[Q] Radio Update on N1 - root necessary? - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I am realy happy with my N1 so far, but lately I have some issues.
My N1 is not rooted or anything else, I havent flashed anything yet.
Do I need root or something else to flash a radio?
I read something about Custom Recovery but I am not sure.

You either need a rooted phone or a non rooted with the bootloader unlocked

what is the better solution in your opinion?
can i change it back?
for example can i root my phone, flash a radio, and then unroot the phone?

You can change back from root.
You cannot change back from unlocked bootloader.
Please read:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Nexus_One
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[QUESTION] Root FRF91 without touching boot loader

I know the update was a security fix but am looking for a method to root while remaining as completely stock as humanly possible. I've never rooted before and am still completely stock now.
Best case scenario would be to gain root while leaving everything stock, boot loader, recovery, etc.. maybe even try one of them nice roms for the first time (i hear cyrogen is the best and yes I probably misspelled that)
Thanks
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Same question
There's a couple of tutorials about this in another thread.
If I were you i'd follow one of them and also install a custom recovery. Then play around all you like with rooted roms, stock, custom or otherwise. Once you have a custom recovery you can flash anything. The only down side is that you won't be able to install any OTA roms. But to be honest they appear on XDA in a format you can use on custom recovery way way before you ever receive an OTA notification anyway.
Then if you're sure you only want a stock but rooted rom, then install that and then finally flash the stock recovery back.
However if you're sure you don't want a custom recovery and only want root, you can follow the first half of the same tutorials.
I myself have an unlocked bootloader, but if I didnt, I would root, install a custom recovery and never look back. If anything ever happened to my device i'd just flash the stock recovery and stock firmware and send it back.
Ok, thanks!
That's good information but I'm unsure if I want to unlock at the moment. Thanks but I'll wait a little longer to see if a solution comes out that this my needs.
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viper2g1 said:
That's good information but I'm unsure if I want to unlock at the moment. Thanks but I'll wait a little longer to see if a solution comes out that this my needs.
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No, thats the point. You dont need to unlock to root OR put a custom recovery anymore. See here for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
So you can root, put on a custom recovery, try different roms and then go back to stock, rooted or not, without unlocking the bootloader at all.
I see what your getting at, that's what I was looking for but wasn't sure it was working for FRF91 the last few posts in that thread indicated an unlocked boot loader last time I looked.
I thought the update was to fix the security hole that allowed that
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I have read a lot of comments on the guide of how root the nexus without unlocking the bootloader and searched in other places but couldn't find an answer to my question...
I've got at&t version nexus unrooted and I updated it to FRF91 OTA.
can I use this guide to root it without unlocking the bootloader?
If I can, how do I do it? some people wrote that I need to use Passimg.zip
but I think It's for T-mo version only because at&t's version doesn't have the erf79 (I hope I wrote it right).
anyway I'm really confused. can someone please explain?
thanks
I've got at&t version nexus unrooted and I updated it to FRF91 OTA.
can I use this guide to root it without unlocking the bootloader?
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Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.
RashaMatt said:
Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.
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they should work in the same way as it did for FRF83 or FRF85B.. you could always try without harm
RashaMatt said:
Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.
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this link: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717870
is a guide of how to downgrade from FRF91 to FRF85 in an unrooted nexus.
that way you can use this tut and root it w/o touchnig the bootloader
EPE76 to frf85B
Hi,
I am back from frf91 ota to EPE76 by applaing passimg.zip. My question is how can I move to frf85B ? I've tried to download universal frf85B, change name to update.zip and go to recovery, but I only see exclemation mark. Please advise. Thank you.

Stock 2.05.405.2 still shows HBOOT of 43.0001

My unrooted stock Legend currently running 2.05.405.2 still
shows a bootloader of 43.0001. I went from stock 1.31.405.5 to 2.05 via OTA.
This seems weird considering 2.03 has a later version of the bootloader.
Is this the same for all 2.05 users? Is my bootloader corrupted in some way?
Perhaps it means I can root it without downgrade.
nsaranga said:
My unrooted stock Legend currently running 2.03.405.3 still
shows a bootloader of 43.0001. I went from stock 1.31.405.5 to 2.03 via OTA.
This seems weird considering 2.03 has a later version of the bootloader.
Is this a the same for all 2.05 users? Is my bootloader corrupted in some way?
Perhaps it means I can root it without downgrade.
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How did you get OTA 2.03 if you have 1.31???
Hi,
Sorry, I got my numbers mixed up. I had 1.31.405.5 and got 2.05 ota.
I've edited the original post. Nonetheless, the bootloader still shows 43.0001.
I checked also, same build and still show hboot 43.0001. Weird. Anyway
I don't complain.
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And we could root?
Hi, my device is still on 43.0001.
Is it possible to root my device without downgrade?
Did you root your phones?
Why don't you thyself just give it a try? Please move this to Legend general...?
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Maces_Leo said:
Hi, my device is still on 43.0001.
Is it possible to root my device without downgrade?
Did you root your phones?
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Hey I already tried rooting and it gets stuck at
43 main version error with modaco rooting guide.
So I'm assuming i have to downgrade to 1.31.
Oh and I have no clue how to move a thread in xda.
Have you had any joy with downgrading/rooting?
Im in the same exact boat as you myself and I dont seem to be having any luck with the downgrade ;(
No luck with straight rooting. I'm going to downgrade
then root.
If you have any luck with downgrading using the guide on this forum let me know as im having no joy.
Im in the same boat as you, same software and bootloader but the downgrade doesnt seem to play nicely ;(
Few days ago i've downgraded (from 2.05 to 1.31) and rooted my girlfriends phone, no problems at all. Just follow the instructions and you'll make it.
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Yep I noticed your reply in the original thread, but i seem to be running into an issue that hasnt been brought up before ;(
Il keep trying!
Hmm. I will try it soon. Also must try the soft root method that
is out on the forum. Since it loses root once rebooted, I was
wondering if clockworkmod could flash a rom, probably not.

[Q] how about the IS root work going on?

The htc Thunderbolt has been rooted, and according to the new released kernel source code of IS, they both use the signed kernel and recovery.
Can IS be rooted by the same way?
Dose anybody root it successfully?
Sir, may i introduce you with the search button?
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The thunderbolt was rooted by downgrading to an older version of the software that is vunerable to an older, more common exploit. At the moment, we don't have an older version so we are tryign to find a new exploit
Is it possible for IS to be rooted or reflashed?
Will HTC become another MOTO?
We are sure we can, since its a software lock. Just don't know how. But they are sure trying to go that way
As I know, HTC also lock the Bootloader of IS. Even we make IS rooted, can we reflash it with another 3rd ROM?
Like we said, we cannot get to flash custom roms yet, as soon as we can bypass the hboot Sig check, we should also be quite close to the recovery possibilities.
But getting there requires the disabling of the security flag (sig check) and that happens to be about the same protection to get perm root. So getting root allows us (almost) to run custom roms in short.
thanks for your reply, thank you very much!!!!

I can't obtain root on vivid?

I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the CWM with the All-in-one-tool-kit. I am on stock and I want to remain on stock but I want to have root access so I can just get rid of all the bloat. I have gone through the all in one tool kit and ran the perm root and still nothing. Also went into CWM and went to developer and chose install su and superuser and still no luck.
What am I doing wrong exactly?
Have you posted in the all in one thread?
I rooted mine with WCX recovery didn't have any problems very easy to do....
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I obtained root on stock with the remove ciq option, I'm not on stock anymore, but it did root me.
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Why would someone need ROOT and remain on Stock??????
Tripsyou said:
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the CWM with the All-in-one-tool-kit. I am on stock and I want to remain on stock but I want to have root access so I can just get rid of all the bloat. I have gone through the all in one tool kit and ran the perm root and still nothing. Also went into CWM and went to developer and chose install su and superuser and still no luck.
What am I doing wrong exactly?
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Hey Why do you want to remain on STOCK???
If you would like to go full fledge on your phone with custom ROMS, OC , ROOT. Look for my thread here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1676977
You will not regret!!!!!! Because I did the same, I have root access, my phone is OC and a sexy DarkRaider customer ROM with Beats enabled, Swype to unlock and many more features!!!!!
Check it out, this might help you!!!!!
Make sure you have the HTC drivers installed, and HTC sync uninstalled.
You shouldn't have any issues, just make sure to follow every excruciating fine detail to the letter.
I ended up following the instructions here and got root. Running stock OTA Bell ICS with unlocked bootloader and root. Still S-ON.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26648223&postcount=40
Need of S OFF on HTC
mohcho said:
I ended up following the instructions here and got root. Running stock OTA Bell ICS with unlocked bootloader and root. Still S-ON.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26648223&postcount=40
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Hey Bro,
Since you have your HTC Vivid rooted already go ahead and do the S OFF!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26664032#post26664032
Check out for ma thread in the above link and it will geiv you a brief idea how to do the S OFF!!! Many has already done and none reported damaging the phone!!!
Hope it might help you!!!!!
priji85 said:
Hey Bro,
Since you have your HTC Vivid rooted already go ahead and do the S OFF!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26664032#post26664032
Check out for ma thread in the above link and it will geiv you a brief idea how to do the S OFF!!! Many has already done and none reported damaging the phone!!!
Hope it might help you!!!!!
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I know about that method. Just haven't had the need to S-OFF yet. I'm going to be travelling later this summer so I'll just let the dust settle with the ICS update first and then deal with S-OFF so I can use another provider's SIM.
Unlocked, rooted, S OFF, Custom Rom installed!!!!! VIVID
mohcho said:
I know about that method. Just haven't had the need to S-OFF yet. I'm going to be travelling later this summer so I'll just let the dust settle with the ICS update first and then deal with S-OFF so I can use another provider's SIM.
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Hey, S OFF is just needed to make sure that if you install custom ROM so that the kernels get flashed properly, it is not gonna affect anything else.
I have my Vivid fully Sim unlocked, rooted, S OFF and with Dark Raider Rom with Kozmick kernel OC at 1.4ghz with Swype to wake and its awesome!!
Just posted, felt like all who has vivid needs to get the full fledge of it!!!!!
gotta fix root on it. For now, download SU from here\
http://downloads.androidsu.com/superuser/Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip
put it on your external sd card. flash it in recovery.

Backup stock 4.4.2 ROM and apps/settings before unlocking/rooting?

I have been waiting for 4.4.2 before I rooted my One. Is there a way to backup everything before I do it? I know unlocking the bootloader wipes the phone, I am just trying to save the hassle of redoing everything if I can. I don't think there was a way to backup a stock ROM last time I did this.
This is my second One. The first was unlocked, rooted, S-off and running ARHD. I had a hardware issue and got the phone replaced via insurance (I bricked the phone trying to go back to stock) and HTC would not fix it because it was unlocked (should have kept my mouth shut!).
I am familiar with the tools to unlock/root my phone as of 4 or 5 months ago. Has anything changed or are there bettor tools/exploits now? I just want to run the stock ROM rooted and have no need for S-off.
Thanks in advance!
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You can temporarily boot into a recovery rather than flash it and make a backup from there, including your stock recovery. If your unlocking and rooting your one, why do you not want S-Off. It's a get out of jail free card when everything else fails
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