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Is there a genuine fault with early HTC Diamonds and battery?

Im thinking this because many people who were early adopters with the UK/Euro HTC Diamonds are frustrated with a battery that lasts little more than 12 hours, some people (if they dont push email) a day. Others, particularly those who had the later Diamonds (inc the operator branded ones) are reporting 1.5 - 2 days of usage.
If this is a real problem the HTC should have a recall on their hands. Im hesitant to send mine back (First UK batch) though, even though mine lasts little more than 10-12 hours while pushing email.
What do people think the faults are, the hardware, the ROM or the battery itself?

My Touch Diamond lasts for barely a day, which is amazingly irritating, I've heard most people go on about them getting 2 days, which is what I would have expected considering my old HTC Wizard could get 3 days if you pushed it.

I have a strange battery- li-ion polymer - is there any issue with that? I had a Diamond from first generation , I bought another one , I sold the first but I kept first battery (li-ion polymer). The second one had li-ion battery.

i think it is down to how you use the phone.
i can get 3 days easy if i dont use it alot but i can
also kill it in a day sometimes if im busy.

I think it's all about a one-time calibration. Many notice an increase in lifetime of a battery charge after some use. I made the same observation.
Since I installed a new Hard-SPL, a new radio and a new ROM the battery meter falls rapidly with even the smallest use. I think (hope) that once I discharge the battery nearly to 0% the meter knows how much charge the battery really can hold.
I read somewhere that it's quite impossible to determine the exact charge level of a Li-Ion battery if it's constantly charged und discharged a bit as measurement gets off more and more with each incident.

murks_muell said:
I read somewhere that it's quite impossible to determine the exact charge level of a Li-Ion battery if it's constantly charged und discharged a bit as measurement gets off more and more with each incident.
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No doubt... Yesterday I ran down a portable PC battery from 100% (think it was about 1.5 hours of use). At 0% it kept going for 30 minutes (!!!) before starting to flicker and shut down.

darthbane2k said:
Im thinking this because many people who were early adopters with the UK/Euro HTC Diamonds are frustrated with a battery that lasts little more than 12 hours, some people (if they dont push email) a day. Others, particularly those who had the later Diamonds (inc the operator branded ones) are reporting 1.5 - 2 days of usage.
If this is a real problem the HTC should have a recall on their hands. Im hesitant to send mine back (First UK batch) though, even though mine lasts little more than 10-12 hours while pushing email.
What do people think the faults are, the hardware, the ROM or the battery itself?
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i sent my diamond to the repair center because my battery last only 10 hour without using the phone....in Idle mode, with only the phone on, bt,gps,wifi off.
I hope htc recognize some hardware fault....
the repair center is slow.....about 1 month of waiting..

I think the battery just generally sucks, mine isn't a first batch i don't think (purchased + recieved on T-mobile (MDA Compact IV) a week ago) and i still get poor battery life!

mine lasts about 2/3days
im a light user...don't really bash the phone
but im in hong kong in a couple of weeks
will treat myself to a beter battery while im there

got mine yesterday, and yeah, the battery is horrible
i hope it will improve with a bit of time... i'm still going to add tweaks, and probably flash it too

iceblade911 said:
got mine yesterday, and yeah, the battery is horrible
i hope it will improve with a bit of time... i'm still going to add tweaks, and probably flash it too
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well the newer ROM's are generally much better than the older ones, so if your diamond shipped with an old ROM you may see a considerable improvement.

kolbac Im waiting for your response considering you are the first one, who actually send the phone back. Im also considering this. Im havin 10-12 hours standby aswell. First EU batch. bought in june.

I did send my Diamond back, although for another matter but battery-live was poor too. The new one I recieved back is what I expected in the first place: stable operation and a battery-live of at least two days, most of the time even longer.

laser21 said:
kolbac Im waiting for your response considering you are the first one, who actually send the phone back. Im also considering this. Im havin 10-12 hours standby aswell. First EU batch. bought in june.
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Hi, don't know if in your country take the diamond to a repair center is fast and simple.
Here in italy is a pain in the a**.
There is only one authorized center in all the country and that is in milan, and you have 2 choices:
ship by yourself the phone to the "contact center in milan" or take the phone to a repair center near you and then they have to ship to milan.
So u spend alot of time in this chains and you don't have a direct contact with the technicians.
plus now there was the summer holidays so the workflow is slow.
For sure with only 10-12 hour of standby the diamond isn't usable for me so in my opinion you should take it to a repair center.
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Magic Extended Battery

I was wondering if anyone has spotted a extended battery for the magic/ion yet? I should be getting my Ion any day and I'd love to have one. I've found no useful results on google.

The device is only a few weeks old, so don't expect to see one for maybe another month or 2.

Actually now that I have had time to play with my Ion; It gets better battery life than what my G1 did with my extended 2600mah Innocell battery. I can't believe the difference. This is what the G1 should have been.

1760mah Extended Magic Battery
His transaction history seems sound and he claims it is 1760mah. I ordered one. I'll let ya know what happens.

Is the size the same that original?

JmJ17 said:
Is the size the same that original?
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The original stck battery is 1400mah.

Gimpeh said:
The original stck battery is 1400mah.
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? mines 1340mAh... then again, Vodafone UK model has less ram so makes sense they supplied us with a worse battery too
anyway, be good to know if the battery off ebay makes a difference for you

Ive got a new battery
Not sure if from this seller but its 1760mah, its the same physical size as before.
I need a decent battery app that will show all the tech details which I'll post screenshots of, any ideas

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1760mah Extended Magic Battery
His transaction history seems sound and he claims it is 1760mah. I ordered one. I'll let ya know what happens.
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Any updates? Is it legit?

dferreira said:
Any updates? Is it legit?
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The item is coming from Europe. I ordered it at the end of June and I'm still waiting. I'm pretty disappointed in the time this has taken. This completely goes against the feedback left on his account.

I never did receive the battery. I'll be getting my money back. Although Yoobbao is now offering 2600MAH Batteries! I ordered one and should be receiving it shortly.

Look forward to hearing back from you.
Am a heavy user myself.

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Look forward to hearing back from you.
Am a heavy user myself.
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The Magic already handles battery life a hell of alot better than the G1 but with so much battery... I don't expect to need to charge it that often.

Gimpeh said:
The Magic already handles battery life a hell of alot better than the G1 but with so much battery... I don't expect to need to charge it that often.
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True that, if I was just making some calls or text messaging i wouldn't need to charge it for at least a couple of days. Some occassions, for example hiking, I tend to leave GPS on all day to record my tracks as well as access some data apps here and there, which I notice the data usage is usually the one to blame that drains the battery fairly quickly. If a bigger battery could rest assure that would be awesome.

The thing with owning a phone like the magic, is that you don't want to stick to just a few calls and texts, when you have so much more at your disposal. Otherwise I would have stuck with my old Nokia and only charged it once every several days.

The thing with owning a phone like the magic, is that you don't want to stick to just a few calls and texts, when you have so much more at your disposal. Otherwise I would have stuck with my old Nokia and only charged it once every several days.
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Exactly, my Sony Ericsson C902 normaly lasts from mon-fri no problem with texting and calling.
With a phone like the magic you do want to make most out of it, and mine normally gives me a full day of continous use. Originally i only used to get half a day as i hammerd it but a few good tweaks make a MASSIVE difference.
- get a brightness widget and just adjust it as required. i have it at 40%.
- get an over clocking app and underclock it when screen is off or having less use. (root needed)
- get a task killer, apps runing in background can drain it too. Well they seem to. (root needed).
Anyway, whats the update on the new battery Gimpeh mate.

jundy said:
Exactly, my Sony Ericsson C902 normaly lasts from mon-fri no problem with texting and calling.
With a phone like the magic you do want to make most out of it, and mine normally gives me a full day of continous use. Originally i only used to get half a day as i hammerd it but a few good tweaks make a MASSIVE difference.
- get a brightness widget and just adjust it as required. i have it at 40%.
- get an over clocking app and underclock it when screen is off or having less use. (root needed)
- get a task killer, apps runing in background can drain it too. Well they seem to. (root needed).
Anyway, whats the update on the new battery Gimpeh mate.
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It shipped monday with expedited shipping. Keep in mind it is coming from China. I've been using the donation version of Advance Task Manager forever now. Whats the difference between that and Task Killer? I've looked at the description and it appears the same. I wish one of these could be set to auto kill apps that start up. Throughout the day I'll open up task manager only to see that Foobook and a few others are idling again after killing them earlier in the day. Annoyances!

No real difference really, just that task killer has a widget aswell that shows number of apps running and upon clicking it, it kills everything.
I only went over to tasKiller as the advanced task manager app expired.

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Mugen Power now has 3 batteries for Magic: 1550, 2600 and 3650 mAh. http://www.mugen-power-batteries.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=htc+magic
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Damn! Looks like I'll be getting the 3650 now. Anyone want a 2500?

Hi guys,
this is my first post on this board, so i want greet all first.
Looking on the mugen power site, I've realized that with 2600mAh or 3650mAh extended battery you are force to change the battery covery due the size of the battery, and also your phone will become much ticker, it's right?
While I'm pretty happy with the stock Magic battery, looking on the mugen power site i have seen that 1550mAh extended battery doesn't require a cover battery change, so i would be happy to give it a try and mantain the thin shape of the Magic. Anyone can confirm me that the 1550mAh battery doesn't require a cover battery change?
Last question i'm in Italy and i hasn't been able to uderstand where this company is located on both about us and customer service there is some dummy text ,and there are no information on the contact page. The only information that i have is that domain is registred to an'Hungarian man.
So in few word is this site trustable? anyone here has experiece with this battery? They ship from Europe North America or Asia?
Sorry for all this question, but about a month ago the local national tv reported the case of a woman which changed the battery of his phone whith a chinese one, and the phone/battery exploded in her hands.
Thanks all in advance

(Maybe) future Diamond owner

Hi all, i've got an HTC Elfin.
My friend wants to exchange my Elfin with his Diamond (and some cash).
Of course i'd be interested, the only thing that makes me unsure is the diamond's battery...
I heard that it isn't very durable and on pdadb i've seen that it's only 900mA, against the 1300mA of mine.
Is this really a problem? How long does your battery work?

Cero92 said:
Hi all, i've got an HTC Elfin.
My friend wants to exchange my Elfin with his Diamond (and some cash).
Of course i'd be interested, the only thing that makes me unsure is the diamond's battery...
I heard that it isn't very durable and on pdadb i've seen that it's only 900mA, against the 1300mA of mine.
Is this really a problem? How long does your battery work?
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My Diamond lasted threw the 10 hour work day when it was new not so much anymore tho. how ever I have 2 email accounts set up as "as items arrive", weather updates every 30min, twitter updates every 30min, facebook... and so on... so lots of data being used which kills the batt.

Lol my battery are Very ****ing durable
Ehh.... My Battery can last like 3-5 Days if u got tha right Rom(Custom Os) and Right Settings it all should be very nice and my diamond is soon like 3-5 months old if i were u in that situation i would do it

I have the stock from verizon, my battery dies in about 4-6 hours of standbye. 4 if i talk any or use the Instant messenger.
I hate my diamond, if i had not paid so much for it, i would junk it and buy...anything.

my old Diamond would get a solid day or two. Sometimes 3 if i didn't use it to much.
Custom ROMs definitely improve battery life, and it is simple to unlock and flash a rom to the phone, much easier than on this Evo4g lol.
I now have all the radios turned off and the phone in airplane mode. A full charge, lasted me close to 3 weeks. I simply let my son play with it and it keeps him entertained swiping the screens and everything.

Have had my Diamond for about 6 months now and using energyrom. I get about a day and bit on a full charge. If I do a few conversations and get on a wifi a few times, I will need to charge before the end of the day. Not the greatest battery but that's what car chargers are for!

7392 ruined my battery life

Since updating my HD7 to 7392 the battery is dead at 8pm despite me hardly using the phone at all.
Previously, even with lots of use I never got to the critical warning before plugging it in at 11pm.
Sick of this WP7 **** now. Phone still 16 bit colour as well.
Phone is o2 UK but debranded using petbede's method, then official NoDo and official 7392 installed over the top.
Didn't regret not getting the iPhone 4 for a few months but I'm starting to now.

So no-one else affected?
Well, I'm now restoring back to 7390. If this doesn't fix it I'm gonna get rid of this damn phone and god knows what I'll end up with.
Has anyone noticed trade in values for the HD7 have gone to ****? I'll be lucky to end up back where I started on an iPhone 3G.

Have you bothered to recondition your battery? As in charge it full, drain it all the way, then recharge.
If so, contact HTC for a replacement battery. The 7392 was only security patches, nothing is related to battery life.
But if you are too lazy to do that, go ahead. Have fun with your new/old IPhone 3G.

Ive noticed my battery dies alot quicker now to but I totally forgot that I updated my phone until now.lol

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Have you bothered to recondition your battery? As in charge it full, drain it all the way, then recharge.
If so, contact HTC for a replacement battery. The 7392 was only security patches, nothing is related to battery life.
But if you are too lazy to do that, go ahead. Have fun with your new/old IPhone 3G.
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Thanks but it's literally gone since I did the update. Previously it would last me the whole day.
I'll try a few sets of charging and draining, but it will be interesting to see what happens now that I've rolled it back to 7390.
I understood it to be the same as you, 7392 is just a security update. But something about the process of installing updates seems to cause battery issues.
I really don't want to go back to an iPhone as when I use my wife's 3GS it seems very dated compared to WP7. But I'm sick of the hassle of WP7 at the moment!

BlitterTwisted said:
Thanks but it's literally gone since I did the update. Previously it would last me the whole day.
I'll try a few sets of charging and draining, but it will be interesting to see what happens now that I've rolled it back to 7390.
I understood it to be the same as you, 7392 is just a security update. But something about the process of installing updates seems to cause battery issues.
I really don't want to go back to an iPhone as when I use my wife's 3GS it seems very dated compared to WP7. But I'm sick of the hassle of WP7 at the moment!
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no such issues..... how do u test the screen for 16 bit... my screen looks crisp and hd still...

I noticed this last night.
I charged it fully before going to work at 8pm then time it came to 12:30 i had used over 3/4 of the battery just by web surfing and sending 8 sms.
Mine is a o2 HD7 but running the euro htc rom, i always let it run out and recharge to full.
Im thinking more and more of binning WP7 just a shame my device has afew knocks to it otherwise it would be trade in. Looks like its heading to the back of the draw.

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I noticed this last night.
I charged it fully before going to work at 8pm then time it came to 12:30 i had used over 3/4 of the battery just by web surfing and sending 8 sms.
Mine is a o2 HD7 but running the euro htc rom, i always let it run out and recharge to full.
Im thinking more and more of binning WP7 just a shame my device has afew knocks to it otherwise it would be trade in. Looks like its heading to the back of the draw.
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Exactly the same as me, I'm running the unbranded euro HTC rom too.
Did your battery problems start after installing 7392?
One of the reasons I bought into WP7 was the hope of getting the updates and things improving. Never considered the possibility that updates could make things worse.

Ive only been running the update for a week and the battery wasnt that gr8 before hand but last night opened my eyes to how bad since this patch.
I would do a hard reset and see if that helps but as MS left out a way to back-up SMS im a little stuck.
How ever im feeling that wp7 is all its cracked up to be, looking at whats coming in mango is good but i feel the battery may suffer.

Since downgrading back to 7390 my battery life has returned to normal!
Hammered the phone with a good hour or calls today and even now the battery is not dead, it will last till going on charge at bed time.
What the hell is going on with 7392 then!?!

Did you hard reset?

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Did you hard reset?
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No just downgraded via standard Zune option.

Just saw this update for my phone out and then saw this thread. Are others having the issue with the battery? I will gladly hold off on this update if it really does drain it that much.
Any other confirmations?

I can't imagine the Security update causes this, perhaps a new Radio is downloaded with the update?
I'm on Unbranded Euro ROM and the same OS version 7.0.7392.0 with Radio Software 5.54.09.21_22.33b.50.10U, can someone post their Radio from OS Version 7390?
P.S. I haven't actually noticed any Battery drain since the update. I cahrge every night from about 11pm - 7am and my phone will last untill I put it on charge again at the same times.

NachoNut said:
Just saw this update for my phone out and then saw this thread. Are others having the issue with the battery? I will gladly hold off on this update if it really does drain it that much.
Any other confirmations?
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I updated mine yesterday and haven't noticed any difference in battery life.

I just uptaded, I will post results tomorrow

battery
First day experience of mine,Battery is dead after 7392 update 15 minute talk 20 sms in 7 hours!I am going to downgrade tonight back previus Rom!

Yeah, I feel this thing too,
The battery are more faster draining than old in my HD7 (O2DE Rom).
Just play few game for a hour and my battery is lower than 20%.

I'm in the same boat...
After the update, not only is my battery draining faster, but my reception actually seems worse (subjective).
I hope we can find out why and get a fix for this sharpish as it's driving me nuts having to carry my charger around with me (quite a heavy user)...

So does anybody who's rolled/rolling back fancy posting their Radio versions to compare?

[Q] Is my phone really defective

im gonna take my thrill back today and get a new one! I am having trouble with the battery as many people are but I dont know if it is worse than others. I unhooked it a few minutes ago and it went from 99 percent down to 90 in about 3-4 minutes and down to 80 in another 10 minutes and im not even sure what is running in the background because I thought I had an app killer installed. anyway the other problem is that I cannot get an internet connection at all unless I am on wifi. I have unlimited data and should be able to use programs like facebook even at the university but I cannot. Does anyone think I am doing the right thing by returning the phone? sorry about the long rant

Sounds like you have a bad battery. When I first got my Nexus S I had the same problem replaced that battery through att and it has been fine ever since. Also I have noticed that some task killers cant remember witch ones in specific hurt battery life. I would take it back for a new one may as well replace the whole device if you can.

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im gonna take my thrill back today and get a new one! I am having trouble with the battery as many people are but I dont know if it is worse than others. I unhooked it a few minutes ago and it went from 99 percent down to 90 in about 3-4 minutes and down to 80 in another 10 minutes and im not even sure what is running in the background because I thought I had an app killer installed. anyway the other problem is that I cannot get an internet connection at all unless I am on wifi. I have unlimited data and should be able to use programs like facebook even at the university but I cannot. Does anyone think I am doing the right thing by returning the phone? sorry about the long rant
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The data thing definitely sounds like a bug. The battery on the other hand is normal on some new Thrills. After a week or so it should settle in and battery life gets better over time.
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Yeah, if you first got the phone it takes a few cycles before battery starts to improve. But it seems pretty bad, i would return it since you have the oppurtunity.
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Thank you for the replies, I have had this phone for about 3 weeks and I keep it plugged in at night through usb but I also have to connect it for a few hours in the daytime as well. I havent had a chance to return it but I may do so today although the wifi issue seems to be working now. maybe the At&t Network was down?

lordshane said:
Thank you for the replies, I have had this phone for about 3 weeks and I keep it plugged in at night through usb but I also have to connect it for a few hours in the daytime as well. I havent had a chance to return it but I may do so today although the wifi issue seems to be working now. maybe the At&t Network was down?
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A note on the battery issue? What's the signal strength like where you live? The data signal in my house is so bad that if I forget to turn wifi on after getting home from work my battery will drain close to 40% over night. My wife's Captivate does the same thing. If the signal is weak the phone will constantly poll for a stronger signal.
All that aside I would definitely still take advantage and seek a replacement while its free. If you still have issues atleadt you'll know its something correctable and not the phone.
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