplied by microsft not the the manufacturing company

So basically then there are what you could call reference phones in the same way nVidia/ATi release reference graphics cards..
We now have to sit back and wait a few months until all the OEM's start tweaking units and get a bit more creative...

What the different between QSD8250 v/s MSM8250?
As I know QSD is 1st generation while MSM is 2nd generation using smaller semiconductor Technology which is 45nm than 1st generation which is 65nm.
Beside this, 1st generation using Adreno 200 GPU but 2nd generation using Adreno 205.
From spec, it seems MSM8250 better, at least it use newer GPU.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor)
and HD7 not for O2 only.
Singapore is launching it next Thursday (21-October-2010)

Andrewtst said:
What the different between QSD8250 v/s MSM8250?
As I know QSD is 1st generation while MSM is 2nd generation using smaller semiconductor Technology which is 45nm than 1st generation which is 65nm.
Beside this, 1st generation using Adreno 200 GPU but 2nd generation using Adreno 205.
From spec, it seems MSM8250 better, at least it use newer GPU.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snapdragon_(processor)
and HD7 not for O2 only.
Singapore is launching it next Thursday (21-October-2010)
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nothing is named msm 8250 ,look at qualcomm website
1st generation (QSD 8250& 8650), second generation
(msm7x30 & msm8x55) http://www.qualcomm.com/products_services/chipsets/snapdragon.html

Hd7 has S-LED @ 16m colors, while Hd2 is tft @ 65k
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tipduncan said:
Hd7 has S-LED @ 16m colors, while Hd2 is tft @ 65k
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Sauce, please?

coolfire said:
Sauce, please?
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Tomatoe.

tipduncan said:
Hd7 has S-LED @ 16m colors, while Hd2 is tft @ 65k
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hd2 screen is not 65k , it is soft limitation not hardware

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[Q] Galaxy S I9000 vs HD2

well I'm planning to get a new phone last next week
or sometime in Jan before my b'day
I'm just wondering, how does android on the HD2 compare vs the Galaxy S I9000?
Please don't turn this into a flame war
I just want some facts and figures
cheers all
Better screen and slimmer phone - galaxy s.
Chunkier, crappier screen - hd2.
krazykat said:
Better screen and slimmer phone - galaxy s.
Chunkier, crappier screen - hd2.
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how about in terms of software manipulation?
Mr.Pie[OCN] said:
how about in terms of software manipulation?
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SGS software is 2.2.1 natively, 2.3 gingerbread soon.
Hardware is far superior than htc hd2 except screen size. Cpu, gpu are all better than hd2.
Hd2 may be very cheap now as the winmo platform goes away forever, sgs is current device so it's supposed to be more expensive.
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HD2 plus: Better GPS, Flash led, bigger display.
SGS plus: Better (Gorillaglass/AMOLED) display, GPU faster and used better, lighter, better audio chip.
I am one of hd2man. I like this very much but there are some problem! 720p recording and play(like bluelay) not supported and gpu and sound qulity is lower. finally it has multi-touch bug! And because of nexus s, Android will be optimised for hurming(?) bird. But cotulla who is developer will release wp7 for hd2. I can use various OS in only one platform is reason for using this!
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HD7S released on AT&T

So how do my fellow HD7 owners feel about this:
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/devices/htc-hd7s.jsp
No difference but the S-LCD screen which is quite a big upgrade in the screen department. Other than better viewing angles, what are the advantages of it?
Jonno2343 said:
So how do my fellow HD7 owners feel about this:
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/devices/htc-hd7s.jsp
No difference but the S-LCD screen which is quite a big upgrade in the screen department. Other than better viewing angles, what are the advantages of it?
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Hmmm... I wonder if we will be able to purchase the S-LCD screen to replace the normal LCD if we want to?
Does anyone think this would work?
Glad to see this coming to AT&T but I always love to have more choice. I wonder if this phone will be HSPA+ 14.4 enabled? That would give it a nice speed bump over the current crop of phones offered. I currently use a Samsung Focus and really love it. I might pass this to the wife and snatch up an HD7S if the price is decent.
i too have the focus and glad att is picking up the hd7 with the slcd. tempted to pick one up when released
I am angry...
I don't know what i should do. Sell my HD7 on Ebay and then wait for the S version?
I don't think the S version is going to T-Mobile. It'll probably use AT&T 3G bands which doesn't include 1700. Same reason I can't get a Dell Venue Pro. I don't want to be stuck with EDGE. Hopefully, we'll see some more phones/info from the CTIA this weekend.
was thinking about getting the Bell version or whatever one worked with at&t but now I can just wait. Wonder what the off contract price will be.
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Tempest790 said:
I don't think the S version is going to T-Mobile. It'll probably use AT&T 3G bands which doesn't include 1700. Same reason I can't get a Dell Venue Pro. I don't want to be stuck with EDGE. Hopefully, we'll see some more phones/info from the CTIA this weekend.
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I have a question. Does HD7 Hardware support 4G or HSPA+ from T-Mobile? Or it is just a problem that Windows Phone 7 doesn't support it yet?
BTW, i have read several articles at Bing and found out, HD7 + S-LCD Screen = HD7S, that all. and the S-LCD gives us a better angle of viewing. The S-LCD is still far away from the Super AMOLED Screen. If HTC put the Super AMOLED in HD7, i will sell my current HD7 right away.
I will not take a S-LCD for a better viewing angle and have a more-expensive plan from AT&T.
Sorry for my bad English
Strike_Eagle said:
The S-LCD is still far away from the Super AMOLED Screen. If HTC put the Super AMOLED in HD7, i will sell my current HD7 right away.
I will not take a S-LCD for a better viewing angle and have a more-expensive plan from AT&T.
Sorry for my bad English
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It's probably never gonna happen. First of all currently AMOLED or Super AMOLED is in constant short supply. Even Samsung itself has to limit certain phones sold to certain countires use S-LCD instead of SAMOLED.
Second of all, current Super AMOLED is 4" and the future Super AMOLED 2 is 4.5". There is no 4.3" variant. So it won't fit current HD7 size unless HTC redesigns the whole thing.
This device also comes with the NoDo update which HD7 on T-Mobile are still waiting to receive..
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This device also comes with the NoDo update which HD7 on T-Mobile are still waiting to receive..
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you mean were waiting to receive
I played around with it today at CTIA and its more than just the viewing angles. The colors are very vibrant compared to the HD7. Its brighter as well. I will pick up an Samsung S II and the HD7S for AT&T networks.
Please excuse my ignorance with WP7 lately. I returned the HD7 when they first came out due to bad reception in my area. But I was wondering how GV voice now ? Is there anything that works like Google Voice? Its a very important thing i have Google voice on my phones.
Thanks
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itsedstech said:
you mean were waiting to receive
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Nope, are.
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Jonno2343 said:
Nope, are.
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your right
Strike_Eagle said:
I am angry...
I don't know what i should do. Sell my HD7 on Ebay and then wait for the S version?
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the att version will replace the t-mobile version once the merger is done, because none of our hd7's will have 3g by then.
foxbat121 said:
It's probably never gonna happen. First of all currently AMOLED or Super AMOLED is in constant short supply. Even Samsung itself has to limit certain phones sold to certain countires use S-LCD instead of SAMOLED.
Second of all, current Super AMOLED is 4" and the future Super AMOLED 2 is 4.5". There is no 4.3" variant. So it won't fit current HD7 size unless HTC redesigns the whole thing.
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Never heared about this before. Can they just make 4.3 one ?
That would be perfect.
@mr8820: Not really sure, almost all websites comfirm the HD7S has the same hardware as the HD7, except the S-LCD Screen. the HD7 of T-Mobile even doesn't support their HSPA+ , only HSPA, no 4G love.
I will keep this baby for at least 1 Year, until i find something more interesting. I am not a really big fan of Android so i have no plan of buying Desire HD or EVO 4G, Thunderbolt right now.
Here's a video of it.
Honestly doesn't look that much better, still some colour distortion at extreme angles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpBqn6puWfc

[Q] Nexus One vs HD2

I have just sold my iPhone and I plan on getting an Android device for under $250 off contract. Two options that caught my eye were the Nexus One and HD2 (not an official Android device I know).
I was wondering if there were any specific advantages of the Nexus One over the HD2? Both seem to have rather enthusiastic developer communities (if I recall correctly, they both received Gingerbread ports on the same day) and the hardware on both are equally as solid IMO. Here are the pro's of each I have gathered so far -
Nexus One
AMOLED display
official Google device (thus more people working on it, faster official updates)
metal construction
notification light trackball
HD2
4.3" display
metal construction
physical buttons
seems to have an enthusiastic modding community in terms of Android ports
can boot Windows Phone 7 as well
Any words of advice?
HD2 - Better Digitizer and no power button problems.
It really comes down to the screen size and which you prefer. If my Nexus One ever has anything more than the power button fail and an easily hackable 4.3" device has not come out yet and I can get an HD2 for a reasonable price I would get that to hold me over.
evilkorn said:
HD2 - Better Digitizer and no power button problems.
It really comes down to the screen size and which you prefer. If my Nexus One ever has anything more than the power button fail and an easily hackable 4.3" device has not come out yet and I can get an HD2 for a reasonable price I would get that to hold me over.
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So aside from screen size preference and the faulty power button, are there any other advantages/disadvantages of each? I think I would prefer the 4.3" display over the Nexus One's 3.7" given that its LCD is not much worse than the AMOLED.
The specs are on par with each other, same SOC/GPU, same ram as well, so they are virtually identical spec was.
The only thing I can't speak for is running Android on a non native phone. But judging by the following and the video reviews, I can only conclude it runs the OS just as well as a native device would.
I have both...and love them both. I would say that you could probably end up with a little more in your pocket with the HD2, and if you are here in the USA, you will have a bit more room for app storage with the HD2 without having to resort to using A2SD workarounds
...I have been using the same gingerbread rom on my HD2 now for about 2 months and its super solid.
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evilkorn said:
The specs are on par with each other, same SOC/GPU, same ram as well, so they are virtually identical spec was.
The only thing I can't speak for is running Android on a non native phone. But judging by the following and the video reviews, I can only conclude it runs the OS just as well as a native device would.
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Indeed. Spec-wise, it is very much the same as its Android and WP7 counterparts. There should be no compatibility issues in that respect. My mindset is that the HD2 is a better phone for me but I've come here to see if there are any real advantages that Nexus One owners have noticed. Perhaps looking forward, the amount of development for it?
agentaaron said:
I have both...and love them both. I would say that you could probably end up with a little more in your pocket with the HD2, and if you are here in the USA, you will have a bit more room for app storage with the HD2 without having to resort to using A2SD workarounds
...I have been using the same gingerbread rom on my HD2 now for about 2 months and its super solid.
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I couldn't help but notice the phones in your signature. Out of the four, which one would you recommend the most? Those are all in the list of phones I am considering for purchase...
The HD2 has a better touch digitizer, bigger screen, WP7 compatible, more internal memory.
The nexus one has a hardware defect with the touch screen ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsSUqkh8pcI) , it really restricts you from using emulators, or makes playing multi-touch games highly frustrating, and difficult.
I've owned the nexus one since launch, and I really regret not getting an HD2( my friend owns one). Trust me, go with the HD2
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The HD2 has a better touch digitizer, bigger screen, WP7 compatible, more internal memory.
The nexus one has a hardware defect with the touch screen ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsSUqkh8pcI) , it really restricts you from using emulators, or makes playing multi-touch games highly frustrating, and difficult.
I've owned the nexus one since launch, and I really regret not getting an HD2( my friend owns one). Trust me, go with the HD2
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Thanks for the advice! I believe I will indeed be going with the HD2. I really love the way the hardware looks and feels from a design perspective as well.
OBAMANIZER said:
I couldn't help but notice the phones in your signature. Out of the four, which one would you recommend the most? Those are all in the list of phones I am considering for purchase...
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Sorry for the late reply...its hard for me to choose phones, I have more than what is listed in my signature also. I tend to keep going back to my MT4G a lot...it has a good screen size and the phone is not that big...ample storage space for apps and a quick processor. The only thing I hate is the stock rom, but that is easily replaceable.
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The HD2 has a better touch digitizer, bigger screen, WP7 compatible, more internal memory.
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The HD2 uses the same crappy ass ClearPad 2000 touch sensor used in the N1. So on this point, they are equal.

HD7 vs lumia 710 vs radar

Stuck between these. Hd7 obviously bigger but the others newer.
I'm looking for cleanest display with good dev.
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Good development? Clearly HD7. Don't really know about Radar nor Lumia 710.
About the screen, Lumia 710 does have ClearBlack technology so it should work good, but I could compare my HD7 to it and I wouldn't sacrifice the screen size for just a little more dark blacks. Also my friend's 710 got some scratches from everyday use and my much older HD7 is intact (although they both use Gorilla Glass.
It's up to you which one feels better in hand
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Stuck between these. Hd7 obviously bigger but the others newer.
I'm looking for cleanest display with good dev.
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I don't own the Lumia 710, but i do own the Radar 4G and HD7.
i haven't ever actually used the Lumia 710, but i had held a unit that wouldn't power on. it is a very cheap feeling device.
if that said, if you purely want the "cleanest" display, between the Radar 4G and the HD7...
they are of the same quality, imo.
though, the PPI is better on the Radar 4G, so the image will look sharper.
stevew84 said:
Stuck between these. Hd7 obviously bigger but the others newer.
I'm looking for cleanest display with good dev.
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The radar has a much better and crisp screen than the HD7. It has more PPI and is Super LED.
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The radar has a much better and crisp screen than the HD7. It has more PPI and is Super LED.
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he went with the Radar 4G. naturally, forgot about threads he opened...

htc J Butterfly :D

http://www.slashgear.com/htc-j-butterfly-5-inch-1080p-smartphone-unveiled-in-japan-17252317/
Japan-only model? Damn you htc
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I think, its first device in HTC lineup to have the beast snap dragon quad core krait processor! Hope similar model will be launched in rest of world soon!!!!
Dat Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro :/
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I was extremely disappointed this wasn't an HTC Nexus 5 Screw capacitive keys, give me on screen buttons damnit!
i think the post says that they will launch similar 5inch based htc phones in other parts ...
Am I the only one who wants an average sized screen around 4.3" to 4.5" but still have quad core and other powerful specs?
Or does everyone else have giant hands?
timleewm said:
Am I the only one who wants an average sized screen around 4.3" to 4.5" but still have quad core and other powerful specs?
Or does everyone else have giant hands?
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I prefer 4.7-5.0 inch displays. I like big screens
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timleewm said:
Am I the only one who wants an average sized screen around 4.3" to 4.5" but still have quad core and other powerful specs?
Or does everyone else have giant hands?
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Me too. One s
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larkhillv7 said:
Japan-only model? Damn you htc
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what ive heard about the variants:
(courtesy football)
DLX#UL = unknown region/carrier
DLX#U-C14 = china
DLX#U_B1 = australia
DLX#WL-R1 = USA/verizon
DLX#WLJ-D9 = japan (most likely thats what the announced "j" phone is)
DLX#WR-C14 = another china variant
timleewm said:
Am I the only one who wants an average sized screen around 4.3" to 4.5" but still have quad core and other powerful specs?
Or does everyone else have giant hands?
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I much prefer a smaller screen. The IncS is the perfect sized phone, in my opinion. If they could bring out a device with the same footprint, but with a edge-to-edge screen I'd be first in line to buy it. This trend towards massive screens baffles me. Who wants to haul around a flat-screen TV in their pocket all day?
nitsuj17 said:
what ive heard about the variants:
(courtesy football)
DLX#UL = unknown region/carrier
DLX#U-C14 = china
DLX#U_B1 = australia
DLX#WL-R1 = USA/verizon
DLX#WLJ-D9 = japan (most likely thats what the announced "j" phone is)
DLX#WR-C14 = another china variant
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What about Singapore? I know HTC released the special edition white colour sensation xe last year in my area.
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timleewm said:
Am I the only one who wants an average sized screen around 4.3" to 4.5" but still have quad core and other powerful specs?
Or does everyone else have giant hands?
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Actually, my hands are tiny. To put it into perspective, I'm 6'1 and my girlfriend is 5'1. Our hands are about the same size sadly lol. I'm a power user though, even on my phone. I often feel cramped by the Incredible S' 4" screen. 4.3 or 4.5 isn't that much bigger IMO. But 5" 1080p phone? Yes please! With software buttons. I know I'm in a minority wanting a big powerful phone, and software buttons, but that would be my perfect phone. Essentially a Nexus phablet.

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