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I no longer have AT&T 3G network coverage ..

I have a Rogers G1 that I use with AT&T's service. When I first received the phone (yesterday), AT&T's 3G service was working fine and it even had an option to enable|disable the 3G signal in the settings. However, after I decided to flash the SPL, radio, etc. (after everything, I've decided to stick with Cyanogen 4.2.14.1), my 3G signal no longer works, as I only have EDGE coverage AND there is no setting in the phone that even mentions HSDPA or 3G enabling. I know it's not the ROM that did this, since I was using the Expresso, MLIGN's 3.3 and another ROM. So basically.. How do I get my 3G signal back??? Thanks in advance!
My current G1 info:
DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA21000)
CPLD-4
RADIO-3.22.26.17
Apr 20 2009, 15:30:43

wrong section dude
G1 Android Development
Good luck getting your 3g back though!
Try here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=507

iMod_954 said:
I have a Rogers G1 that I use with AT&T's service. When I first received the phone (yesterday), AT&T's 3G service was working fine and it even had an option to enable|disable the 3G signal in the settings. However, after I decided to flash the SPL, radio, etc. (after everything, I've decided to stick with Cyanogen 4.2.14.1), my 3G signal no longer works, as I only have EDGE coverage AND there is no setting in the phone that even mentions HSDPA or 3G enabling. I know it's not the ROM that did this, since I was using the Expresso, MLIGN's 3.3 and another ROM. So basically.. How do I get my 3G signal back??? Thanks in advance!
My current G1 info:
DREAM PVT 32B ENG S-OFF
HBOOT-1.33.2005 (DREA21000)
CPLD-4
RADIO-3.22.26.17
Apr 20 2009, 15:30:43
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isnt that the rogers radio ?
btw wrong section there is a questions and answers section for help. just so you know. Welcome to xda btw..
now on with other member flames.

Not sure how to help you. Wrong forum by the way. I used my Rogers Dream for AT&T 3G but I have noticed several things about it.
1. The build quality seems much lower than my ADP1. I put my ADP1 that I got in Dec. '08 thru hell and it is battered but not a single thing is wrong with it function wise. My Rogers Dream I had for 4 months and it already bit the dust. I took care of it like a baby, yet the bluetooth has failed, as has the microsd slot. I took it apart and swapped the sd board into my ADP1 and it worked fine, yet it fails in my Rogers one still yet. Damn you Rogers.
2. It always seems to show a low signal strength (~-100 dBm where my ADP1 gets ~-80 on EDGE and my Samsung flip-phone gets ~-75 on 3G all in one area)
I would recommend you try a reflash.

Geniusdog254 said:
Not sure how to help you. Wrong forum by the way. I used my Rogers Dream for AT&T 3G but I have noticed several things about it.
1. The build quality seems much lower than my ADP1. I put my ADP1 that I got in Dec. '08 thru hell and it is battered but not a single thing is wrong with it function wise. My Rogers Dream I had for 4 months and it already bit the dust. I took care of it like a baby, yet the bluetooth has failed, as has the microsd slot. I took it apart and swapped the sd board into my ADP1 and it worked fine, yet it fails in my Rogers one still yet. Damn you Rogers.
2. It always seems to show a low signal strength (~-100 dBm where my ADP1 gets ~-80 on EDGE and my Samsung flip-phone gets ~-75 on 3G all in one area)
I would recommend you try a reflash.
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Yes, everyone keeps telling me the wrong forum. When I posted another question on another forum, NO ONE answered at all. Here, I get answers in 3 mins. However, I didn't mean to post it here (I will re-post this thread in the proper section). Thanks for your info! Except, I don't understand what you mean by re-flash.

iMod_954 said:
Yes, everyone keeps telling me the wrong forum. When I posted another question on another forum, NO ONE answered at all. Here, I get answers in 3 mins. However, I didn't mean to post it here (I will re-post this thread in the proper section). Thanks for your info! Except, I don't understand what you mean by re-flash.
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I feel your pain on that one. It happens but you'll get an answer, hopefully.

iMod_954 said:
Yes, everyone keeps telling me the wrong forum. When I posted another question on another forum, NO ONE answered at all. Here, I get answers in 3 mins. However, I didn't mean to post it here (I will re-post this thread in the proper section). Thanks for your info! Except, I don't understand what you mean by re-flash.
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I wasn't trying to be hateful or snarky. I was just stating that it was, unlike some people who just post "wrong forum jackass" & crap like that I actually tried to contribute something
And by reflash, I mean to try to reinstall another ROM. It could just be a temporary problem that reinstalling Cyanogen's ROM or any other ROM may fix.

Geniusdog254 said:
I wasn't trying to be hateful or snarky. I was just stating that it was, unlike some people who just post "wrong forum jackass" & crap like that I actually tried to contribute something
And by reflash, I mean to try to reinstall another ROM. It could just be a temporary problem that reinstalling Cyanogen's ROM or any other ROM may fix.
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Oh.. I know you weren't being "hateful or snarky". I was just saying what everyone else has told me. I hope I didn't come off as "hateful or snarky" either.
If that's what re-flashing is then I've done that plenty of times. Most of the time, I would wipe everything (except the last two settings - Battery & Rotation). I've flashed MLIGN's v3.3, Espresso ROM, some other random v2.3 ROM by the same creator as the Espresso and now, CM's latest (which is what I'm at now - Most stable and it's the most smoothest ROM I've used so far).

its a network issue i doubt anyone here could help at all

Heres your problem..
A g1 WILL NEVER fuction on ATT 3g. They use different bands that the G1 does not use. No matter what you think you may have had, you NEVER had att 3g coverage with a G1. It is an ATT problem, not a rom, radio or whatever problem. Once you unlock a G1 for ATT you say by by to 3g.
Dont belive me, use google and do a tiny ity bity search.

crypysmoker said:
Heres your problem..
A g1 WILL NEVER fuction on ATT 3g. They use different bands that the G1 does not use. No matter what you think you may have had, you NEVER had att 3g coverage with a G1. It is an ATT problem, not a rom, radio or whatever problem. Once you unlock a G1 for ATT you say by by to 3g.
Dont belive me, use google and do a tiny ity bity search.
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He has a Rogers one, so he is able to get AT&T 4G.

maxisma said:
He has a Rogers one, so he is able to get AT&T 4G.
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Ahhh.. See I didnt know there was a difference. I guess its just us US'ers that get screwed on that.
But ATT 3g is garbage anyway lol

crypysmoker said:
Ahhh.. See I didnt know there was a difference. I guess its just us US'ers that get screwed on that.
But ATT 3g is garbage anyway lol
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Actually it's not that bad lol. I live in the boonies about 60 mi. south of St. Louis & I have excellent 3G. I average about 120KB/s and on a good day I can cruise at 210KB/s. Not excellent, but when at my house my only other option is Hughesnet or Dial-up it's pretty dang good. Vzw has no service here & T-Mo barely has EDGE. Sprint is the only other 3G network here and I get about 60KB/s average on my EvDo card.

crypysmoker said:
Ahhh.. See I didnt know there was a difference. I guess its just us US'ers that get screwed on that.
But ATT 3g is garbage anyway lol
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I REALLY hate when people try and give me info that they know NOTHING about. How are YOU going to tell ME if I had AT&T 3G or not? Don't you think I'd realize that!? Why else would I import a Rogers G1!? AT&T's 3G has a much wider spectrum than T-Mobile's, by the way.

iMod_954 said:
I REALLY hate when people try and give me info that they know NOTHING about. How are YOU going to tell ME if I had AT&T 3G or not? Don't you think I'd realize that!? Why else would I import a Rogers G1!? AT&T's 3G has a much wider spectrum than T-Mobile's, by the way.
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oh how I am so tired of you rude little twerps. I made a mistake and I am sorry which I already siad. I was under the impresstion that ATT 3g DID NOT work on G1's I had no idea of the difference in builds.
Dont go giving me a high and mighty BS attitude because I made a mistake. Funny how Im the one who doesnt know what hes talking about, and your the one asking for help.
And as for Tmobiles coverage.. I live in florida.. I stay in florida.. I dont travel. My 3g and sometimes H depedning on what part of town im in averages 800kbps and has gone up to 7mb many times.
So again, Im sorry for making a mistake and apologizing fo rit and Im sorry you prefer ATT.

iMod_954 said:
I REALLY hate when people try and give me info that they know NOTHING about. How are YOU going to tell ME if I had AT&T 3G or not? Don't you think I'd realize that!? Why else would I import a Rogers G1!? AT&T's 3G has a much wider spectrum than T-Mobile's, by the way.
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This should be order for US: Fastest - Slowest
-Verizon
-Sprint
-Tmobile
-A&TT
The top mobile carriers so I excluded any other ones.
I always got slow 3G on my old att phone but tmobile's is faster with great coverage for me and unfortunately bad for you.Not sure what desert wasteland your at that you cant get 3G(jk)...If you dial *#*#4636#*#* then select WCDMA only it should give you only 3G. Not sure if the feature is compat with Att too.

crypysmoker said:
oh how I am so tired of you rude little twerps. I made a mistake and I am sorry which I already siad. I was under the impresstion that ATT 3g DID NOT work on G1's I had no idea of the difference in builds.
Dont go giving me a high and mighty BS attitude because I made a mistake.
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Granted you admitted inaccuracy with your assumption (and at no point apologized, for those keeping track), but with the tone you took in your initial post regarding his issue, I think he has the right to lash out a little.
You can tell him to do itty bitty searches all you want but your input's no good if you don't read first.
Sigh. Back to lurking I go.

crypysmoker said:
Heres your problem..
A g1 WILL NEVER fuction on ATT 3g. They use different bands that the G1 does not use. No matter what you think you may have had, you NEVER had att 3g coverage with a G1. It is an ATT problem, not a rom, radio or whatever problem. Once you unlock a G1 for ATT you say by by to 3g.
Dont belive me, use google and do a tiny ity bity search.
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everyone knows this, I also have a UNLOCKED MyTouch, actually i've had a few unlocked T-mobile phones over the years. All you get EDGE never 3G i dont think it possible to ever get 3G, unless u know how to tweak the freq. and the radio crystal or whatever, and nobody can do that

nicknowsky said:
everyone knows this, I also have a UNLOCKED MyTouch, actually i've had a few unlocked T-mobile phones over the years. All you get EDGE never 3G i dont think it possible to ever get 3G, unless u know how to tweak the freq. and the radio crystal or whatever, and nobody can do that
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Did you read ANYTHING on the second page???? How many times have we explained, he has a ROGERS DREAM. I have one too, THEY GET AT&T 3G, I PROMISE YOU! It's people like this that piss me off.

Geniusdog254 said:
Did you read ANYTHING on the second page???? How many times have we explained, he has a ROGERS DREAM. I have one too, THEY GET AT&T 3G, I PROMISE YOU! It's people like this that piss me off.
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yeah, I import at&t phones for use on rogers network, because they share freq's, rogers = at&t

ATT nexus one & kernels/ROMs

will the existing nexus one kernels/roms work with the att nexus one or is the difference in radio band a show stopper? Just ordered the att nexus one, and currently have a rooted Droid - not sure i could go back to an unrooted & unmod'ed phone

I'm assuming that by ATT you mean unlocked. Regardless, the Nexus One does not have the necessary hardware to use AT&T's 3G. Aside from this, they are compatible. It is the same phone.

No he means the verison thats comming out to be compatible with AT&T's 3G network

It doesn't seem as though Google released a different set of kernel sources for the AT&T Nexus One, so I would assume that all current ROMs are compatible with the new hardware revision.
I just ordered one, by the way.
will the existing nexus one kernals
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In for one I want to flash the HTC Desire firmware on there ASAP so I have full Exchange support!

kozm0naut said:
I'm assuming that by ATT you mean unlocked. Regardless, the Nexus One does not have the necessary hardware to use AT&T's 3G. Aside from this, they are compatible. It is the same phone.
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I mean the unlocked AT&T 3G compatible Nexus One that was released today and should be on my doorstep via FedEx tomorrow.

coolbho3000 said:
..(spelin' corexion)
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sorry... KERNEL ....
my powers been out for 5 days with no end in sight, baby awake all night every night since... no internet except from my rooted droid and my tethered tilt...
... hmm "To prevent spam to the forums, new users must wait five minutes between posts. All new user accounts will be verified by moderators before this restriction is removed." .. I joined in 2008 - how long is the verification process?

I freaking love popcorn.

Has anyone tried the latest cyanogen or baked goods on their ATT N1? I get mine tomorrow and want to make sure it is safe.

wumpscut223 said:
Has anyone tried the latest cyanogen or baked goods on their ATT N1? I get mine tomorrow and want to make sure it is safe.
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Backup your phone, and flash 5.0.4.1. If it works, great! If not? Restore your backup.
Only one way to find out! I get my ATT n1 tomorrow as well. It's going to make my current n1 sad.

kozm0naut said:
I'm assuming that by ATT you mean unlocked. Regardless, the Nexus One does not have the necessary hardware to use AT&T's 3G. Aside from this, they are compatible. It is the same phone.
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Yes, it does now. It's a different model.
So the question remains - are the roms/procedures the same?

i got my att n1 today and the first thing i did was flashed cm 5.0.5 test 2 on it and all i can say its behaving just like the t-mobile one.
im loving the ability to use rogers 3g network since i hate using wifi.

Bell Galaxy S Vibrant

I live in the USA, using AT&T, and is shopping around for Galaxy S phone. The Captivate is the obvious choice under the Galaxy S flag. I just noticed the Galaxy S Vibrant from Canada today and I am really interested in it, especially because of the front facing camera.
How would I go about purchasing it? How would I get it working under the AT&T carrier? How is Edge, 3G, and voice, etc? How would future rom updates be installed? What are the down sides to buying the Vibrant versus a local Captivate?
Thanks

I have a Bell GS and on Bell it works great. Though after a firmware upgrade yesterday is is acting a bit wonky, might have to do reset.
To use it on ATT in the US you would have to buy it outright from Bell or other brick and mortar store that carry Bell phones. ie. Best Buy/FutureShop.
There is an unlock app for GS's and supposedly works on the Bell I9000, haven't tried it myself, no need atm. This will allow you to use a ATT sim card in the phone.
To update, you can use Samsung kies, supposedly what they will be using to push updates to GS, you can get that from samsungs web site. From what I have found so far you need to be in the touch wiz launcher to use kies. only matters if you use 3rd party launchers.
Not sure how the FFC will work for you. That might be dependant on ATT?
Your best bet, if you decide to get one. ROOT and make it your *****!

It would be 100% compatible on AT&T's network. In fact, it's even more compatible because Bell doesn't have a 2G network you can switch to to save battery life.
ROM updates come officially through Kies like normal, although you should also be able to flash most international i9000 ROMs you see floating around here, just make sure before doing so. Flashing a Captivate ROM just because you're on AT&T is a surefire way to brick your phone.
To buy it you will likely need to use something like eBay because even if you purchase it outright almost every store won't let you leave unless you have existing service with Bell. You can unlock it for free though with the method that I am sure is detailed on the Android Development board somewhere.
The obvious downside to buying Bell's Galaxy S is it comes at full retail price (over $500 Canadian) and in all likelihood you're probably going to get a model with the three button download/recovery modes disabled, making flashing ROMs risky. Hold out until the end of this month to see if Samsung Canada announces more about their promised fix for this.

I am using one on AT&T as well and it works fine. Best part is that AT&T doesn't force you on their limited smartphone plans and you can put it on a cheaper unlimited plan.
I got mine in a trade for a BB Torch but you can find one on eBay or maybe talk to a Canadian member here to see about picking one up for you. I would suggest you have them check for the 3 button recovery to make sure it's working before they buy it though.
The downside is warranty issues if it breaks but as long as the 3 button recovery works you should be able to recover from a bad flash and the hardware seems pretty solid so far so no worries there.

Based on the responses, I am definitely going with the Bell/Canadian Vibrant. The only trouble I have now is just finding one to purchase.
How do I post my intentions here to let people that I want one? Who is a reliable dealer here?
Many Thanks
GH

the bell ones got both 850 and 1900 bands?
Also does it have a bell logo on it or is it unbranded.

send me a PM if you want to buy a Bell SGS with 3 button working tested, and GPS tested before mailing it to your address of choice.

BuddyLee said:
the bell ones got both 850 and 1900 bands?
Also does it have a bell logo on it or is it unbranded.
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It is unbranded

3 button mode is enabled again with latest firmware

Epic 4G (used as 3G on Bell / Rogers)
Hello,
I am interested exactly the opposite: I want to buy an Epic from Sprint (with no contract) and to use it in Canada (on Bell or Rogers) but only with a data plan, no voice (as I will use the SIP / VOIP). If Bell or Rogers offers only data plan, should this phone (Epic) works out of the box (or with the unlocking code) on the 3G network of Bell / Rogers, simply inserting their SIM card into the phone?

catalinu said:
Hello,
I am interested exactly the opposite: I want to buy an Epic from Sprint (with no contract) and to use it in Canada (on Bell or Rogers) but only with a data plan, no voice (as I will use the SIP / VOIP). If Bell or Rogers offers only data plan, should this phone (Epic) works out of the box (or with the unlocking code) on the 3G network of Bell / Rogers, simply inserting their SIM card into the phone?
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the sprint version is CDMA, chances are it's CDMA locked to sprint
CDMA unlocking is done on the server side, is not on the phone like GSM
you need to register your CDMA IMEI number to the say... Bell or Telus, if they see it on their server it's allowed they will let you in, if they see it listed as not allowed then they wont register the phone into their (Telus/Bell) CDMA network

garyHal said:
I live in the USA, using AT&T, and is shopping around for Galaxy S phone. The Captivate is the obvious choice under the Galaxy S flag. I just noticed the Galaxy S Vibrant from Canada today and I am really interested in it, especially because of the front facing camera.
How would I go about purchasing it? How would I get it working under the AT&T carrier? How is Edge, 3G, and voice, etc? How would future rom updates be installed? What are the down sides to buying the Vibrant versus a local Captivate?
Thanks
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I use it on Rogers network and it works great. No problem so far.

AllGamer said:
the sprint version is CDMA, chances are it's CDMA locked to sprint
CDMA unlocking is done on the server side, is not on the phone like GSM
you need to register your CDMA IMEI number to the say... Bell or Telus, if they see it on their server it's allowed they will let you in, if they see it listed as not allowed then they wont register the phone into their (Telus/Bell) CDMA network
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Thanks for your answer.
I am not a tech, but the 4G/3G is also depending on CDMA? Or CDMA concerns only voice? Is it 4G/3G a standard (the same on Sprint and Bell and Rogers) that doesn't depend neither on CDMA or GSM?

we don't have 4G support yet in Canada
CDMA is for voice, but if you can not register the phone in the network for voice, you will also not get access to data
to have data you must have a voice connection
not a phone requirement but a phone network carrier requirement

Thanks.
Anyway, I checked right now with Bell and Rogers and no one offers only data plan... But what they will do with iPad and Galaxy Tab that doesn't support voice, but only data? If I will take the SIM out the gTab and put in a phone (Epic or Vibrant or Captivate), will the phone be able to work on 3G?

catalinu said:
Thanks.
Anyway, I checked right now with Bell and Rogers and no one offers only data plan... But what they will do with iPad and Galaxy Tab that doesn't support voice, but only data? If I will take the SIM out the gTab and put in a phone (Epic or Vibrant or Captivate), will the phone be able to work on 3G?
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Tab is a Cell phone, just gigantic! one at that LOL
you can make phone calls with Samsung Tab, just like the Apple iTab... ipad i mean

AllGamer said:
Tab is a Cell phone, just gigantic! one at that LOL
you can make phone calls with Samsung Tab, just like the Apple iTab... ipad i mean
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Yes, but if Bell already sells the dataonly plan for iPad, why they don't sell a dataonly plan also for a smartphone?

because they can claim a Tab is "not a phone" (whatever...)
and a Galaxy is a "phone"

garyHal said:
I live in the USA, using AT&T, and is shopping around for Galaxy S phone. The Captivate is the obvious choice under the Galaxy S flag. I just noticed the Galaxy S Vibrant from Canada today and I am really interested in it, especially because of the front facing camera.
How would I go about purchasing it? How would I get it working under the AT&T carrier? How is Edge, 3G, and voice, etc? How would future rom updates be installed? What are the down sides to buying the Vibrant versus a local Captivate?
Thanks
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I currently have a I9000 and am on ATT's network in southern california. I'm all but satisfied since my coverage is poor indoors and in some areas because of the lack of 850 band support.
I'm looking to move instead to the I9000M from Bell to get the added 850 3g coverage. Were you able to get a phone, root, unlock it and upgrade to froyo 2.2? Can you tell me about your experience so far including testing for 3-button boot into recovery? Where and how much you got the phone for out-the-door? Thanks.

Sorry mate, still waiting on mine, can't believe its been a month. An xda member here indicated that the stores in Canada are out of stock for awhile now.

[Q] HSPA 850MHz on International (Non Bell) Samsung I9000 (firmware)

Hy guys,
I've been reading on that thread for few days and one question raised in my head.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=790984
And that post
forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=8299301&postcount=18
If I buy an International (European or other version) of the Galaxy I9000 that doesn't support frequencies HSPA 850MHz from scratch, do you think it has the same hardware as the Bell Canada one ans that it's just the firmware that enable or disable those frequencies?
If so, it may be interresting to try flashing one Internal version of the I9000 with the CSC and Phone file from firmware UGJH2 and see if it enable the 850MHz HSPA frequency.
If that work, that means that International and/or European unlocked I9000 phone are exactly same hardware and that, We could buy them and use them with Bell and other providers in Canada instead of buying a Bell one.

short answer no
it has been tested and re-tested by several people already
it doesn't work
but feel free to try if you have the time and money to spare
if you want the I9000M (3g 850/1900/2100) you can get it off ebay if you don't care about the 3 button issue, but if you do care about the 3 button thing, you can ping me

Wow thanks alot AllGamer for the quick reply. Sorry if that thread is a double post because I haven't seen one talking about this specifically. I've seen alot about the 850Mhz lost after flashing firmware thow...
So if I understand it correctly... the only option we have is to buy a I9000M from Bell and do the 3 buttons fix from that thread in order to be able to unlock and upgrade...
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784704
I still don't get why those big compagnies does different hardware versions of the same phone for different regions.... that must cost more money...lol
P.S. anyone know if Bell allow us to buy that phone full price (499$) without even activating it or we really need to get it activated for a month even at full price???

franckqcc said:
I still don't get why those big compagnies does different hardware versions of the same phone for different regions.... that must cost more money...lol
P.S. anyone know if Bell allow us to buy that phone full price (499$) without even activating it or we really need to get it activated for a month even at full price???
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correct in all counts
yes, it's kinda stupid they have released more than 8 different variants of the same phone, each of them with just minor changes in hardware/software
like with TV, no TV
with Front Camera, no FC
with Upload speed cut off, Full speed upload (USA AT&T)
with Flash, with no Flash
with more storage, with less storage
with keyboard, without keyboard
with these radio bands, without that radio band
with... bah just too many
I have no clue how they keep up with all the different branches of the same tree
re: Bell...
nope, they do have an activation fee when you purchase it, even when you but it off at full price, the total is roughly $650~680 including all the taxes, activation, shipping materials, shipping, packaging, all the other crazy fees the Bell and the government charges

Just by curiosity.. Do you know a version of that phone that work with 850MHz but include the flash for the camera?
That would be nice to have a flash included with it

The flash is on the CDMA Galaxy S for Verizon only. I don't think this device can be unlocked but anyways I don't think you would want a CDMA smartphone in Canada.

he can always hook it up to Telus or Bell, both runs on CDMA
but you are right CDMA kinda sucks, you can't travel to Europe or most other countries with it.

Yep and since CDMA is way slower than HSPA, that would be useless....the only time we use CDMA is in the regions where HSPA isn't working...
Thanks all for your reply

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he can always hook it up to Telus or Bell, both runs on CDMA
but you are right CDMA kinda sucks, you can't travel to Europe or most other countries with it.
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Bell or Telus will not allow anyone to hook up another carriers CDMA phone. This is NOT an option.

In relation to this same question somewhat...What about a hardware transplant from a Bell Vibrant to a European i9000?
Does anyone know what radio chipset the Bell Vibrant uses and what radio chipset the European i9000 uses? I've seen two different radio chipsets for the i9000, one from Qualcomm and one from Triquint:
Qualcomm RTR8265: (Maybe the Korean i9000?)
http://translate.google.com/transla....com/News_List_View.php?nModeC=4&nSeq=1742568
Triquint TQM6M26028L: (Maybe the Singapore and European i9000?)
http://www.phonewreck.com/2010/08/19/samsung-galaxy-s-teardown/
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/09/disassembly-of-the-samsung-galaxy-s/
http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/galaxy-s-disassembly-28.jpg
Unless I'm reading all 3 disassembly wrong, they have conflicting info in regards to the radio being used. Maybe the radio chipset being used is dependent on the region where the i9000 is from? Can any one confirm? I plan on purchasing an international i9000 to replace my bricked i9000M and would like to see if I could transplant certain parts to see if I could get the 850 MHz via hardware. I plan to disassemble my bricked Bell Vibrant once my toolkit comes in and take some pictures so maybe it'll be of help to people in the future.

Electroz said:
Bell or Telus will not allow anyone to hook up another carriers CDMA phone. This is NOT an option.
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not sure where you got that from but i worked for Telus and we hooked up quite a bunch of USA verizon/sprint CDMA phones online.
we used to do a IMEI check first to make sure it was not blacklisted before signing them up for a plan with their phone

is there an easy way to find this out without taking apart the phone?
dawgpound6985 said:
In relation to this same question somewhat...What about a hardware transplant from a Bell Vibrant to a European i9000?
Does anyone know what radio chipset the Bell Vibrant uses and what radio chipset the European i9000 uses? I've seen two different radio chipsets for the i9000, one from Qualcomm and one from Triquint:
Qualcomm RTR8265: (Maybe the Korean i9000?)
http://translate.google.com/transla....com/News_List_View.php?nModeC=4&nSeq=1742568
Triquint TQM6M26028L: (Maybe the Singapore and European i9000?)
http://www.phonewreck.com/2010/08/19/samsung-galaxy-s-teardown/
http://www.careace.net/2010/06/09/disassembly-of-the-samsung-galaxy-s/
http://www.careace.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/galaxy-s-disassembly-28.jpg
Unless I'm reading all 3 disassembly wrong, they have conflicting info in regards to the radio being used. Maybe the radio chipset being used is dependent on the region where the i9000 is from? Can any one confirm? I plan on purchasing an international i9000 to replace my bricked i9000M and would like to see if I could transplant certain parts to see if I could get the 850 MHz via hardware. I plan to disassemble my bricked Bell Vibrant once my toolkit comes in and take some pictures so maybe it'll be of help to people in the future.
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AllGamer said:
not sure where you got that from but i worked for Telus and we hooked up quite a bunch of USA verizon/sprint CDMA phones online.
we used to do a IMEI check first to make sure it was not blacklisted before signing them up for a plan with their phone
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Thats pretty weird then. CDMA phones don't even have an IMEI. That is a gsm/hsdpa specific number.....
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you said IMEI people will understand what it is
you tell them ESN they will be like "wuuaaat number?"
cust: "my old number before DC?"
me: NO
Your number under the battery compartment or box that came in...
cust: "wuaaat? where?"
me: ohh... never mind, just give me the phone
cust: "here"
me: where's the sticker?
cust: "i peeled it, it didn't look good" (that happened once)
another time was
me: where's the sticker?, it's all smudged & worn out!
cust: "i dunno"...
needless to say both cases were denied, no IMEI/ESN can't register them
a couple of times we did get some black listed ESN from verizon/sprint, also denied on those cases
most of the time they are okay, and can easily be joined to the network, the only trouble was finding the re-programing instruction for those Odd phones as we knew by memory the models we sold, but anything weird will take some times.
we always charged extra for that.

Okay so quick update and something quite interesting. I'm disassembling my Vibrant right now and the piece where the antenna connects is labeled i9000T. More to come in a new thread.

dawgpound6985 said:
Okay so quick update and something quite interesting. I'm disassembling my Vibrant right now and the piece where the antenna connects is labeled i9000T. More to come in a new thread.
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ohhhhhhhh wow! so we got a Latin America model inside?!

AllGamer said:
ohhhhhhhh wow! so we got a Latin America model inside?!
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Seems to be one part. Check out the pictures here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=8395614#post8395614

<farnsworth> Good news everybody! </farnsworth> I have the european i9000 (900/1900/2100) which I bought unlocked in New York City and have been using (with 3g/HSPA) on AT&T.
When I came home to canada, I got a bell sim card (as I have a bell plan, previously with a CDMA phone). When I started the phone, all I was getting was voice, and I was very dissapointed.
I decided to see if Rogers or Tellus would work (as somebody told me they use 1900 more than 850), and when the rogers guy tried his sim, it was the same story. THEN he figured out that for this phone, you have to manually enter the APN info for the canadian carrier. He tried it on my phone, and I started picking up EDGE.
I immediately called bell tech support for the same info, and they refered me to the website. I entered the bell APN info in the settings menu and I now have HSPA on bell in Canada on my european i9000! Spread the word!

mthiffau said:
<farnsworth> Good news everybody! </farnsworth> I have the european i9000 (900/1900/2100) which I bought unlocked in New York City and have been using (with 3g/HSPA) on AT&T.
When I came home to canada, I got a bell sim card (as I have a bell plan, previously with a CDMA phone). When I started the phone, all I was getting was voice, and I was very dissapointed.
I decided to see if Rogers or Tellus would work (as somebody told me they use 1900 more than 850), and when the rogers guy tried his sim, it was the same story. THEN he figured out that for this phone, you have to manually enter the APN info for the canadian carrier. He tried it on my phone, and I started picking up EDGE.
I immediately called bell tech support for the same info, and they refered me to the website. I entered the bell APN info in the settings menu and I now have HSPA on bell in Canada on my european i9000! Spread the word!
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Go outside of a large metropolitan area and report back. Or maybe you could even try reading this thread....

[Q] Which Galaxy Tab?

I am considering purchasing a used/refurbed Galaxy Tab to use primarily as an e-reader. I won't be activating it on a carrier and will use it wifi-only. I have been browsing these forums for possible ROMs and OC kernels and find the organization very confusing versus the forums I'm used to (EVO, Nook Color, Thunderbolt) and I figure this is because there are so many different versions.
So, which is the best for OC and ROMs? It looks like the Sprint and Euro versions have 1.2-1.4Ghz overclock kernels available so should I look for a Sprint one? Do the Tmo,VZW, and ATT ones not have OC kernels?
Thanks!

Go for a GSM version. It has the most customizability at the moment.

Do all GSM ROMs work on all GSM tabs (Att, Tmo, Euro?). I liked the idea of putting a Sprint SGT on Boost Mobile and getting unlimited 3G for 11/mo but I probably will be using WiFi most of the time and 3G isn't a requirement as stated in OP.

Thats one of the resones I got the sprint version, I bought used one with bad esn on craigslist for $150.
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Thats one of the resones I got the sprint version, I bought used one with bad esn on craigslist for $150.
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mmm, if your device has a bad ESN, I thought it would not be possible to put it on Boost since Boost *is* Sprint and use the same ESN DB. Cricket or PagePlus would be possible, though...

wy1d said:
Do all GSM ROMs work on all GSM tabs (Att, Tmo, Euro?). I liked the idea of putting a Sprint SGT on Boost Mobile and getting unlimited 3G for 11/mo but I probably will be using WiFi most of the time and 3G isn't a requirement as stated in OP.
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The Sprint tab has generally been the easiest to get for the lowest price, modulo the once-blue-moon $200 AT&T refurb deal. You can easily find a Sprint tab on ebay for $250 or so.
I decided to spent a little more and get an AT&T tab, since it is GSM and supports Euro 3G bands. But in retrospect, not sure it matters that much. I thought I would want to flash custom Roms, which are mostly all GSM. But now I'm thinking just to wait for the official 2.3 release, in which case, the Sprint tab is probably going to be first (in a few days). Who knows when the AT&T release will be... they seem to be the slowest in such things.
But it is cute that I have been able to unlock my tab, stick in a cheapo Tmo SIM and do SMS and maybe voice with a little more work. Not sure I'd ever really use it though... Skype works excellent with Wifi...

wy1d said:
I am considering purchasing a used/refurbed Galaxy Tab to use primarily as an e-reader. I won't be activating it on a carrier and will use it wifi-only. I have been browsing these forums for possible ROMs and OC kernels and find the organization very confusing versus the forums I'm used to (EVO, Nook Color, Thunderbolt) and I figure this is because there are so many different versions.
So, which is the best for OC and ROMs? It looks like the Sprint and Euro versions have 1.2-1.4Ghz overclock kernels available so should I look for a Sprint one? Do the Tmo,VZW, and ATT ones not have OC kernels?
Thanks!
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You can flash a T-Mobo or AT&T into an Euro GSM.

I think you need to figure out what you want out of the Tab exactly to be able to decide which Tab to get.
If you will use it as an ebook reader then you don't really need OC. As a matter of fact the 3G Tab runs quite smooth at standard voltage if you choose a good ROM/kernel

oh i want it as an ereader. but it's gotta be a BADASS ereader. Light browsing/apps/games occasionally but I have a Thunderbolt and an ultra portable laptop (Thinkpad x220) for emails/voice/text/etc.
sounds like it's still kind of a mixed bag on which carrier and i should probably just go for whichever is cheapest?

I ended up getting a Sprint tab for cheap off craigslist. Waiting for a rooted Gingerbread ROM with overclock!
I did notice that the wifi version was underpowered so the carrier versions are recommend.
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