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Silly noob-like question, but I wanted to make sure before I continued messing with my phone.
Does ROM Manager back up EVERYTHING on the phone? For example, I backup my rom. Move the backup file onto my pc. Then I screw around with roms, lag fixes, etc. and totally screw it up. If I "restore" the backup made by ROM Manager, will all my apps, settings, desktop, data files, etc be exactly as they were before I started screwing around?
Or, would I need to use Odin to load the same ROM as that which was backed up and then run Rom Manager Restore?
Thanks!
Yes it does
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Here's another question regarding this thread:
I have the lagfix mod which uses the internal sdcard. When I create a backup will it and restore exactly how it was including the lagfix partition? If yes, is it the same procedures or do I have to do it a different way with the extra partition?
Thanks in advance.
Deca4 said:
Here's another question regarding this thread:
I have the lagfix mod which uses the internal sdcard. When I create a backup will it and restore exactly how it was including the lagfix partition? If yes, is it the same procedures or do I have to do it a different way with the extra partition?
Thanks in advance.
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Actually I am trying to figure out the same thing. I made a backup before I started messing around with lag fixes, different roms and so forth. Then the other day I tried to restore a rom it didn't work. Eventually I soft bricked the phone and had to make the USB Jig to get it working again. Needless to say I am very intrigued with what exactly Rom Manager does backup and its limitations but I can't seem to find it anywhere. I am thinking the reason my backup was screwed up was because of a lag fix, only problem is I can't remember what lag fix I had on it when I did the initial recovery.
Something from my experience to add here:
Scenario 1:
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I backed up the original 2.1 JH7 on my phone.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM, and played around with it.
Backed up 2.2 ROM.
Messed up with my 2.2 custom ROM.
Went to ROM manager recovery, and recovered the backed up 2.1 JH7, and ended up messing up. My phone didn't even boot up.
Then I went back to recovery, and tried restoring the backed up version of 2.2.
Phone booted up into 2.2, but, started giving a lot of FCs.
Scenario 2:
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Installed 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Backed it up.
Messed it.
Restored it - worked fine.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM 2.
Backed it up.
Restored the 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Everything working fine.
Looks like as long as the core OS is of the same version, it seems to work.
Maybe there is something in the boot sequence that's probably not being restored (???)
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Edit: I do not have CWM app installed. I use the CWM update.zip recovery manager since its the least intrusive way.
diablo009 said:
Something from my experience to add here:
Scenario 1:
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I backed up the original 2.1 JH7 on my phone.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM, and played around with it.
Backed up 2.2 ROM.
Messed up with my 2.2 custom ROM.
Went to ROM manager recovery, and recovered the backed up 2.1 JH7, and ended up messing up. My phone didn't even boot up.
Then I went back to recovery, and tried restoring the backed up version of 2.2.
Phone booted up into 2.2, but, started giving a lot of FCs.
Scenario 2:
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Installed 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Backed it up.
Messed it.
Restored it - worked fine.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM 2.
Backed it up.
Restored the 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Everything working fine.
Looks like as long as the core OS is of the same version, it seems to work.
Maybe there is something in the boot sequence that's probably not being restored (???)
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Edit: I do not have CWM app installed. I use the CWM update.zip recovery manager since its the least intrusive way.
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Interesting, it would makes sense in what you are saying. My error that I go was when I went from my original JH7 backup, installed a rom based on JH6 and then tried to install my original backup. I might have to try JH6 roms and see if I can restore to them easily or not. I will have to wait for Micro USB cables to come in as I don't have a spare since I used my only cable to make the JIG.
The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
I herd a rumor that rom manager doesn't work with froyo on the captivate. But I could be totally wrong.
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peachpuff said:
The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
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This is what I have read about it as well
Voodoo
There is also a different version of CWM Recovery (what Rom Manager uses to back things up) for the voodoo lag fix.
tnerb123 said:
I herd a rumor that rom manager doesn't work with froyo on the captivate. But I could be totally wrong.
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It works. I backed up and restored a few variants of Froyo ROMs.
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The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
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How do I backup these? Is there any way?
If Ron Manager does backup the kernel and modem why would so many people have problems restoring back to different Roms? This is why I am so puzzled with this software.
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Rom Manager can backup EFS folder ??
i lost my imei and the only backup that i have its from Ron Manager
Absolutely it does there!
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but best bet is backup from recovery. Saves everything down to browser login data. Can't go wrong with a full backup! I make one every time I flash just about anything.
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Rom Manager vs CWM Recovery
yes Rom Manager can do backup of phone..but why not just do
a Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery..
never had problem with Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery :victory:
dobi3 said:
yes Rom Manager can do backup of phone..but why not just do
a Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery..
never had problem with Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery :victory:
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Agreed!
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im using the cdma hero with fresh 2.4 rom on it i wanted to move to the new cm6.0.
and i assume the nightly rom on the cm site is for my phone...right? buttttt
i deleted the files for what i believe is my nandroid back up and apparently never put them on my computer....is there a way to get around this? or am i screwed?? do i have to unroot? then root, flash?
is there a 1 click root?
AND idk how to get out of root..so a link to a guide or maybe a quick way to do it would be nice...thank you for all the help. if you need more info in order to assist ill be glad to tell you.
I'm confused. Did you already flash CM6 or do you want to? If you haven't why don't you just do another nandroid backup. If you already flashed CM 6 and are trying to get back to Fresh, then you are SOL.
Yes, there is a 1-click root, but I forgot where I saw it at.
Thread moved in Hero CDMA Q&A.
Well I'm on fresh right now. I want to move to cm 6. Do I always have to do a nandroid restore when flashing a new Rom? I assumed you did.
But I cannot do a nandroid restore bc it tell me "cannot open directory no files found"
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crazyninjah1992 said:
Well I'm on fresh right now. I want to move to cm 6. Do I always have to do a nandroid restore when flashing a new Rom? I assumed you did.
But I cannot do a nandroid restore bc it tell me "cannot open directory no files found"
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No these are the steps to move to cm6
1. Nandroid backup (when people say nandroid first they mean a backup).
1.5 update your prl, radio, profile if they are out of date (optional)
2. wipe dalvik and factory wipe phone.
3. flash new rom.
4. enjoy.
Here are the CM6 nightlies for the CDMA Hero. If you perform a nandroid backup you are copying your system in the exact state that it is so that if something happens you can revert back to it. When you perform a nandroid restore you are reverting back to the state at which you ran the nandroid backup. Most people recommend doing a nandroid backup before flashing a new rom. You do not do a nandroid restore when flashing a new rom. Just make sure you do a full wipe and wipe dalvik before flashing a new rom.
Ooh okay wow that's gonna help! can i update the prl and all that by just going system updates? and updating there?
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thank you!
am i better off downloading the cm 6 rc1 froyo build? thats more stable then the nightlies? ccan i use rom manager to update the nightly?
crazyninjah1992 said:
Ooh okay wow that's gonna help! can i update the prl and all that by just going system updates? and updating there?
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Yes but only in Sense Roms CM6 and AOSP roms dont have this functionality (keep your last fresh nandroid for this purpose). Before you move to CM6 update all of that and then flash CM6. Then anytime you need to update any of that stuff in the future (prl, pri, profile) you can do a nadroid and then go back to your Fresh backup and restore then update it and then restore back to cm6.
okay! thank you very much!
and the nightlies? i dont mind using experimental roms as long as i can use like rom manager to just update it i dont wanna flash a new rom every day..
Hello,
Today I decided to flash my rom and I have just chosen the new Cognition 4 to go with. My Captivate has the default 2.1 firmware, and the only thing I did was rooting and installing a lagfix. The problem is that I can't remember which lagfix it was and no matter what I try, I can't disable it.
It's probably not Voodoo since I there is no Voodoo folder (and creating one and putting the disable-lagfix folder in it does nothing) on my internal sd, and there's no app to allow me enable/disable it. The only thing that makes me sure I still have is the high Quadrant score I keep getting.
Can you guys help me out on this?
Under settings, my kernel version is:
2.6.29
jetaek.lee (at) sep-11 #2
Sorry if this is a silly or dumb question. But I have been trying for a couple hours.
Thanks a lot.
bardomudo said:
Hello,
Today I decided to flash my rom and I have just chosen the new Cognition 4 to go with. My Captivate has the default 2.1 firmware, and the only thing I did was rooting and installing a lagfix. The problem is that I can't remember which lagfix it was and no matter what I try, I can't disable it.
It's probably not Voodoo since I there is no Voodoo folder (and creating one and putting the disable-lagfix folder in it does nothing) on my internal sd, and there's no app to allow me enable/disable it. The only thing that makes me sure I still have is the high Quadrant score I keep getting.
Can you guys help me out on this?
Under settings, my kernel version is:
2.6.29
jetaek.lee (at) sep-11 #2
Sorry if this is a silly or dumb question. But I have been trying for a couple hours.
Thanks a lot.
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The only way you are gonna be sure to remove it is by doing a master clear, and yes it will delete all data.
zelendel, thanks. But I can still use Titanium Backup to backup my apps, right?
bardomudo said:
zelendel, thanks. But I can still use Titanium Backup to backup my apps, right?
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Yep, otherwise it's a long day downloading one at a time.
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bardomudo said:
zelendel, thanks. But I can still use Titanium Backup to backup my apps, right?
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Yes you can use it to back up user apps and data. Just dont back up system data as when it is restored system data tends to cause issues
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bardomudo said:
Hello,
Today I decided to flash my rom and I have just chosen the new Cognition 4 to go with. My Captivate has the default 2.1 firmware, and the only thing I did was rooting and installing a lagfix. The problem is that I can't remember which lagfix it was and no matter what I try, I can't disable it.
It's probably not Voodoo since I there is no Voodoo folder (and creating one and putting the disable-lagfix folder in it does nothing) on my internal sd, and there's no app to allow me enable/disable it. The only thing that makes me sure I still have is the high Quadrant score I keep getting.
Can you guys help me out on this?
Under settings, my kernel version is:
2.6.29
jetaek.lee (at) sep-11 #2
Sorry if this is a silly or dumb question. But I have been trying for a couple hours.
Thanks a lot.
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You can also flash back to stock with Odin (with a master clear after of course just for good measure). That will remove your lagfix too. Just be sure to save your titanium backup file to your EXTERNAL Sd before doing the master clear, or you will loose all your backups you just created.
Thanks a lot everyone. I did a master clear (didn't install odin, though, since I was already on 2.1 stock) and everything went great.
I'm kinda disappointed with the Cognition 4, though. The phone is only slightly faster and smoother, even my Quadrant score is lower (by about 600 points) than it used to be on Eclair. But hey, at least it's froyo.
With the official 2.2 out, should I bother updating or am I better with Cognition 4?
I seem to have a recurring problem with my root on the FireFly 2.8 rom, though it may have been present on Serendipity and I never noticed.
My problem is this: Before I flashed FireFly, I used Odin to revert to stock 2.1, master cleared, and then rooted using the One Click Galaxy S root, which worked fine. I was able to flash the rom using CWM and Titanium Backup as well as other apps that require root said they had proper permissions.
At some point, I do not know where, I lost my root. Now, when I try to use Titanium Backup or Firefly fixes, the app tells me Root access FAILED.
I have superuser as well as the current busybox. Can anyone help me with possibly telling me how to enable my root or how to reroot if necessary?
I have tried z4root but it never does anything anymore.
And when I try to use the One Click Root again I can not click "reinstall packages" because I am taken to CWM instead of regular recovery.
Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
You probably converted system to ext4. Go back into Recovery and go to the features of whatever kernel u are using and reapply root.
Sent from my Captivate running Continuum 4.0 with Onix 2.0.5.
I was neveraware you had to reroot after converting the system to EXT4. Worked like a charm though! Thanks for your help.
#1 in CWM "reinstall packages" is the 2nd option down! called "apply update.zip" (kinda makes sense doesnt it?)
#2 if you have CWM you can root without one click root.
boot to CWM recovery> Clockwork Features > root + install superuser
adv
Edit: Nevermind, looks like someone already solved your problem while I was typing my BS out.
skrallbro said:
I was neveraware you had to reroot after converting the system to EXT4. Worked like a charm though! Thanks for your help.
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You don't normally have to....
I has this same problem with FireFly 2.8. I never had that issue with older versions of FF. But, as mentioned, if you reapply root in CWM, it works again.
I love the FF themes, and stability, but I may go back to FF 2.6. FF 2.7 had charging death for me, and FF 2.8 I have issues with keep the lights on. That's how I found my root issue. Now, with the root fixed, keep the lights on seems to disable itself after a while. Definately after every reboot it turns back off. I never had this issue before with cog, perception, or any of the earlier FFs.
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Your rom probably came with a kernel that implemented lagfix upon first boot. It happens if you manually apply lagfix as well and re-rooting in CWM works like a charm all the time.
Elisha said:
Your rom probably came with a kernel that implemented lagfix upon first boot. It happens if you manually apply lagfix as well and re-rooting in CWM works like a charm all the time.
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All the FireFly versions I have used have the lagfix optional, and applied through CWM, but 2.8 is the first one that applying the lagfix affected the root of the ROM. I also didn't have this issue with Cognition or Perception, both of which apply the lagfix on first boot.
So the kernel is the issue, not the ROM? A different kernel may fix this?
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quarlow said:
So the kernel is the issue, not the ROM? A different kernel may fix this?
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Yes and no. losing root from converting system to ext4 or back to rfs, can happen with any kernel, and for the charge death that was the onix kernel in those versions. The keep the lights on, does that kernel have bln options in cwm? I use sp voodoo do idk.
i have never lost root converting my system
but i havent converted it in over a month. Just leave it EXT4 when i upgrade/change roms.
havent had any problems not converting it so i dont bother. (except going to stock)
but when i used to convert back and fourth every flash out of fear... NEVER LOST ROOT
I've only lost root converting on Continuum but never on FireFly or Apex so not sure if it is kernel or rom.
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studacris said:
The keep the lights on, does that kernel have bln options in cwm? I use sp voodoo do idk.
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Yes FF 2.8 has bln options in CWM. I have issues with bln active or disabled (in FF 2.8). I have not tried managing the bln with the app from the market, would that make a difference (vs managing bln in CWM)?
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First off don't shoot me. I am interested in getting Gingerbread on my Captivate or another good rom. I have been on the forum for a few years but have never done amything to my phone until now. I just rooted it and installed Rom Manager and Titanium backup. I have been reading so many threads that my head is spinning. There are alot of different roms available but I have no idea of which to use. Can someone please point me in the right direction to put Gingerbread on my phone? I have had this phone for over a year and am ready for a change without having to buy a new phone. I have never flashed a phone before but I have built my own computer, so I am not a total newbe and am not affraid to try something new.
My phone:
Firmware 2.2
I897UCKB1
Kernel 2.6.32.9
Build Froyo.UCKB1
Rooted
Rom Manager
Titanium Backup
Bang!
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ou812bkewl said:
Bang!
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Figures another Texan would shoot me. Good thing I am wearing my bullet proof vest today.
Thanks!
Lol, its cool man....any of the ops in each rom are very detailed in how to flash. Designgears have a great Odin oneclick to stock that's a must have in case something get borked. The Fasty GB roms are my favorite choice. Any of the KH3 roms wont disappoint. Make sure you use the correct bootloaders too. Happy flashing!!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7287634 check this out here for back-to-stock info. I would try CM7 since you already have some experience with it. They have allot of info in their thread in the Dev forum. That is what I run and I like it because I didn't have to flash bootloaders and its one of the simplest to install. Is your captivate running stock 2.2?
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Not difficult at all:
*download ODIN 1.81 on your pc
*download latest KI2 stock ginger rom from the dev forum
*back up your apps etc using titanium backup to external sd card
*perform factory reset on cappy
*open ODIN and place downloaded .tar file that u downloaded earlier in "PDA" section
*turn off phone and hold vol up&down while turning on to start download mode
*plug phone in usb cable hooked to computer
*say a small prayer, lol
*once connection is established, press start on ODIN
*when flash is completed phone will reset, u may unplug usb cable when u see the ATT screen on phone
*that's it, if your successful then u can perform root, which is done differently than 2.2, so be prepared, I can PM u or respond here to tell u how if your successful with the gingerbread flash.
Good luck, and remember, bootloaders will be flashed, so there is an outside chance to screw your phone, so proceed with caution.
If I use Titanium Backup then don't I need to be rooted in order to restore my apps and contacts?
ou812bkewl said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7287634 check this out here for back-to-stock info. I would try CM7 since you already have some experience with it. They have allot of info in their thread in the Dev forum. That is what I run and I like it because I didn't have to flash bootloaders and its one of the simplest to install. Is your captivate running stock 2.2?
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Duh! Read the OP stupid! (Schizophrenic humor) Ok. Remember CM7 might not have the best battery life but I have always seen it as the least risky way to get GB running on the Captivate because you're not flashing bootloaders that are different from what you already have with stock 2.2 . The ONLY time I ever hard bricked was when attempting to flash GB bootloaders over Froyo bootloaders. Just be careful.
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LBCaptivate said:
If I use Titanium Backup then don't I need to be rooted in order to restore my apps and contacts?
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You have to be rooted to restore apps using titanium, not for contacts though.
ou812bkewl said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7287634 check this out here for back-to-stock info. I would try CM7 since you already have some experience with it. They have allot of info in their thread in the Dev forum. That is what I run and I like it because I didn't have to flash bootloaders and its one of the simplest to install. Is your captivate running stock 2.2?
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My Captivate is stock and rooted.
Titanium Backup requires root to backup or restore anything.
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nok6100 said:
You have to be rooted to restore apps using titanium, not for contacts though.
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I would be using Titanium to backup my contacts unless there is a better way. I have several groups in my contacts for work and personal ring tones for different groups. It would be a major pain to have to set them up again.
LBCaptivate said:
I would be using Titanium to backup my contacts unless there is a better way. I have several groups in my contacts for work and personal ring tones for different groups. It would be a major pain to have to set them up again.
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What I have always done is to export my contacts to the external sd card by using "import/export" function in the contacts app, not sure if it would have a impact on all of your settings though because I have always used a simple setup, single ringtone for everyone in my contacts. Just be prepared in case something doesn't work as expected. I have no experience with using titanium to backup the contacts.
nok6100 said:
What I have always done is to export my contacts to the external sd card by using "import/export" function in the contacts app, not sure if it would have a impact on all of your settings though because I have always used a simple setup, single ringtone for everyone in my contacts. Just be prepared in case something doesn't work as expected.
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Exporting the contacts is not an option since it will take a contact with multiple numbers and turn them into an indvidual one for each number. I have used AndroidSync Wifi to backup contacts and it seems to work pretty good. I have never used Titanium before so I am not sure how well it works with contacts.
The easiest way to back up your contacts is to save them to google. Lol. +1 on the KI2 rom, Flashed it a few days ago and it's amazing... I'm no longer tempted to cash in 80 hours of PTO to get the Galaxy SII tomorrow.
nbell13 said:
The easiest way to back up your contacts is to save them to google. Lol. +1 on the KI2 rom, Flashed it a few days ago and it's amazing... I'm no longer tempted to cash in 80 hours of PTO to get the Galaxy SII tomorrow.
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Do you know which thread has the current information on KI2? There are a lot of different threads. Thanks!
Never mind. This is getting to confusing. Some say you need a kernel and some don't. Then there is the Flash clockworkmod Recovery. Is this the same thing that is in Rom Manager? Do I get the full version of Rom manager and flash with that? Do you use Odin? Do you flash to stock? I am already running 2.2 rooted.Threads are 500-1000 pages long, some have old information, ect.............where is the most current updated information????? CM7 nightly builds?? Do you flash everyday? Is there a stable build? Ect.........
KI2 original thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282369
download link is in there, just stick the file in the pda slot in odin, put phone into download mode, and flash away... everything you need is in that file (bootloaders, kernel, etc).. it's the stock at&t leak, so it also has bloatware, but oh well.
nbell13 said:
KI2 original thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1282369
download link is in there, just stick the file in the pda slot in odin, put phone into download mode, and flash away... everything you need is in that file (bootloaders, kernel, etc).. it's the stock at&t leak, so it also has bloatware, but oh well.
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^^^^^^
After you get stock 2.3.5 Root with Fugu Method here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1127249
In step 6. replace KF1 kernal with Boogs modified KI1 Kernel here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242533
ClockWork Mod recovery with Boogs KI1/KI2 Kernel Here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1242533
Then you'll have KI2, Root, CWM Recovery, Init.d Support.
If you want extended power menu and crt animation follow with emunees [CWM][DEODEXED][ROOTED][ZIPALIGNED] I897UCKI2 [Android 2.3.5] here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283566
And the Ext menu and CRT Zip is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1283075
This will give you the latest and greatest Closest to stock 2.3.5 ROM with CWM and Root. Im a nubby and I pulled it off. So anyone can do it.
Steve
I still have not flashed. Have been reading threads for hours and hours. So much information and so many Roms Here is what I would like, swipe, get all my contacts back in groups (important for work)and a good stable rom. Seems like each rom has its issues, GPS, download ability, speed of download, some media files not working, poor call quality, not getting text messages, ect......... I know that the developers don't like to recommend roms but with all the different roms and some threads being close to 1000 pages long, it is hard to tell what is considered stable and what is an alpha or beta and what is current. The information on my phone is below. Any help or suggestions to a few good roms with complete instructions would be appreciated. Is rom manager even an option for flashing?
I would understand if the mods close this thread but I am sure that I am not the only one overwhelmed by all this information. It is pretty amazing how many people contribute to the development of all the different Roms.
Thanks again for any help or guidance!