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Chrome to phone?

I may be the only one interested in this, and I know its set for froyo 2.2 and not sure if its possible but is there no way to port this back one version? Maybe make it work for us?
I really like the idea and would be disappointed to have to wait the loooooooooong time before 2.2 is ported to G1.

no it uses the new pushy mc jig from froyo
probably could back port the whole framework, but seems like a wast ogf time to me

atantekeier said:
I may be the only one interested in this, and I know its set for froyo 2.2 and not sure if its possible but is there no way to port this back one version? Maybe make it work for us?
I really like the idea and would be disappointed to have to wait the loooooooooong time before 2.2 is ported to G1.
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How do you know it will be such a long time?
Depending on the code changes between 2.1 and 2.2, it may be little more than trivial to get 2.2 running.
Also, I suggest that the first step required in either backporting or building a whole system would be to actually wait for the availability of the source code. Then we judge what would be a more efficient use of time -- building a whole system or backporting chunks of it.

2.2 will support the ION, so in turn, it will support the Dream. We just have to WAIT for it, people.

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Just a thought: during the google io presentation of google TV they make a presentation of this feature with the google box in 2.1. So I don't know if the sdk or the source code is published but can't we use that to make it working with eclair roms?
PS: here at 1:30

Time is relative here, by the time a new update is released from modders porting it to another much older phone version a new version is almost ready to be released.
This is not a bad thing and Im not talking down about it ether. But was simply asking the question if it would take too much effort to get just that .apk to work for even 2.1 that is now very stable on the G1.
2.2 was just released, and it will probably take a while to get it stable, to the point where 2.0 or 2.1 is now for the G1 anyways.
I just really like the chrome to phone and think its a super idea. Maybe I'm a bit impatient too.

android 2.2???

i was just curious if the hero was getting the 2.2 update? doesnt look like much of a difference but im still curious

It is highly unlikely that we will see an official release of 2.2, but the devs here on this forum will try to work on it. darchstar has already stated that when the 2.2 source is released and implemented into Cyanogen mod, he will port it over.
While it might seem that different, there are a lot of major changes, especially in speeed. The Market has an autoupdate feature in 2.2, Apps2SD is built in (but, I assume, it's not based on our same Apps2SD. Just the same function), and JIT is fully functioning and working as it should. The Nexus One running 2.2 runs almost 8 times faster than it does with 2.1, or so I've been told.

lol, let the 2.2 threads begin....
We barely got 2.1.
Im sure after the devs get froyo working, sprint will steal it, mod it slightly, leak it back out to the devs for them to tweak, and us to test, then sprint will release it officially about 6 months later, blaming htc for the hold up and it will still have tons of problems. Then the devs will figure out how to root it and sprint/htc will put out a update almost the next day to patch the root exploit.
Anyone else have a idea?

DevinXtreme said:
It is highly unlikely that we will see an official release of 2.2, but the devs here on this forum will try to work on it. darchstar has already stated that when the 2.2 source is released and implemented into Cyanogen mod, he will port it over.
While it might seem that different, there are a lot of major changes, especially in speeed. The Market has an autoupdate feature in 2.2, Apps2SD is built in (but, I assume, it's not based on our same Apps2SD. Just the same function), and JIT is fully functioning and working as it should. The Nexus One running 2.2 runs almost 8 times faster than it does with 2.1, or so I've been told.
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So would you say it will be an ......"extreme" improvement (har har har oh not funny). Yeah your right we'll probably never see an official release. Unlike tmobile who have said or rumored to say all their phones that can get it will.

thatguythatdid said:
So would you say it will be an ......"extreme" improvement.
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Nope. I would, however, say it would be pretty Xtreme
I would love to see 2.2 on my Hero. Especially because that would mean I could go into Sprint and show them that my Hero is running faster than their EVO

thanks for the feedback guys. yeah i was watching videos of the nexus one running 2.2 and that thing was blazing fast!!!

i sent HTC a message last night asking if the hero was going to get the 2.2 release and this was there response...
(Hello Chris, Thank you for taking the time to contact HTC America Technical Support about your device. Before releasing a ROM update we have to be sure that the software is going to work properly on your hardware and on your carrier’s network. This testing does take some time but will result in an update that is optimized to work on your device and on your carrier’s network. While we want to release software as soon as we can we will only do so once the software has passed our quality standards. At this time we do not have any information about an update for your device. When the update is released it will be announced on HTC.com.)

So basically "We don't feel like it"

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So basically "We don't feel like it"
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yeah basically who needs official anyways. we can do it ourselfs!! lolol

the 2.1s are still buggy... stock or not. i don't even want to think about 2.2 yet.

Only way to fix bugs is with updates.
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Are there any roms better than stock for this phone?

There was such a good selection on the desire.there appears to be such a limited selection on the galaxy s...none seem that good.
Can people recommend which is best and why? Looking for a fast and stable rom.

My rom is xxjm1 by the way.

Not yet, stock is still the most trouble free for now. Won't last long though.

Its my understand (and hopefullness) that most devs FroYo. Most (if not all) are just themed and optimized roms at the moment.

We want froyo !
Yes, most devs are waiting for froyo, just because everyone will want to upgrade, and there is just no justification to make a custom rom with 2.1 just for a few weeks.

Have you not tried SamSet? Dude there are about 4 different Custom ROMs on XDA :| how can you say there are no good ones as you haven't even tried any?
Devs are waiting for FroYo and Cyanogen Mod, that'll increase the ROM majority. The Desire has FroYo (Official) AND Cyanogen Mod, so there are tons of ROMs. Stock isn't the best atm, SamSets is the best for now.

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Have you not tried SamSet? Dude there are about 4 different Custom ROMs on XDA :| how can you say there are no good ones as you haven't even tried any?
Devs are waiting for FroYo and Cyanogen Mod, that'll increase the ROM majority. The Desire has FroYo (Official) AND Cyanogen Mod, so there are tons of ROMs. Stock isn't the best atm, SamSets is the best for now.
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first off, 4 roms is nothing.
Secondly, setzuna or whatever he is called produced a bog standard rom for the desire.
I want quality original roms. Hopefully asop pure roms like cyanogen.
The galaxy s roms are poop at the moment.
Really...

Desire has 6month head start, also helps when the desire is clone of nexus one which is reference dev gadget so what do you expect. Have look at other latest devices that came out in last 2 months and tell me if they even have roms yet, you have been spoilt.
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Agreed, ROM selection for the Hero (my last phone) were much better. I've tried HackEclair, Doc's StockRomMod and SamSet (currently the one I'm using).
From reading the forums, it really does look like all the devs are just waiting on the official Froyo release. I also read somewhere that the ROMs must be based off of official firmwares or else they won't work, which would make sense why it's difficult to get Sense-like interfaces on the phone.
Either way, it's only a few weeks - if that - until the official Froyo!

jaketurbo said:
first off, 4 roms is nothing.
Secondly, setzuna or whatever he is called produced a bog standard rom for the desire.
I want quality original roms. Hopefully asop pure roms like cyanogen.
The galaxy s roms are poop at the moment.
Really...
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Seriously? did you not even read my post at all?
you CAN'T produce a 'bog' standard ROM for the SGS yet, It's been done for the other Galaxy S version(s) (ASOP ROM) but that's in BETA stage and some features don't even work. We have to wait for Cyanogen.
If you really want 'quality' original ROMs make them yourself. The devs here do it in their free time and aren't doing this to tailor your every suit and need, and you don't pay them for it and they do it out of sole interest. SetENZA makes ROMs because he obviously enjoys it and the challenge, and shares it with the community, and you can't compare the SGS and Desire development, they're both entirely different and the SGS is newer, meaning the Desire has more backing.
How are they 'poop' if you haven't even tested a single custom ROM?
I agree that we need more development but seriously, if you are implying that no dev is making a good custom ROM at the moment then you are VERY wrong. SamSet is the most stable one for now, DocRambone is stripped entirely so check his ROMs out. You need to read up a bit more, we all know that there is slow ROM development and for a REASON.

Hurry up Sammy.

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Seriously? did you not even read my post at all?
you CAN'T produce a 'bog' standard ROM for the SGS yet, It's been done for the other Galaxy S version(s) (ASOP ROM) but that's in BETA stage and some features don't even work. We have to wait for Cyanogen.
If you really want 'quality' original ROMs make them yourself. The devs here do it in their free time and aren't doing this to tailor your every suit and need, and you don't pay them for it and they do it out of sole interest. SetENZA makes ROMs because he obviously enjoys it and the challenge, and shares it with the community, and you can't compare the SGS and Desire development, they're both entirely different and the SGS is newer, meaning the Desire has more backing.
How are they 'poop' if you haven't even tested a single custom ROM?
I agree that we need more development but seriously, if you are implying that no dev is making a good custom ROM at the moment then you are VERY wrong. SamSet is the most stable one for now, DocRambone is stripped entirely so check his ROMs out. You need to read up a bit more, we all know that there is slow ROM development and for a REASON.
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hi,
Please don't make these assumptions. I have tried a couple of the roms and am back to my original stock rom now because none of them seem better than it.
I also wasn't suggesting that people weren't making roms or that things won't get better. I am just disappointed its taking a long time. I had good 2.1 roms within a month of me having a desire, asop 2.2 within 2 months.
Anyhow, the roms have a long way to go it seems... They aren't the best at the moment but I'm sure they will be great soon enough.

jaketurbo said:
hi,
Please don't make these assumptions. I have tried a couple of the roms and am back to my original stock rom now because none of them seem better than it.
I also wasn't suggesting that people weren't making roms or that things won't get better. I am just disappointed its taking a long time. I had good 2.1 roms within a month of me having a desire, asop 2.2 within 2 months.
Anyhow, the roms have a long way to go it seems... They aren't the best at the moment but I'm sure they will be great soon enough.
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Okay, fair enough
Yeah but with patience we will see a fair share of ROMs in the next month, i guess these things take time, the Desire did get pretty popular though as it is HTC and Samsung is known for being crap with updates, but now the SGS is getting better and slowly it will overtake the Desire, i assure you.
Once Froyo is released, i think we can expect more than 4 ROMs

MAMBO04 said:
Okay, fair enough
Yeah but with patience we will see a fair share of ROMs in the next month, i guess these things take time, the Desire did get pretty popular though as it is HTC and Samsung is known for being crap with updates, but now the SGS is getting better and slowly it will overtake the Desire, i assure you.
Once Froyo is released, i think we can expect more than 4 ROMs
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Impt point to note is when Froyo is released by Samsung, because Samsung is known for its delays and lack of enthusiasm, that we all take for granted from HTC =( I miss my HD2 and Desire

jana999 said:
Impt point to note is when Froyo is released by Samsung, because Samsung is known for its delays and lack of enthusiasm, that we all take for granted from HTC =( I miss my HD2 and Desire
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Disagreed.
Yes, Samsung has been crap in the past but with this phone they're pushing a lot out. We are yet to see how they respond to the Froyo update and how they maintain it, so you may be right, but i think that in this case Samsung will release it and *hopefully* maintain it, if not then XDA is here to maintain all phones, of course
HD2 has potential for Android as it's been ported, but WinMo is horrible and the Sense interface just makes it that little bit better, so glad i ditched WinMo for Android. Desire is awesome but the inferior screen and sensitivity made me get the SGS because the hardware is just that little bit better

[Q] A few questions from a newbie on the fence on what to flash.

So after 2 awful years with a first gen Blackberry storm I decided to make the jump to android with the captivate. Originally I was holding out for the Nexus S as I really wanted a vanilla Android experience (I have a deep hatred for bloatware) but unfortunately around where I live it appears Verizon and AT&T are the only ways to go if you want any sort of decent coverage.
Anyways, I've been doing a bunch of research and watching videos the past week I've decided to flash either Perception (build 8) or Cognition (probably 2.3b6) and am leaning towards P8 as of now. I am wondering how much of these ROMs is vanilla android.
I realize from what I've read/watch that the touchwiz launcher is removed in both of these roms as well as the AT&T bloatware, but is much of the other base applications such as mail, media player, etc is still the samsung apps?
Basically, I'm wondering how close to vanilla android will the launcher/interface be with one of these Roms (obviously the roms include some additional apps, I guess I mean just the basic functionality/interface).
Also, is there a major difference between running a rom such as Perception or Cog opposed to simply unlocking/lag fixing and removing bloatware as far as general speed and lag. I know these roms are using leaked Froyo firmware opposed to the stock eclair I would have if I did not flash, but I'm curious how big of a leap in performance it is.
Thanks for the responses, hopefully my questions make sense, my captivates not coming till Monday (bought it through Amazon wireless) and I've been reading random android forums seemingly nonstop.

extragoodcat said:
So after 2 awful years with a first gen Blackberry storm I decided to make the jump to android with the captivate. Originally I was holding out for the Nexus S as I really wanted a vanilla Android experience (I have a deep hatred for bloatware) but unfortunately around where I live it appears Verizon and AT&T are the only ways to go if you want any sort of decent coverage.
Anyways, I've been doing a bunch of research and watching videos the past week I've decided to flash either Perception (build 8) or Cognition (probably 2.3b6) and am leaning towards P8 as of now. I am wondering how much of these ROMs is vanilla android.
I realize from what I've read/watch that the touchwiz launcher is removed in both of these roms as well as the AT&T bloatware, but is much of the other base applications such as mail, media player, etc is still the samsung apps?
Basically, I'm wondering how close to vanilla android will the launcher/interface be with one of these Roms (obviously the roms include some additional apps, I guess I mean just the basic functionality/interface).
Also, is there a major difference between running a rom such as Perception or Cog opposed to simply unlocking/lag fixing and removing bloatware as far as general speed and lag. I know these roms are using leaked Froyo firmware opposed to the stock eclair I would have if I did not flash, but I'm curious how big of a leap in performance it is.
Thanks for the responses, hopefully my questions make sense, my captivates not coming till Monday (bought it through Amazon wireless) and I've been reading random android forums seemingly nonstop.
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I always click thanks button before quote button now! Oh well.
I know cognition has twlauncher, not sure about perception (I don't remember..)
All custom ROMs have bloatware removed at your convenience. I'd say froyo is definitely faster. Either voodoo lagfix from xcal's kernel or lagfix from SetiroN's kernel gives a big performance increase. Cognition is based on a captivate rom whereas perception is based on an i9000 ROM.
No ROMs right now provide complete vanilla experience. I believe I read it somewhere that the Galaxy S line devices use rfs loops whereas usual android uses ext and this causes a problem for devs to port over vanilla android or other skins like HTC Sense. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong?) As of currently all the stable ROMs are based on froyo leaks with captivate, vibrant, or i9000.

I've tried many variations with stock roms, rooted, lag fixed etc. I currently use the cognition rom, latest one. It is much faster and better than the stock. It has voodoo lagfix built in. I haven't tried p8, because I like the cognition so well. I definately recommend giving cognition a try. I was also going to try Axura, but haven't for the same reason.
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Try Assonance or Axura. IMO they're more vanilla than Cognition or Perception.

Thanks for all the info all.
Honestly I haven't even looked into assonance or axura, are they as stable as Cog/Perception?
quarlow, when you say you use the latest version of Cog do you mean b6 or b7? I know b7 just came out a day or two ago. I'd stick with the non-oc versions, seems like they tend to have alot less issues from what I've read.

My bad, I'm using b6, I didn't know there was already another version. Yeah ... I don't do the oc thing. I have a hard enough time between charges without adding oc. It really is screaming fast already.
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Honestly I haven't even looked into assonance or axura, are they as stable as Cog/Perception?
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I haven't really tried Cognition or Perception, but I've tried both Axura and Assonance and both ROMs seemed really stable.

ah jeez, now that I've been looking into it, I think I'm gonna go with assonance. Seems like its alot more stable than either Cog/Perception from what people are saying.
Just curious though, how fast/smooth does it run? Compared to stock and/or Cog/Perception?

Axura gets my vote
Stable and fast without needing to overclock
Need to use google voice for vm notifications though
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All 2.2 Roms are smooth and fast compared to stock. Assonance will be your most vanilla (least amount of Samsung apps). Auxura is heavily themed and no where near vanilla. Plus it's based off of leaked Vibrant and I'm not a big fan (though I'm definitely in the minority here). Personal favorite is di11igaf's Rom. It is also heavily themed, but all themes can be changed and it works the best as far as functionality (my opinion, of course).

majinzen said:
All 2.2 Roms are smooth and fast compared to stock. Assonance will be your most vanilla (least amount of Samsung apps). Auxura is heavily themed and no where near vanilla. Plus it's based off of leaked Vibrant and I'm not a big fan (though I'm definitely in the minority here). Personal favorite is di11igaf's Rom. It is also heavily themed, but all themes can be changed and it works the best as far as functionality (my opinion, of course).
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I'll second this. di11igaf's ROM is the most stable and fastest I've used. It might not be "vanilla" since it is themed, but the dark theme on it is so nice. You'll like it. I've flashed this for friends at work and they all love it and they have no more forced close issues, whereas they complained frequently about FCs with Cognition.

If you don't mind beta software, CyanogenMod is the best. It's actually built from AOSP code, with only Samsung drivers. All the other custom roms are just modified versions of the stock rom/leaked rom.

I run perception 8 with gingerbread theme and vanilla apps injected in place of sammy ones... so I kinda feel like im running gingerbread
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[Q] Gingerbread for Captivate

At one point wasnt there an internal build Gingerbread rom "leaked" from Samsung for the Galaxy S? I thought at one point I remember reading that there was. If there was, is anybody doctoring it up for the Captivate?
I'd like to go for Gingerbread on my Captivate but kind of dont want CM7, since it's stock based its too "green". I actually kind of like the samsung touchwiz based roms since they have the blue highlighting and the TW launcher isnt too bad, it looks sooooo much better than that puke green color of stock gingerbread.

derek4484 said:
At one point wasnt there an internal build Gingerbread rom "leaked" from Samsung for the Galaxy S? I thought at one point I remember reading that there was. If there was, is anybody doctoring it up for the Captivate?
I'd like to go for Gingerbread on my Captivate but kind of dont want CM7, since it's stock based its too "green". I actually kind of like the samsung touchwiz based roms since they have the blue highlighting and the TW launcher isnt too bad, it looks sooooo much better than that puke green color of stock gingerbread.
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There was a leak for the I9000 but since they did not release the source code it can not be ported over to the Captivate.

so far there is CM7 and Miui built off 2.3.3.. your only 2 choices so far. Neither are out of beta yet.

i believe samsung has said they will be releasing gingerbread for the galaxy s phones starting as early as next month... not that I think they can keep a date to save their lives, but they do generally follow through... eventually

just wait for a while, since others (htc, sony) will release 2.3 update pretty soon, samsung will do the same thing ...

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i believe samsung has said they will be releasing gingerbread for the galaxy s phones starting as early as next month... not that I think they can keep a date to save their lives, but they do generally follow through... eventually
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once again, like last time. samsung released on time, but to the carriers not us. the carriers then got do decide if/and what to do with it. ATT dropped the date. not samsung.
there are already theads for the gingerbread rumor.
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