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I know the update was a security fix but am looking for a method to root while remaining as completely stock as humanly possible. I've never rooted before and am still completely stock now.
Best case scenario would be to gain root while leaving everything stock, boot loader, recovery, etc.. maybe even try one of them nice roms for the first time (i hear cyrogen is the best and yes I probably misspelled that)
Thanks
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There's a couple of tutorials about this in another thread.
If I were you i'd follow one of them and also install a custom recovery. Then play around all you like with rooted roms, stock, custom or otherwise. Once you have a custom recovery you can flash anything. The only down side is that you won't be able to install any OTA roms. But to be honest they appear on XDA in a format you can use on custom recovery way way before you ever receive an OTA notification anyway.
Then if you're sure you only want a stock but rooted rom, then install that and then finally flash the stock recovery back.
However if you're sure you don't want a custom recovery and only want root, you can follow the first half of the same tutorials.
I myself have an unlocked bootloader, but if I didnt, I would root, install a custom recovery and never look back. If anything ever happened to my device i'd just flash the stock recovery and stock firmware and send it back.
Ok, thanks!
That's good information but I'm unsure if I want to unlock at the moment. Thanks but I'll wait a little longer to see if a solution comes out that this my needs.
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viper2g1 said:
That's good information but I'm unsure if I want to unlock at the moment. Thanks but I'll wait a little longer to see if a solution comes out that this my needs.
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No, thats the point. You dont need to unlock to root OR put a custom recovery anymore. See here for example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=710842
So you can root, put on a custom recovery, try different roms and then go back to stock, rooted or not, without unlocking the bootloader at all.
I see what your getting at, that's what I was looking for but wasn't sure it was working for FRF91 the last few posts in that thread indicated an unlocked boot loader last time I looked.
I thought the update was to fix the security hole that allowed that
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I have read a lot of comments on the guide of how root the nexus without unlocking the bootloader and searched in other places but couldn't find an answer to my question...
I've got at&t version nexus unrooted and I updated it to FRF91 OTA.
can I use this guide to root it without unlocking the bootloader?
If I can, how do I do it? some people wrote that I need to use Passimg.zip
but I think It's for T-mo version only because at&t's version doesn't have the erf79 (I hope I wrote it right).
anyway I'm really confused. can someone please explain?
thanks
I've got at&t version nexus unrooted and I updated it to FRF91 OTA.
can I use this guide to root it without unlocking the bootloader?
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Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.
RashaMatt said:
Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.
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they should work in the same way as it did for FRF83 or FRF85B.. you could always try without harm
RashaMatt said:
Me too - same question... I didn't see any tuts for rooting FRF91 w/o unlocking the bootloader.
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this link: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=717870
is a guide of how to downgrade from FRF91 to FRF85 in an unrooted nexus.
that way you can use this tut and root it w/o touchnig the bootloader
EPE76 to frf85B
Hi,
I am back from frf91 ota to EPE76 by applaing passimg.zip. My question is how can I move to frf85B ? I've tried to download universal frf85B, change name to update.zip and go to recovery, but I only see exclemation mark. Please advise. Thank you.
So I'm wanting to install the OTA ICS update but it fails and I get the little red exclamation point when I try.. I am assuming this is because my bootloader is unlocked? I've been trying to find a way to install it but the only one I found was one requiring S-OFF which I don't have..
So basically my question is can I install ICS on my rooted unlocked bootloader?
If absolutely necessary I can always lock it, install, then re unlock it but that's such a pain.. AT&T gets on my nerves sometimes..
I am almost positive that you have to do the re-lock process unless somehow they found another way. You should probably read around next time. Most likely, someone has already asked your question.
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I've read quite a few threads but haven't been able to find anything.. and like I said, I did find one but it requires S-OFF and the juniper thing, or whatever to lazy to look up the name right now lol, is not released yet.. and I haven't been able to find another way to get S-OFF..
If you want ics that bad you have to do it like every one else here...there is no reason to whine cause your to lazy to relock the bootloader ..it take all of about three mins for me to relock mine ... and about 20 min to do the whole process...you don't need s off to get ics if your using the vivid or velocity. there's no place for lazy people here so please just do it like ever one else or do with out
I'm fully aware you don't NEED S-OFF to get ICS its the only way I have found to do it with an unlocked bootloader if you even bothered to read my post. And if your going to be rude and unhelpful stay out of my thread, people like you are why forums loose members. I simply asked a question I never said I was lazy and wouldn't do it I was simply looking for an easier alternative.
The S-OFF is obviously a mistake, because if it was S-OFF then you wouldn't have to do fastboot oem lock.
Yes, you have to relock the bootloader. Make sure you kept your unlock_code.bin or else you might not be able to unlock the bootloader again.
To be extra safe you should flash stock recovery before you do anything.
Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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becandl said:
Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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Yes you can currently root the official ota of ics.
becandl said:
Quick question going along with this, it may be stupid, I just wanted to make sure before I try anything: I'm currently on RumRaider and I want to switch to ICS. If I were to revert to stock and relock and then do the OTA update to ICS from AT&T, can I still get root with the same zergrush application or whatever that I used before?
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Your best bet is to relock the boot loader then run the ruu for the vivid then re unlock and do your flashes
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Hunt3r.j2 said:
The S-OFF is obviously a mistake, because if it was S-OFF then you wouldn't have to do fastboot oem lock.
Yes, you have to relock the bootloader. Make sure you kept your unlock_code.bin or else you might not be able to unlock the bootloader again.
To be extra safe you should flash stock recovery before you do anything.
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ccb101 said:
Your best bet is to relock the boot loader then run the ruu for the vivid then re unlock and do your flashes
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Hmm well OTA still kept failing for me, even after relocking the bootloader.. I ended up having to download the RUU from HTC Support and install it through my computer using HTC Sync.. which kinda sucked but it still at least installed ICS..
lmftmf said:
Yes you can currently root the official ota of ics.
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and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..
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and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..
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There are plenty of options out there. Since you now have an updated HBOOT, flash a recovery image and CWM a rooted stock ROM.
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Thanks for the help guys. I relocked the bootloader and ran the RUU, then did the OTA. After that I used the noob proof tool thing in the dev forums and installed the WCX recovery and then rooted with the same tool as well. Currently typing on it, and loving it!
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There is another way.
Iomega0318 said:
Hmm well OTA still kept failing for me, even after relocking the bootloader.. I ended up having to download the RUU from HTC Support and install it through my computer using HTC Sync.. which kinda sucked but it still at least installed ICS..
and what lol?! where, I haven't been able to root mine and the zergrush that I used for GB failed.. the only thing I have been able to find is this:
wcxxperia-nce.com/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=305
Which I am considering mainly because he almost doubled the proc speed..
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I was on stock ICS and was trying to root after unlocking my bootloader. I found that ROM developer pirateghost has a rooted OTA ICS ROM image you can flash. I was having he|| rooting my Vivid. I flashed his ROM and got what I needed. My Vivid rooted and still on ICS.
You can find it on goo.im here goo.im/devs/pirateghost/vivid
Aus_Azn said:
There are plenty of options out there. Since you now have an updated HBOOT, flash a recovery image and CWM a rooted stock ROM.
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Yeah I have been keeping an eye on WhildChild and he just realeased a new version.. So going to give that a try tonight, hope it goes ok, if not I'll be back lol..
daspazz said:
I was on stock ICS and was trying to root after unlocking my bootloader. I found that ROM developer pirateghost has a rooted OTA ICS ROM image you can flash. I was having he|| rooting my Vivid. I flashed his ROM and got what I needed. My Vivid rooted and still on ICS.
You can find it on goo.im here goo.im/devs/pirateghost/vivid
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Nice! Wish I found that earlier, right now I am probably going to use WhildChilds ROM since he has put so much into it and over clocked the kernel..
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the CWM with the All-in-one-tool-kit. I am on stock and I want to remain on stock but I want to have root access so I can just get rid of all the bloat. I have gone through the all in one tool kit and ran the perm root and still nothing. Also went into CWM and went to developer and chose install su and superuser and still no luck.
What am I doing wrong exactly?
Have you posted in the all in one thread?
I rooted mine with WCX recovery didn't have any problems very easy to do....
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I obtained root on stock with the remove ciq option, I'm not on stock anymore, but it did root me.
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Why would someone need ROOT and remain on Stock??????
Tripsyou said:
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the CWM with the All-in-one-tool-kit. I am on stock and I want to remain on stock but I want to have root access so I can just get rid of all the bloat. I have gone through the all in one tool kit and ran the perm root and still nothing. Also went into CWM and went to developer and chose install su and superuser and still no luck.
What am I doing wrong exactly?
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Hey Why do you want to remain on STOCK???
If you would like to go full fledge on your phone with custom ROMS, OC , ROOT. Look for my thread here :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1676977
You will not regret!!!!!! Because I did the same, I have root access, my phone is OC and a sexy DarkRaider customer ROM with Beats enabled, Swype to unlock and many more features!!!!!
Check it out, this might help you!!!!!
Make sure you have the HTC drivers installed, and HTC sync uninstalled.
You shouldn't have any issues, just make sure to follow every excruciating fine detail to the letter.
I ended up following the instructions here and got root. Running stock OTA Bell ICS with unlocked bootloader and root. Still S-ON.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26648223&postcount=40
Need of S OFF on HTC
mohcho said:
I ended up following the instructions here and got root. Running stock OTA Bell ICS with unlocked bootloader and root. Still S-ON.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=26648223&postcount=40
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Hey Bro,
Since you have your HTC Vivid rooted already go ahead and do the S OFF!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26664032#post26664032
Check out for ma thread in the above link and it will geiv you a brief idea how to do the S OFF!!! Many has already done and none reported damaging the phone!!!
Hope it might help you!!!!!
priji85 said:
Hey Bro,
Since you have your HTC Vivid rooted already go ahead and do the S OFF!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26664032#post26664032
Check out for ma thread in the above link and it will geiv you a brief idea how to do the S OFF!!! Many has already done and none reported damaging the phone!!!
Hope it might help you!!!!!
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I know about that method. Just haven't had the need to S-OFF yet. I'm going to be travelling later this summer so I'll just let the dust settle with the ICS update first and then deal with S-OFF so I can use another provider's SIM.
Unlocked, rooted, S OFF, Custom Rom installed!!!!! VIVID
mohcho said:
I know about that method. Just haven't had the need to S-OFF yet. I'm going to be travelling later this summer so I'll just let the dust settle with the ICS update first and then deal with S-OFF so I can use another provider's SIM.
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Hey, S OFF is just needed to make sure that if you install custom ROM so that the kernels get flashed properly, it is not gonna affect anything else.
I have my Vivid fully Sim unlocked, rooted, S OFF and with Dark Raider Rom with Kozmick kernel OC at 1.4ghz with Swype to wake and its awesome!!
Just posted, felt like all who has vivid needs to get the full fledge of it!!!!!
gotta fix root on it. For now, download SU from here\
http://downloads.androidsu.com/superuser/Superuser-3.0.7-efghi-signed.zip
put it on your external sd card. flash it in recovery.
I am trying to work out whether to OTA update to ICS or go S-OFF, unlock and load a custom ROM.
I'm currently running locked BL, S-ON, Stock 2.3.5 (Sense 3.0) ROM.
I have read up on downgrading HBOOT to get S-OFF via revolutionary but I got HBOOT 2.01.0001 and haven't been able to find any thread saying whether tacoexploit works. I know if I OTA upgrade to ICS, and HBOOT 2.02.0000, I will only be able to unlock BL via HTCDEV and will not able to get full S-OFF until someone comes up with a method.
I have unlocked and flashed custom recovery/ROMs/Radios etc. on ZTE Blade, ZTE Skate, Motorola Atrix and HTC Desire (damn, I love 4Ext) without any problems but still consider myself a noob because, well you know, if you don't build your own ROMs...
I still have about a year or so on the warranty and custom ROMs always seem to have some kind of problem. So I just can't make my mind up as to what would be the right move.
Please, any info, suggestions or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
gandalf_grey91 said:
I am trying to work out whether to OTA update to ICS or go S-OFF, unlock and load a custom ROM.
I'm currently running locked BL, S-ON, Stock 2.3.5 (Sense 3.0) ROM.
I have read up on downgrading HBOOT to get S-OFF via revolutionary but I got HBOOT 2.01.0001 and haven't been able to find any thread saying whether tacoexploit works. I know if I OTA upgrade to ICS, and HBOOT 2.02.0000, I will only be able to unlock BL via HTCDEV and will not able to get full S-OFF until someone comes up with a method.
I have unlocked and flashed custom recovery/ROMs/Radios etc. on ZTE Blade, ZTE Skate, Motorola Atrix and HTC Desire (damn, I love 4Ext) without any problems but still consider myself a noob because, well you know, if you don't build your own ROMs...
I still have about a year or so on the warranty and custom ROMs always seem to have some kind of problem. So I just can't make my mind up as to what would be the right move.
Please, any info, suggestions or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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you can always try run this downgrader here.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913 i would s off now because there might not be another exploit found for a very long time. you can always install a stock rooted rom through recovery. theres a thread on the development thread. thats if you still want stock rom.
gandalf_grey91 said:
I am trying to work out whether to OTA update to ICS or go S-OFF, unlock and load a custom ROM.
I'm currently running locked BL, S-ON, Stock 2.3.5 (Sense 3.0) ROM.
I have read up on downgrading HBOOT to get S-OFF via revolutionary but I got HBOOT 2.01.0001 and haven't been able to find any thread saying whether tacoexploit works. I know if I OTA upgrade to ICS, and HBOOT 2.02.0000, I will only be able to unlock BL via HTCDEV and will not able to get full S-OFF until someone comes up with a method.
I have unlocked and flashed custom recovery/ROMs/Radios etc. on ZTE Blade, ZTE Skate, Motorola Atrix and HTC Desire (damn, I love 4Ext) without any problems but still consider myself a noob because, well you know, if you don't build your own ROMs...
I still have about a year or so on the warranty and custom ROMs always seem to have some kind of problem. So I just can't make my mind up as to what would be the right move.
Please, any info, suggestions or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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The script and tacoroot exploit still work with HBOOT 2.01.0001, so you should be good to go.
naathaanb96 said:
you can always try run this downgrader here.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1705913 i would s off now because there might not be another exploit found for a very long time. you can always install a stock rooted rom through recovery. theres a thread on the development thread. thats if you still want stock rom.
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Yeah, that is my fear, it may be a long time before an exploit is found for the latest HBOOT. I also figure that there will never be an official JB ROM update from HTC for the beloved Inc S. While I have maintain my warranty for as long as I have, it does feel like the right time to fully unlock. My Inc S has never given me any trouble at all, so I'm not worried about losing the warranty. I just love the phone and want to keep it working well for as long a possible. ROM-wise, I think ARHD looks stock enough to be super stable and tweaked enough to be nice and slick.
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The script and tacoroot exploit still work with HBOOT 2.01.0001, so you should be good to go.
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Many Thanks for putting my mind at rest. That is what I needed to confirm before I started.
I did the downgrade from the latest ota and it worked perfectly
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I honestly can't believe I am asking such a rudimentary question with how long I've been here, but it's always been "htcdev root then s-off exploit" before.
Now though, I have the option of just simply installing Weaksauce to get a temproot... then running that Firewater adb script with that temproot to get S-OFF, essentially getting S-OFF without needing a (permanent) root first.
To be honest, the only reason I even want root right now is to install that app/patcher that removes the SD card restrictions KitKat added. Again, before since I had to use htcdev first I would root, then install a rooted rom, then get S-OFF, so I already had a permrooted rom before I gained S-OFF. If I already have S-OFF(that means I have full access to the entire flashrom right?), would I still not have root access because the rom itself doesn't give me that access? And if so, can I just modify a permissions file or something similar, or would I need to flash a rooted version of the stock rom? I know those exist, but since I just got this phone I don't want to heavily modify it's software just yet. I know it will still have bloatware, and as much as I hate it, almost all of it is uninstallable on the stock Sprint M8 rom (wish I coudl get rid of Sprint Zone and Sprint ID though).
Well, that, and the other reason is because this phone basically came out less than a month ago, and already had a firmware update from Sprint, it is sure to get more updates down the road. Would rooting and getting S-OFF prevent me from installing official updates? (I don't want to have to wait for a modified version to become available, and if I was going to go down that route, I might as well just use a custom rom). Or could an official update lock me back to S-ON and require me to run the exploit again (providing they didn't also patch said exploit in the update)?
Oh, and oen final thing, because I constantly hear that changing the battery (admittedly, not an issue with the M8) or doing this or that breaks Google Wallet for security purposes, would doing any of this stop Google Wallet and it's NFC features from working?
Weaksauce doesn't work on the Sprint M8.
And of course you can still take OTA updates while S-OFF (as long as your system is completely stock and you have the stock recovery).
Captain_Throwback said:
Weaksauce doesn't work on the Sprint M8.
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Oh, I was under the impression that it could
So then my only option is the htcdev unlock? I really want to avoid basically telling HTC "Don't let this IMEI have any warranty service" if I can. I still won't have any issues getting S-OFF if I use the htcdev method though, right?
Cyber Akuma said:
Oh, I was under the impression that it could
So then my only option is the htcdev unlock? I really want to avoid basically telling HTC "Don't let this IMEI have any warranty service" if I can. I still won't have any issues getting S-OFF if I use the htcdev method though, right?
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No, HTC Dev won't interfere with you gaining S-off.
So, does anybody know about the Google Wallet thing?
Cyber Akuma said:
So, does anybody know about the Google Wallet thing?
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What "thing" are you referring to?
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What "thing" are you referring to?
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Last line in my original post:
Oh, and oen final thing, because I constantly hear that changing the battery (admittedly, not an issue with the M8) or doing this or that breaks Google Wallet for security purposes, would doing any of this stop Google Wallet and it's NFC features from working?
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Google Wallet and all its features should work just fine.
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FinZ28 said:
Google Wallet and all its features should work just fine.
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Fin is correct, that was an issue with the EVO LTE when it first came out, people were not first disabling Wallet before they flashed, and this caused an issue with app reinstallation. I believe that was resolved many updates ago for wallet.
03orlandor6 said:
Fin is correct, that was an issue with the EVO LTE when it first came out, people were not first disabling Wallet before they flashed, and this caused an issue with app reinstallation. I believe that was resolved many updates ago for wallet.
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Thank you for the detailed response, It's a great help when people also explain why something does or doesn't work in some way.
So basically, to summarize, for a Sprint M8 I can only use the official dev unlock, and even the temporarily root methods don't work, but after I use the dev unlock I can run firewater to get S-Off?
I am going to have to install a rom with root access after I use the dev unlock though and not be able to rely on the Stock rom through aren't I? I can still get a rom that is 100% the stock rom, just with root access though, right?
Would I have to worry about anything or an OTA resetting me to S-ON? Especially if it can fix the exploit that currently allows for S-Off?
Cyber Akuma said:
Thank you for the detailed response, It's a great help when people also explain why something does or doesn't work in some way.
So basically, to summarize, for a Sprint M8 I can only use the official dev unlock, and even the temporarily root methods don't work, but after I use the dev unlock I can run firewater to get S-Off?
I am going to have to install a rom with root access after I use the dev unlock though and not be able to rely on the Stock rom through aren't I? I can still get a rom that is 100% the stock rom, just with root access though, right?
Would I have to worry about anything or an OTA resetting me to S-ON? Especially if it can fix the exploit that currently allows for S-Off?
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Yes, use HTC Dev to unlock, install a custom recovery, then flash SuperSU for root access. You can then use Firewater to gain S-off. You can stay on the stock ROM, just be warned that you'll get update notifications if you aren't on the latest OTA update. Having said that, you won't be able to install said update unless you reinstall the stock recovery.
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Having said that, you won't be able to install said update unless you reinstall the stock recovery.
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It's only the recovery that matters? Not the S-Off or having Dev unlock or anything else? And only for installing a stock update, not running it after it's been installed?
Isn't that easy to flash and re-flash? Can't I just easily re-flash back to a stock recovery, install the OTA, then flash back?
Oh, and can I lose S-Off in a future update or something this way? Or is it permanent once applied? (Although I know you can hex-exit the bootloader to make it look like it's still S-On, not sure if I want to do that since it sounds extremely risky).
Cyber Akuma said:
It's only the recovery that matters? Not the S-Off or having Dev unlock or anything else? And only for installing a stock update, not running it after it's been installed?
Isn't that easy to flash and re-flash? Can't I just easily re-flash back to a stock recovery, install the OTA, then flash back?
Oh, and can I lose S-Off in a future update or something this way? Or is it permanent once applied? (Although I know you can hex-exit the bootloader to make it look like it's still S-On, not sure if I want to do that since it sounds extremely risky).
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It's that easy, yes, and no, you can't lose S-off by applying an OTA update. Take a look at the thread in the link below for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2720558
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