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I fear that I will do something hasty like blow up my 8525 and go back to a razor and be done with it. Today, yet another let down, the 25th and no tilt, but I hear it will be out the 7th, oh wait maybe November or maybe Christmas. I have an idea, maybe all of those that are thinking of pulling another release date out of your ass you could show this message to a friend or family member. I say this because I would like them to break your fingers so you cannot type this **** anymore. Losing my f-ing mind in case you couldn't tell. Tired of waiting, and "officially" hate at&t.
If I end up getting a tilt I think it will be a giant let down considering how we have all built it up from all of the anticipation. Its kinda like hearing about a new movie and then finally seeing it and it sucks.
booo freakin hooo. Even if the Tilt was coming out today (09/25) it's not even noon EST and your complaining like a little kid. Go punch a pillow and wait like the rest of us.
I hope someone breaks your fingers so you can't type this **** anymore.
there was a story on CNN about people like this .. gadget fetish, to the point of it being an illness, they implied
i like electronic toys too, but i'm not quite ready to get violent about it.
i'm stuck using a 5 year old total POS nokia phone waiting on 8925, i'd be THRILLED to be using an 8525 in the meantime
I hope someone breaks your fingers so you can't type this **** anymore. [/QUOTE]
Like You? One thing I hate about the internet is everyones so far away. Times like this it would be so much nicer to be face to face, ya know. Besides *****, it was somewhat of a joke, Ill spare everyone the internet tough guy thing because its fun to come here but watch who you insult.
RacerX10 said:
there was a story on CNN about people like this .. gadget fetish, to the point of it being an illness, they implied
i like electronic toys too, but i'm not quite ready to get violent about it.
i'm stuck using a 5 year old total POS nokia phone waiting on 8925, i'd be THRILLED to be using an 8525 in the meantime
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I know what your sayin, I know I should be content with my 8525 i just cannot stand to wait. Maybe this is a lesson in patience for me LOL, I will try, sometimes you just gotta vent to your fellow ppc addicts
swtaltima said:
I fear that I will do something hasty like blow up my 8525 and go back to a razor and be done with it. Today, yet another let down, the 25th and no tilt, but I hear it will be out the 7th, oh wait maybe November or maybe Christmas. I have an idea, maybe all of those that are thinking of pulling another release date out of your ass you could show this message to a friend or family member. ..... Tired of waiting, and "officially" hate at&t.
If I end up getting a tilt I think it will be a giant let down considering how we have all built it up from all of the anticipation. Its kinda like hearing about a new movie and then finally seeing it and it sucks.
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Okay let me see if I have this straight:
1) you want to get a Kaiser
2) You are waitng for ATT to come out with one
3) You are loosing your hair and getting an ulcer because they cant pick what date they choose to actually deliver the aforementiond Kaiser
Would not the solution be to just go and buy one from one of the many people that are selling them now? I understand that you will have to pay more for it, but in the two months you are waiting for it I will have been using mine.
If it is a cost thing that keeps you from getting what you so badly desire then you have to take your share of the blame as when you made your purchasing decision you obviously factored in cost vs. wait time to get it.
Just my thoughts
swtaltima said:
Like You? One thing I hate about the internet is everyones so far away. Times like this it would be so much nicer to be face to face, ya know. Besides *****, it was somewhat of a joke, Ill spare everyone the internet tough guy thing because its fun to come here but watch who you insult.
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I was just quoting you buddy. Your obviously taking it to heart replying with an insult then saying "Ill spare everyone the internet tough guy thing" in the same sentence. Just silly web forum crap, don't take it so personal. Good luck getting your tilt.
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Okay let me see if I have this straight:
1) you want to get a Kaiser
2) You are waitng for ATT to come out with one
3) You are loosing your hair and getting an ulcer because they cant pick what date they choose to actually deliver the aforementiond Kaiser
Would not the solution be to just go and buy one from one of the many people that are selling them now? I understand that you will have to pay more for it, but in the two months you are waiting for it I will have been using mine.
If it is a cost thing that keeps you from getting what you so badly desire then you have to take your share of the blame as when you made your purchasing decision you obviously factored in cost vs. wait time to get it.
Just my thoughts
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Good points, although I should not be saying this but I have a friend at a at&t store who I refer allot of business to. I get these devices for literally next to nothing, prob like $0-$100 so buying an unlocked kaiser would not make sense. Just very frustrated.
vwremglx said:
I was just quoting you buddy. Your obviously taking it to heart replying with an insult then saying "Ill spare everyone the internet tough guy thing" in the same sentence. Just silly web forum crap, don't take it so personal. Good luck getting your tilt.
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No hard feelings, just misunderstood. Oh and that was not my idea of being tough hence my comments after.
i am frustrated, too. i have been waiting for what seems like an eternity, and since I lost my PDA at the end of August, I am having serious trouble waiting any longer. For different reasons, I need to wait for the tilt to come out before i rush out to get a TyTN II.
funny, the delay of the tilt kind of took some of the luster off the Halo3 launch for me, too. I mean, Halo 3 is amazing, but I have this yearning for a tilt that won't leave me alone.
swtaltima, i think you are probably getting a lot less sympathy/slack here than you might at other forums because so many people here already have the TyTN II. i mean when i read your posts, I recognize your frustration.
Does the OP infer that AT&T offically posted a release date for the TILT?
Really?
Because if not, they broke no promises. ****, it hasn't been announced yet, has it? I wish people would shut up about the 8925/TILT until they've at least publicly acknowledged it exists. What's worse is, if they released it today and all the bugs weren't worked out, you guys would be the first to ***** about it. They can't win.
If you're in such a hurry to get it, do like the rest of us and open up your wallet. The Kaiser's been available for some time now.
-Mc
I dropped by my AT&T store at lunch to see if they had the Tilt. The girl said she had been off for the past four days so she would go check with the manager. The manager came out with his 'catalog' book and looked it up and said, 'No, we expect to see it on 10/15'. I asked about the Moto Q9 Global and was given the same date.
Whether they are clueless or not, I don't know. I originally got a Blackjack back on the 11th just to tide me over until the Tilt came out. Thinking that 30 days would be plenty of time for it to show up now appears to be quite naive on my part.
McHale said:
Does the OP infer that AT&T offically posted a release date for the TILT?
Really?
Because if not, they broke no promises. ****, it hasn't been announced yet, has it? I wish people would shut up about the 8925/TILT until they've at least publicly acknowledged it exists. What's worse is, if they released it today and all the bugs weren't worked out, you guys would be the first to ***** about it. They can't win.
If you're in such a hurry to get it, do like the rest of us and open up your wallet. The Kaiser's been available for some time now.
-Mc
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i don't see any reason people can't express frustration. no one is saying AT&T made and broke any promises. Quite the contrary, people are saying there is no need for AT&T to be playing everything so close to the vest. I think people are saying they would like to know where things stand and would appreciate updates from AT&T itself instead of leaked news and rumors. it seems natural to me, as a consumer, to want this information. people are frustrated with AT&T mainly because of its poor track record in customer service and its slavish devotion to the iphone as opposed to "better phones", and as a result, people think maybe AT&T is holding the tilt back to squeeze out more iphone sales or even 8525 sales. maybe that is not what AT&T is doing, maybe AT&T is trying very hard to make sure the Tilt is perfect before it is released. however, i can see why people may be less inclined to believe that and more inclinded to believe that the lack of info about the phone and the lack of launch details were concious decisions made by AT&T to sell more phones.
i know i feel kind of bad every time i go into an AT&T store to check on the latest buzz about the release and see a customer with a clueless phone rep checking out the 8525. now i am not saying the 8525 is not a good phone, by all accounts it is a great phone. what makes me feel bad is knowing that the customer may very well prefer to wait for the 8925 if only the sales person told them about it. however, i never see any sales reps doing that.
Spoke to the sales rep that signed me up to AT&T a few days ago. He mentioned that the 8925 is gonna be so castrated, that if you pay hypothetically 399.00 for it from AT&T, you will get a phone that's worth 399.00. I will take an educated guess that they will remove the video conferencing ability, the Internet sharing function and any other, "Super-Phone" ability the kaiser may have that will keep AT&T from ripping off their customers.
To be honest, if you really want the Kaiser, then buy it. If you wanna wait, then wait for T-Mobile, since they are a much more honest company.
I'm sure whats happening right now with AT&T and the 8925 is, they are testing it on their network and finding that they need to remove certain features before they can release it to the public. As soon as they are confident that they won't be shooting themselves in the foot by releasing a "super phone", then they will release it.
Just my opinion, and only my opinion.
JB
You want it like the rest of us... it will come out when it comes out - Not much we can do here. I'm still stuck with my nasty 8125. It will be a great upgrade skipping the 8525 I'm sure.
You need something else to tide you over... For me, it's Halo 3.
swtaltima said:
I know what your sayin, I know I should be content with my 8525 i just cannot stand to wait. Maybe this is a lesson in patience for me LOL, I will try, sometimes you just gotta vent to your fellow ppc addicts
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fair 'nuff, i'm with ya brother. i REALLY want that damn thing too !
Yeah, i'm using my 3125 while i wait for the tilt to come out!!
I'd really just like a launch date so i know where it stands and i can stop obsessively checking forums for release news
Buzz313th said:
Spoke to the sales rep that signed me up to AT&T a few days ago. He mentioned that the 8925 is gonna be so castrated, that if you pay hypothetically 399.00 for it from AT&T, you will get a phone that's worth 399.00.
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How does removing the front (and useless, to me) camera count as "so castrated" ?
Everything I'm seeing implies that will be the only difference between ATT's and the twice-as-expensive unlocked Kaisers.
this thread is pointless... you are getting pi$$ed off over a release date that was never even given by ATT ... if you want a kaiser then buy one, if you want to get pi$$ed then get pi$$ed at the people who told you the incorrect release date... please DO NOT open another useless thread like this.... this is a warning... a good ole' fashioned banning will come next
I had this phone for almost two months now and I have not experienced anything that has turned me away from another HTC device. I purchased it with only 35mins of call time for only $210 and I believe its worth double that. My life has become more organized, I get much better reception, I can use the internet at decent speeds, hell and the video quality isn't that bad, i got TT6, and so on.
I've really enjoyed this device, xda, and the learning process.
i've paid 800 cdn when it first came out and dont regret one bit...yes maybe there are issues with the phone but which phone is perfect? its all about personal prefs and give and take..to me this phone is good and i can live with whatever wrong with it...having said that its not the perfect phone cuz everyone wants this n that...i'll still switch over to the x1 just because its new and id like to try it out...if its not good then i'll go back to kaiser...if kaiser isnt good...maybe i'll look into another machine...but a phone is a phone...its not perfect...unless we manufacture our own phones
Since most forums are essentially self-help groups, it's not such a surprise. When I think of my previous WM5 i-mate - the hourly soft re-sets, unreadable screen in sunlight, constant need to re-calibrate the screen, poor receptoion (even though at the time I thought it was the coolest thing) - I thank my lucky stars!
chuk
i agree, its not perfect and the camera is rubbish, i still have the hermes and i prefer the camera on that but, updated hardware and built in gps does it for me.
People should start complaining about things that matter!
I'm irritated on principle about the driver issue - I strongly believe they should have supplied whatever software support was necessary to get the best out of the hardware, because we all paid for the latter and we shouldn't have to get it working ourselves.
On the other hand, generally the performance is acceptable and as a whole the device works very well. I'd probably be more annoyed if I'd paid a lot of money for it, but as it was quite cheap for me I'm more than happy with it overall. But HTC need to take note of the driver furore and the damage it's quite fairly done to their reputation.
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Why does everyone appear to complain about their kaiser?
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I don't! ;-)
No, seriously: I thinks that's a false impression. In this forum you will find a lot of perfectionists who always want to get out the most of their phones. And even if they do, they still look forward in buying the next generation. At least that description fits me. ;-)
I don't complain about mine and I was one of the first people in my area to buy one. I Think someone cried wolf regarding the video driver and now everyone wants to be cool too. I would like to see them but my phone kicks other phones butts for breakfast.
I was perfectly happy with my 8125 (Wizard) until I saw Engadget's preview of the Tilt. I immediately pre-ordered it through AT&T Premier, and had it in hand on launch day. Even though I will probably buy the Xperia sometime next year, I am in no rush to get rid of my Tilt.
As a noob to the whole genre of ppc's... I have to admit from everything i have seen here at work with other pda's and ppc's, My tilt kicks the s--t out of the rest. I know there are complaints about the video drivers but f--k it, i didnt buy my tilt to watch videos... i bought it to take care of my daily needs for when i cant get to my computer....
Probably because it is human nature to complain......
I've had mine since the first of October 07, and haven't really had any issues.
I had to return it because the USB port died. Didn't really like the camera
until the hotfix came out, which pretty much fixed the camera issue for me.
Exactly... Ive upgraded like twice and got the fixes I wanted and I'll tell you I wont get rid of this phone for awhile.
I think the only real reason for a complaint is the driver issue...
people had expectations that the device would out perform a hermes for video playback because of the data sheet and the graphics chip. Then when people got it and it shuddered and such due to no driver support people got mad.
I understand, people bought the phone expecting one thing, spent a lot of $$ and it did not meet there expectations.
Maybe it was their bad for having expectations but, they were founded on qualcomms own marketing for the 7200 chip.
Oh I understand what you're saying about the driver issues, I'd be pissed too if I had bought for those issues. Its HTC/Qualcomms f--- up for putting out the ifo like they did. They have a right to be upset if they bought the phones expecting something that wasnt delivered.
No complaints on my side so far! XDA helped with any issues and couln't be happier. I too will look into the SE Xperia but the Tilt will stay
If it weren't for me finding XDA I probably wouldn't have figured out the possibilities of my tilt. And I have found some really awesome stuff for it.
Sure, I am annoyed that my Kaiser is not being all that it could be as its missing some drivers, but I still like it and don't think I have ever complained.
However, I liked my Hermes. If I had not broken it I would probably not have upgraded when my contract ends in June (I only want a 12 month contract max and am a student, so not a heavy spender and can't really afford £150 for the handset as well as the contract).
I see a note about a HTC Raphael - it might get me to upgrade, but then I might just ignore it as I don't dislike the kaiser. It's not like the Wizard which really annoyed me by the time I upgraded. At the moment the only thing I am interested in is moving to a rolling 1 month contract (which is not a bad deal) and I might buy the Raphael without a contract.
The tilt is the best phone i've ever had. Who says the camera is rubbish?! did you see the panoramic shots some dude took and posted here. Those are clear as crystal. I mean geez people want a perfect cell phone with nikon capabilities. People can't seem to remember that it's a PHONE!!.. if you look at how far we've gotten in technology it isn't a bad device. I personally won't get the Xperia. I'll wait for the next HTC launch. Videos play fine on my phone and I have full movies on my SD card and stream music and videos from my home pc with no problems. People just like *****ing. Like I said before nobody started *****ing until Bill Nye the Science guy started that driver post.
read my signature..
remember people... quest for perfection ends at you feeling empty and betrayed.
I have taken mine to Hell and back ...the fact that it still works is amazing
I realise it has some drawbacks..but I am fine with it. Not changing it anytime soon.
Im quite happy with my tytnII had it for six months now,it is a shame that the drivers are not there for the imageon card,mainly because im a bit of a gamer and was looking forward to seeing what it was capable of.
Unfortunately it seems its not upto much, the slow down on call of duty is laughable i think my nokia 6680 could out peform it.
That aside i am very pleased with it.
If it wasnt that i was put onto this site by someone i probably would have sent it back (HTC TAKE NOTE)...I got this phone free on cotract at the time they were going for £440 pound on ebay i would have been seriously pissed if id paid cash for it outright.
A set of drivers would be sooooo nice,so keep putting in the hard work those who are working on them,and thanks to xda devs a invaluable lifeline to many.
I want to take a second to introduce myself..my name is Eric
I was here awhile back, as a blackberry user
Now, as a "droid" user
Which form of a droid, yet to be determined.
I"ll spare the long story, I had 3 Nexus', had problems, still swear it is one of the most phenomenal phones, then I decided cause of all the hype and I wanted a large screen, and a black one, less rounded....got an EVO
Well, the phone is great. Sprint customer service.
I didn't hold tru to keeping a story short, but I will hold true to bashing a company. Let your mind do the guessing
So I decided to get a Nexus. I also read all the hype about the Vibrant. I went and got the Vibrant also since I had the money and read that it was spectacular and one of the only things negative is the plastic back and NO flash. Well a lot of phones have plastic parts.. It contributes to a beautiful phone, other parts are metal . Other glass
So I have both phones coming to me.
I asked others in forums if there were people who use two phones, short of people who make them use one for work and another for personal, and they say, NO, and the ones that do do it say it is a pain in the neck.
To make what was supposed to be this SHORT story end, could you please tell me what I could possibly do with two phones. I have asked myself that over and over, clearly the mind of a person who is not able to decide LOL
Which one is better If you are a mod you may have given me your advice in the past
The difference now is this. I hear that there are only several cases of the nexus left and once gone, ninety days from the day of last sale, , what is the correct phrase, customer service will stop (according to Nexus support NOT the ad)
He also said that HTC will handle warranty, but everything else, who knows
Which one should I keep if only one?
I feel the Vibrant. Other than updates (and if you have a spectacular phone, which is what the Vibrant is) there should be no differences, in fact, go with the phone with the most support correct.
I will post in the Nexus side also. Thanks
While there is no substantial dev community yet on the Galaxy S, I assume there will be very soon. Combine the fact that they're rootable with their amazing screen and great GPU, and you have a recipe for pure win.
I would personally keep the Vibrant if you don't mind the flimsier feel of that device. Plus, it's thinner.
Denise, my wife was a fun loving person but, for 2 years ago she got her psoriasis disease. It has broken out of one on the other day and no one knows why.
It has become so bad that they can barely walk. Her hands and fingers are affected. Depending on the load burst onto the finger and foot and start to bleed. Likewise, her complete head is affected and the psoriasis is partially 5mm thick.
It looks as if her head with a thick layer of stone coated.
She was already with many doctors and hospitals but nothing has help her.
The only thing that helps is our holiday in Spain by the sea. After the 2 weeks holiday, her skin looks so much better.
After we told them our doctor, he just said, "then they have to emigrate to Spain, if they want to get rid of their disease!"
It's really sad what the doctors say one instead of helping correct.
Of course we can not even emigrate just to Spain
For this reason, she remain only two possibilities:
1. longer make a holiday in Spain like 6 weeks
2. go to a special clinic, which is not covered by health insurance.
For both options, we do not have the money to do so.
I would like to send my wife to the special clinic, since it has focused on the psoriasis disease.
The cost of the stay in the hospital are about 4500 €.
For more Infos and Pictures look here.
If you want to help my wife and bring the fun loving person back, then donate something to support.
http://igg.me/at/psoriasis/x/5863092
I thank you for reading this and wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Best regards Denise & Chris (me)
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Chrack said:
Denise, my wife was a fun loving person but, for 2 years ago she got her psoriasis disease. It has broken out of one on the other day and no one knows why.
It has become so bad that they can barely walk. Her hands and fingers are affected. Depending on the load burst onto the finger and foot and start to bleed. Likewise, her complete head is affected and the psoriasis is partially 5mm thick.
It looks as if her head with a thick layer of stone coated.
She was already with many doctors and hospitals but nothing has help her.
The only thing that helps is our holiday in Spain by the sea. After the 2 weeks holiday, her skin looks so much better.
After we told them our doctor, he just said, "then they have to emigrate to Spain, if they want to get rid of their disease!"
It's really sad what the doctors say one instead of helping correct.
Of course we can not even emigrate just to Spain
For this reason, she remain only two possibilities:
1. longer make a holiday in Spain like 6 weeks
2. go to a special clinic, which is not covered by health insurance.
For both options, we do not have the money to do so.
I would like to send my wife to the special clinic, since it has focused on the psoriasis disease.
The cost of the stay in the hospital are about 4500 €.
For more Infos and Pictures look here.
If you want to help my wife and bring the fun loving person back, then donate something to support.
I thank you for reading this and wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Best regards Denise & Chris (me)
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Hi Chris,
I have had psoriasis for 20 years now but for the last 2 years I have been able to keep it under control. My heart goes out to your wife who has a very sever case of psoriasis. I have had 2 extremely severe outbreaks in my life where it covered over 90% of my body, but thankfully I am in a lot better place now.
By the way my doctor told me to moved to a Mediterranean country too, and guess what... I did! But even though my skin did improve a small bit I still couldnt get it under control until I did the following
1. sorted out my diet
2. added some supplements to rectify my nutrient deficiencies
3. make a few minor changes to my lifestyle to control my stress levels.
anyways I have a psoriasis blog over at bestdietforpsoriasis dot com where you can find exactly the 8 steps I took to get my psoriasis under control. I hope it can offer some inspiration to you and Denise.
thanks for reading and happy new year.
Best Regards,
John Redfern
I don't know if that's the correct forum to ask this, or if that's even warranted, but oh well...
I've been using Custom ROMs on my Nexus 4 since I got it back in 2013. There was a time in which I was able to donate some cash to the devs, and so I did. Alas, that hasn't been the case for quite a while. And thanks to the hard work of all the devs around here, my trusty Nexus soldiered on, giving me that "new phone" vibe years after it would've been recycled if it weren't for the efforts of our fellow friends here and elsewhere.
However, life happened and even a fresh battery isn't enough anymore. The Nexus 4 was never good on battery life, and right now I can't afford to be running out of juice and/or reaching for a charger all the time. So I'll have to buy a new phone. However, instead of selling or recycling my old Nexus, I would rather give it so development can carry on. It's still a very capable phone.
I have two. One is in perfect condition, the battery is around 70% I would say. The other, despite the screen being in perfect shape visually, have some touchscreen dead spots. Also, the glass of the back cover is shattered, and the battery doesn't last for too long. It can be used if you alternate between portrait/landscape to dodge the dead spots when you want to type something.
Should I junk it already/sell on the cheap locally, or would a dev be interested in those? If so, how can I reach he/she/them?
Thank you.
I think that you have a good idea man, if you have two devices, it think that you could give one of it to a developer to continue working on it, it could be a great action, it could be the best for the community bro