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I am planning on buying a HTC G1, but after I read that there is only 192mb RAM I decided to wait.
I have a few questions:
1. Can you make a swapfile on the G1?
2. Would there be a big speed/stability difference with 192 and 256 RAM?
3. How does 2.0/2.1 run compared to 1.6?
I will be using this as a PDA, not a phone and will be doing lots of gaming and web browsing on it.
Thank you,
~moonscapex
Buy a Nexus......
I would, but I can't afford one
moonscapex said:
I would, but I can't afford one
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save up for one. Don't get a g1, it's already too outdated. save up and buy a good phone that'll last a while. By the time you have the money tucked away I'm sure you'll see phones even better than the nexus one.
Yes, I already have a high-end winmo PDA, so I am looking for a lower end Android phone.
I agree with others that say to get a different phone. I love my G1 to death, but there's no way I'd buy one today if I were in the market. It's just too limited.
That said, I'll try and answer your questions.
1. Yes, running swap is possible using a rooted phone and custom ROM. It's debated whether this actually helps any.
2. The 192 vs. 256 MB difference helps a great deal. There's just not a lot of memory left to run many apps and do much task switching on the newer iterations of the OS with only 192MB. The number of apps you can install is also limited by this number (unless you're running a rooted phone and installing apps to your SD card.)
3. On a G1, 2.0/2.1 is pretty slow. At this point I wouldn't use it as a daily use ROM.
The two functions you listed as your primary activities are the two things that the G1 does the worst. It's underpowered for a lot of games (not to mention the horrible battery life when you start playing games) and browsing the web can be a chore given the limited memory and CPU. It works great for basic things like email, maps/navigation, music, productivity apps, but it's pretty slow for other stuff.
OK, thank you. That is the kind of answer I was looking for. I will look into some other phones.
The G1 is ideal for what your looking for. Man people love to drift off don't they
Yeah they do...
Has anyone else tried Android 2.1 on their G1?
If you root it, in addition to the debatable swapping to the SD for more ram and cache, you can overclock the things. Probably a bit hard on your battery and might generate unacceptable heat, don't know. You might just get it up to 2/3's to 3/4th's the speed of a Nexus for the cost of a bigger battery. Maybe then you could run 2.1 effectively. Who knows.
I'd buy it used. They go for about $175 on ebay unlocked. If you screw it up you've not lost that much. You can resell your broken one on ebay for about $75
Regards, PK
Overall the G1 for me has just been fun to root and flash multiple roms. =P Some roms are moderately fast, but are limited to games as we have no video drivers
Thanks for the good answers. So the Open GL drivers are not available on the G1? And how easy is it to brick a G1. Ive flashed many roms on winmo with no problem.
EDIT: Yes I will overclock. Are the Vid drivers available on the Magic?
moonscapex said:
Thanks for the good answers. So the Open GL drivers are not available on the G1? And how easy is it to brick a G1. Ive flashed many roms on winmo with no problem.
EDIT: Yes I will overclock. Are the Vid drivers available on the Magic?
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Yeah they are
Personally
I preordered a G1... rooted it early in the beginnings of Haykuro and JF... and 16 months later I still say there isnt a replacement... I got a full upgrade and I still havent taken advantage... The N1 is nice, if you can live wo the hard keyboard... If you want a low end android, the G1 is a good starter phone...
I run both 2.1 and 1.6 roms.. The 1.6 roms are really fast, The 2.1 roms are worth having on your phone to show off... I can stream music on 3G from 8am to about 230-3pm at work on either so batt life is fine either way on a normal day...
I dont know what kind of gaming you do, but my old school emulators do the trick nicely run on any rom and with the hard keyboard controls are great... I use a ram hack that removes the 3d accelerator for another 8mb of usable ram, so I cant comment on 3d games...
Bricking a G1 is almost impossible now with all the good tutorials... the G1 is the easiest to root, hack, flash, customize... all that in my own eyes... Ive brought noobs down the rabbit hole and now they are cookin up roms and themes like crazy...
I on the other hand still patiently wait for a new bigger better stronger phone (with a hard keyboard) to replace my G1 and I know it will not be in the low end android bracket..
protomanez said:
Overall the G1 for me has just been fun to root and flash multiple roms. =P Some roms are moderately fast, but are limited to games as we have no video drivers
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My setiments exactly. Hate to say it but it's just fun to see or learn somthing new.
Good thread for Android noobes.
Regards, PK
So far I'm convinced about the G1, thanks everybody. When I found out that the keyboard on the magic would not work with a stylus, and only your fingers, it made it obvious for me.
PS: Can you disable the RAM hack without reflashing?
moonscapex said:
So far I'm convinced about the G1, thanks everybody. When I found out that the keyboard on the magic would not work with a stylus, and only your fingers, it made it obvious for me.
PS: Can you disable the RAM hack without reflashing?
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Not really. You must replace the kernel, so it's basically just as complicated as reflashing.
I'ts simple.
Flash the boot.img and reboot.
All gone.
(and vice versa)
you wont loose any data or anything.
By installing the new ROM my phone works better and faster, no lagg.
But I understand that it can be even better...
I have deleted bloatware (using root explorer) and at this point have not reinstalled many of my apps (waiting for the next DC ROM release)
How can I find how much free space / memory I have left on my phone?
RAM, MB, etc?
I have read that if you monitor the use of space then it will be a fine tune machine.
I read about Ap2sd and that might help? Others say it doesnt beacuse it slows the response time when running an app.
Any words of wisdom?
Thanks
Any help will be appreciated.
I know, I know...DB comment but get an EVO. No substitute for raw horsepower.
4 Things.
1. Over Clock
2. JIT
3. Remove Sense (optional)
4. Class 6 SD card, not a cheap-o
should be in q/a or general forum. not here for future reference this forum is really for devs and ROM discussion only...not general questions like this.
with that said...
each person could probably give you their own ways of tinkering with their ROM and making it "faster".
You can download systraymonitor from the market, which gives you RAM/MEMORY/BATTERY, etc.
A2SD could be beneficial if you are installing more than 25+ apps, as it allows your system memory to combine with a partition of your SD card, thus keeping available memory higher, which leaves plenty of room for browser cache, app cache, etc.
Welcome to the wonderful world of ROMs for our Hero.
riggsandroid said:
should be in q/a or general forum. not here for future reference this forum is really for devs and ROM discussion only...not general questions like this.
with that said...
each person could probably give you their own ways of tinkering with their ROM and making it "faster".
You can download systraymonitor from the market, which gives you RAM/MEMORY/BATTERY, etc.
A2SD could be beneficial if you are installing more than 25+ apps, as it allows your system memory to combine with a partition of your SD card, thus keeping available memory higher, which leaves plenty of room for browser cache, app cache, etc.
Welcome to the wonderful world of ROMs for our Hero.
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Thank you for your input. Will check that app.
aisseleacim03 said:
By installing the new ROM my phone works better and faster, no lagg.
But I understand that it can be even better...
I have deleted bloatware (using root explorer) and at this point have not reinstalled many of my apps (waiting for the next DC ROM release)
How can I find how much free space / memory I have left on my phone?
RAM, MB, etc?
I have read that if you monitor the use of space then it will be a fine tune machine.
I read about Ap2sd and that might help? Others say it doesnt beacuse it slows the response time when running an app.
Any words of wisdom?
Thanks
Any help will be appreciated.
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ap2sd only helps really if you have a fast sd (ie aftermarket class 6 or 10) but ap2sd is mainly to free up space, you won't notice a preformance boost this way.... at least I haven't even with a class 6 card. It's just to allow you to install tons of apps.
android self manages it's ram but there are times where it doesn't do it very efficently, there's roms out there esp from flipz and darch that optimize the internal task killer/memory management to give a more fluid expereince.
I would reccomend agianst a task manager as I've had nothing but problems with it.
as far as making it faster look for roms that have JIT, BFS, and/or overclock. Mind you each one of these removes stability from a stock based rom, they're not perfect but they are pretty nice. And in my opinion the leeway you give is worth the benifit with that type of thing. But each one of those has a significant preformance boost advantage. BFS being what I reccognize as the biggest improvement in overall system preformance.
I would personally reccomend fresh toast, really research how to install it correctly but it's one of the best most stable I've personally tried. Next being my personal favorites darchdroid.
hope this helps.
Kcarpenter said:
4 Things.
1. Over Clock
2. JIT
3. Remove Sense (optional)
4. Class 6 SD card, not a cheap-o
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Excuse my ignorance...I have heard of all the option but number 1.
Over Clock? I dont know what does that mean.
Thanks for the info though.
aisseleacim03 said:
Excuse my ignorance...I have heard of all the option but number 1.
Over Clock? I dont know what does that mean.
Thanks for the info though.
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short: makes your processor go faster than it was designed to do within proven stable(ish)/safe(ish) limits
long: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overclocking
Kcarpenter said:
1. Over Clock
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...at your own risk. My phone runs great without this. I don't think it's worth the risk of cooking my proc's bacon.
Grease Lightning yo!!!!
In all seriousness, if you wanna rev up your performance but at the expense of our already limited battery life, try out FreshToast 2.1 or if you want a clean trimmed vanilla feel try out DarchDroid and make sure you follow the directions for getting the OC app configured (OC Widget or SetCPU)
That'll definitely give you the max possible bang out of your phone. Buyer beware, these roms are not without their quirks, so please for the love of NY Cheesecake (oh hush, haven't eaten since 8am this morning heh) read through each of the respective threads to hunt down and possibly cure the kinks that plague your configuration.
Thread Moved to Q&A.
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...at your own risk. My phone runs great without this. I don't think it's worth the risk of cooking my proc's bacon.
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Ive had my phone overclocked to the max the last few days. Running smooth. I underclock while phone is sleeping
I made mine 3x faster by picking a rom with no sense, rm EVERY apk that I don't use ( friendstream, flickr, tweet, etc...everything except what I USE) and apps2sd. I run a buke naked pure hero, installed apps i DO want,and it never lags. I Only get 2.2 mflops
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I just ordered my Samsung Captivate and now I am just waiting...
Maybe I could pass the time learning about Android!?
Having only had a little expierience with my Friend's MotoBackflip running Doughnut and my current phone being Winmo 6.5, I wanted to know the best way to learn about Android before I recieve my phone.
What would be the best learning resource?
I have a feeling I am going to want to Root the phone which I don't completely know what that means but if it gets rid of the the Bloatware then I am just fine with it.
HTC has spoiled me so I have a feeling I am going to want to get rid of TouchWiz too but we'll see.
I have like a thousand questions but I am a pretty capable person so just point me in the right direction if you can!
as far as rooting i think you could take a look at the android dev forum , theres some info there about rooting and different roms available I believe
Don't use a task killer.
They are not needed. And there is no reason not to root. And it is pretty much risk free.
Sent from my iPhone with the bigger Gee Bees.
notasimpleway said:
Don't use a task killer.
They are not needed. And there is no reason not to root. And it is pretty much risk free.
Sent from my iPhone with the bigger Gee Bees.
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Weird, I thought a task killer would be essential. I've always wondered where those little programs go if you don't close them lol
Shival said:
Having only had a little expierience with my Friend's MotoBackflip running Doughnut and my current phone being Winmo 6.5
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Hmm, I'm in a bit of a similar situation (though I've owned an iPhone in-between owning WinMo and then Android).
First off, the best way to learn is to see whether devs had ported Android to your WinMo phone or not. If they did, use that to learn. If not, try reading an Android guidebook (e.g. T-Mobile G1 for Dummies) or simply using an available Android emulator. There's one at: http://tmobile.modeaondemand.com/htc/g1/
Lastly, there's a bit of a difference between Android's root and WinMo's HardSPL. The only purpose of HardSPL is basically to change ROMs...because WinMo pretty much allows you to do anything else you want. Android's rooting, on the other hand, doesn't just allow you to install ROMs, but it allows you to use a variety of programs which requires your phone to be rooted (e.g. ROM Manager), install certain tweaks, and so on.
As an analogy, Android's root is probably closer to iOS' jailbreaking than it is to WinMo's HardSPL. As with the iPhone's jailbreaking, rooting allows you access to a larger variety of apps, tweaks to change how your phone performs, and so on.
If you have any other questions, then basically the right direction to point you in is the Android phone forums around here. Read the questions others asked, see the answers, and learn. That's how I did it.
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Weird, I thought a task killer would be essential. I've always wondered where those little programs go if you don't close them lol
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Android is built on Linux. Linux does not handle resources the way Windows does. Basically, it closes programs when it is done on its own.
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Your def in the right place. This is my first android phone and from what I understand the captivate is one of thee r easier phones to do anything with. I've flashed this thing a bunch of times already and there hasn't ben any custom roms released for it yet. Check out the stickies in the dev forum. Everything is there. And there s no way to get rid of touch whiz yet. Launcher pro is pretty awesome though. Its free on the market
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Is LauncherPro basically another UI?
When I goto root my device, which or what is going to be the best way?
Should I do the Onclick root program thing? or is there an even better way?
This is sounding like it is going to be just as much fun as the first time I Flashed my HD =]
[Edit]
I just noticed the Re-done Captivate guide so that looks like its gonna solve a bunch of my questions! Sorry that I didn't notice it before I posted.
Thank-you everyone that posted!
-Further Questions
Am I going to want to root the phone as soon as I get it?
Would it be best to use the phone with my Ubuntu partition?
I have a feeling I am going to want launcherpro, should I cash out and get LauncherPro Plus?
Hello Everyone. I am a long time Android User, new to rooting.
Before I get too deep in this I had a general question....
I have a Droid 3 that I am finding to be slow compared to my stock Google Nexus One. I really enjoy the qwerty keyboard and don't want to go back to my Nexus, However the lag in the contacts autofill indexing and email autofill indexing is Killing Me.
I run my email, calendar, and contacts etc through the gmail/ google apps platform and REALLY want to get the speed I had with my Nexus One on my Droid3.
What would you recommend?
How can I speed this thing up and still have a very reliable phone?
I also need to be able to use the following features (which work now):
wifi hotspot
tethering
hdmi out
bluetooth
calendar
Thank you so much for any insight you can provide. I am really impressed with the knowledge base on this forum.
Much Appreciated.
I am by no means an expert in Android devices but can definitely tell you that the 'slow down' you are experiencing is due largely in part to the poor ROM/Skin that is built onto the phone by Motorola and Verizon.
I would recommend rooting and trying out one of the custom ROM's in the Android Development section.
I have an XT860 so there are no ROMs really available at this point but from my experience with my HTC Desire Z, there was a night and day difference in speed and usability of the phone after I rooted it and began using custom ROMS.
For the Droid 3, 'Steel Droid' seems to be a very popular ROM, but again I don't have any direct experience with it because its not compatible with the XT860 (Canadian GSM variant of the D3)
Hope that helped a bit...
i use steal droid its great. renaming your bloat to .bak will speed up your d3. if you do use steel droid just flash dlna back.
I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
its also for flashing roms in the form of .zips
Check out this thread in the development section, it is for Steel Droid specifically but in the first post, just after the changelog, he gives pretty good instructions on how to flash the ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278056
johnniekombat said:
I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
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Be like me my friend. Just start searching around the xda forums, on google, rootzwiki, etc. Start absorbing information. I started with a normal Droid 3, and within 3 or 4 days, I found out just about everything I needed to know. You are correct about bootstrap, and it also allows you to install system files, theme files, kernel files, etc.
I would recommend Liberty. It's mostly AOSP (Android Open Source Project) which means it's not bogged down by Motocrap. It flies, you can still have some blur elements and I have not experienced a single bug.
U need to root, install custom recovery, then I recommend installing a stock android rom from the android development section. Also try SetCPU to raise your processing power. But as said, the speed is mosly do to bloatware. You can also remove these without installing a rom, using root unistaller( must find of internet). Must be rooted though.
Please thank me if I helped.
Just my 2 cents, contrary to others I won't necessarily recommend flashing a CUSTOM Rom. But definitely update to the 5.6.890 to see an increase in battery life and performance, and root your phone so you can debloat.
I have seen no real improvement between custom ROMs besides the themes and user experience. however if you are satisfied with how your phone is running and have required apps you need to work, i'd just debloat the stock ROM yourself. it will be a lot faster with the bloatware frozen using an app like titanium backup. a lot of the custom ROMs end up having bugs, especially Liberty seemed to be causing trouble for some folks before the update. but basically all the speed improvements people are seeing is from the apps removed from running in the background that you don't need, so do that and youre good to go.
johnniekombat said:
I am reasonably intelligent person, confident with technology, but am finding it difficult to make sense of many of the posts because of the jargon.
Is there a cliff notes version on how to do this?
I rooted my phone with the 1 click root.
I have also installed Droid3 Bootstrapper (but I dont know what it does?)
I believe this helps me build a backup in case the ROM fails?
Where do I go from here?
Thank you!
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CHECK THIS OUT http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238472 THEN USE THIS http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-1192795.html TO DELETE THE REST THAT THE FIRST DOESNT COVER. I KNOW THE SECOND IS FOR A DIFFERENT PHONE BUT DONT WORRY IT IDENTICAL. I PERSONALLY DELETED THEM. AFTER I CLLEANED UP DAVLIK CACHE AND MY PHONE FLIES ON STOCK ROM.
THEN DO YOUR SELF A FAVOR AND MAKE YOUR CAMERA BETTER WITH THESE SIMPLE THINGS. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271927&page=2, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1326101
techno-update said:
U need to root, install custom recovery, then I recommend installing a stock android rom from the android development section. Also try SetCPU to raise your processing power. But as said, the speed is mosly do to bloatware. You can also remove these without installing a rom, using root unistaller( must find of internet). Must be rooted though.
Please thank me if I helped.
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What settings have you done in SetCPU??
I was having major issues with SetCPU when I originally set it up...
This was also when the phone just got rooted too though...
I thought we needed a modded kernel to do any CPU clocking things...?
Seirÿu said:
What settings have you done in SetCPU??
I was having major issues with SetCPU when I originally set it up...
This was also when the phone just got rooted too though...
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Set cpu will only allow you to underclock and change governor. I would only suggest switching the governor to performance, which beware will drain your battery faster, because its reported that other than stock governor and performance cause phone to act goofy.
Cannot overclock yet, we may not be ever be able to because **** bootloader locking.
Just Froze most of the bloat ware using the free Bloat Freezer in the market and am already experiencing improved performance!!! Thank you all so much!
Heyo N1 community!
So, after much deliberation, I dropped some cash on newegg for the first nexus experience...I also just needed a good backup phone.
That said, I'm probably going to be spending a lot more time here than in the Atrix forums as I'm REALLY liking the N1...and MIUI (...I'm kind of in love).
All this said, I had a couple questions about things I should be wary of...and just am not familiar with.
1. Blackrose
-From what I understand, due to the small ROM capacity, this is used to repartition the N1 to accommodate larger ROMs. I also see something about a custom HBOOT being involved. I don't really know what that is, though. Do most ROMs need this now? I was lucky enough to flash MIUI which apparently doesn't require blackrose. Granted, I don't know any of the implications of Blackrose. Is it reversible? Does it limit you in any way if you're on it?
2. Kernels
-Back on the Captivate, I feel like it was the roaring '50s with kernels. You could flash whichever kernel you wanted on whatever ROM you wanted...it was all about preference. With the Atrix, it's the opposite...doesn't help that there's basically only 1 stable kernel either. That said, I flashed the latest (non-ICS) MIUI and it looks like it comes with a slightly dated CM7 kernel- is this a big deal? Should I look to update it to something more recent/stable/etc? Or are kernels pretty specific as to ROM compatibility?
3. Radios
-Pretty much same situation with the kernels. I want to be careful because I know the N1 shipped for a couple different carriers, T-Mo and AT&T at the forefront. Now, I'm on AT&T, but the box my N1 came in is marked for Vodafone UK. As I understand it, Vodafone's freq's are the same as T-Mo's, right? Is there any difference between my "vodafone" N1 and one designed to work with T-Mo, AT&T, or any others?
4. Hardware issues/life expectancy/replacement options
-First and foremost, I'm still confused as to whether Nexus 1's are even still being manufactured. I heard somewhere that some UK carriers still sell them (obviously Google stopped doing it direct awhile ago). To me, it's the kinda thing where, in all honesty, I'd love to use the N1 as my EDC forever- the screen size is perfect for me, the Dev community is MASSIVE and very experienced, and the phone is simply iconic. That said, though, I'm wondering how long it'll be until things start to bite it and I have to look for a replacement...and if I'll even be able to find one. Alternatively, I've seen a lot of people say that HTC has been pretty forgiving about replacing busted power buttons and the like. Besides the power button, though, is there anything else I should be keeping an eye on?
Lastly, I want to thank all the Devs who've contributed. Poking around through the dev section gave me an overwhelming sense sense of options, and the conversation here seems a bit more mature than over in the Atrix forums ("WHEN WILL WE HAVE CM7/CM9?!" was almost every other thread...and the poor devs got TORN UP trying to contribute what they could).
Sorry if I blinded anybody with all the writing, but I appreciate any advice or input you can give me.
1. You don't need Blackrose for MIUI. Use A2SD and partition your SD card. How? Search. Help - Wiki link is in my signature.
2. You don't need to switch from default MIUI kernel, unless you want to overclock.
3. Doesn't matter, as long as you're on one of the Gingerbread radios. Any of the latest will be good enough. No difference in baseband builds between different N1 models.
4. You're going to eat a lot of pain with screen touch craziness, which is the most painful part of this phone. The second most painful part is sub-par GPU, but unless you game a lot, you won't notice it - MIUI is smooth. So I'm really in doubt you'll want to keep this phone for a long time. In any case, press the power button gently and closer to the inside of the phone, and avoid pressing it as much as you can (use ROMs with trackball wake and screen lock widget).
Jack_R1 said:
1. You don't need Blackrose for MIUI. Use A2SD and partition your SD card. How? Search. Help - Wiki link is in my signature.
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Thanks for the tip. It occurs to me that I jumped the gun and flashed a ROM before I should have- not that anything bad has happened. Just thinking I'll probably go round two here shortly once I learn all the ins and outs (like Apps2SD...and popping in an SD that bigger than the included 4GB one to make it worthwhile). Thanks for the tips bro.
Jack_R1 said:
2. You don't need to switch from default MIUI kernel, unless you want to overclock.
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Not worried about OCing. UVing might be nice...but I'm thinking unnecessary for battery life- First discharge gave me 1 day 12 hours after WHALE-HEAVY use...and even then I still had 20% left.
This is something I'm actually in awe regarding.
Jack_R1 said:
3. Doesn't matter, as long as you're on one of the Gingerbread radios. Any of the latest will be good enough. No difference in baseband builds between different N1 models.
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Awesome. Now, real quick- did MIUI include a GB radio upon flashing it? I haven't flashed one specifically yet...should I head over to the Kernel/Radio thread and pick one out? Also, just to clarify/double-check, you're saying that a T-Mo N1 = Vodafone UK N1 etc etc? Same hardware and everything? (Obviously excluding N1's designed for AT&T's freq's?)
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4. You're going to eat a lot of pain with screen touch craziness, which is the most painful part of this phone. The second most painful part is sub-par GPU, but unless you game a lot, you won't notice it - MIUI is smooth. So I'm really in doubt you'll want to keep this phone for a long time. In any case, press the power button gently and closer to the inside of the phone, and avoid pressing it as much as you can (use ROMs with trackball wake and screen lock widget).
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Ha! Yep, I've definitely gotten some odd touches from the screen even after my little time with it. I've found I am ALWAYS hitting the home button...or the area that REGISTERS as the home button...whenever I go to press the space bar when typing. Quite possible it's due to having only used Android phones w/ larger, 4" screens...so I'm used to "reaching down farther" for the space bar, so to speak. And about trackball/volume wake & screenlock widget- already on it, ha! Not only is it a lot more convenient, but I figured it's something I should get used to in light of the power button's frailty.
It occurs to me- how wiggly is the trackball supposed to be? When I got my phone and started playing with it, I noticed a slight amount of give before it'd click (to select). Is this normal? While it always returns to it's normal amount of...portruding (sp?)/portrusion, should there be NO give before it clicks? Thanks for the input.
Also...about the screen...are there any mods/hacks to make it more accurate/less glitchy? Fix multitouch snapping? Etc?
Lastly, I'd always rock the V6 supercharger script on my Atrix. Now that I'm on MIUI, do they have it baked in? If not, is it compatible? Does it make a difference?
Thanks for the info/input so far bro I really appreciate it.
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Awesome. Now, real quick- did MIUI include a GB radio upon flashing it? I haven't flashed one specifically yet...should I head over to the Kernel/Radio thread and pick one out? Also, just to clarify/double-check, you're saying that a T-Mo N1 = Vodafone UK N1 etc etc? Same hardware and everything? (Obviously excluding N1's designed for AT&T's freq's?)
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No rom should include a radio, and as a general rule you should always flash radios from fastboot to avoid any problems.
xyrovice said:
Also...about the screen...are there any mods/hacks to make it more accurate/less glitchy? Fix multitouch snapping? Etc?
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What can be done has already been done as far as tweaks.
evilkorn said:
No rom should include a radio, and as a general rule you should always flash radios from fastboot to avoid any problems.
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Hmm...gotcha. Just wondering (as I didn't mess w/ fastboot until the Atrix- all Captivate radios were just flashed in recovery), what problems could arise from non-fastboot flashes? And how likely is this? Thanks for the info btw.
Update:
Well so I quickly checked the Radio thread, specifically the newest one (from a Korean update?).
Read and read and read and read before doing anything...then went and checked my phone only to find out the baseband version in my setting>about phone matches that of the newest one: 5.12.00.08. Don't know what difference it makes, but I have a "U" halfway through instead of an "H." So, two possibilities: Either my phone shipped with it (Odd as it's a Korea update?), or it was included in the ROM. Either way, I haven't noticed any issues, and I figure I'll leave it be.
Thanks again for the info though fellas.
I know your questions probably have been answered but I'll give it a shot:
1 - Blackrose will repartition the N1's partitions regarding cache, data, and such. If you want MIUI or pretty much any Gingerbread ROM you most likely 99.9% don't need Blackrose or a custom partition layout. Only certain ICS ROMs require Blackrose. The custom HBOOT you are referring to is Blackrose and the custom partition sizes. There are no limits if you are on Blackrose, and you can always get rid of it just as easy as installing it. Getting rid of Blackrose HBOOT will also refer you back to the stock partition layouts, if you made any changes while on Blackrose.
2 - There are a rather great deal of kernels for the N1 out there. I can think of at least 5 main ones, such as Wilmonds, IR's, and many more. Most will work with any ROM, such as CM or MIUI. But as always, backup before you flash. As for need, you don't really need to flash a custom kernel yet it can help. Some kernels boast improving animations and performance while others try to boast battery saving. Just check out the comments of each kernel's thread for a true evaluation.
3 - As for radios, flashing is not really that important. Most N1's are on 5.08 version which is the latest release for the US; all be it that is is a year or so old. There is a newer 5.12 radio released in Korea but there is no need to flash/install it. Some say connection is better but there is no difference if you are in the US. No ROM requires a certain radio.
4 - I had my N1 for almost 2 years with absolutely no issue with any buttons. I do hear that some have issues with the power button however. I guess it depends how well you take care of your device. I have dropped my phone very rarely and I take pretty good care of it. No complaints here.
Hope this helped you. And welcome to the N1 community! Any other questions feel free to ask!
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I know your questions probably have been answered but I'll give it a shot:
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Hope this helped you. And welcome to the N1 community! Any other questions feel free to ask!
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Awesome info bro! Your explanation of Blackrose was especially concise, simple, and informative. Thanks for the kernel advice too! I appreciate it man!
Hey fellas, I hate to double post in the interest of bumping, but there are still a couple questions I'm still wondering about, and I'd rather bumprez than make another/2/3 different threads about each question.
The info you've given me so far has been AWESOME, and I'd appreciate any more input you might have.
Thanks in advance fellas.
What are the remaining questions?
Can't go wrong with Nexus One. Any weakness in memory can be dealt with through blackrose and a2sd. Hardware issues are minimal and even potential power switch problem is easily repaired.
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Jack_R1 said:
What are the remaining questions?
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So sorry- let me lay them out:
(And my bad for getting back to this so late- been really quite swamped with life!)
xyrovice said:
It occurs to me- how wiggly is the trackball supposed to be? When I got my phone and started playing with it, I noticed a slight amount of give before it'd click (to select). Is this normal? While it always returns to it's normal amount of...portruding (sp?)/portrusion, should there be NO give before it clicks? Thanks for the input.
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Lastly, I'd always rock the V6 supercharger script on my Atrix. Now that I'm on MIUI, do they have it baked in? If not, is it compatible? Does it make a difference?
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Also, I'm wondering about the AMOLED vs SLCD differences- something I don't think I've asked about yet.
Basically, regarding any and all facets of a screen- what are the differences between the AMOLED and the SLCD hardware?
And to reiterate- I'm talking about any kind of difference regarding anything, whether it's vibrancy, clarity, powerdraw, touch-sensitivity/accuracy...anything at all.
Lastly, regarding Blackrose:
So, Androidity3000 gave me a great cliff's notes on Blackrose, but I want to make sure- If I flash Blackrose (which is a custom HBOOT that reconfigures the partition sizes so as to avoid space-constraint issues?) can I just keep that all the time? Can certain ROMs NOT be flashed if I'm running Blackrose? Also, does Blackrose automatically decide the sizes of the new partitions, or do I have to configure the sizes myself? If so, are different configurations better, and why?
Thanks for all the good info and patience so far, breauxs. I appreciate it.
Trackball has some free movement, what you describe seems normal.
I've expressed my opinion on all kinds of "magical" scripts at some other point in time. Look at the free memory you have (which is probably >100MB at any given point in time), and think - do you need anything?
SLCD and AMOLED look a bit different. If you search the forum and Google, I bet you find enough examples and explanations. The question seems way too lazy.
Read the Blackrose thread to understand more, what it is and what it does. Also too lazy of a question.
I just picked up a N1 off ebay. It is in almost new condition got it for $155.00. I moving over from a mytouch 3g fender so the n1 is much better, i love it. This post helped me out alot. I've always wanted the n1 I've had my mytouch since it came out
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I just picked up a N1 off ebay. It is in almost new condition got it for $155.00. I moving over from a mytouch 3g fender so the n1 is much better, i love it. This post helped me out alot. I've always wanted the n1 I've had my mytouch since it came out
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Glad to hear it bro! I like thinking that there have gotta be others with the same questions/concerns as me, and I'm glad this thread was of some use!
...AND that, as it hopefully filled you in sufficiently, you didn't feel the need to make another thread!
Enjoy the phone man!