Any one tried this adapter?
http://www.cablejive.com/universal-dock-converter
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iPod connector is different unfortunately, although they look similar the pin layout is totally different
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iPod connector is different unfortunately, although they look similar the pin layout is totally different
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OP knows that. Visit the link. It is a converter that creates a usb port and an adio in port from ipod dock. This will let you plug your streak usb cable and an audio cable into the converter and then into the ipod dock. Seems like a good solution for anyone who has a bunch of ipod or iphone accessories sitting around.
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stole my idea! I was gonna make one myself and then see if i could get into mass producing them but been really busy lately.
I want to make a iPod female to PDMI male adapter thats small (about the size of a matchbox but skinnier) but $20 bucks for an extra cable from dell?!
That'll teachg me to read links properly...
But you'll have to have your pdmi cable going into the streak to power it AND a audio jack plugged ito the headphone port for audio.
Definitely not an elegant solution.
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Sorry if someone else already posted this somewhere... Looks like they modded the Streak PDMI connector into a mini-USB adapter.
http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/08/dell-streak-pdmi-connector-modded-for-mini-usb.html
-ag
Good idea but would be nice to see the inside and what wires soldered to what
I checked out John's website over at http://www.linuxslate.com, and while I don't have time to look at everything now, it looks like there's a lot more info there, including pinouts and pictures the board.
I'll read through everything later, and may have to order another cable from Dell to give it a try.
ag
Instead of cutting up dell cords, anyone have a clue where we could get raw pdmi connectors?
I don't really see the point - you've still got to plug in the PDMI connector so what's the advantage?
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I don't really see the point - you've still got to plug in the PDMI connector so what's the advantage?
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Well, you have a point.
If you plug in a mini USB to USB-A cable into the adapter I made, you end up with exactly what you had in the first place (With the Dell Cable): PDMI to USB.
Furthermore, There's the cost:
Their way: Dell Cable: $20
My way: Dell Cable to destroy + Something to get the mini Female USB + mini USB cable + labor = >> $20
But, there are 2 points:
1. I have shown that the Pin-out of the Dell implementation of PDMI is known. USB breakout is just a simple demonstration. Manufactures can built lots of different breakout cables and docks.
2. It is far easier to carry the tiny adapter that I made than it is to carry the Dell USB cable. When I already have standard mini USB cables at home, in each car, and a couple at work, I really don't want to have to buy half a dozen $20 Dell cables, just to have one at each location I might need it. I can connect the little adapter I made to my key chain, and always have it with me, while hardly knowing I am carrying it. My little adapter is far more durable than a cable (especially since the Dell cables seem rather stiff).
He's another what's the point question:
What's the point of having Audio on the PDMI when there is already audio on the 3.5mm jack?
If I had a Audio/USB breakout adapter, I can make both connections with one action (such as when getting in the car.), and I don't have wires sticking out of 2 sides of the device.
Perhaps if you wanted to use your Sony Walkman Cassette Player in your car instead of it's built-in 8-Track deck, such arrangements were acceptable, but I was under the impression we had made some progress since then.
(For the record, I'm not old enough to have actually done that.)
Just my opinion, but I'd rather carry around an adapter that I could plug any one of my numerous USB chargers into (wall, car, etc...), than buy new chargers from Dell (especially at the prices they're charging for them).
-ag
I also would much rather have one adapter as shown except perhaps a micro-usb on the other side in addition... If we are going to have an adapter, make it multifunctional.
If we want to get really crazy, put a micro switch between pins 2&3 on the USB (or whatever the pinout is for data in/out so we can use any USB power supply, but open it for syncing if necessary
Ok, point taken!
So put me on your advanced order list for a micro adaptor ... I left my cable at home today and was out of power by 1 pm.
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Another advantage if you could actually buy just the raw pdmi connector form some kind of electronic component whole saler like digikey or newark or something, you'd probably be talking about something that costs 2 bucks to make instead of paying 20 for a cord.
I bought the slacker G2 dock and tested i with the streak. Initially, nothing would work, no charging, no audio output. So i decided to take it apart and check the pin out.
So opened it up, took the board out and checked the usb pins, it was correctly mapped to the right pdmi pins, was dumbfounded why it did not work.
Then I just plugged the board in to the streak and lo and behold it started charging. When it was in the dock, I think the streak was not getting seated properly on the pdmi connector, because of the thickness of the plastic top cover. The headphones and line out ports do not seem to work though, I will have to do some more trouble shooting.
Keep us up to date on this.
I am VERY interested in this for desktop charging.
this would be HUGE, since if you don't need the HDMI out, why pay for $70 at Dell?!!
If there was some way to create an adapter that slid in flush with the phone, that would be perfect. Nothing extra to carry, just snap it in and you can use any mini/micro USB cable.
Get on that and let me know how it's coming along.
So did I see somewhere that the Samsung Galaxy Tab will be PDMI? If so Here is an accessory from it to USB http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/30/samsung-galaxy-tab-accessories-may-include-bluetooth-stylus-and/
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So did I see somewhere that the Samsung Galaxy Tab will be PDMI? If so Here is an accessory from it to USB http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/30/samsung-galaxy-tab-accessories-may-include-bluetooth-stylus-and/
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now that will be very handy... keep one of those handy and most cable issues will go away
I saw that and the accessory port looked like a PDMI - I hadn't read anything, tho.
Perhaps we will see more as more devices have the plug.
perhaps Dell is on the leading edge more than we thought!!!
PDMI has been around for a couple of years but no one has used it until now, the Samsung connector certainly looks like a PDMI but it hasn't even been released yet so there's no way to tell for sure.
I saw that accessory for the Tab on engadget.
They copied me !!
Raw PDMI connector Part No.
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Another advantage if you could actually buy just the raw pdmi connector form some kind of electronic component whole saler like digikey or newark or something, you'd probably be talking about something that costs 2 bucks to make instead of paying 20 for a cord.
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I asked the dude who made his own PDMI to USB adapter if he has seen some markings inside the connector he used, no reply.
Could it be the Molex (or whoever is the manufaturer) part no is mentioned in the official PDMI specs?
I checked DigiKey and Newark for "PDMI" and got zilch.
I can't believe the whole PDMI / HDMI / USB cables & docking options haven't taken off yet !?!?!?!?!?!?!
What is going on? I guess companies don't think the PDMI standard is worth investing in?
Still NO usb to pdmi cable! other then Dell's $29.99CAD
Still NO pdmi to hdmi cable!
forget Display Port and all the rest but where are all the PDMI options?
I would love to see an IPod-like boombox dock with the PDMI connection, or maybe just an alternative to the expensive usb cable from Dell.
I agree with you, I would love to see multiple dock options for the Streak. Maybe with the Streak 7 it will take off. Only time will tell.
+2.. I hope that with the apparent release of Streak 7. Other PDMI accessories will come out too..
I finally received my spare Tab usb cable and a few microUSB SMD sockets and have successfully hacked them together to make a very portable adapter so that all of my existing microUSB cables work on the Tab as well. No more having to carry a different cable with me!
Nice work. How did you mount the female micro so neatly?
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A video of it functioning would be awesome. I am interested in making this as well. I actually want to create a full USB adapter. I know there is a schematic of the cable and what each one does. Its just a matter of wiring it up right. Perhaps you can make a how-to? what if you plug a USB thumb drive using a USB to micro USB adapter. Would that work?
From the Tab.
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I don't know if it would do anything with a thumb drive or anything else that requires a host port. For a microUSB socket, there are 5 pins, of which 1 is unused when you wire it to a regular usb dock connector like this one. I haven't looked at the pinout posted, but it's possible that 5th connection is to toggle/enable host mode on the Tab. If I get a chance I'll plug in an external drive and see what happens.
As to how I shoehorned the micro socket into the dock port connector, it just required an X-acto knife and some super glue. Soldering on those tiny smd pins is a pain, so if I make another, I'll etch a small pcb and mount it that way.
Great work! Do you have any pictures of the inside of the adapter?
Unfortunately no. I will take pics of the inside of my next project, which is to make a dock connector adapter that'll break out into a microUSB port alongside of a miniHDMI (kind of how Samsung should've done it to begin with). I'll definitely snap some pics then, and post up the Eagle files if anyone's interested.
EDIT: Looking at the pinout thread, it looks like the HDMI dock has all sorts of stuff in there that I had assumed were inside the Tab. I'll probably make another microUSB adapter so I can prototype the pcbs.
EDIT2: For USB On-The-Go, it looks like the unused pin 4 (ID) just needs to be grounded to pin 5. I'll test that too.
Wow, this looks great. Have you thought about making a few spares and offering them up for sale? I would definitely be interested. Let me know
I'm currently trying to track down a supplier of the 30-pin connectors. Seems a very daunting task at this point, since I can't speak Chinese, and the majority of the component suppliers do. It wouldn't be cost-effective to purchase full usb cables with the connectors just to harvest the connector off of them. Also, to even test the OTG functionality would require a dock connector with all the pins (or at least pin 13 + the usb ones); most of the usb charging/sync cables only have 7 of the 30 pins. The only connector I know of that has pin 13 is from the HDMI dock, and that's an expensive way to test.
So once these connectors are more readily available, I'll look into making a batch.
I have been tinkering with the Slacker G2 dock and have modified it to output audio through one of the ports. This involves soldering on very small traces and is not something that is easy to do.
Just as a general warning, I am not responsible for any damage that could result from this guide.
On the bottom of the circuit board solder a jumper wire between the +5v pin on the USB connector and the point shown in my picture.
On the top remove the components from the board, i removed them all, this is to keep the new audio connection from feeding back into the dock port on the streak.
On the top run a jumper from pin 10 to any Ground point on the board, i picked one a that was easy to get to.
Then run a jumper from pin 8 to the now empty solder point next to the connector marked C4
Then run a jumper from the solder point just under the R1 label to the point next to the connector marked C5
Congratulations your G2 Dock now has audio out, and as an added bonus it will charge your Streak twice as fast. Also make sure that your power source is able to supply a minimum of 1A or 1000mA of power.
I think this mod needed it's own thread, well done m8.
Question, is the 5v jumper cable underneath all you need to fit to increase charging capacity? I'm not too bothered about audio.
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I think this mod needed it's own thread, well dome m8.
Question, is the 5v jumper cable underneath all you need to fit to increase charging capacity? I'm not too bothered about audio.
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Yes, if thats all you need.
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Cheers, thanks
Did the +5v pin on the USB connector to get dock mode but now no audio from phone even if I disable speaker out in dock settings. Alarm is useless now, is that expected?
Choose the option to enable speaker output, because its the phone speaker not the dock speaker.
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Thanks for the hint. I enabled speaker output and it works but I had to undock and redock for the new setting to kick-in.
I got two of these docks as they are the only thing I could find (because dell don't want to sell accessories in Australia) so I'll give your mod a go to get the audio working.
Thanks heaps
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I got two of these docks as they are the only thing I could find (because dell don't want to sell accessories in Australia) so I'll give your mod a go to get the audio working.
Thanks heaps
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Sounds good, let me know if you have any questions.
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Awesome thanks for this!
Now i can buy this dock and do this mod and make a proper car mount with audio out!
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Awesome thanks for this!
Now i can buy this dock and do this mod and make a proper car mount with audio out!
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Try here - I have bought from this seller and would recommend her.
Agreed, I bought 2 (in case I messed one up) and it works great.
Further modification
After applying the 5v USB modification my Streak charges at twice the speed. The only problem was that it would not switch to dock mode without pressing down firmly.
Corrected the issue by removing more plastic around the PDMI connector and re-adjusted the angle so more is exposed. Now the Dell Streak docks without much effort.
Hey guys is it possible to dock the dell streak when its in a TPU style case? If not, does it look easy to mod to accept a dell streak + case? Also, does the audio out provide stereo sound? Thanks
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Hey guys is it possible to dock the dell streak when its in a TPU style case? If not, does it look easy to mod to accept a dell streak + case? Also, does the audio out provide stereo sound? Thanks
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The G2 dock can be modified by removing the plastic arround the port to accept most cases, in order to get any audio out of the dock you must do the mod to the pinouts to get stereo out.
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I'm confused. The add for the dock claims its got audio-out and it comes with 2 different audio cables. Why does it need a modification for audio out?
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Get the most out of your Personal Radio Player at home with the Slacker G2 Dock.
Connects to your home stereo or computer speakers
Charges your player while listening or refreshing stations over Wi-Fi
Connects to your PC to refresh music and transfer songs
Includes audio cables for your home stereo:
1/8 inch mini jack to RCA
1/8 inch mini jack to mini jack
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I'm confused. The add for the dock claims its got audio-out and it comes with 2 different audio cables. Why does it need a modification for audio out?
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The G2 uses different pins to control this output than the standard. This modification bypasses all that and makes it correct for the streak.
HDMI
Hey guys does this Slacker Dock also give us the ability to use HDMI from the Streak to say a Plasma TV...
I can see on the pick that it has an output but there is no mention of it by any if you in thread.
pls let me know.. cheers
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Hey guys does this Slacker Dock also give us the ability to use HDMI from the Streak to say a Plasma TV...
I can see on the pick that it has an output but there is no mention of it by any if you in thread.
pls let me know.. cheers
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Nope, to get HDMI out you need to get the $69.99 dock from Dell.
Thanks for that.
Were is the best place to buy that that will deliver to Asia.
Any Suggestions.....
Well, I've been thinking about this for a while, and I was hoping to get some feedback.
I've just purchased a Dell Streak (7) home dock. I was wondering, if the Dell Streak (5) can fit on this dock in such a way, that it would remain stable if placed in a car.
I've seen the Car dock, and I'm not that impressed. And as far as I can tell, I'd need to plug in a jack in the headphone port, to get sound thru the car.
With the Home dock, it'd look neat, I could get a HDMI audio adapter, and a USB hub that's powered from 12v (mp3car.com).
So, mainly, I'm asking how firmly does a Dell streak sit in the Home dock?
THanks in advance.
-B
also...will the USB port power the dock? are there any holes in my plan?
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I would say the biggest hole in your plan is the risk of damaging the pdmi socket on your streak, thus rendering it totally useless - it just doesn't have enough support.
My Streak sits tightly in its' 5 dock, but not tightly enough that I'd trust it on a bumpy car ride.
well...that sucks. thanks for the input. ill figure something out I'm sure
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