I downloaded the leaked froyo firmware to my captivate hoping it would solve a lot of the issues of lag but it still lags a lot like it's a phone from 2006. I downloaded the Ryan ZA one click lag fix and it still lags. I wanted to put voodoo on it but I have froyo and I don't think it will allow me to do it...what the heck is the problem and why is there so much hacking I have to do to get it to run smooth. The HTC Aria runs blazingly fast and quick from what I read and this Super Phone Galaxy S runs slower than a Hero? If anybody has an answer I'd like to know or if someone can offer some suggestions on how to improve this. It's pretty annoying.
crossover37 said:
I downloaded the leaked froyo firmware to my captivate hoping it would solve a lot of the issues of lag but it still lags a lot like it's a phone from 2006. I downloaded the Ryan ZA one click lag fix and it still lags. I wanted to put voodoo on it but I have froyo and I don't think it will allow me to do it...what the heck is the problem and why is there so much hacking I have to do to get it to run smooth. The HTC Aria runs blazingly fast and quick from what I read and this Super Phone Galaxy S runs slower than a Hero? If anybody has an answer I'd like to know or if someone can offer some suggestions on how to improve this. It's pretty annoying.
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Its called RFS... call up samsung and complain to them about it...
so many problems with this
a) wrong section, Q&A or general please
b) notice that word "leaked" in what you said? it means this isn't OFFICIAL, which means it likely ISN'T the final release, so it's bound to have at least some bugs.
c) ryanza lagfix is placebo and awful and doesn't work at all (on top of that, ext2 is a bad choice)
d) if you understood how/where the lag was coming from, you'd know why voodoo is "necessary" on 2.1
e) the aria is built EXTREMELY different from the captivate, it's like comparing the iphone to the nokia n8... yes they're both android, but they're built different which leads to complications
f) voodoo is not yet available for 2.2 because we don't have source code for 2.2 (again, if you knew how voodoo worked, you'd know why it wasn't instant)... we can hack it in with initramfs, and there are people working on it... but it isn't top priority
g) and shockingly a SMALLER piece of hardware with a SMALLER resolution made by a company known for making quality android phones runs smoother? shocker. honestly.
h) if you actually had any other real world interactions with other android phones, you'd know the lag is occasional but not unusual (hell I've seen just as bad or worse on the droid x before)
i) I suggest you read, read, read, search, read, read, and think before you make posts like the above (why on earth you thought this belongs in development is beyond me)
/rant
There are two kinds of lag. I/O lag is caused by the delays in accessing data stored on your phone in some partition. This is largely due to the use of RFS by Samsung, and the voodoo lag fix gets rid of most of that. Unfortunately there is no voodoo on Captivate leaked Froyo yet, as the source code has not yet been released by Samsung. The OCLF type fixes will help some by masking this lag when the amount of data being written and read is small. When a large amount of data is involved, these fixes will lag, as they still sit on top of RFS.
There is a second kind of lag due to memory shortage. This will hit you after the phone has been on for a while. This is similar to the paging seen on Windows, where the data has to be fetched from the hard disk. This type of lag is best fixed by installing a memory management application. The one I use is called Autokiller. Despite its name, it is not a task killer. What it does is make sure that a certain amount of RAM is always free. I use the strict profile, and my phone can go days without having to be rebooted.
troll. go get an aria then^^
save a galaxy s for a person who can truly appreciate it.
by accident I posted this in the development area, I didn't realize until after the fact, my bad.
So do you think I should put my phone back to 2.1 on my phone and apply voodoo? My phone lags quite a bit, it's bad.
I'll try out that app you suggested, thanks.
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crossover37 said:
by accident I posted this in the development area, I didn't realize until after the fact, my bad.
So do you think I should put my phone back to 2.1 on my phone and apply voodoo? My phone lags quite a bit, it's bad.
I'll try out that app you suggested, thanks.
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Look at the z4mod post in this forum. It works on 2.2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811902
Kaik541 said:
f) voodoo is not yet available for 2.2 because we don't have source code for 2.2 (again, if you knew how voodoo worked, you'd know why it wasn't instant)... we can hack it in with initramfs, and there are people working on it... but it isn't top priority
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There is a pre-release version out for froyo but I doubt it will provide more benefits than issues at this point.
cliffgardner said:
There is a pre-release version out for froyo but I doubt it will provide more benefits than issues at this point.
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the "pre-release" version you're talking about is for the i9000... and guess what, the i9000 has source code, we do not
I had the same issue when I installed the leaked 2.2.
I did a master reset, flashed back to stock, master reset again, flashed to 2.2 cognition. Now I don't know if the second master reset was necessary, but my phone is faster than ever. Very few problems, in fact... less problem than the 2.2 leak.
Just flash to cog 2.1.6/2.1.7. I have absolutely no lag at all. Though even at stock my phone wasnt crazy laggy like your claiming your phone is.
rajendra82 said:
There is a second kind of lag due to memory shortage. This will hit you after the phone has been on for a while. This is similar to the paging seen on Windows, where the data has to be fetched from the hard disk. This type of lag is best fixed by installing a memory management application. The one I use is called Autokiller. Despite its name, it is not a task killer. What it does is make sure that a certain amount of RAM is always free. I use the strict profile, and my phone can go days without having to be rebooted.
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Free RAM is wasted RAM.
And task killers, etc. are a great way to rape your battery life.
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Free RAM is wasted RAM.
And task killers, etc. are a great way to rape your battery life.
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Autokiller is NOT a task killer. It changes the memory management profile that defines when the apps are closed. This is a combination of the amount of free RAM and the type of app and the state it is in. I also disagree that free RAM is wasted RAM. If you are trying to open a webpage and the amount of RAM is low, the system has to decide to close something else to free the space you need. If the profile of what to close is inefficient, you will frequently run into low memory situations, when the system has to continue to close some apps to free up the memory, and you will see lag as the system works it out for you. What makes you think that the profile that Samsung chose to determine when to close an app is necessarily the best one?
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By installing the new ROM my phone works better and faster, no lagg.
But I understand that it can be even better...
I have deleted bloatware (using root explorer) and at this point have not reinstalled many of my apps (waiting for the next DC ROM release)
How can I find how much free space / memory I have left on my phone?
RAM, MB, etc?
I have read that if you monitor the use of space then it will be a fine tune machine.
I read about Ap2sd and that might help? Others say it doesnt beacuse it slows the response time when running an app.
Any words of wisdom?
Thanks
Any help will be appreciated.
I know, I know...DB comment but get an EVO. No substitute for raw horsepower.
4 Things.
1. Over Clock
2. JIT
3. Remove Sense (optional)
4. Class 6 SD card, not a cheap-o
should be in q/a or general forum. not here for future reference this forum is really for devs and ROM discussion only...not general questions like this.
with that said...
each person could probably give you their own ways of tinkering with their ROM and making it "faster".
You can download systraymonitor from the market, which gives you RAM/MEMORY/BATTERY, etc.
A2SD could be beneficial if you are installing more than 25+ apps, as it allows your system memory to combine with a partition of your SD card, thus keeping available memory higher, which leaves plenty of room for browser cache, app cache, etc.
Welcome to the wonderful world of ROMs for our Hero.
riggsandroid said:
should be in q/a or general forum. not here for future reference this forum is really for devs and ROM discussion only...not general questions like this.
with that said...
each person could probably give you their own ways of tinkering with their ROM and making it "faster".
You can download systraymonitor from the market, which gives you RAM/MEMORY/BATTERY, etc.
A2SD could be beneficial if you are installing more than 25+ apps, as it allows your system memory to combine with a partition of your SD card, thus keeping available memory higher, which leaves plenty of room for browser cache, app cache, etc.
Welcome to the wonderful world of ROMs for our Hero.
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Thank you for your input. Will check that app.
aisseleacim03 said:
By installing the new ROM my phone works better and faster, no lagg.
But I understand that it can be even better...
I have deleted bloatware (using root explorer) and at this point have not reinstalled many of my apps (waiting for the next DC ROM release)
How can I find how much free space / memory I have left on my phone?
RAM, MB, etc?
I have read that if you monitor the use of space then it will be a fine tune machine.
I read about Ap2sd and that might help? Others say it doesnt beacuse it slows the response time when running an app.
Any words of wisdom?
Thanks
Any help will be appreciated.
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ap2sd only helps really if you have a fast sd (ie aftermarket class 6 or 10) but ap2sd is mainly to free up space, you won't notice a preformance boost this way.... at least I haven't even with a class 6 card. It's just to allow you to install tons of apps.
android self manages it's ram but there are times where it doesn't do it very efficently, there's roms out there esp from flipz and darch that optimize the internal task killer/memory management to give a more fluid expereince.
I would reccomend agianst a task manager as I've had nothing but problems with it.
as far as making it faster look for roms that have JIT, BFS, and/or overclock. Mind you each one of these removes stability from a stock based rom, they're not perfect but they are pretty nice. And in my opinion the leeway you give is worth the benifit with that type of thing. But each one of those has a significant preformance boost advantage. BFS being what I reccognize as the biggest improvement in overall system preformance.
I would personally reccomend fresh toast, really research how to install it correctly but it's one of the best most stable I've personally tried. Next being my personal favorites darchdroid.
hope this helps.
Kcarpenter said:
4 Things.
1. Over Clock
2. JIT
3. Remove Sense (optional)
4. Class 6 SD card, not a cheap-o
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Excuse my ignorance...I have heard of all the option but number 1.
Over Clock? I dont know what does that mean.
Thanks for the info though.
aisseleacim03 said:
Excuse my ignorance...I have heard of all the option but number 1.
Over Clock? I dont know what does that mean.
Thanks for the info though.
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short: makes your processor go faster than it was designed to do within proven stable(ish)/safe(ish) limits
long: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overclocking
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1. Over Clock
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...at your own risk. My phone runs great without this. I don't think it's worth the risk of cooking my proc's bacon.
Grease Lightning yo!!!!
In all seriousness, if you wanna rev up your performance but at the expense of our already limited battery life, try out FreshToast 2.1 or if you want a clean trimmed vanilla feel try out DarchDroid and make sure you follow the directions for getting the OC app configured (OC Widget or SetCPU)
That'll definitely give you the max possible bang out of your phone. Buyer beware, these roms are not without their quirks, so please for the love of NY Cheesecake (oh hush, haven't eaten since 8am this morning heh) read through each of the respective threads to hunt down and possibly cure the kinks that plague your configuration.
Thread Moved to Q&A.
subcypher said:
...at your own risk. My phone runs great without this. I don't think it's worth the risk of cooking my proc's bacon.
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Ive had my phone overclocked to the max the last few days. Running smooth. I underclock while phone is sleeping
I made mine 3x faster by picking a rom with no sense, rm EVERY apk that I don't use ( friendstream, flickr, tweet, etc...everything except what I USE) and apps2sd. I run a buke naked pure hero, installed apps i DO want,and it never lags. I Only get 2.2 mflops
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Okay I understand that the official 2.2 will not be coming to the G1 due to the outdated hardware. But I also understand that a lot of the ROM dev's are trying to transport it to here.
My question is, When the dev's do release the 2.2 can we expect the same speed upgrade as the official 2.2 does? Froyo = 450% faster on g1?
Doubt it right?
It's possible they could get the speeds that high but your phone would eventually take a massive wear and tear from overclocking and constant swap usage.
Froyo won't be quite 450% faster, but it's definitely going to have some measurable level of speed improvement with 2.2 and a JIT enabled Over-clock Kernel.
That 450% number is misleading.
It is NOT 450% faster. SOME OPERATIONS are 450% faster.
The key word being SOME.
As for 2.2 being faster... the reason it is going to be faster is because of JIT, not because of overclocking/etc.
In other words, to do the same function, it needs to do ***LESS WORK***, and because it can do the SAME amount of work in the SAME TIME as 2.1, having to do LESS work will therefore take LESS TIME.
Kemekill Products said:
It's possible they could get the speeds that high but your phone would eventually take a massive wear and tear from overclocking and constant swap usage.
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Are you MAD?
Who said anything about overclocking and swap.
Speedup due to JIT!
JIT means that there is LESS WORK TO DO = LESS TIME to do it.
Swap usage? A well implemented JIT can actually use LESS MEMORY = still no swap needed. Who the heck wants to swap? It just slows you down!
rofl, have you seen the attempts to getting JIT working right in the pass 3 months. it's been constant failure. every rom that has JIT runs faster without it enabled. It's a nice dream.. (haha get it dream like the phones name... FUNNY)
Kemekill Products said:
rofl, have you seen the attempts to getting JIT working right in the pass 3 months. it's been constant failure. every rom that has JIT runs faster without it enabled. It's a nice dream.. (haha get it dream like the phones name... FUNNY)
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I'm pretty sure you need to stop answering questions until you read up on a few things. The speed improvement in Froyo is because JIT is officially supported in the build by the Android team at Google.
Some people already have Froyo "running" on the G1, but it's not useable as a phone. You can expect someone to perfect and port it just like people have done with Eclair.
DirectMatrix said:
I'm pretty sure you need to stop answering questions until you read up on a few things. The speed improvement in Froyo is because JIT is officially supported in the build by the Android team at Google.
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I'm pretty sure I watched the I/0 conference and know all about it. But my point still stands every dev on xda who has attempted to get JIT working with the g1 has failed. All it's done is bog down the system. So you kind sir need to stop talking when you think you've felt intelligent.
Kemekill Products said:
I'm pretty sure I watched the I/0 conference and know all about it. But my point still stands every dev on xda who has attempted to get JIT working with the g1 has failed. All it's done is bog down the system. So you kind sir need to stop talking when you think you've felt intelligent.
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You've missed the point. People were trying to wedge JIT into builds where it didn't belong, thus the problems. Froyo is built around JIT natively, so it just works.
Android 2.2 ("Froyo"), will be running on the G1 as soon as the Source Code drops.
With it being built around JIT natively, it will have noticeable speed improvements. I tested the SDK/N1 dump on my G1, and it was amazingly fast. One can only imagine how fast it is going to run once the source drops and it is actually built for the G1.
Right now, the Froyo release that is out for the G1 is working. It just has no external audio (IE: music, ringtones, notification sounds, etc). No BT, camera, wifi, etc; you know, the usual things that are broken whenever a new release comes out. Give it time, CR and enatefox will get a build done as soon as possible.
Hello people,
I just purchased a Samsung Galaxy S, and the overall user experience is very sluggish.
Is there anything I can do to have a freaking fast and smooth UI just like an iPhone 4 would have ?
I ran a lagfix (OCLF) that almost doubled my Quadrant scoring, but that seems to be the benchmark part of things. The user interface is still damn slow and buggy.
Any help will be appreciated,
Cheers
Depends on how far you want to go. (Ie, are you willing to void your warranty? )
You can start by installing alternative UIs, like launcherpro, or ADW..
Install increasingly warranty-voiding lagfixes, (actually once you root your phone, i think the warranty is void)
Flash a different kernel (check out android dev subforum)
Flash a different rom w/ all the above (I'm using Doc's froyo rom, it's pretty awesome)
nwsk said:
Depends on how far you want to go. (Ie, are you willing to void your warranty? )
You can start by installing alternative UIs, like launcherpro, or ADW..
Install increasingly warranty-voiding lagfixes, (actually once you root your phone, i think the warranty is void)
Flash a different kernel (check out android dev subforum)
Flash a different rom w/ all the above (I'm using Doc's froyo rom, it's pretty awesome)
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Hi there and thank you for taking the time to answer.
I don't really care voiding my warranty, all I want is a fast phone.
I just installed Launcher Pro, and entering/exiting apps is now much faster.
However, I still experience some lags from time to time. Its weird, I don't even know how to explain it, but the overall user experience is not as fast and smooth as it could be on an iPhone 4 or even on a Windows Phone 7.
So far, here is what I've done :
- Applied OCLF lag fix, which doubled my Quadrant benchmark score
- Installed Launcher Pro
Is there anything else I could do other than flashing a new ROM (Doc's Froyo ROM install procedure seems to be very time-consuming) ?
Cheers
Flash an optimised kernel? Preferably one that has lag fixes in it.. there are a bunch of them in the android dev forum. Remember to undo any existing lagfixes before flashing, or it might mess up..
Don't think doc's rom install thing is really time consuming.. though i guess it depends on how long your definition is took maybe 30 mins to do it, not including downloading time. (And most of that time was spent re-reading instructions to make sure I didn't mess up )
I use autokiller on aggressive.
Never use anything samsung made, like the widgets, the keyboard, the messaging app,the dialer.
I found vooodoo much quicker than oclf in real life but now im using darkies rom. Its ok, but i think stock fw with voodoo might have been faster.
Btw darkies rom is REALLY easy to flash, you might want to try that, just check the devs forum.
theophane said:
Hello people,
I just purchased a Samsung Galaxy S, and the overall user experience is very sluggish.
Is there anything I can do to have a freaking fast and smooth UI just like an iPhone 4 would have ?
I ran a lagfix (OCLF) that almost doubled my Quadrant scoring, but that seems to be the benchmark part of things. The user interface is still damn slow and buggy.
Any help will be appreciated,
Cheers
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Welcome to sgs world.
Oclf is an old way to speed up the sgs.
The new way is to flash a custom kernel and apply lagfix. Basically you converting the filesystem.
You can also in some kernel apply different tweaks.
Sent from GT-I9000 jpo. My own kernel for z4mod and with 342MB Ram
theophane said:
Hello people,
I just purchased a Samsung Galaxy S, and the overall user experience is very sluggish.
Is there anything I can do to have a freaking fast and smooth UI just like an iPhone 4 would have ?
I ran a lagfix (OCLF) that almost doubled my Quadrant scoring, but that seems to be the benchmark part of things. The user interface is still damn slow and buggy.
Any help will be appreciated,
Cheers
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If you don't want to stuff around and have a phone that works out of the box sell it.
Does this lag applies to all phones ???
I have mine updated to froyo 2.2 and Installed tons of apps and games and widgets, I cant seem to notice any lag.
Animal06 said:
If you don't want to stuff around and have a phone that works out of the box sell it.
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I'll be doing this in the very near future, but I want to fully test the device before I say it's crap
Coolman4now said:
Does this lag applies to all phones ???
I have mine updated to froyo 2.2 and Installed tons of apps and games and widgets, I cant seem to notice any lag.
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Two of my colleges have a Samsung Galaxy S, and I can confirm that laggy behavior on both of their devices.
Here is a video illustrating the problem :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB1b0UrX9e0
If you make a couple of Google queries, you'll see that the world wide web is full of reviews, topics and videos regarding this problem.
I bet 5 Euro that you're running Android 2.1 in the device.
Logseman said:
I bet 5 Euro that you're running Android 2.1 in the device.
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Cool, you know owe me a pint of San Miguel
Use cm beta if your willing to out up no GPS or Bluetooth.
Other than that is the most customisable and fastest rom for our phone
~Webstar1
theophane said:
Cool, you know owe me a pint of San Miguel
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I'll pay it gladly ^^ I've been running 2.1 and I can understand why people would want to get rid of it ASAP.
Still waiting for official SGS Froyo update here in India before doing fixes.
I had posted this on the Q&A forum and it was suggested I come here. Didn't want to seem completely inept, but alas, I am. Here is my questions from the original post:
I really need massive help. Obviously I am brand new to this forum and have absolutely NO idea what the jargon or codes mean in these threads. Overclocking? Rebooting into recovery? SU? Kernal version requirements? I am merely a car guy and will gladly assist in ANY and all car questions. This is what I would like to accomplish. Root the phone to delete the useless programs that are just taking up space. Namely, Amazon MP3, Facebook (don't even have an account), Goggles, Google Search, Latitude,Talk, Twitter, Voice Dialer and finally Voice Search. I figure I don't need many of these since when I do actually use most of those Voice type programs Vlingo is used. Am I wrong to delete so much? A ROM is basically the screen design layout and buttons correct? I am needing set by step (Barney style) instructions on how to accomplish what I would like to do. I currently have a Droid 1 with version 2.2.1; Build FRG83D; Kernel 2.6.32.9-g68eeef5 . If that makes any sense or helps in my quest great, if not please let me know what else is needed. I have Windows XP if that matters as well. So like I said, if you have car issues or just want a little more performance or gas mileage I can help. I'm partial to domestics, Chevy especially, but can definately assist with them all. Thanks in advance all!
I will answer the general questions and leave droid specific answers to other as i have a milestone (international version of droid).
First question:
Do you have any other reason to root besides deleting apps?
Are you running out of space?
Deleting apps will mostly let you reclaim space on your phone in order to install more applications. If you are not running out of space, this may be unnessary. This is especially true now that apps can be installed on SDCARDS. Space is now less valuable than it once was.
Another typical reason to root your phone is overclocking. This means running your phone at a higher speed than normal. This will help with games and general responsivness/snappiness of the phone. Potential side effect are higher heat and reduced lifespan of the phone. but if you are following advice here, you are most likely safe.
By the way, a ROM is a combination of operating system and applications. People customize a system image (programs, speed, themes, art, configurations) and distribue it as a ROM.
I hope this clears a few things up.
I am only asking because most people root their phones t
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I don't know what else is possible honestly to do after rooting other than deletion of the apps. My phone has at bet 60M or so of space when using task killer. I see the new phones have huge internal memory by comparison. I have moved every app over to my SD that I can. It does seem to move much more slowly than it did when I first got the phone back in April, maybe overclocking is a good idea? How much does it hurt your phone permanently. I'm used to holding a phone for two years at a time now. Thank you very much for the input. Is Milestone so far different that your methods won't work for me?
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I don't know what else is possible honestly to do after rooting other than deletion of the apps. My phone has at bet 60M or so of space when using task killer. I see the new phones have huge internal memory by comparison. I have moved every app over to my SD that I can. It does seem to move much more slowly than it did when I first got the phone back in April, maybe overclocking is a good idea? How much does it hurt your phone permanently. I'm used to holding a phone for two years at a time now. Thank you very much for the input. Is Milestone so far different that your methods won't work for me?
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Overclocking will make you phone feel like a new phone.
It is not VERY risky, but it most likely voids your warranty.
It is also not an all or nothinh deal. There are degrees of overclocking. For example, most phones in the droid/milestone series are set (factory setting) to around 550mhz. Many people set their phones all the way up to 1ghz (1000mhz). I don't.
I run mine at a max of 800. The phone runs cooler and the battery lasts longer.
I dont know how different the droid and milestone are. I really dont want to mislead you with bad info. You should break down your searches into bite sized pieces. Root first, then overclock.
I am certain that good guides are available on the site to root/overclock a droid.
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Came across a funny older article on a fruit based website about the nook color when it first came out. After reading it i couldnt help but chuckle.
This was the best part of it,
But unlike forthcoming Android tablets like the Samsung Galaxy Tab, this device is going to be locked down and will only be able to run a limited number of B&N-approved apps such as Pandora and Lonely Planet.
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lol
Its a good read for a laugh.
I know that my nook color countinues to amaze me with more and more functionality everyday.
Its amazing what xda devs can accomplish. Take something and make it do something it was never meant to do and do it better than its competition.
That article is an unfortunate example of what a lot of tech journalists are doing these days. Hastily research a new product, then clip together a bunch of other coverage and bang out an article. By demonstrating his technical incompetence, sure he's got egg on his face now after the fact, however he also represents a large (the majority) percentage of B&N's customer base. The average purchaser would says "rooting what now?".
Amazingly, the NC has proven wildly popular and B&N's top selling item EVER, so obviously even with the limitations the author describes it's trouncing the competition. For those of use who know about ADB and scripts/img files, hey it's even better. Bought one for myself, then for my Dad (50's, tech savvy still). I rooted it, installed xeam and some apps then wrapped it back up and bang, best Christmas present ever!)
I've had a book 3g and then the NC which i rooted. Bottom line it rocks!!!!
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I cannot wait for a fully functional froyo rom for the internal memory that will make this a true tablet
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sp1kez said:
I cannot wait for a fully functional froyo rom for the internal memory that will make this a true tablet
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Forgot Froyo. Gingerbread CM7. It's going to be B-E-A-UTIFUL
nicbennett said:
Forgot Froyo. Gingerbread CM7. It's going to be B-E-A-UTIFUL
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Name 5 things that Gingerbread does better than Froyo....
Anywho, I too look forward to a tablet-friendly custom ROM.. I still really like the status bar on the bottom of the screen, but the stupid B&N shortcut thing gets on my nerves when I'm typing.
khaytsus said:
Name 5 things that Gingerbread does better than Froyo....
Anywho, I too look forward to a tablet-friendly custom ROM.. I still really like the status bar on the bottom of the screen, but the stupid B&N shortcut thing gets on my nerves when I'm typing.
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You mean aside from the better Dalvik VM, better battery management, improved UI, improved hardware capabilities (improved camera handling, gyroscope, NFC), improved game API, improved audio API, new media (audio/video) support, and a new linux base kernel? I guess if you don't count those, you still have the new/updated core libraries, updated bluetooth stack, improved text selection, built-in VOIP, and of course, the better keyboard...
Seriously, i mean, really seriously, why would ANYONE have anything against getting the NEWEST OS? All our efforts should be on gingerbread, since it offers the most compared to Froyo. Its not like moving to GB has any shortcomings, so why NOT want it?
I just got my nook color last night - I've found BBuy that had it in stock about 50 miles and drove there - sure enough about 20 were on the shelve - forgot to mention I traveled actually from one state to another (about 50 miles) to get it right of the shelve ... so anyhow, I am happy with "locked" nook color has to offer - I am even more thrilled about rooting it soon and unlocking the full potential. NC here I come
Yeah, a lot of the reviews bemoaned its alleged "doesn't know what it is" status. I've rooted mine, OC'd it, isntalled dozens of apps and games. Yet I still use it primarily to read novels, and do some light web browsing. And for that, it's dead perfect.
In other words, even an unrooted NC is an outstanding gizmo. I mean that screen is just to die for.
I definitely love my Nook. People are always surprised when I tell them it was only $250. Froyo on teh emmc via dd ftw! It's much better than the stock OS.
rjsmith2007 said:
I definitely love my Nook. People are always surprised when I tell them it was only $250. Froyo on teh emmc via dd ftw! It's much better than the stock OS.
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IN regards to emmc Froyo - what about the lag? I guess it may just be my SD card, but every Froyo build i have tried, has been painfully laggy - not slow, but things like gmail can take 1-2 minutes to actually show the mail. The app drawer animations are also oddly slow. Does emmc really make Froyo more usable for you?
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IN regards to emmc Froyo - what about the lag? I guess it may just be my SD card, but every Froyo build i have tried, has been painfully laggy - not slow, but things like gmail can take 1-2 minutes to actually show the mail. The app drawer animations are also oddly slow. Does emmc really make Froyo more usable for you?
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Oh GOD yes. There is no lag on eMMC. Typing this comment to you on my Froyo'd NC right now
Divine_Madcat said:
You mean aside from the better Dalvik VM, better battery management, improved UI, improved hardware capabilities (improved camera handling, gyroscope, NFC), improved game API, improved audio API, new media (audio/video) support, and a new linux base kernel? I guess if you don't count those, you still have the new/updated core libraries, updated bluetooth stack, improved text selection, built-in VOIP, and of course, the better keyboard...
Seriously, i mean, really seriously, why would ANYONE have anything against getting the NEWEST OS? All our efforts should be on gingerbread, since it offers the most compared to Froyo. Its not like moving to GB has any shortcomings, so why NOT want it?
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No, I agree that Gingerbread has small incremental improvements, but nothing that'd cause me to say screw Froyo, wait for Gingerbread. Especially if Gingerbread on the NC is well off.
khaytsus said:
No, I agree that Gingerbread has small incremental improvements, but nothing that'd cause me to say screw Froyo, wait for Gingerbread. Especially if Gingerbread on the NC is well off.
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I guess what i am thinking - given that Gingerbread is already being worked on, and our Froyo build doesn't actually work that well, why not just move ALL the resources out there to GB, and the most recent right away. Why go incrementally?
Divine_Madcat said:
I guess what i am thinking - given that Gingerbread is already being worked on, and our Froyo build doesn't actually work that well, why not just move ALL the resources out there to GB, and the most recent right away. Why go incrementally?
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I'd agree with that.. If the effort is the same for both, go with Gingerbread. However so far we have Nookie Froyo which is "mostly" there and I haven't heard of Gingerbread on the NC at all.
Just to add how amazing this gadget is I'm typing this comment using SlideIT and it has taken mea fraction of what it used to.
Sent from my rooted Nook Color
khaytsus said:
I'd agree with that.. If the effort is the same for both, go with Gingerbread. However so far we have Nookie Froyo which is "mostly" there and I haven't heard of Gingerbread on the NC at all.
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WEll, there is a gingerbread branch that is being worked on here: https://github.com/fat-tire/android_device_bn_encore
And there is plenty of talk that CM7 is on its way (though, i admit that i still fall into the see it to believe it camp). http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/11127-nook-color/page__st__40
But regardless, the froyo build really isn't that usable - its laggy, market is like sludge, etc. I really think that the devs working on it, should take the froyo lessons, and focus totally on GB. Let froyo be the sandbox for others to learn on, and let GB be the first real OS upgrade for the NC.