I've read in some threads that samsung is removing their JPM/JP6 firmware from KIES update... Is this true?
I live in Canada, so I technically dont have the update yet anyways, but have any of the europeans on this site noticed this?
Also! Supposing that samsung isnt removing their froyo firmware, is there any harm in me doing the regedit hack to get the froyo update NOW instead of waiting for it to be "officially" released in canada?
better wait mate!
i tried froyo ... phone was slow, bunch of google apps were not working and after the first reboot the phone stopped working
jean2323 said:
better wait mate!
i tried froyo ... phone was slow, bunch of google apps were not working and after the first reboot the phone stopped working
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I had to do a factory reset after updating to Froyo to make the phone run at normal speed. Samsung screwed up the update, especially with the Market also vanishing.
(After the reset, it runs just fine though - almost no complaints!)
Looks that way, chap. I just tried the erg hack and still no f/w available to download...
this is good news then! seems like they want to address the issues
[Q] downgrade from froyo to eclair
Hi all new member. I have an unlocked galaxy s on o2 from the carphone warehouse in uk. I used the reg hack to upgrade to froyo and all is well exept my product code has now changed from xeu to xee. I have decided that i want to return to my original 2.1 firmware and wait for the official uk froyo release. Would i be able to use the original hack (with a few changes)that we used to get froyo to trick kies into giving me my old firmware back???
My old firmware was xxjm1 for all 3 files
If the answer to the above is yes then i am just wondering what to change for the hdswerver? i know that i will use xxjf3 but there is a part that says "swc" what would i change this to?? Hope somebody can help
Woo hoo! Back to JM1 I go then! I'll give them another chance to get it right otherwise it's an iPhone 4 for me for Christmas!
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JohnI9000 said:
Hi all new member. I have an unlocked galaxy s on o2 from the carphone warehouse in uk. I used the reg hack to upgrade to froyo and all is well exept my product code has now changed from xeu to xee. I have decided that i want to return to my original 2.1 firmware and wait for the official uk froyo release. Would i be able to use the original hack (with a few changes)that we used to get froyo to trick kies into giving me my old firmware back???
My old firmware was xxjm1 for all 3 files
If the answer to the above is yes then i am just wondering what to change for the hdswerver? i know that i will use xxjf3 but there is a part that says "swc" what would i change this to?? Hope somebody can help
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Root your phone
and download a root file explorer
go to /EFS and delete the files nv_data.bin and nv_data.bin.md5 simultaneously
that should fix it
stringbeans said:
I've read in some threads that samsung is removing their JPM/JP6 firmware from KIES update... Is this true?
I live in Canada, so I technically dont have the update yet anyways, but have any of the europeans on this site noticed this?
Also! Supposing that samsung isnt removing their froyo firmware, is there any harm in me doing the regedit hack to get the froyo update NOW instead of waiting for it to be "officially" released in canada?
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They removed it this morning, It's not possible to update using kies to 2.2 at the moment. Only way is to use odin to flash it.
I also have it from bell canada and I decided to wait after hearing people loosing 850 band. I dont want to take a risk. I ve been waiting for 2 months and can wait couple more weeks.
hiraj_panosian said:
Root your phone
and download a root file explorer
go to /EFS and delete the files nv_data.bin and nv_data.bin.md5 simultaneously
that should fix it
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Hi, I'm not so clever with linux and android and I've the same problem: I want to roll back to 2.1 JM2 italian version because not satisfied with froyo
What should I do after deleting the two files?
Thanks
I find it hard to belive that froyo runs slower than 2.1. If you do a facyory reset after upgrade it.s quite fast and responsive. much faster than 2.1. Vodoo is also gonna set up a new version of their lag fix to run on 2.2. just wait. I updated using kies and regedit.
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I'm happy to hear that your experience is fine. Mine looks very different.. the SGS with froyo is slower than eclair also with OCLF. Free memory is less than 160MB instead the 200MB or more with eclair. Some apps are always running even when I kill manually or automatically..
And more I can't see important features that wasn't on eclair..
But that's my opinion..
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I find it hard to belive that froyo runs slower than 2.1. If you do a facyory reset after upgrade it.s quite fast and responsive. much faster than 2.1. Vodoo is also gonna set up a new version of their lag fix to run on 2.2. just wait. I updated using kies and regedit.
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Really? Wiped too right after flashing. And I can confirm that Froyo is laggier than Eclair (at least in some aspects). Here are some examples:
- laggy keyboard input (eg: on market, when writing a long post on the browser, etc)
- laggy app drawer. if I slide fast between apps pages it start lags. I have 6 pages of apps. Also pinch to zoom out in app drawer it's extremely laggy.
- laggy browser, consumes a lot of RAM and CPU. Try for eg pocketnow.com. Go and watch RAM/CPU usage in Task Manager. (tested with plugins off and on demand)
- even less free RAM available
And that's with voodoo lag fix applied.
And that's just not me. It's global. I bet you have those issues too, maybe you haven't used the phone too much.
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Really? Wiped too right after flashing. And I can confirm that Froyo is laggier than Eclair (at least in some aspects). Here are some examples:
- laggy keyboard input (eg: on market, when writing a long post on the browser, etc)
- laggy app drawer. if I slide fast between apps pages it start lags. I have 6 pages of apps. Also pinch to zoom out in app drawer it's extremely laggy.
- laggy browser, consumes a lot of RAM and CPU. Try for eg pocketnow.com. Go and watch RAM/CPU usage in Task Manager. (tested with plugins off and on demand)
- even less free RAM available
And that's with voodoo lag fix applied.
And that's just not me. It's global. I bet you have those issues too, maybe you haven't used the phone too much.
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Why I'm not surprised to hear it also from other people?!?
The question you're asking ought to be directed to Scandinavian as they're the only ones that can tell for sure. So here's mt crack at it.
Are there any Scandinavians out here who have a Galaxy s on the original elair 2.1 and can confirm that if they check for an update none is showing where KIES used to indicate a Froyo update was available?
If the answer is yes then the update got pulled, if no it means Samsung is proceeding as planned. There is also a small possibility they want to fix stuff before releasing it outside Scandinavia. I really don't think that's very likely in this case, it's inconsistent with leaking the regional firmware for Arabic and African countries.
I guess only time will tell. I'm going to wait for a one of the cyanogenmod as I have lost all faith in Samsung ever getting this firmware right. Actually jm2 with voodoo is not so bad.
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Really? Wiped too right after flashing. And I can confirm that Froyo is laggier than Eclair (at least in some aspects). Here are some examples:
- laggy keyboard input (eg: on market, when writing a long post on the browser, etc)
- laggy app drawer. if I slide fast between apps pages it start lags. I have 6 pages of apps. Also pinch to zoom out in app drawer it's extremely laggy.
- laggy browser, consumes a lot of RAM and CPU. Try for eg pocketnow.com. Go and watch RAM/CPU usage in Task Manager. (tested with plugins off and on demand)
- even less free RAM available
And that's with voodoo lag fix applied.
And that's just not me. It's global. I bet you have those issues too, maybe you haven't used the phone too much.
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I will explore more, it's wierd, the keyboard input seems to be one of the most succesfull improvements in the 2.2 on my galaxy s.
chk230 said:
I find it hard to belive that froyo runs slower than 2.1. If you do a facyory reset after upgrade it.s quite fast and responsive. much faster than 2.1. Vodoo is also gonna set up a new version of their lag fix to run on 2.2. just wait. I updated using kies and regedit.
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after the factory reset my phone cannot complete the booting procedure ... bricked
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after the factory reset my phone cannot complete the booting procedure ... bricked
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not bricked.
if it was bricked the phone would be completly non responsive upto and including no charging light. as your phone turns on it can be fixed. you may need to re flash it though.
Hi im after the vodafone australia codes for the register so I can flash back to the branded firmware
Can anyone help me please
Or is there another way
Ty
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I understand there are many lag fixes, but i think my issue may be past that
My SGS is very very sluggish lately and was before
I'm constantly finding myself at 100% cpu usage (finding out from android system info app) and its making the phone so sluggish, not only is it embarrasing to hold in my hand... but makes me think about suicide (even my htc vogue wasn't this bad)
Reason i even go close to saying the htc vogue comment is, if my vogue lagged... i would press the reset button.. and quick boot back up and all would be well.. but the SGS once after i remove battery and put it back in, it still has very sluggish boot time and isn't as smooth as before
I AM on the latest firmware btw... this is the info i grabbed from Android System Info
The process is android.process.acore (using 100%) which comes from package org.adw.launcher
The EXACT same thing happened with Launcher Pro which is why i tried adw launcher... i thought it might've been launcher pro to begin with, which is why i did the switch.. but now im having same problem
First launcher pro, now adw
I'm guessing the problem is something else..
-- is this lag the one everyone seems to be having? Hence the "lagfixes?"
I applied Ryans lag fix via apk and no difference at all
Is there a way i can dump log / info / apps so maybe we can trace this down?
I LOVE the phone and constantly show off its abilities, but lately its been doing this and making me look like a jackass haha
Appreciate the help!
What's is your quadrant result? But the 100% cpu is abnormal, you need to solve that first.
Did you get that when if you use the touchwiz launcher?
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touchwiz is smaller.. but I'm currently waiting for it to get to that point of lag again (probably in another hour or two) and i'll manually kill adw and launch touchwiz to see how it works
I just ran quadrant with 1808 and i got error while it was showing my result saying internal error during benchmark execution with a close button
I did it again.. got 2198 but same error
... Before i used to get 2200 and before lagfix it was 880
I'll wait for the 100% lag (i just rebooted) and try again and update
Which firmware are you running?
Sounds like you need to do a reflash and format. Try giving jm1 rev.3 a shot as that is by far the best fw to date.
The latest stable firmware on kies, or from here?
From Kies... JH2
I'm on Bell btw, got the GT-I9000M
Toss3: I guess if there aren't any ideas, i'll do a full backup with titanium... and try reflash/format and see how that works... if not its either phone hardware wise or some app that i have
Sounds like a homescreen widget that is doing a ton of processing and pushing your CPU up to 100%. It believe would show up under the launcher, cause widgets run on the homescreen.
that is also one of my theories.. just dont know the easiest way to figure out what it is..
only way i can think is to delete all and slowly add one by one
Torob said:
that is also one of my theories.. just dont know the easiest way to figure out what it is..
only way i can think is to delete all and slowly add one by one
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Could just be a bad phone? How long have you had it for? Can you get it replaced?
i got it i think day or two after launch
Torob said:
that is also one of my theories.. just dont know the easiest way to figure out what it is..
only way i can think is to delete all and slowly add one by one
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You don't need to delete all, you can't have too many widgets that could potentially be burning that much CPU, although if you do that'd be my place to start .
Think about it logically... Widgets that need to poll data (facebook/twitter/RSS) and widgets that use a lot of RAM (anything pretty/animated). My inclination is that you have something set to poll very frequently (1min) that is also trying to pull a lot of data at a time so that its not finishing one full pull before it starts the next one.
If that still doesn't do the trick do a backup and reflash (even to the same FW version is fine) and set it up with the absolute bare minimum of widget and homescreens. See if the problem remains with NOTHING, which it shouldn't, then refill over the course of a few days.
Alternatively, you could just try autokiller on agressive. Your problem is obviously coming from an errant process that you aren't knowingly using. Don't see why autokiller won't keep it stomped down.
i dont have any widget with a low update frequency
i have facebook.. vlingo button.. beautiful home and weather... pure calendar.. stock youtube. . google search. batterylife and a brightness toggle
the rest are just contact or app shortcuts
ive tried killing widget processes as well but that hasnt done much help
today ill experiment a bit more though
The phone is really testing my patience though, constantly having full UI lock ups
can some one find a fix for jpo browser ? still the browser is much lags much when flash is on so some one do have a fix for it ? other roms like jp6 has a fix but anyone has the fix for this
The only "fix" that i did was installing Opera mini as the default browser.At least is faster and its free.Just saw the omnia 7 windows mobile phone surfing the net with amazing speed.Just dont understand why on android its so awfull
Because there is no flash right now on winphone7.
Its because wp7 has a crippled browser that does not support everything the stock webkit browser can do. Read all the reviews on wp7 and you'll see them all dislike it. Also can't you use the libwebkit.so file from galaxy tablet fix.
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ickyboo said:
Its because wp7 has a crippled browser that does not support everything the stock webkit browser can do. Read all the reviews on wp7 and you'll see them all dislike it. Also can't you use the libwebkit.so file from galaxy tablet fix.
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It didn't work on old JPA, probably wont work now too.
The only "fix" is to switch off flash. And switch it on only when you need it.
dupel said:
It didn't work on ild JPA, probably wont work now too.
The only "fix" is to switch off flash. And switch it on only when you need it.
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+1, same experience here with JPAv7
how to switch off flash?
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how to switch off flash?
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Hi, not 100% sure, but open Internet >More>Settings>Enable plug-ins and switch from "Always" to "On demand" or "Off"
Speaking of JPO problems:
- my browser wont work at all. Gmail is ok, Market as well and when I start typing in the browser I see the suggestions, but it doesn't load anything.
Any ideas?
The browser really sucks in froyo
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BakaMod V1 - Froyo's Last Stand (2.2.1 KD1)
Built on the theory that LESS is MORE. This is a MINIMALIST Rom. It uses the most up to date Froyo base I could find. Why not Ginger? Well... battery.. GPS.. there are reasons to stick with Froyo IF you want reliability, speed and long life.
The battery on this rom is PHENOMENAL!
There will not be any updates to this ROM. I built it as a learning excercise, and while I think it is pretty stable, there are a couple few issues (all documented in this post) that I'm not prepared to deal with. Take it for what you will, if anybody wants to use this to do their own work and fix the issues, feel free, no credit required!
BASE: T959VUVKD1 from the SGS 4G by drhonk
FEATURES:
Removed tons of bloat. Didn't ADD my own bloat.
Accurate Battery Mod
Cianbreadish Status Bar
Simplified Boot Animation
GPS/Speed/Zipalign/Build Prop tweaks
Loopy Smoothness Tweak
No Full Battery Alert
No T-Mobile boot or shutdown sounds/animation.
6 Lockscreen/Power Menu Mod
KB1 Modem - Cuz I got great battery life.
Yes I know what Baka means. I use the term affectionately.
KERNEL: Bali-X 1.2
LAUNCHER: NemusLauncher
GPS
Should work perfectly as do all Froyo ROMs. I got a very quick lock (under 10 seconds) on first boot with this setup, with 10 satellites.
LAUNCHER
I went out on a limb including a relatively unheard of launcher. However, I find it to be a very lightweight and responsive launcher. A little different than you may be used to, it defaults to manual sorting of apps. To change this behaviour, from the app drawer, select Menu->MainMenu Style->Alphabetical, and it will go to vertical scrolling alphabetically.
KNOWN ISSUES
1. Apps2SD - KD1 assumes you want apps on the SDCard, even if the app doesn't prefer that location. Can cause issues. Only apps that explicitely block being installed to SD get installed to Phone Memory.
2. Wifi Calling - Not ported and probably won't be.
3. 4G Icon - I didn't notice it was still in the theme. Rest assured, your phone hasn't been granted magical 4G capability.
4. Locales: I won't be porting these. Looks like a nightmare, and unless this ROM becomes popular (which it won't), there's not much benefit.
5. Camera - It has the FFC button, but I'm not sure if the FFC works without additional hacking. Haven't tried it, I don't have an FFC.
INSTALL
The usual - flash from CWM. If you have issues, WIPE FIRST. Does not require any special boot loaders. Nothing to see here.
GET BLOATED
View the BLOAT on my website here: http://tsukaima.net/KD1Bloat/ and download whatever is missing that you want. Drop the missing junk into /system/app via ADB or Root Explorer, and feel re-bloated! Do note that these Bloats are for KD1 only!
Any other Google Bloat can be gotten from the market.
DOWNLOAD
http://www.multiupload.com/IW8EV3BT9X
NOTE:
I pulled the default Undervolt version. The only difference is it included the config file that you can generate using the Voltage Control app. It also crapped out some phones. I did this rather than a 1.1 release. After what appeared to be stable testing of the 1.1 release with only minor changes, it suddenly went crashy and bootloopy. Probably due to changes in the startup scripts, those things are touchy.
So... consider this the first and last release of BakaMod. Why? Well, there are some issues with KD1 that were never resolved, such as its installing apps to SD Card regardless of app preferences, as well as a few other minor issues that I'm just not prepared to address. As is, it is a usable ROM, but I plan to spend my energy elsewhere and let this release stand for what it is, which is actually a pretty usable 2.2.1.
Baka? Maybe you should change the name...Baka is Japanese for idiot/ stupid...
Can you tell me if wificalling works?
duboi97 said:
Baka? Maybe you should change the name...Baka is Japanese for idiot/ stupid...
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I know exactly what it means.
Dattack said:
Can you tell me if wificalling works?
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Not at this time. I'm not sure what all is involved in porting over the wifi calling app. If there's much interest in the ROM itself, I may take a look at that as well.
Sir you just got 2 thanks I'm 106 MB into downloading this...
duboi97 said:
Sir you just got 2 thanks I'm 106 MB into downloading this...
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If you have any issues, let me know. I may be a ばか, but I'm learning rapidly!
Lol I'm not Japanese, but I've seen enough anime to know what Baka means...144 MB in!
Edit: Oh god I lost connection when I was at 151 MB, but it was okay I dodged a bullet there...Its done now...
duboi97 said:
Lol I'm not Japanese, but I've seen enough anime to know what Baka means...144 MB in!
Edit: Oh god I lost connection when I was at 151 MB, but it was okay I dodged a bullet there...Its done now...
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Well I used my personal hosting for it rather than one of those silly click-through-everything and wait hosts... so resuming shouldn't have been an issue. Hopefully they didn't lie when they said unlimited bandwidth LOL...
Would it be okay to edit the build.prop and add the tweaks from Master&Slave's thread through 7zip or something like that?
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Would it be okay to edit the build.prop and add the tweaks from Master&Slave's thread through 7zip or something like that?
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I think you'd have to re-sign the zip if you did that. It might be better just to pull the existing one with adb and then push it back, or use root explorer.
The reason I didn't include the 3G tweaks from his thread, are that they are typically more or less helpful for each user depending on the local network conditions.
Oh screw it then...I'm throttled regardless I was talking about the sleep policies though..
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Oh screw it then...I'm throttled regardless I was talking about the sleep policies though..
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That part should already be in there. Will double check before I do any updates.
Oh alright then...I'm putting the ROM on my SD right now so I'll report back soon. I Odin'd to JFD for a clean flash as well..
duboi97 said:
Oh alright then...I'm putting the ROM on my SD right now so I'll report back soon. I Odin'd to JFD for a clean flash as well..
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Been meaning to odin to JFD myself... have wanted to pull the framework from it to make an Eclair theme for nostalgia purposes LOL...
Phone is about to boot! Voodoo just got done activating...nice boot animation reminds me of the stock Mytouch 3g one lol I always adored that for some reason. Now I got to wait until 3:30 (midwest) to reboot ugh
I was just on JFD two days ago because I just got off of CM7 to flash DMZ and I JFD'd to flash this ROM as well time consuming, but I think its worth it...
When I boot up my phone it boots up first it boots then it has to boot over again 0.o hard to explain, but at first my phone wouldn't get signal then I had to reboot again (after the initial one) now everything is fine and I'm gonna dive into this ROM.
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When I boot up my phone it boots up first it boots then it has to boot over again 0.o hard to explain, but at first my phone wouldn't get signal then I had to reboot again (after the initial one) now everything is fine and I'm gonna dive into this ROM.
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Odd, not sure why it would double boot... Mine hasn't done that and I've flashed this several times tweaking everything. Maybe it is due to the recent ODIN? Or are you still on GB boot loaders maybe? If it continues to act up, it could be due to undervolting... I took a risk including that by default, but I think most phones can handle the settings I included. If not, I'll update it and let people undervolt via the market app, but in my experience it's a little daunting to be setting that up yourself for most people.
This is 2.2.1 so is call routing through headphones without mic working?
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mohitmoudgil said:
This is 2.2.1 so is call routing through headphones without mic working?
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Oooh, good catch. I'm not sure - and I do randomly use that feature in my car (have audio go through the car speakers)... I will let you know once I try it. If not, I'll have to investigate the issue.
Say, the Russian language there is? how much RAM?
I'm experiencing something I didn't have before.
Applications gets closed instead of keep running in background when they get minimized for any reason, either if I press the home button or I get an incoming call.
An annoying example is receiving a call while using GPS navigation: after the call screen comes out the navigation software is closed and when I try to resume it, it will start as a new launch.
I've tried some search, and I understand could be something related to android memory management. But I'm not such an expert, and I don't see thing like this here in the SGS forum, which is (I think) still good enough as a device to be able to manage a call and a navigator both running together. Plus, I didn't have this before.
I'm on 2.3.3 JV3
Thanks.
Same problem here 2.3.5 jvs
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eresac said:
I'm experiencing something I didn't have before.
Applications gets closed instead of keep running in background when they get minimized for any reason, either if I press the home button or I get an incoming call.
An annoying example is receiving a call while using GPS navigation: after the call screen comes out the navigation software is closed and when I try to resume it, it will start as a new launch.
I've tried some search, and I understand could be something related to android memory management. But I'm not such an expert, and I don't see thing like this here in the SGS forum, which is (I think) still good enough as a device to be able to manage a call and a navigator both running together. Plus, I didn't have this before.
I'm on 2.3.3 JV3
Thanks.
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I've only experienced this with games, I think it might be because apps/games are not optimized for Gingerbread
Well it seems I'm not alone.
Any suggestion is welcome.
Well if ypu arecrooted then flash semaphore kernle and then install semaphore tool.
Then change ram settings to mulitasking 32 mb from the semaphore tool app.
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BHuvan goyal said:
Well if ypu arecrooted then flash semaphore kernle and then install semaphore tool.
Then change ram settings to mulitasking 32 mb from the semaphore tool app.
sent from the beast known as samsung galaxy s. ;-)
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You're suggestion worked for me. Thank you very much.
I'm still wondering why it's happening now, and not before...
eresac said:
You're suggestion worked for me. Thank you very much.
I'm still wondering why it's happening now, and not before...
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Did you change ROMs? Kernels? Anything? Somehow your RAM settings must have changed.
V6 Supercharger script can also accomplish the same thing, in case anyone needs a solution but wants to keep their current kernel.
upichie said:
Did you change ROMs? Kernels? Anything? Somehow your RAM settings must have changed.
V6 Supercharger script can also accomplish the same thing, in case anyone needs a solution but wants to keep their current kernel.
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Well, I can say this behavior appeared after upgrading to stock (official/kies) 2.3.3 (CF-root ed as the previous).
Honestly I can not state from what change depended from.
Anyway, just my humble point of view after facing that, this thing could open a nice discussion on android memory manager, and the strategy/philosophy above.
eresac said:
Well, I can say this behavior appeared after upgrading to stock (official/kies) 2.3.3 (CF-root ed as the previous).
Honestly I can not state from what change depended from.
Anyway, just my humble point of view after facing that, this thing could open a nice discussion on android memory manager, and the strategy/philosophy above.
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There is plenty of information regarding Android's memory management—on this forum and abroad—if you're interested in learning.
Did you upgrade from Froyo? If so, that would be why.
upichie said:
There is plenty of information regarding Android's memory management—on this forum and abroad—if you're interested in learning.
Did you upgrade from Froyo? If so, that would be why.
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This means that Froyo is better in memory usage, at least for the SGS, I guess.
I simply didn't take care about that when decided to upgrade, thinking "SGS is powerful enough". Think I'll have to investigate.
Anyway thanks for all your support.
I'm currently running 2.3.6 xxjw4 (rooted) and I rather like the official stock Samsung roms and I was wondering if there was a room that was kept as close to stock as possible for galaxy s and if so would it be worth me upgrading, what are the biggest improvements?
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i asked there same question, search for debate. I use slim 3.7 with semaphore, I get 399 mb ram, its very fast, multi tasking is awesome, very solid, only downside is gps is not as good with ics. Take a nandroid backup and try it, you'll love it
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multi tasking is awesome
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just curious.
multitasking for what?
I currently use stock gb jw5, and use at the same time gps+navi, music player and phone calls or text, with some background utilities (tasker, avast) with no problems at all.
btw, what's the use of multitasking with a small screen?
you cannot have several apps running on foreground at the same time. sgs is not a tablet, go figure a pc.
can you pls specify what kind of multitasking and in which way it is better than gb?
Does it have the tw launcher? And the big Widgets at the top of the status bar like a stock Samsung Rom?
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After encountering bugs in a few ICS rom's, I ran back to the more stable GB custom rom's. I've also noticed that battery backup is better on the GB rom's.
I'm open to suggestions and also willing to try if anyone here can recommend stable ICS rom's to me.
lcampori said:
just curious.
multitasking for what?
I currently use stock gb jw5, and use at the same time gps+navi, music player and phone calls or text, with some background utilities (tasker, avast) with no problems at all.
btw, what's the use of multitasking with a small screen?
you cannot have several apps running on foreground at the same time. sgs is not a tablet, go figure a pc.
can you pls specify what kind of multitasking and in which way it is better than gb?
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multitasking is the ability to run (or appear to run) more than 1 program at the same time, the SGS is generally restricted by memory meaning when you run a new app, another app has to stop in order to free up memory. ICS has more memory than GB (399mb) meaning more apps can run at the same time, meaning its better for multitasking. multitasking doesnt mean apps are running in the foreground. ICS also runs a lot faster and has more features. Take a nandroid backup and try it!
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multitasking is the ability to run (or appear to run) more than 1 program at the same time, the SGS is generally restricted by memory meaning when you run a new app, another app has to stop in order to free up memory. ICS has more memory than GB (399mb) meaning more apps can run at the same time, meaning its better for multitasking. multitasking doesnt mean apps are running in the foreground. ICS also runs a lot faster and has more features. Take a nandroid backup and try it!
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thanks, but
1- I know what multitasking is...
2- I tried quite any available flavour of ics.
my point is different. On my pc at work as a finance employee, I have lotus notes, bloomberg, matlab, 2 or more excel istances, and who knows what running at the same time. At home, as a photographer, I have the browser, photoshop, lightroom, music player and who knows what else running at the same time.
this is useful multitasking. Not multitasking for the sake of having something you can tell friends. Oh, my phone does multitasking! By saying it has more memory so it is better for multitasking means nothing, sorry I do not want to sound rude, but... better for what, I mean, in real user experience?
On my phone if I browse the web, I don't need to have a photoshop batch running at the same time. Or a time consuming routine under some statistical app. Well, I do not feel I NEED it. If you check out your friends' status in facebook, you're not texting a friend on your sms app.
So my question was: what do you really need multitasking for on your phone with a small screen? Me, I have navigation and music player up while I'm driving, and all services needed to have a phone and a messaging system. bluetooth to communicate with car audio system, data mobile for navigation, tasker to control the settings a bit... but this can be done smoothly and fast with gb, so... exactly in what ics multitasking is better than gb, I am not talking about specs, I talk about real use. did you experience any fc in gb that you do not get in ics? or what? Can you give me some examples where you can take advantage of multitasking in ics better than gb?
this could be a potentially good reason to try ics once again.
More memory so you can run more stuff, its faster, so stuff runs better, more stuff being developed so more options, thats it dude
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More memory so you can run more stuff, its faster, so stuff runs better, more stuff being developed so more options, thats it dude
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I know the specs. Don't be generic. "You can run more stuff". Such as?
What kind of PRACTICAL advantage you have in ics vs gb regarding multitasking??
can you provide examples in your daily use?
can you provide any info about your actual improvement?
How many apps do you run at the same time? Why?
How many apps are you able to run smoother and faster at the same time compared to gb?
Gingerbread xxjw4 is better than any ics rom. Trust me I've used cm9 , aokp , weui, and slimics.
Only if your feeling bored and just wanna play a bit you can try out ics. Its nice and different. But don't expect same functionality and stability as gb rom especially xxjw4.
And if you like the touchwiz features like swipe to call etc.. you'll be disappointed.
gcuchiha said:
Gingerbread xxjw4 is better than any ics rom. Trust me I've used cm9 , aokp , weui, and slimics.
Only if your feeling bored and just wanna play a bit you can try out ics. Its nice and different. But don't expect same functionality and stability as gb rom especially xxjw4.
And if you like the touchwiz features like swipe to call etc.. you'll be disappointed.
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agree 100%
while stock gb (jw5 in my case) looks like it perfectly fits sgs, imho the same does not apply for ics, so far. The reason to me is straightforward, stock sgs roms are hardware specific since they also include closed source drivers, as far as I know.
but of course, you'd better try and decide by yourself, ics is free!
last time I tried cm9 - a couple of weeks ago - I got some random reboots, but maybe I messed up things, I do not know, and maybe newer nightlies or other ics roms are more stable.
Hi.
I'm on ICS333 1.1 for two days now. I tried nearly all the other ics roms, but this one is the best, in my opinion. everything works fine.
I can't tell you if its possible to use an external sd-card (within ICS) because i'm not using one. But the rom is fast and smooth. gps, wifi, hspa, cam etc. is working without issues.
The only thing to mention is, that when locking the phone, you got access to the notification bar if you got the std lockscreen on (swype to unlock). so i'm using patternlock.
backup your efs-folder ans try it out.
greetz, andi. sry for my bad english