Im trying to decide on which Rom to install. Im searching for a stock android experience with the most stability and the least amount of bugs. I notice that Rubix is very popular and I see Fission is up and coming. If I read correctly the new rubiX is based off of the Fission base? Has anyone tried both?
I only had Fission running for a little bit but I RubiX is VERY fast and is 100% without all the Motoblur bloatware & it's been optimized as well.
I'm not sure what camera Fission has, but RubiX has the ASOP camera which is very fugly imho. I hope someone allows for the UI from the original DX to be ported over b/c it is much prettier.
You. Can just grab it from a blur rom. Paste it to /system and change permissions and the blu camera will work.
Richie97 said:
You. Can just grab it from a blur rom. Paste it to /system and change permissions and the blu camera will work.
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Don,t forget if you do, do this, that you will also have to move over the video player as well!
I installed fission 1.1 test 4 and it worked well...
then i installed rubix 1.0 focused and pretty much felt in love.
I will admit I still question rather i should give fission another try but I will see.
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You. Can just grab it from a blur rom. Paste it to /system and change permissions and the blu camera will work.
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This method works great to get the DX camera back which is WAAYYY better than AOSP camera. But the other poster is right, you have to move the videoplayer.apk over too.
On another note, anyone know how I can get 3G hotspot back in Rubix 1.0? I tried copying over Mynet.apk and even flashing the TBH hotspot but it seems that Rubix doesn't want to recognize it.
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This method works great to get the DX camera back which is WAAYYY better than AOSP camera. But the other poster is right, you have to move the videoplayer.apk over too.
On another note, anyone know how I can get 3G hotspot back in Rubix 1.0? I tried copying over Mynet.apk and even flashing the TBH hotspot but it seems that Rubix doesn't want to recognize it.
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Actually, the AOSP camera takes way better pictures. The blur camera is very very grainy and doesn't look good. Even with low ISO settings, my pics with the blur camera suck. 8mp on the AOSP looks worlds better than 8mp on the blur.
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i prefer rubix. it seems less buggy to me. plus I can restore back to it if I need to. for some reason with fission, if i restore back to an earlier install it messes up my phone and I have to wipe data/cache and reinstall it all over again. also rubix has a nice boot animation which is an extra bonus.
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So I've been a lurker on the boards for awhile, following the Android development and experimenting as I can, since I want to start doing my own ports. However, recently I've been running into an issue that I'm trying to fix.
I've searched the boards and have only found one solution, but I want to see if there are other options.
Do any Android Builds have a working camera? I know zenulator developed a Donut 1.6 build with a working camera but I found it's not nearly fast enough on my system (Vouge running Myn's Warm Donut) for me to make the switch, in addition to not being updated since November. Are there any other builds with a camera? I'm not too upset, it just irks me that I have to reboot WM just to take pictures.
Not sure what you are talking about. All donut builds have a working camera (the quality is not as good as WinMo, but it works)
The Eclair builds do not have working cameras.
In some of the kernels the camera app is soft resetting the device
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In some of the kernels the camera app is soft resetting the device
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I believe you need a kernal from 4-6-10(April 6th) or earlier to avoid camera reset.
I'm guessing that fixing the camera quality is not an easy task otherwise it would probably be done. But I think it would be great if we could get the same picture quality as winmo. Is anyone working on this?
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I'm guessing that fixing the camera quality is not an easy task otherwise it would probably be done. But I think it would be great if we could get the same picture quality as winmo. Is anyone working on this?
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id like to know this aswell aslo is anyone working on video with the camera?
VirginIncVuture, [ROM] Myn’s Warm Donut - [RLS 5 - 04/24/2010] -Added 240x320 Complaint Dialer 05/07 All work's great!!! But i like Eclair with no worked Camera, Voice Dial, Bluetooth!
Third inquiry as to the camera quality.
Does anybody have plans for the camera?
doesn't sound like it man.
Yeah I worked really hard at getting the camera to work through Donut only to later look at the actual picture quality and it wasn't even worth my time (
Shame really...
Yeah I mean the quality on Myn's rom is OK I guess. But it's not really worth the development time unless it looks like it did while using it on WinMo. Totally a shame...
Sorry, but whose dev time is it not worth?
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Yeah I mean the quality on Myn's rom is OK I guess. But it's not really worth the development time unless it looks like it did while using it on WinMo. Totally a shame...
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I find the camera results are *better* in Android than WinMo. Do not judge the camera by the preview, which is pretty crappy on vogue android. The picture will not look like the preview.
The lack of any camera support in Eclair for the past 4 months is the only thing keeping me off it. I really wish I knew what was wrong.
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I find the camera results are *better* in Android than WinMo. Do not judge the camera by the preview, which is pretty crappy on vogue android. The picture will not look like the preview.
The lack of any camera support in Eclair for the past 4 months is the only thing keeping me off it. I really wish I knew what was wrong.
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Really?
I always assumed that the low quality pics in Android would look the same on my laptop. I will have to take a look for myself.
Thx...
myn's for sure the camera works at 320x480 if you use a non native resolution the camera for me has not worked
The quality is atrocious no matter what.
I have used warm donuts 320x240 and this is a sample of 320x480
http://imgur.com/57UTs.jpg
Yeah the quality is actually pretty bad, its not just a preview issue.
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I just saw a couple posts regarding CM6, but I'm running TheOfficial ROM from Enom and I love it. Flashed to CM6 just to give it a shot and I am indifferent on the matter... Maybe someone can provide some input on to why i should use CM6.
Thanks a lot
Zach
Both are very solid roms to use, last few months I've been using enomter's rom and changed a few things on that. CM6 just came out and its been awhile since I used a rom from cyanogen so I flashed it and currently been running that. Also changed a few things, added enomthers, kang o rama wallpapers, changed the phone to galaxy s phone, not sure what else Ive done so far.
Its all personal preference, I loved used enomthers themed version, cm6 has a themed version out as well and its very simliar to enomthers. Detail and very good looking eye candy and both run smooth. As of now I ll stick with cm6 till enmother gets updated reasons are:
Power widget:custom, choose what you want in the bar
power button: reboot, recovery bootloader (really liking this)
dial pad (prefered the custom) did push galax s dial pad on for now
cyanogen mod settings simple to use and like location
battery life is pretty solid as well
Of the two I prefer Cyanogen. But I am running InnovationOS and think it is by far the best.
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Of the two I prefer Cyanogen. But I am running InnovationOS and think it is by far the best.
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hmm...
i may run cyanogen for a bit.
what does InnovationOS do that makes it better?
flash one for a week then switch to the other and see which you prefer. Both roms have so many little things that make each unique it would be much easier for you just try both and see for yourself which is better.
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flash one for a week then switch to the other and see which you prefer. Both roms have so many little things that make each unique it would be much easier for you just try both and see for yourself which is better.
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alright. where do i get these roms? (cyano comes on rom manager)
thanks
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alright. where do i get these roms? (cyano comes on rom manager)
thanks
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Here is the Enom one, he has said that he will update with a newer Alpha version tonight, best for you to just go with the 2.11.3 stable rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614427
just place it on the root of your sd card and (if your using rom manager) select install from sd card(be sure to both backup and wipe) the wipe wont touch your sdcard, only the phones internal memory
Also there is a themed version and a non themed version, ill let you pick
-cheers
I like InnovationOS because it has a sense like feel without all the glut. But it doesn't have all the tweaks of the others.
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Enom fort the old style apps2sd
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Enom fort the old style apps2sd
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Yeah, thats another thing with Cyanogen i missed/mow have again was/is apps to sd. There is no way for me to activate apps2sd besides just the normal default way froyo lets you on TheOfficial. Cyanogen lets you go to town with apps2sd in 6.0.0.
I'm not sure how i am liking cyanogenmod 6.0.0 vs TheOfficial. There are a couple things i like and dislike, and a couple things that are the same.
I like the render effects in cm (it has cool renders, not just solid colors)
i DISLIKE ADWLauncher replacing the stock launcher. i have never liked this.
the trackball alerts are about the same.
I dont know. ill post more things as i see them, but i dont know where to be in terms of ROMs. InnovationOS just doesnt sound like my cup of tea
Well, it's just a personal preference... both are amazing ROMs... IMHO, enomther's is rock-stable... cyanogenmod 6 is more bleeding-edge (but super-stable none-the-less)... & you can remove adw launcher quite easily if you wish...
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Yeah, thats another thing with Cyanogen i missed/mow have again was/is apps to sd. There is no way for me to activate apps2sd besides just the normal default way froyo lets you on TheOfficial. Cyanogen lets you go to town with apps2sd in 6.0.0.
I'm not sure how i am liking cyanogenmod 6.0.0 vs TheOfficial. There are a couple things i like and dislike, and a couple things that are the same.
I like the render effects in cm (it has cool renders, not just solid colors)
i DISLIKE ADWLauncher replacing the stock launcher. i have never liked this.
the trackball alerts are about the same.
I dont know. ill post more things as i see them, but i dont know where to be in terms of ROMs. InnovationOS just doesnt sound like my cup of tea
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Not exactly sure what any of that meant, but in case you said: You can't use the ext partition apps2sd with Enom, that is incorrect. You certainly can, it's in his custom Spare Parts tool, like all of his other customization items.
I think he meant that for CM. I'm using Micromod now which is enom based.
The only thing that's holding me back from CM is that apps2ext.
What I mean by this is real bugs like the camera not working, etc. I don't care about "The text isn't the right color! FTL!" I'd like to ditch Blur, but it seems the most stable of them all.
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What I mean by this is real bugs like the camera not working, etc. I don't care about "The text isn't the right color! FTL!" I'd like to ditch Blur, but it seems the most stable of them all.
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The latest Rubix Focused (1.6) has been very stable for me.
I don't use camera much, but when I have, it's worked just fine.
the camera thing... in the three roms ive gone through i've had the smae problems, panoramic doesn't work and the vid camera doesn't work. all that needs to be done it put blurcamera.apk back into \system\app\ directory and all the features will work again. other than that you'll just find that backup assistant doesn't work on all of them, or will with some tweaking.
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the camera thing... in the three roms ive gone through i've had the smae problems, panoramic doesn't work and the vid camera doesn't work. all that needs to be done it put blurcamera.apk back into \system\app\ directory and all the features will work again. other than that you'll just find that backup assistant doesn't work on all of them, or will with some tweaking.
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What I did on rubix was install the dx camera from the add-on folder from the fission rom. Installed it like a rom thru bootstrap
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I guess I can run a few backups and start trying them out when I get time... I'm starting to feel my phone is a bit slow and clunky.
Selling mine. Tired of the quirks on the stock rom and more quirks on the custom roms. Fascinate even worse. Really been a let down with these two phones.
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hate to say, you were warned
even before these phones came out (the D2 and DX) we were warned about their OMAP processors and the e-fuse security employed by motorola/verizon making it highly improbable* that anyone would be able to subvert it, ever.
You are doing the right thing by selling it. No one interested in modding should have ever purchased one of these monsters, imho.
*I would have said impossible but many things deemed impossible have been shown to be merely improbable, however, this is as near impossible as it gets.
My spidey sense is telling me I'm about to be flamed, but oh well.
I'm not quite sure I know what people are looking for, when it comes to ROM's, or for that matter that why people are so concerned about the locked down kernels.
The main issues in my opinion were gaining root, solid customization, removal of bloat, proper tethering, and over/under-clocking.
All of those things have been addressed, and have only been getting better with time.
You can do all of the above without using a ROM, except the heavy customization and deeper removal of blur (which some people like, and some people do not).
The Droid X has an outstanding battery life, especially considering its largest in class screen size, it has a good processor, advanced graphics processing, solid reception and transmission, etc..
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Now to address to OP directly.
It really depends on what you expect of the ROM. Plenty of them work perfectly fine for almost all needs.
If you're looking for partial blur, but removal of bloat, improved speeds, and stability, I'd suggest trying RubiX 1.0 Blurry. It retains the Blur, is pretty much bug free as far as my experience was, improves speeds, removes bloat, and by using Titanium and making nandroids, you can remove extra chunks of blur, piece by piece, on your own.
I personally found Tranquility 3.0 as a pretty comfortable "starter friendly" ROM. It was very stable, and while it retains some bloat and blur, it's a bit faster than the stock ROM, has better battery life, and again using Titanium you could remove some extra junk that you don't want (being careful by creating nandroids in between).
I personally really dig Fission, which appears to be pushing itself towards a solid goal very quickly. It's going to be less user friendly at first, as it really starts digging into the removal and replacement of blur altogether (forget seeing even a hint of bloat here).
The basic idea is that there are apps that probably replace just about everything you're looking for. You may have been happy with the blur ones though, because no one should say that all of blur is terribly made. That's just not the case.
The idea of Fission is to get closer to a pure Android Vanilla feel, and to customize/replace the blur with other apps. I personally use Vignette for my camera app, and have ever since almost the first day that I bought the X. When people in the forums ask about whether or not a certain ROM could use the stock camera app (which many are able to), I usually just skip to the next post, because I know I don't need it. Vignette is better than the stock app, so why should I care either way. Granted it's a paid app, just like the blur camera app is a "paid" app, except only motorola users get to have it as part of the price of purchasing the phone.
Anyways, best of luck finding what you're looking for.
The ROMs will only get stronger for the X, but if you like the blur, and plenty (if not most users) do, then you don't have to go custom. You can root the stock ROM. You can tether it. You can create backups on many levels. You can over/under-clock it. By simply swapping to a stock deodexed version of the stock ROM, you can theme it. You can use Titanium to freeze or uninstall bloat, and some blur, that are normally protected....
I found ApeX 1.0 to be very stable, especially at higher clockspeeds.
I'm with you Stephen58. I have been on Apex with the Next theme for about 3 weeks. Rock solid stable and yea panoramic camera function does not work. Stable OC at 1.2. But I love it and I don't think I am going to change except for short periods of time on weekends to check out other ROM's. Right now, Apex is my use everyday ROM.
bladbarrier +1 i've never tried vignette, i just like the panoramic thing in blur.
VaughnGo-> my post ealier fixes the camera thing in apex.... actually for apex all you have to do is put blurcamera.apk in the root of your sd, and in terminal emulator type:
su
install blurcamera.apk
and fab's script will do the rest.
Apex has been basically bug free for me. I refuse to run a ROM that does not include (or allow use of) the droid x camera and the gallery (with working HDMI), as panoramic pictures and HDMI out are two capabilities of the phone (as a piece of hardware) that i use regularly and should not be excluded. Vignette is NOT better than the Droid X camera. Vignette is different.
Thanks for your help bmac! I will try installing the blurcamera.
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Apex has been basically bug free for me. I refuse to run a ROM that does not include (or allow use of) the droid x camera and the gallery (with working HDMI), as panoramic pictures and HDMI out are two capabilities of the phone (as a piece of hardware) that i use regularly and should not be excluded. Vignette is NOT better than the Droid X camera. Vignette is different.
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Which software for the camera you prefer is subjective, I suppose.
Either way, cell phone cameras are crap.
If I don't have my DSLR or compact with me, I generally just won't bother taking a picture at all. I suppose a lot of people could care less about image quality, or are taking pictures purely to be shared in small form on the internet, and that would be a fine use for a phone camera.
In all honesty, I would have preferred if they had left the camera off of the phone entirely, in order to make more room for a larger battery. Of course that wouldn't sell well to the masses.
I would encourage you to check out Chevy's SSX (Simply Stunning X). Its a good mix of blur and provides a handy utility to remove many blur components.
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Hi guys, how are you?
Can someone tell me wich one of the above rom's is the best and why?
Thanks
I've just installed MIUI and while I am impressed with many aspects, I am decidedly let down.
The speed of it is excellent, very smooth and enjoy a number of features of being able to customize the lock screen background, etc easily, however I much preferred the ability I had in stock standard to customize my homescreen better.
I might be missing some things, however my market is crashing constantly, so am unable to see if I can install a new home launcher over top (although I suppose to a degree that negates the point of installing the rom). The biggest ap I used was Pure calander scrolling widget, which can't be used (AFAIK) in MIUI, so this has really taken a big effect on my view of the rom.
I am about to reset and try darkies mod, as my understanding it seems very stock, with speed increases and several features removed.
I'm also hopefully going to try out Cyanogen mod tonight/tomorrow depending if I have the time to play around with Darkies tonight
Hope this helps somewhat.
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I've just installed MIUI and while I am impressed with many aspects, I am decidedly let down.
The speed of it is excellent, very smooth and enjoy a number of features of being able to customize the lock screen background, etc easily, however I much preferred the ability I had in stock standard to customize my homescreen better.
I might be missing some things, however my market is crashing constantly, so am unable to see if I can install a new home launcher over top (although I suppose to a degree that negates the point of installing the rom). The biggest ap I used was Pure calander scrolling widget, which can't be used (AFAIK) in MIUI, so this has really taken a big effect on my view of the rom.
I am about to reset and try darkies mod, as my understanding it seems very stock, with speed increases and several features removed.
I'm also hopefully going to try out Cyanogen mod tonight/tomorrow depending if I have the time to play around with Darkies tonight
Hope this helps somewhat.
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Yes, it help a lot... But one more question.
Can you make video calls in Miui? I use video call a lot with my parents and girlfriend so I don't wanna lose this feature...
Can't help you there. I've never used a video call in my life
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In saying the above, if I wasn't such an elitist on exactly how I wanted my homescreen to look, then I'd be very happy with MIUI. I'm not putting it down at all, it's a fantastic rom, but it just doesn't give me what I want out of it
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Can't help you there. I've never used a video call in my life
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Eh, eh, eh. Thanks anyway!
I think I'll give MIUI rom a try...
I've used both, they all arguably great roms.
I'm currently used Darky, because of the lack of FM Radio in MIUI. I'm a Fm dead fan, kinda bad habit....
However if MIUI figure out a solution for FM Radio, or if I find out a decent radio player I will definitely throw Darky away. IMHO compare to Darky, MIUI is superior in every aspects. Before I thought MIUI is too Apple, but then I gave it a shot, and I absolutely love it! The launcher is incredible, the mobile traffic counter is fantastic, MIUI music and Gallery are amazing, especially the music player!
In my phone, MIUI quadrant point is even higher than darky (1788 vs 1550), tho it's sort of lag sometimes. However, MIUI is suck when it plays MKV files (no sound with my files), tho it can be solved by using Moboplayer). MIUI also use different camera softwares, thus you would miss Darky if you need to take panorama.
In conclusion, I believe if you don't need FM player, or not a photographer, you must give MIUI a shot
Darky's rom
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I've used both, they all arguably great roms.
I'm currently used Darky, because of the lack of FM Radio in MIUI. I'm a Fm dead fan, kinda bad habit....
However if MIUI figure out a solution for FM Radio, or if I find out a decent radio player I will definitely throw Darky away. IMHO compare to Darky, MIUI is superior in every aspects. Before I thought MIUI is too Apple, but then I gave it a shot, and I absolutely love it! The launcher is incredible, the mobile traffic counter is fantastic, MIUI music and Gallery are amazing, especially the music player!
In my phone, MIUI quadrant point is even higher than darky (1788 vs 1550), tho it's sort of lag sometimes. However, MIUI is suck when it plays MKV files (no sound with my files), tho it can be solved by using Moboplayer). MIUI also use different camera softwares, thus you would miss Darky if you need to take panorama.
In conclusion, I believe if you don't need FM player, or not a photographer, you must give MIUI a shot
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Thanks, definitly I'll give it a go...
Already flashing froyo
Since miui i cant stand the layout of sammy roms anymore
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Since miui i cant stand the layout of sammy roms anymore
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Me either . The only prob is miui rom lacks a lot of features and I cant understand why... Video call, radio and so on... But in overall is the best rom I ever try in my galaxy s... What should I do?
I was on CM7 for one week, and I really enjoyed the look&feel of the whole ROM.
I was really sad going back to something sammy-based, but random phone-crashes, random non-working APN/wifi and the low battery life left me no choice.
I'm on Darky's 10.1 now, and I only thing I really miss is the AOSP calendar (TW-calendar sucks).
totally Darky's rom, as Miui change the layout of android
basically, Miui has its own layout...
or i should Miui is a "ios" base on Android
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I was on CM7 for one week, and I really enjoyed the look&feel of the whole ROM.
I was really sad going back to something sammy-based, but random phone-crashes, random non-working APN/wifi and the low battery life left me no choice.
I'm on Darky's 10.1 now, and I only thing I really miss is the AOSP calendar (TW-calendar sucks).
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is there any themes that could bring back the Samsung SGS theme on top of Darky's 10.1?
i'm loving all the new roms like cm7 or omfgb or vanilla gb. BUT im not liking the aosp camera included in any of them. too low of resolutions, at least in widescreen. also just missing a few other features i like.
is there a way to get the touchwiz/default/samsung camera installed onto any of the above listed roms? and if there is...could someone point me to where the needed apks/instructions are to install said camera?
thanks!
35 ppl looked and didnt know. dang. not looking good.
its not possible
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its not possible
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Everything is possible. What you mean is that it would take so much recoding that no one in their right mind will do it
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neh4pres said:
Everything is possible. What you mean is that it would take so much recoding that no one in their right mind will do it
Sent from a beautiful miui fascinate
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this; the froyo camera you were used to not only would take some work to make functional on gingerbread, it is touchwiz which multiplies that by 100. Remember how it took a really long time for jt to get the camera working on cm7? he had to rewrite drivers pretty much, you would have to essentially reverse engineer his work (I assume) to make froyo/touchwiz things work.
In the meantime, try out miui, they have a great camera with a lot of features like froyo did.
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