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Hello there must i uninstall the oneclick lagfix before i do the official 2.2 update?
Or can i update with it installed?
And can it be done without kies because i cant get that to work.
Best regards
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I would like to know this too - before the official is out, so I can get it when it's hot.
Also: is unrooting necessary before updating? I really like the added functionality from my rooted device, can I keep that?
I'm also interested in a definitive answer to this.
Also on a somewhat related note, will a batch titanium backup be enough to restore my apps, settings, etc. to pretty much exactly how they were before updating?
Darkimmortal said:
I'm also interested in a definitive answer to this.
Also on a somewhat related note, will a batch titanium backup be enough to restore my apps, settings, etc. to pretty much exactly how they were before updating?
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Well... isn't the firmware the only thing that changes?
Or will all the apps be deleted? (If not, why do you care about backups?)
Mad Maniak said:
Well... isn't the firmware the only thing that changes?
Or will all the apps be deleted? (If not, why do you care about backups?)
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Fairly certain that Kies updates wipe everything on the phone - equivalent to a factory reset.
May be wrong however
It seems you are right - damn.
"Another thing should be noticed is you must back up all important data before updating your phone, or you will lose all data."
all-samsungphones.com/lastest-official-firmware-update-for-samsung-galaxy-s-i9000
So... what to backup. All apps... will SMS messages be lost too? How about GPS settings, or stuff thats stored on the internal SD card?
Titanium Backup is godsent for factory resets. Yes it restores everything but Its advisiable to just restore the apps you installed and not the system settings.
Screwed up a few of my factory resets.
As for contacts, back them up on Google and for SMS you can use SMS Backup+ (note the +) which can backup your sms on gmail automatically and restore them! its so awesome
and no it wont touch your internal sd. Titanium backup files are stored there though
Thanks for the reply... however, SMSBackup+ doesn't work for me (keeps crashing), first app to do that to me, EVER.
Anyway, could anyone tell us about the root and lag fix needing to be removed or not?
Mad Maniak said:
Thanks for the reply... however, SMSBackup+ doesn't work for me (keeps crashing), first app to do that to me, EVER.
Anyway, could anyone tell us about the root and lag fix needing to be removed or not?
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it shouldnt be necessary but its advisable to remove OCLF,
for voodoo, its a must.
Its sad that SMSbackup doesnt work on you, there's alternatives out there but i prefer SMSbackup+ since it uses your gmail account which means its on the cloud
im not sure of the other alternatives but I certainly saw a few that saved to your SD card and can restore from there, im not sure how well they work though
Well, in that case, I'll leave it be for now (lagfix and root) seeing as Voodoo isn't yet released for Froyo:
"What about Froyo?
Current Froyo builds are leaked development firmwares, not meant to be released.
Of course Froyo is the future for Galaxy S and as soon as Samsung will release a stable firmware and the corresponding sources, Voodoo improvements will be ported to it."
Once that happens; bye bye OCLF.
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so we can update to 2.2 with the lagfix installed?
Yes I want o know this as well, I have OCLF 2.2+ do I need to UNROOT my sgs AND "undo OCLF" AND "remove ext2 tools" ? All of them or just one ?
Can someone please answer this
Absconditus said:
Yes I want o know this as well, I have OCLF 2.2+ do I need to UNROOT my sgs AND "undo OCLF" AND "remove ext2 tools" ? All of them or just one ?
Can someone please answer this
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yes please answer us
YES, UNINSTALL ONLY THE LAGFIX (means restore EXT2 and uninstall the lagfix!)
NO NEEDS TO UNROOT! since the new kernel will be overwrite and you will have anyway an unrooted kernel again!
DONT FORGET TO WIPE ALL and hard reset...is the best safe way to a successfull flash! make a backup maybe titanium backup ... is a good way for the appz and dont forget to backup your contacts
then u can restore all!
I never had problems doing it in this way!
I went to the voodoo irc channel and the people said it was unnecessary to uninstall the voodoo lagfix before the firmware update. What IS NECESSARY is that you 'DISABLE LAGFIX' before doing the update.
lagfix
But i have the one click lagfix installed
i was really interested in installing a new rom, specifically cognition, and i did, but i figured since i just got my captivate and all my media was on my sd card and i barely installed any apps, i would just skip the titanium backup step. I definitely was able to get the new rom, but i think i may have messed up something big, even flashing back to stock didnt help. I just want to know exactly how important titanium backup is and what it really does other than save a few settings and apps.
If you want me to elaborate on what i messed up just ask
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i was really interested in installing a new rom, specifically cognition, and i did, but i figured since i just got my captivate and all my media was on my sd card and i barely installed any apps, i would just skip the titanium backup step. I definitely was able to get the new rom, but i think i may have messed up something big, even flashing back to stock didnt help. I just want to know exactly how important titanium backup is and what it really does other than save a few settings and apps.
If you want me to elaborate on what i messed up just ask
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You are asking for help so don't you think telling what happened is important. Tibu backs up your apps and data. If you use it don't select system data because that will screw stuff up. Its not necessary to use tiny but it is very useful.
This is my Captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine.
Skipping TiBu step should not affect your ROM. It only backs up your installed apps with data, so you do not have to reinstall them one by one manually after you flashed.
ok thats exactly what i wanted to know. thanks for clearing it up guys.
So I usually run Serendipity, a 2.2.1 ROM. Whenever I decide I want to try a 2.2 ROM like Cognition or Andromeda (? idk if it's 2.2 but still applies), after restoring my stuff with TiBU, I get a ton of FC's, making it unusable.
Any way to avoid this? I would love to use those ROM's
Regards
Smith
smithisize said:
So I usually run Serendipity, a 2.2.1 ROM. Whenever I decide I want to try a 2.2 ROM like Cognition or Andromeda (? idk if it's 2.2 but still applies), after restoring my stuff with TiBU, I get a ton of FC's, making it unusable.
Any way to avoid this? I would love to use those ROM's
Regards
Smith
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Think you answered your own question; "After restoring my stuff with TiBU".
But I have never used TiBu, but I would try not to do a restore with it and see if your getting the fc's still. Maybe incompatibility issue.
Xstop said:
Think you answered your own question; "After restoring my stuff with TiBU".
But I have never used TiBu, but I would try not to do a restore with it and see if your getting the fc's still. Maybe incompatibly issue.
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It of course alleviates the problems, but I hate having to restore things manually >.< are there things within TiBU that I can uncheck for restore??
+1 definitely bc of the restore.
Sorry brotha, but this one is out of my scope since I don't use TiBu. And I don't want to guess for you. Just hold tight and I'm sure someone will chime in.
A lot of the members here uses TiBu.
I appreciate all the quick feedback.
Dang TiBU Incompatibilities >.<
For anyone who knows more about TiBU, these are things I actually care about restoring:
-My apps
-Contacts
-Stuff like taht
Usage of TiBu:
* Never restore system data, no matter what, except contacts storage, and alarm clock. These are the only two that worked for me.
1. Moving between 2.1, 2.2, and 2.2.1: Restore user apps only, no data
2. Changing ROMs within same version: Restore user apps + user data
This thread took a few posts before getting to the right idea. My two cents is that it is a restore problem mainly with the system data. Never restore system stuff as it always leads to problems. Only restore user apps
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I was curious to know if someone could provide me with a step my step method of changing ROMs on a rooted captivate. I'm currently running Firefly ROM and want to know how to switch ROMs without loosing my apps and the data stored in them (such as high scores on games and such).
I tried Titanium Backup but it seems to cause problems with the system phone app when i switch and do "backup all user apps and data -> restore all user apps and data".
Also when i try to use rom manager to create a backup...the backup crashes, goes to a samsung "Android System Recovery"....the up volume button moves my selection down and the down volume moves my selection up. The power button doesn't select anything. When I press the menu button, all the text disappears.
I just want a sound way of backing up ROMs and Apps (with their data) to easily switch between ROMs more freely and with security of mind.
Thanks, and please respond.
Best to ask this in the Q&A section, and check the stickies. Tons of good info up there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
Put the ROM on your sdcard
Boot to recovery
Choose the zip
Install
Reboot
Enjoy
Yes, please post questions in the Q&A section as mentioned above.
Also, disregard opcow's reply; he did not read your whole post and it does not apply to you. His method will wipe everything on your phone.
Most of the suggestions you'll get are TiBu (Titanium Backup). When you make a backup (I'm assuming you're doing a batch backup with TiBu Pro), only select User Apps. Don't select User Apps + System ... (don't remember what it's called). This way, you'll save your apps with their settings and info, but you will not back up your phone's settings, such as WiFi networks, GPS, etc.
Trust me though, because of the diverse way that ROMs handle things, you don't want to back up your system settings, otherwise you may run into issues such as those you mentioned before.
Another note: do not use ROM Manager!
It's a nice piece of software, but it doesn't work a lot of the time. This doesn't apply to your backups, you're just restoring the backups incorrectly, but regardless, don't use ROM Manager.
Anyway, to correctly apply a Nandroid Backup, you must have the same exact kernel and modem installed ATM on the phone that were present in the Nandroid Backup. For example:
Let's say you have XYZ ROM installed with SuckerPunch #47 kernel and the KP1 modem. Then you make a Nandroid backup of that ROM.
After that, you go and install ABC ROM with Speedmod kernel and JK4 modem. After a day of use, you want to restore your XYZ Nandroid backup.
In order to do this, you must install the SuckerPunch #47 kernel and the KP1 modem on top of the ABC ROM before you restore the Nandroid backup.
If you don't do this, you'll run into issues.
Hopefully that will fix your issue. I tend to steer clear of Nandroid backups because of all the issues that I've seen people have with them, but if you're looking to restore your phone to the exact state that you had it at one point, then a Nandroid backup is the way to go. Otherwise, use TiBu.
Also, before you backup or restore (the first thing you should do after you install TiBu) is to click on the button that says "Problems?". This will install a version of BusyBox that is known to work with TiBu. If you have a version that doesn't work correctly, then your backup or restore will not work correctly either.
Good luck!
Loggik said:
Also, disregard opcow's reply; he did not read your whole post and it does not apply to you. His method will wipe everything on your phone.
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You're right. I just read the first sentence. This question gets asked a lot and I just go into autopilot.
OP, It is true that my method will wipe your phone, but that's actually what you want unless you are going flashing a no-wipe upgrade, in which case my method would work just fine. But yes, generally your will want to back up with something like Titanium Backup. Backing up apps and data is fine, just don't restore system data and it shouldn't cause problems. I've done it at least 5 times in the last 2 days.
I would avoid nandroid backups. They aren't mostly useful after reverting to the ROM you were running when you made the backup, not for restoring apps.
Use MyBackup pro its more user friendly.
Thanks, a couple more follow ups.
Thank you very very much. Another quick follow up question.
My version of clockwork mod (v2.5.1.0 Speedmod ULFK) gives me the following options:
-Backup DATA: data + dbdata + cache
-Restore DATA
-Backup ALL
-Restore ALL (Be careful!)
....which 2 do i select to backup/restore a nandroid effectively. Based on your responses, ill most likely be doing TiBu, but just to better understand the architecture of the phone and the clockwork files i wanna know.
Also, is there a way i can change / upgrade the clockwork recovery version of my phone...whats the most recent version if i decide to do so?
Aside from this, Thank you to everyone who is helping me out with this issue. Much appreciated.
opcow said:
You're right. I just read the first sentence. This question gets asked a lot and I just go into autopilot.
OP, It is true that my method will wipe your phone, but that's actually what you want unless you are going flashing a no-wipe upgrade, in which case my method would work just fine. But yes, generally your will want to back up with something like Titanium Backup. Backing up apps and data is fine, just don't restore system data and it shouldn't cause problems. I've done it at least 5 times in the last 2 days.
I would avoid nandroid backups. They aren't mostly useful after reverting to the ROM you were running when you made the backup, not for restoring apps.
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Do you know if there is a way to restore apps using Titanium Backup without having to manually click through and accept each and every app?
killswitch7 said:
Do you know if there is a way to restore apps using Titanium Backup without having to manually click through and accept each and every app?
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Buy the pro version. If you flash allot it is a must
killswitch7 said:
Do you know if there is a way to restore apps using Titanium Backup without having to manually click through and accept each and every app?
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Like the above post says, buy Titanium Backup Pro; it's worth it, and it features the Batch Mode, which allows for what you're asking.
Ompalompa287 said:
....which 2 do i select to backup/restore a nandroid effectively. Based on your responses, ill most likely be doing TiBu, but just to better understand the architecture of the phone and the clockwork files i wanna know.
Also, is there a way i can change / upgrade the clockwork recovery version of my phone...whats the most recent version if i decide to do so?
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For a full on Nandroid Backup, select Backup All... and obviously Restore All... when the time comes that you need to restore your backup. But like opcow said, it's best to stay away from Nandroid backups... they can get messy
dingokevin said:
Use MyBackup pro its more user friendly.
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I cannot agree. It may look more user friendly, but it has a lot less support. I've never even heard of it, whereas TiBu has almost every feature you could want. Plus, look at it this way:
Linux is in no way easier to use than Windows or OS X (though OS X is based off of Linux, but disregarding that...). However, it can do a TON more than Windows or OS X, but you just need to get used to it. Same with TiBu v.s. MyBackup Pro (or w/e it's called).
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You're right. I just read the first sentence. This question gets asked a lot and I just go into autopilot.
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I know how you feel
thank you all!
I was wondering, if I create a backup of my system using Titanium Backup, how would I go then restoring this if I flash my phone with different firmwares? I would like to try some different ones out, see which works best for me, but I've got a few games and things that I would like to still retain the saves games for..
Is there going to be compatibility issues?
Thanks in advance
Denno
Yeah, you can restore them after flashing new roms. Just get in Titanium backup click on a game or application and hit backup. After you flash the new Rom you'll have to download and install Titanium backup again and you just click on the backed up app and hit restore. There should be no issues with compatibility.
That's amazing to hear . This was the only thing stopping me from trying new roms at the moment. Wicked.
Thanks
Denno
Dont restore system if you are going
from froyo to gb or eclair or whatever, but fine if going from one froyo rom to another etc etc
Sent from gt i9000 insanity 8.5/fugumod
So if I try and flash a rom based on gingerbread after backing up apps on a froyo firmware, this won't work?
your apps and app data will be restored no problem.
but if you backup system data on froyo and restore it on gingerbread or vice versa then you will have problems.
Ah I see.. what's an example of system things that I would want to restore? (just so I don't expect the wrong things AFTER I've flashed). I think it would just be apps that I want to back up though.. Like games and stuff..
Just what it says, syatem data, settings that kind of thing, look at the options in batch on titaniun
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Thanks guys . I'll be sure to look out for that then.
Cheers
Denno
Be careful with restoring system-settigns
This can lead to all sorts of strange stuff (I had boot-loops)