I have a Hero that I rooted awhile back and am using this old danger ROM. I'm currently looking for a ROM that has Froyo and Apps2SD because my main problem with my phone is that Im constantly running out of space. Also am looking for a wee bit better battery life because this thing just doesn't last long at all but the Apps2SD is my main priority.
I use CyanogenMod nightly with my Hero. I also use Darktremor Apps2SD for the Apps2SD portion. Works pretty well for me.
PawkChop said:
I have a Hero that I rooted awhile back and am using this old danger ROM. I'm currently looking for a ROM that has Froyo and Apps2SD because my main problem with my phone is that Im constantly running out of space. Also am looking for a wee bit better battery life because this thing just doesn't last long at all but the Apps2SD is my main priority.
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hi guys,
I would ask if there is a apk of apps2sd that I can install on any device rooted.
I rooted my wildfire with original ROM, but I not find a apps2sd.apk to install!
I need to install a cooked ROM with integrated apps2sd?
You don't need a cooked ROM with integrated apps2sd. Just follow the directions in tkirton's thread here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715116
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Hi,
I followed the CM6 thread quite closely, however I did not want to hijack that thread for my purposes.
It seems that the latest build of CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore. I used to flash Cyanogens Mods on my G1 / Dream since ages, and all of them supported Apps2SD. Maybe someone could elaborate a little on my questions to help me understand the latest developments:
1. Is there any particular reason why CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore (maybe performance or stability issues)?
2. Won't that mean that the G1 will immediately run out of memory, as the internal memory is that small (this was actually the reason why I decided to root my device)?
Thanks in advance for helping out. I just don't really get it and think I won't flash CM6 until there is a solution...
Best regards,
Becksman
Becksman said:
Hi,
I followed the CM6 thread quite closely, however I did not want to hijack that thread for my purposes.
It seems that the latest build of CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore. I used to flash Cyanogens Mods on my G1 / Dream since ages, and all of them supported Apps2SD. Maybe someone could elaborate a little on my questions to help me understand the latest developments:
1. Is there any particular reason why CM6 does not support Apps2SD anymore (maybe performance or stability issues)?
2. Won't that mean that the G1 will immediately run out of memory, as the internal memory is that small (this was actually the reason why I decided to root my device)?
Thanks in advance for helping out. I just don't really get it and think I won't flash CM6 until there is a solution...
Best regards,
Becksman
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Apps2SD will be there in 6.1......That's been communicated.....
Right now Firerat has build an script which does the JOB, I have a dream and using apps2sd with CM6....
Search the thread or XDA and you will get all the info....
FroYo, that CM6 is based on, has it's own implementation, often referred to as Apps2FAT. Cyanogen, and others, have stated that something resembling the CM4/5 Apps2Ext will be in the next release of CM.
Thanks for the replys so far. I was aware that an implementation of Apps2SD in CM6.1 is planned. I know as well that there is a workaround with firerat's patch.
I just tried to understand what's different with CM6 in comparison to CM5. I thought: hey, maybe with CM6 there's a good reason why apps2SD is not supported anymore. Maybe there's an alternative to apps2SD which works more reliable (not that it didn't with apps2SD on CM5). If so, I would have been willing to reinstall my apps and use the new system.
If there's no reason not to use apps2SD in CM6 then I'll consider updating. Either now, applying firerat's patch, or in some time when CM6.1 is out...
Best regards,
Becksman
it is Apps2SD, but it is saving the data to the FAT32 partition, rather than the EXT partition we are used to. one limitation I've discovered was by installing desktop widgets on the external. when the OS booted up, none of the widgets loaded.
I suspect the reason CM6.0 doesn't have Apps2Ext is threefold.
FroYo has something similar built-in. Therefore, users have a solution to the underlying problem w/out a custom CM solution. (problems w/ that implementation notwithstanding)
A polished solution would have to integrate with the FroYo solution in some way. This takes extra work.
Getting FroYo running solidly was a huge effort of it's own. TeamDouche expanded the number of supported devices by a huge number. They integrated the completely new build system Google released with FroYo. Adding another feature, especially in light of #1 and #2 above, would have delayed the release without real merit.
Thanks for the clarifications.
So I guess I'll stick with Apps2Ext. Though I guess I'll have to wait until CM6.1 is out, as I really don't have the time right now to keep myself busy playing with my phone and try to make everything work.
Thanks again for your effort - what a wonderful forum.
Regards,
Becksman
Ok, my friend has the hero for sprint and it keeps saying his phone storage space is getting low. Its making his phone run very slow and I said i'd help him fix it. Can you guys pleeeaaassseee help me?
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Is your friend running stock ROM?
Go to Settings > SD card and Storage and see what it says for free internal memory. I remember getting that message when mine was under 15 MB. I had too many apps on internal memory. I switched to a ROM that had apps2sd and now I have 100+ MB Free.
DroiDAddicT14 said:
Ok, my friend has the hero for sprint and it keeps saying his phone storage space is getting low. Its making his phone run very slow and I said i'd help him fix it. Can you guys pleeeaaassseee help me?
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Delete apps....... and phone storage doesn't make the phone slow
c00ller said:
Go to Settings > SD card and Storage and see what it says for free internal memory. I remember getting that message when mine was under 15 MB. I had too many apps on internal memory. I switched to a ROM that had apps2sd and now I have 100+ MB Free.
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Sweet! His phone isn't rooted yet but I'm good with knowing how to root phones. What ROM has that apps2sd app thou? I have a samsung fascinate soo I don't know much about the hero lol. And its a stock ROM rom btw
1sT GeAr, U MaD??
Almost all ROMs now have apps2sd integrated.
If your friend wants to stay "stock" with the Sense UI, anything by nfinitefx45 is quality. He just released a ROM based on the newest Sprint release this morning! Check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849024
If you want something completely new, froyo AOSP, check out CyanogenMod 6.1 RC1.. it's perfectly stable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755795
With both you'll get a lot more internal memory than stock ROM. If you still want A2SD, it's built in nfinitefx45's, and if you want it for CM6 then just run the easy froyo a2sdext in my signature. Just partition the SD card to ext2 and then upgrade from ext2 to ext3 before installing nfinitefx and it will work automatically. If using with CM6, partition anytime before running the script.
DroiDAddicT14 said:
Sweet! His phone isn't rooted yet but I'm good with knowing how to root phones. What ROM has that apps2sd app thou? I have a samsung fascinate soo I don't know much about the hero lol. And its a stock ROM rom btw
1sT GeAr, U MaD??
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c00ller said:
Almost all ROMs now have apps2sd integrated.
If your friend wants to stay "stock" with the Sense UI, anything by nfinitefx45 is quality. He just released a ROM based on the newest Sprint release this morning! Check it out
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849024
If you want something completely new, froyo AOSP, check out CyanogenMod 6.1 RC1.. it's perfectly stable.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=755795
With both you'll get a lot more internal memory than stock ROM. If you still want A2SD, it's built in nfinitefx45's, and if you want it for CM6 then just run the easy froyo a2sdext in my signature. Just partition the SD card to ext2 and then upgrade from ext2 to ext3 before installing nfinitefx and it will work automatically. If using with CM6, partition anytime before running the script.
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Exactly right, or for no sense but more speed, try CM 6.1.0
Or try AOSP!
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westicle said:
Or try AOSP!
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That works too
low memory
Low memory can slow down the phone... lag the hell out of it if there is no room for "working" memory. You won't be able to view photos or listen to musice if you have too much on your phone. Been there done that flashed on cm6 no problems since.
my wifes hero cdma is out of enternal memory. want to no if i root her phone can you do apps 2 sd and how? i have my hero rooted and running duelboot with sense hero v8.5 running off phone and cm running off sd card. so i can flash roms. but she wants to keep her rom but be able to use apps 2 sd. thanks for any help on this. i cant find any good info searching for it
oostah said:
my wifes hero cdma is out of enternal memory. want to no if i root her phone can you do apps 2 sd and how? i have my hero rooted and running duelboot with sense hero v8.5 running off phone and cm running off sd card. so i can flash roms. but she wants to keep her rom but be able to use apps 2 sd. thanks for any help on this. i cant find any good info searching for it
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According to the Darktremors thread, you can't run A2SD on Original Stock Roms:
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715116)
NOTE: ROMS THAT ARE ORM (ORIGINAL ROM FROM MANUFACTURER...ALSO KNOWN AS STOCK ROMS) WILL NOT RUN ANY VERSION OF APPS2SD EXCEPT FROYO.
The code to launch Apps2SD is not present in the init.rc. The only way Apps2SD will work with a Stock ROM is if the init.rc has been modified with the commands to run Apps2SD.
MrCoolHand said:
According to the Darktremors thread, you can't run A2SD on Original Stock Roms:
(http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715116)
NOTE: ROMS THAT ARE ORM (ORIGINAL ROM FROM MANUFACTURER...ALSO KNOWN AS STOCK ROMS) WILL NOT RUN ANY VERSION OF APPS2SD EXCEPT FROYO.
The code to launch Apps2SD is not present in the init.rc. The only way Apps2SD will work with a Stock ROM is if the init.rc has been modified with the commands to run Apps2SD.
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sort of correct, but not really,
@ oostah:
here is a SPRINT rom rooted running APPS2SD among other various tweaks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849024
hope this helps your wife, enjoy.
il Duce said:
sort of correct, but not really,
@ oostah:
here is a SPRINT rom rooted running APPS2SD among other various tweaks:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=849024
hope this helps your wife, enjoy.
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thanks ill give it a try.
Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request
gottijr said:
Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request
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Are you using setcpu to overlock your phone? If you're running a cyanogen rom or cyanogen based rom the overclock kernel is included, you just need setcpu from the market, or you can get it for free here on xda. It will allow you to overclock. If you are already overclocking, and you need a 2.1+ rom, I suppose you could try SuperE or SuperFly, they are fairly fast.
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gottijr said:
Hi everyone.
I'm sort of a beginner in this but still already flash some phones (g2, gravity, cliq, ...)
The hardest part for me now is to update this G1 that I have. It's a 32b devices
I've rooted, installed a new radio, dangerspl, spl-signed everything was a little bit confusing there for a while.
I've got Cyanogenmod 6 running on it. But I find it slow not so "stable" (it's working just feels very lagy with some fc). I'm guessing there's something missing.
What do you guys recommend for me to do so I can get a faster, updated rom on that phone?
Need some with at least android 2.1 on it
what partitions on sdcard? ext2 or ext3? pls advice
& have some patience with my request
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Personally I'd steer clear of Cyan roms until your more comfortable with setting things up, personally I don't use cyans but thats my choice.
I'd go with either EZterry's asop or the new enom 'official' that is out and has a few more configurable options. All the fun of the fair without the bloatware cm roms have and will ease you into the world of flashing
Relevant post, Gottijr, and thanks for responders. I got a G1 (with DMD64, 1.6 official tmob US latest upgrade) from fleabay for my daughter recently. I'm an experienced Winmo ROM modder/uploader/tweaker for years, but after many many hours of reading over the last few days I'm still a bit confused about what's really appropriate for this phone.
I've rooted so far, but can't seem to get a modified recovery image working ( likely due to dmd64 build?). Mainly curious what I should strive for in that I want primarily stability and app to SD since the internal memory is so limited. Not sure the Cyanogen mod is the right choice since I don't want daily use to require any tweaking. What would the experts recommend?
I don't want to hijack the thread here, but seems like a similar predicament.
Wipe?
With the newer CyanogenMod stuff I have found that wiping and reflashing the same ROM in recovery seems to help substantially on the FCs and lagginess.
I'm not sure why the full wipe / reflash works, but I suppose it has something to do with the inability to do a complete wipe. I haven't tried the new uber wipe that just came out, but I would be curious to see if that had better results as a starting point for a ROM install.
Also, I found I was happier on CyanogenMod with LauncherPlus over the included ADW Launcher. Though that was on the beta of 6.1 and I know the 6.1 stable has a newer version of ADW which might have addressed some of its annoyances.
I recommend setting up Titanium Backup for apps or using Droid Explorer to pull a backup of your ideal application environment. This will make swapping out ROMs quick for testing out what works for you.
mn3kgtvr4 said:
Relevant post, Gottijr, and thanks for responders. I got a G1 (with DMD64, 1.6 official tmob US latest upgrade) from fleabay for my daughter recently. I'm an experienced Winmo ROM modder/uploader/tweaker for years, but after many many hours of reading over the last few days I'm still a bit confused about what's really appropriate for this phone.
I've rooted so far, but can't seem to get a modified recovery image working ( likely due to dmd64 build?). Mainly curious what I should strive for in that I want primarily stability and app to SD since the internal memory is so limited. Not sure the Cyanogen mod is the right choice since I don't want daily use to require any tweaking. What would the experts recommend?
I don't want to hijack the thread here, but seems like a similar predicament.
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For speed and stability its difficult to beat the SuperD 1.11 rom ....essentially a donut (1.6) rom stripped and then filled with 2.1 (eclair) goodness. Sweet.
My girlfriend's old flip phone broke, so I set her up on my old G1 with cyanogen 4.
She likes it but it is android 1.6 so a lot of apps don't work.
I see a lot of roms talking about flashing radios and such and am lost (I am spoiled by safestrap on my D4).
Was looking for a good gingerbread or later rom that will function (calls,wifi,gps,bt,audio,camera,etc) and a detailed how to on flashing the rom and any required radios/kernals/etc. I tried cyanogen 6.1, but it kept rebooting.
Thanks in advance.
EzGingerbread is very stable and eeks just about every last drop of speed the old G1 is capable of providing. The opening post of that thread has pretty extensive instructions.
He also provides links to older versions of apps that work well. Newer versions of some apps like Maps are just too bloated to run on the G1.
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My girlfriend's old flip phone broke, so I set her up on my old G1 with cyanogen 4.
She likes it but it is android 1.6 so a lot of apps don't work.
I see a lot of roms talking about flashing radios and such and am lost (I am spoiled by safestrap on my D4).
Was looking for a good gingerbread or later rom that will function (calls,wifi,gps,bt,audio,camera,etc) and a detailed how to on flashing the rom and any required radios/kernals/etc. I tried cyanogen 6.1, but it kept rebooting.
Thanks in advance.
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Check out Royalknight6190s ROM Bible, and my recently posted G1 Oracle. I would recommend Feoyo by Laszlo, or any of the variants. Gingerbread is not a great idea on the G1. Take a look in the G1 XDA wiki for guides. Google's a good resource as well.
Do your own research if you want a ROM that lives up to your OWN personal needs. Which will probably be speed on a G1. So go for something old and lightweight.
Also, this is a development forum this thread should be in Q&A.
I agree that Froyo by Lazlo was a good build, but you will need to flash a different kernel over it - either Farmatito's or EZTerry's. There's a known battery drain bug with the stock kernel.
thanks for the input guys, I finally hunted down the old hboot and danger spl files, as well as a tiny gapps and have cm6.1 on it.
I might have to add in the EZTERRY 14mb hack, but that will have to come later.