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Sorry if someone else already posted this somewhere... Looks like they modded the Streak PDMI connector into a mini-USB adapter.
http://www.streaksmart.com/2010/08/dell-streak-pdmi-connector-modded-for-mini-usb.html
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Good idea but would be nice to see the inside and what wires soldered to what
I checked out John's website over at http://www.linuxslate.com, and while I don't have time to look at everything now, it looks like there's a lot more info there, including pinouts and pictures the board.
I'll read through everything later, and may have to order another cable from Dell to give it a try.
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Instead of cutting up dell cords, anyone have a clue where we could get raw pdmi connectors?
I don't really see the point - you've still got to plug in the PDMI connector so what's the advantage?
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I don't really see the point - you've still got to plug in the PDMI connector so what's the advantage?
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Well, you have a point.
If you plug in a mini USB to USB-A cable into the adapter I made, you end up with exactly what you had in the first place (With the Dell Cable): PDMI to USB.
Furthermore, There's the cost:
Their way: Dell Cable: $20
My way: Dell Cable to destroy + Something to get the mini Female USB + mini USB cable + labor = >> $20
But, there are 2 points:
1. I have shown that the Pin-out of the Dell implementation of PDMI is known. USB breakout is just a simple demonstration. Manufactures can built lots of different breakout cables and docks.
2. It is far easier to carry the tiny adapter that I made than it is to carry the Dell USB cable. When I already have standard mini USB cables at home, in each car, and a couple at work, I really don't want to have to buy half a dozen $20 Dell cables, just to have one at each location I might need it. I can connect the little adapter I made to my key chain, and always have it with me, while hardly knowing I am carrying it. My little adapter is far more durable than a cable (especially since the Dell cables seem rather stiff).
He's another what's the point question:
What's the point of having Audio on the PDMI when there is already audio on the 3.5mm jack?
If I had a Audio/USB breakout adapter, I can make both connections with one action (such as when getting in the car.), and I don't have wires sticking out of 2 sides of the device.
Perhaps if you wanted to use your Sony Walkman Cassette Player in your car instead of it's built-in 8-Track deck, such arrangements were acceptable, but I was under the impression we had made some progress since then.
(For the record, I'm not old enough to have actually done that.)
Just my opinion, but I'd rather carry around an adapter that I could plug any one of my numerous USB chargers into (wall, car, etc...), than buy new chargers from Dell (especially at the prices they're charging for them).
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I also would much rather have one adapter as shown except perhaps a micro-usb on the other side in addition... If we are going to have an adapter, make it multifunctional.
If we want to get really crazy, put a micro switch between pins 2&3 on the USB (or whatever the pinout is for data in/out so we can use any USB power supply, but open it for syncing if necessary
Ok, point taken!
So put me on your advanced order list for a micro adaptor ... I left my cable at home today and was out of power by 1 pm.
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Another advantage if you could actually buy just the raw pdmi connector form some kind of electronic component whole saler like digikey or newark or something, you'd probably be talking about something that costs 2 bucks to make instead of paying 20 for a cord.
I bought the slacker G2 dock and tested i with the streak. Initially, nothing would work, no charging, no audio output. So i decided to take it apart and check the pin out.
So opened it up, took the board out and checked the usb pins, it was correctly mapped to the right pdmi pins, was dumbfounded why it did not work.
Then I just plugged the board in to the streak and lo and behold it started charging. When it was in the dock, I think the streak was not getting seated properly on the pdmi connector, because of the thickness of the plastic top cover. The headphones and line out ports do not seem to work though, I will have to do some more trouble shooting.
Keep us up to date on this.
I am VERY interested in this for desktop charging.
this would be HUGE, since if you don't need the HDMI out, why pay for $70 at Dell?!!
If there was some way to create an adapter that slid in flush with the phone, that would be perfect. Nothing extra to carry, just snap it in and you can use any mini/micro USB cable.
Get on that and let me know how it's coming along.
So did I see somewhere that the Samsung Galaxy Tab will be PDMI? If so Here is an accessory from it to USB http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/30/samsung-galaxy-tab-accessories-may-include-bluetooth-stylus-and/
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So did I see somewhere that the Samsung Galaxy Tab will be PDMI? If so Here is an accessory from it to USB http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/30/samsung-galaxy-tab-accessories-may-include-bluetooth-stylus-and/
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now that will be very handy... keep one of those handy and most cable issues will go away
I saw that and the accessory port looked like a PDMI - I hadn't read anything, tho.
Perhaps we will see more as more devices have the plug.
perhaps Dell is on the leading edge more than we thought!!!
PDMI has been around for a couple of years but no one has used it until now, the Samsung connector certainly looks like a PDMI but it hasn't even been released yet so there's no way to tell for sure.
I saw that accessory for the Tab on engadget.
They copied me !!
Raw PDMI connector Part No.
DeathOfAllThings said:
Another advantage if you could actually buy just the raw pdmi connector form some kind of electronic component whole saler like digikey or newark or something, you'd probably be talking about something that costs 2 bucks to make instead of paying 20 for a cord.
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I asked the dude who made his own PDMI to USB adapter if he has seen some markings inside the connector he used, no reply.
Could it be the Molex (or whoever is the manufaturer) part no is mentioned in the official PDMI specs?
I checked DigiKey and Newark for "PDMI" and got zilch.
Any one tried this adapter?
http://www.cablejive.com/universal-dock-converter
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iPod connector is different unfortunately, although they look similar the pin layout is totally different
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iPod connector is different unfortunately, although they look similar the pin layout is totally different
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OP knows that. Visit the link. It is a converter that creates a usb port and an adio in port from ipod dock. This will let you plug your streak usb cable and an audio cable into the converter and then into the ipod dock. Seems like a good solution for anyone who has a bunch of ipod or iphone accessories sitting around.
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stole my idea! I was gonna make one myself and then see if i could get into mass producing them but been really busy lately.
I want to make a iPod female to PDMI male adapter thats small (about the size of a matchbox but skinnier) but $20 bucks for an extra cable from dell?!
That'll teachg me to read links properly...
But you'll have to have your pdmi cable going into the streak to power it AND a audio jack plugged ito the headphone port for audio.
Definitely not an elegant solution.
Parrot Minikit Smart Dock
http://androidspin.com/2011/02/20/review-parrot-minikit-smart-docks-your-phone-and-charges-it-too/
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Parrot Minikit Smart Dock
http://androidspin.com/2011/02/20/review-parrot-minikit-smart-docks-your-phone-and-charges-it-too/
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does it work with the streak? I dont think it has a PDMI adaptor.
edit: nevermind, you have to use your stock cable to make it work ;-)
Doesthis work? I am looking for a decent in car set up for my streak for making calls etc
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You only have to look at the first picture to see that it won't work with the streak. The bracket arms would cover the pdmi socket and power / volume buttons.
I have been tinkering with the Slacker G2 dock and have modified it to output audio through one of the ports. This involves soldering on very small traces and is not something that is easy to do.
Just as a general warning, I am not responsible for any damage that could result from this guide.
On the bottom of the circuit board solder a jumper wire between the +5v pin on the USB connector and the point shown in my picture.
On the top remove the components from the board, i removed them all, this is to keep the new audio connection from feeding back into the dock port on the streak.
On the top run a jumper from pin 10 to any Ground point on the board, i picked one a that was easy to get to.
Then run a jumper from pin 8 to the now empty solder point next to the connector marked C4
Then run a jumper from the solder point just under the R1 label to the point next to the connector marked C5
Congratulations your G2 Dock now has audio out, and as an added bonus it will charge your Streak twice as fast. Also make sure that your power source is able to supply a minimum of 1A or 1000mA of power.
I think this mod needed it's own thread, well done m8.
Question, is the 5v jumper cable underneath all you need to fit to increase charging capacity? I'm not too bothered about audio.
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I think this mod needed it's own thread, well dome m8.
Question, is the 5v jumper cable underneath all you need to fit to increase charging capacity? I'm not too bothered about audio.
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Yes, if thats all you need.
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Cheers, thanks
Did the +5v pin on the USB connector to get dock mode but now no audio from phone even if I disable speaker out in dock settings. Alarm is useless now, is that expected?
Choose the option to enable speaker output, because its the phone speaker not the dock speaker.
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Thanks for the hint. I enabled speaker output and it works but I had to undock and redock for the new setting to kick-in.
I got two of these docks as they are the only thing I could find (because dell don't want to sell accessories in Australia) so I'll give your mod a go to get the audio working.
Thanks heaps
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I got two of these docks as they are the only thing I could find (because dell don't want to sell accessories in Australia) so I'll give your mod a go to get the audio working.
Thanks heaps
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Sounds good, let me know if you have any questions.
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Awesome thanks for this!
Now i can buy this dock and do this mod and make a proper car mount with audio out!
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Awesome thanks for this!
Now i can buy this dock and do this mod and make a proper car mount with audio out!
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Try here - I have bought from this seller and would recommend her.
Agreed, I bought 2 (in case I messed one up) and it works great.
Further modification
After applying the 5v USB modification my Streak charges at twice the speed. The only problem was that it would not switch to dock mode without pressing down firmly.
Corrected the issue by removing more plastic around the PDMI connector and re-adjusted the angle so more is exposed. Now the Dell Streak docks without much effort.
Hey guys is it possible to dock the dell streak when its in a TPU style case? If not, does it look easy to mod to accept a dell streak + case? Also, does the audio out provide stereo sound? Thanks
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Hey guys is it possible to dock the dell streak when its in a TPU style case? If not, does it look easy to mod to accept a dell streak + case? Also, does the audio out provide stereo sound? Thanks
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The G2 dock can be modified by removing the plastic arround the port to accept most cases, in order to get any audio out of the dock you must do the mod to the pinouts to get stereo out.
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I'm confused. The add for the dock claims its got audio-out and it comes with 2 different audio cables. Why does it need a modification for audio out?
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Get the most out of your Personal Radio Player at home with the Slacker G2 Dock.
Connects to your home stereo or computer speakers
Charges your player while listening or refreshing stations over Wi-Fi
Connects to your PC to refresh music and transfer songs
Includes audio cables for your home stereo:
1/8 inch mini jack to RCA
1/8 inch mini jack to mini jack
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I'm confused. The add for the dock claims its got audio-out and it comes with 2 different audio cables. Why does it need a modification for audio out?
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The G2 uses different pins to control this output than the standard. This modification bypasses all that and makes it correct for the streak.
HDMI
Hey guys does this Slacker Dock also give us the ability to use HDMI from the Streak to say a Plasma TV...
I can see on the pick that it has an output but there is no mention of it by any if you in thread.
pls let me know.. cheers
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Hey guys does this Slacker Dock also give us the ability to use HDMI from the Streak to say a Plasma TV...
I can see on the pick that it has an output but there is no mention of it by any if you in thread.
pls let me know.. cheers
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Nope, to get HDMI out you need to get the $69.99 dock from Dell.
Thanks for that.
Were is the best place to buy that that will deliver to Asia.
Any Suggestions.....
Sony's car dock is a joke - it's a generic dock for all their phones, may as well just buy some equally crappy thing off ebay for a pittance.
I'm looking for a proper dock with charging and audio-out built in. Having to plug and unplug USB and headphone jacks every time you dock and undock your phone is ridiculous. In fact, I don't know if I can commit to buying the Xperia Z without one.
Yes I am with you need a car dock with charger.
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Wonder if you could take the desktop cradle, glue it onto your dash, then re solder some wires to get the car plug 12v... Seriously, it might be a way if Sony doesn't release one
I've considered modding the desk dock, would also require adding some sort of clip to hold it through bumps/whatever. Far from ideal though, and a fair bit of effort I'd prefer not to go to... :-/
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Sony's car dock is a joke - it's a generic dock for all their phones, may as well just buy some equally crappy thing off ebay for a pittance.
I'm looking for a proper dock with charging and audio-out built in. Having to plug and unplug USB and headphone jacks every time you dock and undock your phone is ridiculous. In fact, I don't know if I can commit to buying the Xperia Z without one.
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Not cheap but very good car docks, only Xperia Z not yet available:
http://www.brodit.com
Maikel205 said:
Not cheap but very good car docks, only Xperia Z not yet available:
http://www.brodit.com
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Yeah, they're better than nothing I guess, but they always seem to use power cords that are moulded into the unit, and none of their stuff supports audio out.
Take a look at Samsung's car docks for their flagship phones as an example of how to do it right - microUSB input for charging (means you can take your power from whatever source you like, useful for eliminating ground loops), and a 3.5mm phono socket in case you want to connect to an AUX port on your head unit (because BT sucks).
EDIT: Oh, and particularly for the Xperia Z, a car mount that uses the dock connector - rather than USB - is extremely useful, because otherwise you've got to fiddle around opening the USB socket cover to connect a charger.
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Sony's car dock is a joke - it's a generic dock for all their phones, may as well just buy some equally crappy thing off ebay for a pittance.
I'm looking for a proper dock with charging and audio-out built in. Having to plug and unplug USB and headphone jacks every time you dock and undock your phone is ridiculous. In fact, I don't know if I can commit to buying the Xperia Z without one.
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good
Guys, car mounts are a real pita to find. Just sayin
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Take a look at Samsung's car docks for their flagship phones as an example of how to do it right - microUSB input for charging (means you can take your power from whatever source you like, useful for eliminating ground loops), and a 3.5mm phono socket in case you want to connect to an AUX port on your head unit (because BT sucks)..
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They seem to be stopping their good work though, all they seem to have for the s3/note 2 is a universal passive dock. The way they did it for the galaxy s 2 (i9100 version at least) was how all manufacturers should, best car dock I've owned by far.
I have a Motorola Atrix and the official car dock. It work like a charm and you can even remove a bracket to fit a cased phone in it. Now my Atrix is dead so yeah ...
Wondering why manufacturers don't all just release official docks.
any news here? Still no official dock, afaik, so has anyone heard of a third party dock for the z?
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The idea of modding a normal dock could be a good idea if a oem one doesn't surface.
From the pictures I've seen the desk dock takes a Micro USB input so wouldn't be that difficult to mod.
Brodit bracket to fix it to the car interior, NFC tag on the dock to toggle BT, screen brightness, volume up etc. Not sure quite how you'd get the phone to stay in the dock though, particularly portrait.
Hi-tech elastic band?
I suppose Brodit will release a holder for the Xperia Z similar to the one for the Xperia V. It will use the dock power connectors on the side.
I just wished they allow any micro-USB cable to the holder, not having their own soldered cable.
"Hi
I can gladly inform you that we are going to make holders for this Sony (XPERIA Z).
We are waiting for the unit to arrive, then we probably need a couple of*weeks before launching.
Best Regard
Lars
Brodit AB"
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orenxda said:
"Hi
I can gladly inform you that we are going to make holders for this Sony (XPERIA Z).
We are waiting for the unit to arrive, then we probably need a couple of*weeks before launching.
Best Regard
Lars
Brodit AB"
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Sounds great. Would it be only for landscape.. or portrait as well?
MasK said:
Sounds great. Would it be only for landscape.. or portrait as well?
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They swivel, you can put them in landscape, although they're most comfortable in landscape usually.
As others have said though, it's a shame they use soldered/molded cables, rather than allowing microusb.