[Q] difference between ATK and leaked 2.2 task killer? - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

hello. ive been using DG'S AOSP 2.2 beta 3 for a while and just wanted to know the difference between the task killer on 2.2 and from advance task killer which i used when i was on 2.1 eclair. seems when i open 2.2 task killer it doesnt show as much opened apps than ATK. and wheni would kill selected apps on ATK it lags on showing how much ram i have left. i dl ATK and ATK 2.2 and still kinda lags. should i use both? should i use one or the other? any help is greatly appreciated!

Well atk is a task killer and the other is a manager. Atk kills auto and the other you can choose what and when to kill. If you want less lag uninstall atk install autokiller or minfree and change the android memory killer settings to something higher
Yay no more fc

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Best Killer App

Hi guys,
There are numerous apps available for killing running apps.
There are Advanced Task Manager, Advanced Task Killer, Taskiller etc.
I am currently using the Advanced Task Manager as I see the most apps available for me to "kill" or "exclude". I tried Taskiller as recommended by a friend but I only saw a short list for me to manage and I figures maybe this app doesnt show all of the available-to-kill running apps?
Any comments on which one do you think is the best app for doing such task? And why? Coz I am not sure if I am using the best.
same question here.
I was running advanced task killer, and now I am trying TaskPanel. What are the opinions? (I know some of the opinions are that we don't need either one, but some apps are stubborn.)
I've been using Advanced Task Killer since I got my Hero and I've not had any problems with it. It's very rare I need to kill an app anyway Peep is the only one I can think of as I wanted to stop using it.
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I bought Advanced Task Killer and I have tried Taskiller before but I LOVE the auto-kill function that 'ATK' has
but there is one thing that make me wonder why Advanced task Managers always have the most apps to choose to kill than others. But what are the goods of other killer app if there are many apps they cannot kill?

task killers?

can anyone recommend a good task killer? ive tried atk on 2.2 but its very sluggish. i dl task panel x and it doesnt update frequently lol. i have autokiller memory but not sure if i am using it right lol. so if anyone is using a task killer, what r u using and r u getting good results? thanks in advance!
Do not use autokiller. I can't remember what problem it causes but it does indeed cause a problem on all galaxy phones. Or at laast my fascinate
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You shouldn't need one from all I've read about it.
but I use system panel to kill an app here and there.
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Don't bother using a task killer. I used Advance Task Killer for the last two weeks but it probably hampered things more than it helped. Your phone will NOT slow down to a crawl. Most custom ROMs use good minfree settings that'll keep your phone snappy.
Just uninstall your task killer, or if you want to use it, turn off autostart, turn off autokill, and only use it for pesky apps that won't die.
toawkanavngthded said:
can anyone recommend a good task killer? ive tried atk on 2.2 but its very sluggish. i dl task panel x and it doesnt update frequently lol. i have autokiller memory but not sure if i am using it right lol. so if anyone is using a task killer, what r u using and r u getting good results? thanks in advance!
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I was using ATK and could not verify any benefit. I read the following article and gained some more understanding. I have been running without a Task Killer since and I see no loss in performance or battery life. I could say I have less FCs and more reliability with syncing email.
Read This: http://lifehacker.com/5650894/android-task-killers-explained-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
i have been getting random shutdown these few days (started like 3 days ago), about 1 shutdown per day. i'm not sure if it' the stock task manager, dolphin browser beta 4.0, or widget locker 1.2.7 causing it. i already removed stock task manager and downgraded widget locker to 1.2.4 to see what happens.
Task killers aren't generally needed on android. If its battery life you want then for one try not to compulsively look at your phone preventing the cpu from idling and screen from turning off. Get juice defender. It turns off data unless it is needed. Most apps don't use resorces when the phone is asleep unless they are designed to, like file sharing programs or apps that sync data in the background but there are also bad apps. In froyo Use the built in task manager (long prsss on home) to see what's running. If you havent used something in a while and don't need the process active then close it.
If it is performance you want then no task manager will help. You need to alter the minfree setting which manages memory and how apps use it. I use the one click lag fix app to do that. Other apps I used caused problems. I set the minfree to moderate. Its more agressive than stock but doesn't kill processes you might want running. Anything more agressive than that kills allshare while im streaming movies but there is a performance increase when set to optimal or strict however it is slight.
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How to multitasking as Much as possible?

Hi everyone~
I'm the sort of person who loves multitasking, opposite to those people who use task killers every moment
I always find that my Nexus One has more than 200MB of free memory, and internal task killer keeps killing background applications, actually I've never seen my free memory drops below 180MB.
So i was trying to figure out how to let internal task killer Not to kill background apps, and discovered "Autokiller" which can tweak internal task killer parameters.
but unfortunately, even I set every parameter to 0, still internal task killer kills as much as before my apps still are killed and I constantly get over 180MB of free memory.
so could anyone please suggest how to *really* stop internal task killer from killing apps?
Thanks a lot
You can't do anything about it. One of the changes in Froyo was to autokill processes with OOM_ADJ=12 rather than 16 it used to be in Eclair - which essentially leaves only background processes spawned by services, and no "empty" processes anymore.
Autokiller is completely useless in Froyo, and doesn't do a thing - because of the reason I wrote above.
And you can't do anything to keep those processes, except rewriting the OOM manager in the OS code.
Ask this guy, he rolls like a boss.
houzuoguo said:
Hi everyone~
I'm the sort of person who loves multitasking, opposite to those people who use task killers every moment
I always find that my Nexus One has more than 200MB of free memory, and internal task killer keeps killing background applications, actually I've never seen my free memory drops below 180MB.
So i was trying to figure out how to let internal task killer Not to kill background apps, and discovered "Autokiller" which can tweak internal task killer parameters.
but unfortunately, even I set every parameter to 0, still internal task killer kills as much as before my apps still are killed and I constantly get over 180MB of free memory.
so could anyone please suggest how to *really* stop internal task killer from killing apps?
Thanks a lot
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So what's the actual problem here?
thanks everyone
ok so probably I have to modify OOM_ADJ value in order to not let internal task killer to kill my background applications.
I applogize for my poor English, my question was, how to stop internal task killer from killing background applications.
You can't modify it, it's hard-coded in the OS (kernel?). You need to recompile the OS for that.
thanks a lot guys

[Q] Tab seems to be lagging

Hi,
i've started to noticed that my Tab P1000 is lagging quite badly. Open and closing of any apps takes about 1 second or so. i'm not sure what's wrong and don't know when it started. i then explore into memory usage and memory booster app is telling me that free memory is only about 34%. The number of tasks running in the background is also quite huge (24 at a time).
Is the memory usage normal? i've tried to delete any un-used apps but it doesn't seem to help. Are there any ways i can improve the memory and the overall performance?
i'm running custom rom (overcome) kernal 2.6.35.7 overcome v3.3.1.
Any advice will be appreciated.
I had this, I cleared all of the app cache files and seems a lot better now.
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you can try to wipe app cache, then use autoruns to disable all rubbish. and use overclock
I use taskxp from market, not just because its a task killer, but because it allows you to switch easily between open tasks, very helpful if you are running more tasks than holding home key menu will show (which is only 8 last accessed tasks)... anyway as a task killer it is very stable and customizable, I never have a lag or a unwanted task running in background (most games I notice will run in background even when you don't open them and I just kill them and free up my memory
SGT+CM7=AWESOMENESS!!!
This Taskxp thingy seems very handy! Thanks
Ernesto de Bernardis
N900 - Galaxy Tab 7"
Make sure to turn off the swipe to launch option, it annoys the hell outta me
SGT+CM7=AWESOMENESS!!!

How's your experience with app background closing on ICS?

Hi. I tried a few of ICS roms available for i9000 out there, and all of them are pretty fast, much better than I expected. The only issue I have with any ICS rom I've recently tried is that they close apps in background quite often. For example, I might open my Opera Mobile, switch to SMS app, send a message, and then when I return Opera has to start over and load all the pages again. Does it happen to You as well? As a comparison, I tested it with a 2.3.4 MIUI rom I had as a Nandroid backup, and it's much better - most apps stay open in background for a longer time.
Is it possible that ICS has that bigger of a memory footprint over Gingerbread? What are your opinions on that? Experienced similar issues? Any workarounds?
warnec said:
Hi. I tried a few of ICS roms available for i9000 out there, and all of them are pretty fast, much better than I expected. The only issue I have with any ICS rom I've recently tried is that they close apps in background quite often. For example, I might open my Opera Mobile, switch to SMS app, send a message, and then when I return Opera has to start over and load all the pages again. Does it happen to You as well? As a comparison, I tested it with a 2.3.4 MIUI rom I had as a Nandroid backup, and it's much better - most apps stay open in background for a longer time.
Is it possible that ICS has that bigger of a memory footprint over Gingerbread? What are your opinions on that? Experienced similar issues? Any workarounds?
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Try using less widgets. Don't use apps like Facebook. Check push notification services of some apps.
Also, i seem to remember that Opera Mobile tends to "forget" loaded pages very quickly, if you don't come back to the app quite fast...
You can also try and check under settings > developer options > see if you have checked "don't keep activities" and under "background process limit" choose "standard limit"
Since I'm only getting advice, I take it I'm the only one having this problem? Strange. The only widget I have on my desktop is the stock ICS analog clock widget, and there is no such thing as "Developer options" in my Opera Mobile.
Right now I'm using AOKP rom b27, there is an option called "Free memory - Amount of RAM the minfree taskkiller will keep". I tried to change it to max possible - 100MB, didn't change anything.
Is you are using ICS roms, you never had such issues? Which roms do you use?
PS Could a different kernel make it better?
Opera uses alot of memory and the phones memory is very limited. Doesn't matter the ROM it will often get closed when you leave it to do other things.
BTW increasing the memory the OS keeps free makes it worse, how do you think it frees memory? By closing things. You actually want to decrease the memory it keeps free to try and help with this. The downside is that the phone will probably lag more and I have found it doesn't help much.
I'll try to use the stock browser. As to that task manager setting:
The description says:"Amount of RAM the taskkiller will keep", so I have no idea if it means keeping some RAM available at all times or is it the amount of RAM that can't be cleared.
warnec said:
I'll try to use the stock browser. As to that task manager setting:
The description says:"Amount of RAM the taskkiller will keep", so I have no idea if it means keeping some RAM available at all times or is it the amount of RAM that can't be cleared.
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It is never the amount of RAM that can not be cleared it is the amount of RAM to keep free. ie if you set 64MB Ram to be kept free Taskkiller will keep that amount of memory free by killing the oldest non active task/process

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