is the tmoblie hd7 going to support HSPA+?
No.
HSDPA only. That goes up to 3.6 Mbps I believe.
the one i handled is faster than my hd2, so i say yes.
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the one i handled is faster than my hd2, so i say yes.
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The specs say no, sorry.
show me the specs...i played with one and it's faster than my hd2, and i'm in a h+ area.
from xda, both phones have the same specs, and the hd2 IS h+ compatible
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2059&c=t-mobile_htc_hd2_htc_leo
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2659&c=t-mobile_htc_hd7
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show me the specs...i played with one and it's faster than my hd2, and i'm in a h+ area.
from xda, both phones have the same specs, and the hd2 IS h+ compatible
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2059&c=t-mobile_htc_hd2_htc_leo
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2659&c=t-mobile_htc_hd7
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You say "faster", yet speed depends on the browser, etc. Unless you actually did a mobilespeedtest.net, the only "speed" you're feeling is the new WP7 browser.
Anyways, look at any of the specs, WireFly for example (http://www.wirefly.com/catalog/t-mobile/htc/hd7-black/)
"Data Download Speed - 3G/EDGE/UMTS/HSDPA/HSUPA"
Ta-Da, it's not a 3.5G phone!
i don't want an e-penis contest. when the op gets the phone, they'll see it can handle h+, why would t-mobile go thru all the trouble of updating their data speeds and then release a phone not capable of that ?
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i don't want an e-penis contest. when the op gets the phone, they'll see it can handle h+, why would t-mobile go thru all the trouble of updating their data speeds and then release a phone not capable of that ?
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It's important for the OP to know that it DOESN'T have H+. If he buys it under the impression that it does, he would be upset to find out that it doesn't. Only a few new phones like the myTouch 4G are getting H+
don't go anywhere, i'll show you something...
here is a list of t-mobile phones capable of h+ http://www.bgr.com/2010/06/16/t-mob...-covering-25-major-cities-100-by-end-of-year/. why would the new phone be different?
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here is a list of t-mobile phones capable of h+ http://www.bgr.com/2010/06/16/t-mob...-covering-25-major-cities-100-by-end-of-year/. why would the new phone be different?
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hahah according to that, my Touch Pro 2 has HSPA+. False!
So once again, the HD7 does NOT have HSPA+. It would be listed in the specs if it did.
i've shown you all kinds of specs, i don't know what else to say. hopefully, the op will see that they WILL get h+ with the hd7. have a good night . btw, it's not in the hd2 specs about h+, but i bet i have H+!
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i've shown you all kinds of specs, i don't know what else to say. hopefully, the op will see that they WILL get h+ with the hd7. have a good night . btw, it's not in the hd2 specs about h+, but i bet i have H+!
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Okay, the "specs" you showed were...
- It felt "faster" (it's a whole different operating system.... and you think your HD2 has H+ also, so it should be the same according to you)
- Your PDA DB links, which say that it DOESN'T have HSPA+, "Cellular-Data_Links: CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA" for both the HD2 and the HD7
- A article that was already incorrect in stating that the Touch Pro 2 and HD2 have HSPA+.
According to the stores that actually SELL the HD7, it does NOT have HSPA+. Plain and simple.
lol, what i read is wrong, what you read is right. gotta love that! do you think the hd2 is capable of h+? but wait...it doesn't say that in the specs. now ask every t-mo hd2 on this site who lives in an h+ area if THEY have h+. see where i'm going...? then you said "oh wait, it SAYS my tp2 has it, but that can't be right, either." comical!
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lol, what i read is wrong, what you read is right. gotta love that! do you think the hd2 is capable of h+? but wait...it doesn't say that in the specs. now ask every t-mo hd2 on this site who lives in an h+ area if THEY have h+. see where i'm going...? then you said "oh wait, it SAYS my tp2 has it, but that can't be right, either." comical!
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Umm, how do you KNOW you have H+?
A little "H" on your status bar does not mean that it is HSPA+
And why wouldn't the specs say it if the phone actually has it? You're getting nowhere, you don't have PROOF. All you're basing your argument off of is how fast your internet FEELS.
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lol, what i read is wrong, what you read is right. gotta love that! do you think the hd2 is capable of h+? but wait...it doesn't say that in the specs. now ask every t-mo hd2 on this site who lives in an h+ area if THEY have h+. see where i'm going...? then you said "oh wait, it SAYS my tp2 has it, but that can't be right, either." comical!
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Here's a quote taken from one of the HD2 threads about HSPA+
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Actually I was digging on this a little more, and saw a thread on ppcgeeks about it that you had posted in lol.
Reading that and some others, it seems that there's a bit of confusion (I was too)...what Tmo has already enabled on the network now is HSPA 7.2, which is not exactly the same thing as the HSPA+ (theoretical limits over 54Mbps). HSPA+ is what's being tested and exists in a few cities now, more coming 2nd half of this year.
I've read confirmation that the HD2 is HSPA 7.2-capable, but I've found nowhere that says for sure that it's able to use HSPA+...lot's of speculation, no hard confirmation. I have however seen several indications that no phones in Tmo's current lineup have the HSPA+ secret sauce
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An "H" on your phone means that you're connected to a HSPA tower, not the PLUS. The difference between HSPA and HSPA+ is huge for data speeds, as he shows.
You're getting HSPA and HSPA+ confused.
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Here's a quote taken from one of the HD2 threads about HSPA+
An "H" on your phone means that you're connected to a HSPA tower, not the PLUS. The difference between HSPA and HSPA+ is huge for data speeds, as he shows.
You're getting HSPA and HSPA+ confused.
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This is correct I work for T-Mobile and this is not an HSPA+ Device
did you guys check the bgr link i gave? it says hd2 is capable of h+. i live in jacksonville, fl., which has h+. besides, this is about the hd7 having h+ , i posted the links to show that if hd2 is CAPABLE of h+, why wouldn't the hd7? but to clear up confusion, i have a guy from geeks that works for t-mobile, he's going to check tomorrow. i have a t-mo 5 mins. from where i live(where they have the hd7 already), i'm checking also. then we'll get this straight once and for all .
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did you guys check the bgr link i gave? it says hd2 is capable of h+. i live in jacksonville, fl., which has h+. besides, this is about the hd7 having h+ , i posted the links to show that if hd2 is CAPABLE of h+, why wouldn't the hd7? but to clear up confusion, i have a guy from geeks that works for t-mobile, he's going to check tomorrow. i have a t-mo 5 mins. from where i live(where they have the hd7 already), i'm checking also. then we'll get this straight once and for all .
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LOL I again work for them and have played with it since 11-01 and I assure you this phone is not HSPA + / HSPA only
well, a man admits when he's wrong, and i was wrong about the hd7 http://reviews.cnet.com/smartphones/htc-hd7-t-mobile/4505-6452_7-34195349.html#reviewPage1
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So, if TMO is going with 1700mhz for their 3G (whenever the hell that might be), my Kaiser isn't going to be compatible, right? Bummer. Hope I'm wrong.
will not be compatible
thats the very reason I left Tmobile...i no longer conider then a real carrier.
Any idea if my Kaiser would work on Verizon or another carrier?
I can understand t-mo's reasons for deploying 3g services on 1700mhz, better coverage within mast area and penetration in buildings.
UK is going through similar turmoil, Ofcom is looking into 900Mhz and 1800Mhz 2G networks being upgraded to 3G services if they dont take the 900Mhz range off Voda and o2.
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Any idea if my Kaiser would work on Verizon or another carrier?
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Not verizon, but any gsm service provider. ie:AT+T.
Read the 3g part of the post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1930269#post1930269
also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366634&page=14
I don't know where all these people are getting their proof on T-Mo rolling out 1700. Proof anyone? or just something you heard and thought you might repeat.
moddin said:
Read the 3g part of the post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1930269#post1930269
also
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=366634&page=14
I don't know where all these people are getting their proof on T-Mo rolling out 1700. Proof anyone? or just something you heard and thought you might repeat.
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http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/10/06/t-mobile-details-3g-plans/
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http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/10/06/t-mobile-details-3g-plans/
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http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9825328-1.html
This says 2100 which kaiser also supports. There are no hard facts these stories are like celebrity gossip that nobody cares about.
moddin said:
http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9825328-1.html
This says 2100 which kaiser also supports. There are no hard facts these stories are like celebrity gossip that nobody cares about.
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Yeah, nobody really cares because it's all good and fun until your phone doesn't work one day by surprise when you take it out of your pocket because they changed the bands on you. I don't worry about things like this either.
I am running Dutty's 6.1 Hybrid Rom and don't seem to be picking up the new 3G network in NYC.
I know in the UK there is a username and password. Does anyone know if that is the case in the US?
Also, I have the $5.99 plan, not the full blown $19.99 a month deal.....
Suggestions....
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Suggestions....
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Call T-mob tech support.
I just noticed that in the phone>settings>band that UMTS 1700 is not an option....
The phone's wiki says it supports it, is this a 'feature' in the Rom?
Kaiser doesn't support the US T-Mobile 3g band.
From the wiki
UMTS 1700 (Emobile-only)
What does Emobile-only mean?
T-Mobile US 3G uses AWS 1700, so you're out of luck on trying to get a kaiser to work on the newly launched T-Mobile 3G. As of this date, there are no smartphones released that will work on the T-Mobile US 3G.
Emobile is (I believe) a Japanese carrier.
ok first i think AT&T users have an issue with T-Mobile users cuz T-Mobile provides 3G on the 2100 band.
Second there was a claim in this forum somewhere that he was getting 3G signal on T-Mobile in Boston.
T-Mobile users if you get 3G connection please talk. AT&T users without T-Mobile service shush.
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ok first i think AT&T users have an issue with T-Mobile users cuz T-Mobile provides 3G on the 2100 band.
Second there was a claim in this forum somewhere that he was getting 3G signal on T-Mobile in Boston.
T-Mobile users if you get 3G connection please talk. AT&T users without T-Mobile service shush.
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Why would AT&T users have an issue if T-Mobile users are able to utilize 3g or not?
sangwich said:
ok first i think AT&T users have an issue with T-Mobile users cuz T-Mobile provides 3G on the 2100 band.
Second there was a claim in this forum somewhere that he was getting 3G signal on T-Mobile in Boston.
T-Mobile users if you get 3G connection please talk. AT&T users without T-Mobile service shush.
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This attitude will get you nowhere other than ignored. Don't make the assumption that just because someone uses AT&T, they are automatically wrong when it comes to other networks.
Anyone with real intelligence would just go to a T-Mobile store in NYC, find a phone that supports 3G, and look at the Band settings page to see which frequency it is running on.
As for the 3G guy in Boston, it is quite possible that a hiccup in the network caused him to jump on to an AT&T tower momentarily.
I think the At&t, lack of 3G issue is related to iPhones, regardless it is silly.
If anything people should argue the cost and terms of their contracts (in the US anyway.)
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This attitude will get you nowhere other than ignored. Don't make the assumption that just because someone uses AT&T, they are automatically wrong when it comes to other networks.
Anyone with real intelligence would just go to a T-Mobile store in NYC, find a phone that supports 3G, and look at the Band settings page to see which frequency it is running on.
As for the 3G guy in Boston, it is quite possible that a hiccup in the network caused him to jump on to an AT&T tower momentarily.
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well i apologize if my comment offended you but you shouldn't assume that i assume that someone using AT&T service is automatically wrong.
If you're trying to say I have no real intelligence, every T-Mobile store I've seen in Queens and Manhattan has dummy phones on display. There is no way to check the settings myself. I can ask the salesman or call CS.
Anyways 3G on T-Mobile isn't just on 1700Mhz. Its also on 2100Mhz
you may be right that the dude in boston jump on to an AT&T tower for a while. but you can be wrong cuz you don't know the details to T-Mobile 3G service. or maybe he didn't have a tilt and had the kaiser/tynt II from europe.
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well i apologize if my comment offended you but you shouldn't assume that i assume that someone using AT&T service is automatically wrong.
If you're trying to say I have no real intelligence, every T-Mobile store I've seen in Queens and Manhattan has dummy phones on display. There is no way to check the settings myself. I can ask the salesman or call CS.
Anyways 3G on T-Mobile isn't just on 1700Mhz. Its also on 2100Mhz
you may be right that the dude in boston jump on to an AT&T tower for a while. but you can be wrong cuz you don't know the details to T-Mobile 3G service. or maybe he didn't have a tilt and had the kaiser/tynt II from europe.
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Right because the tytn II is a completely different device than the tilt...
You need to research how the signals operate and why it utilizes two frequencies and maybe, just maybe, you'll stop making an ass of yourself.
CUSTEL said:
Right because the tytn II is a completely different device than the tilt...
You need to research how the signals operate and why it utilizes two frequencies and maybe, just maybe, you'll stop making an ass of yourself.
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well someone else in the forum mentioned the euro version has different band settings with a different frequency that works with the US T-Mobile 3G network.
jesus you people are way too sensitive.
sangwich said:
well someone else in the forum mentioned the euro version has different band settings with a different frequency that works with the US T-Mobile 3G network.
jesus you people are way too sensitive.
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Maybe you're just way too dumb?
smh... im just repeating what other people say in this forum.
you just got too must estrogen running in your system.
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im just repeating what other people say in this forum.
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Ah, the "Oh, well, I heard it from so-and-so, which means it it ain't MY fault if I'm wrong" excuse.
edgie168 said:
Ah, the "Oh, well, I heard it from so-and-so, which means it it ain't MY fault if I'm wrong" excuse.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=389944 last post asshole.
So T-Mobile is such a ghetto-fabulous company that they don't even give you live demos to play with? I mean even Sprint, who Deutsche Telekom is considering buying, gives you live phones to play with.
I'm not sure why my post was deleted, but I'm the guy from boston that posted about my phone jumping to 3g. The reason I posted was because this past friday night(May 2nd 2008), at around 11:30pm, the icon on my phone jumped to 3g. Normally, this only happens for a second, then the carrier info will say AT&T 3G, then I get no service. However, this time, the icon said 3G, and my carrier info still said T-mobile. It stayed that way for about 45 minutes or so.
I'm using an unlocked at&t tilt and a WM6.1 Rom from xda (I don't remember which one, but it's very light - as in, light on crap and unused features)
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I'm not sure why my post was deleted, but I'm the guy from boston that posted about my phone jumping to 3g. The reason I posted was because this past friday night(May 2nd 2008), at around 11:30pm, the icon on my phone jumped to 3g. Normally, this only happens for a second, then the carrier info will say AT&T 3G, then I get no service. However, this time, the icon said 3G, and my carrier info still said T-mobile. It stayed that way for about 45 minutes or so.
I'm using an unlocked at&t tilt and a WM6.1 Rom from xda (I don't remember which one, but it's very light - as in, light on crap and unused features)
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So it would be safe to say your tilt jumped on TMO 3g 2100 freq. WOW!!!
I have a dilemma and I was hoping some of the senior member could give me a little feedback. I've been an ATT customer for years and today something unusual happened. I got a taste of 3g in my home area (york, PA) and it was delightful (i was giddy like a little kid with a new toy). Pretty much north, south, east and west of me has 3g, but not old york. I was about to do a speed test on my laptop, after some browsing and funking around with my phone, but then it went back to edge . I've been waiting a while for 3g access and it seems klike I'm never going to get it, so I'm considering moving to another carrier. Do you guys have any suggestions or any feedback you can give me about your carriers, (US only please).
Yes, Change carriers., Because T-Mobile JUST released 3G in New York. So your town will get it in no time.
That doesn't leave much.
Now since you are posting this in the Kaiser Section, I'm going to assume you run a Tilt. The Tilt is a GSM phone, you have two choices for GSM service. AT&T and T-Mobile. Which means AT&T, unfortunately, is your best bet.
I'm in york, Pennsylvania so that won't really help but thanks. It seems like I do have 3G because my coworkers phone says 3G now. but it keeps switching back to edge. Also is there a way to get it to say 3g instead of the little h symbol?
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I'm in york, Pennsylvania so that won't really help but thanks. It seems like I do have 3G because my coworkers phone says 3G now. but it keeps switching back to edge. Also is there a way to get it to say 3g instead of the little h symbol?
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"H" Is 3.5G. Or more specifically If it says "H" you have better then 3G.
But to answer your question directly.
If you have Advanced Config Look in there under Data Connections for HSDPA Icon, and Disable it.
Also, don't complain to much about switching between 3G and Edge. There are some Senior Member that don't have 3G at ALL, right Scotchua?
so H is really better than 3G
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so H is really better than 3G
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Yes it is. AT&T hypes "3G" because it is a recognizable buzzword, but "H" is above 3G in speed.
hi all, I bought a TOB locked device which worked finme on TMOB, getting 3g and H all the time. i had to move to AT&T so I unlocked the device (thru TMOB) and got the appropriate service at AT&T. But my device only shows EDGE. Card shows 3g in an iphone so it isnt that. Anyone know why im only getting EDGE???
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hi all, I bought a TOB locked device which worked finme on TMOB, getting 3g and H all the time. i had to move to AT&T so I unlocked the device (thru TMOB) and got the appropriate service at AT&T. But my device only shows EDGE. Card shows 3g in an iphone so it isnt that. Anyone know why im only getting EDGE???
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ATT and TMobile use different 3g bands so EDGE is all you will ever get. Same thing happens in reverse until there are phones that support both sets of bands (not likely).
well thats just GREAT!!
thanks. have to port to t-mob again!
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ATT and TMobile use different 3g bands so EDGE is all you will ever get. Same thing happens in reverse until there are phones that support both sets of bands (not likely).
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To expand on what you said, they use different 3G bands AND the hardware that is able to talk to said bands is exclusive to both AT&T and T-Mobile TP2 phones. There is a physical hardware difference between the two, so upgrading to a different radio will not allow you use your T-Mobile TP2 on AT&T's 3G network, either.
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To expand on what you said, they use different 3G bands AND the hardware that is able to talk to said bands is exclusive to both AT&T and T-Mobile TP2 phones. There is a physical hardware difference between the two, so upgrading to a different radio will not allow you use your T-Mobile TP2 on AT&T's 3G network, either.
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In other words, do a bit more research on these phones before you jump ship on carriers!
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In other words, do a bit more research on these phones before you jump ship on carriers!
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Aye. It's like with my wife. She has a G1 right now with T-Mobile. However, her friend has a MeToo (iPhone) with AT&T. Of course, she wants the iPhone now and told me that other day that she can get one that is already unlocked for use with other carriers. I had to explain to her that I would get her the iPhone if she wanted, but that she would NOT get 3G while on T-Mobile's network given the hardware constraints. She didn't say much after that.
Research is key. I see it every day in the NRG ROM thread. People see "Manila 2.5" and immediately grab that version. However, they fail to research and don't realize that Manila 2.5 is still in its beta form from HTC. They ask why certain functions don't work...they even seem surprised when they don't work. When explained to them that it is still in beta form, they quickly go back to lurking.
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Aye. It's like with my wife. She has a G1 right now with T-Mobile. However, her friend has a MeToo (iPhone) with AT&T. Of course, she wants the iPhone now and told me that other day that she can get one that is already unlocked for use with other carriers. I had to explain to her that I would get her the iPhone if she wanted, but that she would NOT get 3G while on T-Mobile's network given the hardware constraints. She didn't say much after that.
Research is key. I see it every day in the NRG ROM thread. People see "Manila 2.5" and immediately grab that version. However, they fail to research and don't realize that Manila 2.5 is still in its beta form from HTC. They ask why certain functions don't work...they even seem surprised when they don't work. When explained to them that it is still in beta form, they quickly go back to lurking.
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Yup I do agree some research is always good! But TP2 is worth it without 3G... I dont loose much by loosing 3G compatibility.
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Yup I do agree some research is always good! But TP2 is worth it without 3G... I dont loose much by loosing 3G compatibility.
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ditto on that, where I live we don't get stable 3g and when we do I don't notice any speed advantages. When I drive to atlanta where they have a stable 3G I only noticed that google maps DIDN"T like to even connect at 3G. And I wasn't really using anything else while there, I actually disabled the stupid 3G radio on my pantech just so I could use google maps. Sooo... never really had it anyway and got tired of waiting for ATT to drop their TP2 or even the TD2. bought a TM TP2 and I've been in heaven ever since. Phooey 3G... who needs ya? I got WiFi and edge is fine for whatever else I need on the road.
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Yup I do agree some research is always good! But TP2 is worth it without 3G... I dont loose much by loosing 3G compatibility.
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I agree! I followed you here from kaiser! I love my tmobile tp2 on ATT... no need for 3g Shall u be cooking an amazing rhodium rom anytime soon????
conceptcar3 said:
I agree! I followed you here from kaiser! I love my tmobile tp2 on ATT... no need for 3g Shall u be cooking an amazing rhodium rom anytime soon????
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Hey guy! Good to see you here....I just started cooking my own ROM's, not sure if I will release them though!
Yea 3G will be nice, but not a necessity! LOL
thanks to all of you for making me feel so good. its no issue to return to tmob just time!!
i've been with tmobile forever and this is my first taste of 3g, and i gotta say, i was much more excited about it than actually having it. i get 3g in my area and it makes nearly no difference in what i do with opera mini.
espn will load a hair faster and i finally get a good slingbox stream, but other than that, i wouldn't die if i had to go back to edge
bravo261 said:
i've been with tmobile forever and this is my first taste of 3g, and i gotta say, i was much more excited about it than actually having it. i get 3g in my area and it makes nearly no difference in what i do with opera mini.
espn will load a hair faster and i finally get a good slingbox stream, but other than that, i wouldn't die if i had to go back to edge
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You will see a MUCH bigger difference when you aren't using a browser that compresses the data before it gets to your phone.
Opera mini does just that. Thus, you won't see much of a difference between Edge and 3G. Skyfire also does it as well, I believe.
When you start downloading "raw" data, though, you will really see the difference in speed.
Ok, so the other day I visited an AT&T store, and while I was there I got talking with one of the reps there. We were talking about flashing different ROMS and such, when he showed me his phone. He was running a custom rom that he cooked up in the romkitchen. He then showed me his speedtest.net scores and they were off the charts! He was getting something like 9 Mbps down, and 30 Mbps upload speed! He tried to explain to me how he had done this, off the record of course, but I haven't been able to figure it out! If there is anyone out there who can help out an aspiring noob, I would really appreciate it!
its called HSPA (aka HSPUA and HSPDA for upload and download)
They probably also have a signal repeater or a microcell in the store too increase performance
yeah tricky a-holes... "see how good att reception is? ..... (in our store) "
Interesting, so I guess to simplify, captivate is still unable to access what AT&T calls "4G"? Also how would one know if they were accessing HSPA?
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Interesting, so I guess to simplify, captivate is still unable to access what AT&T calls "4G"? Also how would one know if they were accessing HSPA?
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The captivate us capable of hspa it just needs to be flashed to a different modem.bin that supports it
The signal icon at the top will say H instead of 3g.
As for 4g that will never work.
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Interesting, so I guess to simplify, captivate is still unable to access what AT&T calls "4G"? Also how would one know if they were accessing HSPA?
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where your 3G signal is it will have an H instead of 3G
TRusselo said:
yeah tricky a-holes... "see how good att reception is? ..... (in our store) "
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How much experience do you have with at&t as a provider? Or are you just regurgitating what you have read. Every carrier has their issues but you seem to have some deep seeded hatred for at&t.
@op, the captivate will connect to hsdpa just fine but the speeds the rep was getting are not possible.
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How much experience do you have with at&t as a provider? Or are you just regurgitating what you have read. Every carrier has their issues but you seem to have some deep seeded hatred for at&t.
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most people do. one of the things im starting to have a problem is is with their rates when everyone else is becoming fairly cheap. other than that ive been with them since cingular...
bignate78 said:
most people do. one of the things im starting to have a problem is is with their rates when everyone else is becoming fairly cheap. other than that ive been with them since cingular...
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They actually lowered my monthly rate a couple months ago. I was shocked. As for everyone else being a lot cheaper, I am not so sure. I have had Sprint, still have a Verizon plan, and recently looked into T-Mobile. In the end it comes down to coverage for me.
newter55 said:
They actually lowered my monthly rate a couple months ago. I was shocked. As for everyone else being a lot cheaper, I am not so sure. I have had Sprint, still have a Verizon plan, and recently looked into T-Mobile. In the end it comes down to coverage for me.
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well their prices(AT&T) are still higher than the other providers. unlimited data plans for $20-$30 when at AT&T you only get so much but get unlimited when on wifi....then again wifi isnt everywhere. i myself have almost the lowest plan with one of the lowest data plans and still pay almost $100 a month!....just sayin
Hey I appreciate all the input regarding my question, ive done quite a bit of reading on this forum lately and am learning a lot! So I guess my next question would be, what kind of speedtest.net scores would one get if connected to HSPA?
HSPA that Att is deploying currently is limited to 14.4Mbps. Real world speeds up to ~12Mbps. The captivate does NOT have HSPA, only 7.2Mbps HSDPA.
dillonc said:
Hey I appreciate all the input regarding my question, ive done quite a bit of reading on this forum lately and am learning a lot! So I guess my next question would be, what kind of speedtest.net scores would one get if connected to HSPA?
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I realize that there is probably a post regarding these scores already, however if somebody could point me in the right direction i would really appreciate it!
That's why I have straight talk. $45/mo unlimited everything with att service!
When my phone says H, I average about 3mbps dl
my favorite part of this whole thread is that nobody even questions the speeds that the OP posted.....
those speeds are impossible on ATT cell network, period. sounds like he was on wifi in the store.
pirate. Microcell and speeds not possible have been mentioned.
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pirate. Microcell and speeds not possible have been mentioned.
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i guess that was a reading fail on my part, because i never saw it when i read through the initial posts, yesterday.
Pirateghost said:
my favorite part of this whole thread is that nobody even questions the speeds that the OP posted.....
those speeds are impossible on ATT cell network, period. sounds like he was on wifi in the store.
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Its because everyone knows their BS
bignate78 said:
where your 3G signal is it will have an H instead of 3G
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Wireless network speeds depend on a number of variables. If you see the H, it just means the software is turned on in the tower you are connecting to. The faster speeds are dependent on whether or not there is expanded backhaul (fiber from the tower into the network) in your area. Until that's added, you won't see speeds above what you get from 3G. Of course geography, your location, number of people connecting to your tower, etc... also play a role.