Hi Guys,
I got 3 question,
1-) when you do a ROM BACKUP using Rom Manager, does it backup all your apps and their settings? or do i need Titanium backup for that?
2-) I got a samsung captivate that has Lag Fix installed , anyone know if Rom Manager works ok with that, like if i restore from my backed up ROM, does cause any problem having lag fix?
3-) anyone can point me to a tutorial on how to backup / restore using Rom Manager?
Thank you and appreciate your time.
1. it backs up the phone in its current state, meaning all apps/settings
2. it would probably be best to undo the lagfix
3. click on backup current rom or manager rom backups... thats it.
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Silly noob-like question, but I wanted to make sure before I continued messing with my phone.
Does ROM Manager back up EVERYTHING on the phone? For example, I backup my rom. Move the backup file onto my pc. Then I screw around with roms, lag fixes, etc. and totally screw it up. If I "restore" the backup made by ROM Manager, will all my apps, settings, desktop, data files, etc be exactly as they were before I started screwing around?
Or, would I need to use Odin to load the same ROM as that which was backed up and then run Rom Manager Restore?
Thanks!
Yes it does
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Here's another question regarding this thread:
I have the lagfix mod which uses the internal sdcard. When I create a backup will it and restore exactly how it was including the lagfix partition? If yes, is it the same procedures or do I have to do it a different way with the extra partition?
Thanks in advance.
Deca4 said:
Here's another question regarding this thread:
I have the lagfix mod which uses the internal sdcard. When I create a backup will it and restore exactly how it was including the lagfix partition? If yes, is it the same procedures or do I have to do it a different way with the extra partition?
Thanks in advance.
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Actually I am trying to figure out the same thing. I made a backup before I started messing around with lag fixes, different roms and so forth. Then the other day I tried to restore a rom it didn't work. Eventually I soft bricked the phone and had to make the USB Jig to get it working again. Needless to say I am very intrigued with what exactly Rom Manager does backup and its limitations but I can't seem to find it anywhere. I am thinking the reason my backup was screwed up was because of a lag fix, only problem is I can't remember what lag fix I had on it when I did the initial recovery.
Something from my experience to add here:
Scenario 1:
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I backed up the original 2.1 JH7 on my phone.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM, and played around with it.
Backed up 2.2 ROM.
Messed up with my 2.2 custom ROM.
Went to ROM manager recovery, and recovered the backed up 2.1 JH7, and ended up messing up. My phone didn't even boot up.
Then I went back to recovery, and tried restoring the backed up version of 2.2.
Phone booted up into 2.2, but, started giving a lot of FCs.
Scenario 2:
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Installed 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Backed it up.
Messed it.
Restored it - worked fine.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM 2.
Backed it up.
Restored the 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Everything working fine.
Looks like as long as the core OS is of the same version, it seems to work.
Maybe there is something in the boot sequence that's probably not being restored (???)
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Edit: I do not have CWM app installed. I use the CWM update.zip recovery manager since its the least intrusive way.
diablo009 said:
Something from my experience to add here:
Scenario 1:
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I backed up the original 2.1 JH7 on my phone.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM, and played around with it.
Backed up 2.2 ROM.
Messed up with my 2.2 custom ROM.
Went to ROM manager recovery, and recovered the backed up 2.1 JH7, and ended up messing up. My phone didn't even boot up.
Then I went back to recovery, and tried restoring the backed up version of 2.2.
Phone booted up into 2.2, but, started giving a lot of FCs.
Scenario 2:
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Installed 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Backed it up.
Messed it.
Restored it - worked fine.
Installed 2.2 custom ROM 2.
Backed it up.
Restored the 2.2 custom ROM 1.
Everything working fine.
Looks like as long as the core OS is of the same version, it seems to work.
Maybe there is something in the boot sequence that's probably not being restored (???)
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Edit: I do not have CWM app installed. I use the CWM update.zip recovery manager since its the least intrusive way.
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Interesting, it would makes sense in what you are saying. My error that I go was when I went from my original JH7 backup, installed a rom based on JH6 and then tried to install my original backup. I might have to try JH6 roms and see if I can restore to them easily or not. I will have to wait for Micro USB cables to come in as I don't have a spare since I used my only cable to make the JIG.
The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
I herd a rumor that rom manager doesn't work with froyo on the captivate. But I could be totally wrong.
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peachpuff said:
The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
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This is what I have read about it as well
Voodoo
There is also a different version of CWM Recovery (what Rom Manager uses to back things up) for the voodoo lag fix.
tnerb123 said:
I herd a rumor that rom manager doesn't work with froyo on the captivate. But I could be totally wrong.
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It works. I backed up and restored a few variants of Froyo ROMs.
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The kernel and modem aren't backed up, so if your backups use different ones and you try to restore them you'll have issues.
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How do I backup these? Is there any way?
If Ron Manager does backup the kernel and modem why would so many people have problems restoring back to different Roms? This is why I am so puzzled with this software.
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Rom Manager can backup EFS folder ??
i lost my imei and the only backup that i have its from Ron Manager
Absolutely it does there!
Maybe I'm old fashioned, but best bet is backup from recovery. Saves everything down to browser login data. Can't go wrong with a full backup! I make one every time I flash just about anything.
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Rom Manager vs CWM Recovery
yes Rom Manager can do backup of phone..but why not just do
a Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery..
never had problem with Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery :victory:
dobi3 said:
yes Rom Manager can do backup of phone..but why not just do
a Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery..
never had problem with Nandroid Backup from CWM Recovery :victory:
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Agreed!
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Hi I have just rooted my Legend and installed Cyanogen mod and its all running lovely.... I notice that the nightly builds come out quite regularly.
My question is this....
What is the best way to install the new ROM?
What is the easiest way to get all my settings/ installed apps back? Is there a nice and easy way of backing up everything so that I can install the new ROM and then reinstate everything?
Thanks in advance for any useful info.
Matt
Hi ,
One software for all : Rom Manager
With it you can :
backup & restore all your phone (from app or from recovery menu in nandroid area)
It also allow you to download and install other ROM like nightly build
Bye
Not sure if that is what the question meant? I thought they wanted to know how to reload all apps and settings on the new rom, not just how to recover back to the old rom.
I thought titanium backup would be the go, but I myself am still getting the hang of this whole rom flashing thing.
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If it is just for restoring installed apps, then Titanium Backup would be the best way for me.
liltbrockie said:
Hi I have just rooted my Legend and installed Cyanogen mod and its all running lovely.... I notice that the nightly builds come out quite regularly.
My question is this....
What is the best way to install the new ROM?
What is the easiest way to get all my settings/ installed apps back? Is there a nice and easy way of backing up everything so that I can install the new ROM and then reinstate everything?
Thanks in advance for any useful info.
Matt
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Nand backup from recovery menu for safety, titanium for apps.. Btw: questions shuld be posted in general not in dev..
I'm gonna install CyanogenMod-6.1 on my daughters stock Nexus One. I've flashed roms and kernels on my Vibrant, but I'm a little nervous about the Nexus.
1. Backup apps with Titanium backup
2. Do a hard reset
3. Root the phone with Superboot
3. Install Rom Manager
4. Install CyanogenMod directly from Rom Manager
5. Restore apps with Titanium Backup
Is this the right method?
Thanks in advance.
Hey
I would recommend using one-click root method. Also, since you aren't rooted already, titanium backup won't work. My recommendation would be the following:
1. Download and install VISIONary from MoDaCO (http://android.modaco.com/content/software/320350/19-nov-r14-visionary-one-click-root/)
2. Use temp root in VISIONary.
3. Download Titanium backup from the market and backup all your apps.
4. Download Rom Manager from the market and flash clockwork recovery through it.
5. Download CM 6.1.0 through Rom Manager or however you wish to and flash it through clockwork mod recovery.
6. Restore apps through Titanium backup.
But I'm not sure if VISIONary works with Gingerbread (if you installed the 2.3.3 OTA). You'll have to confirm that from someone.
Regards
Raptor
If you are already on 2.3.3, you only have 2 options to root:
1 - unlock the bootloader and root
2 - revert to an older version of android and root
Both these methods will wipe your data, and the best non-root backup solution seems to be MyBackup. You can also use other apps to backup other things (APN settings, SMS, etc).
I suggest reading the wiki first, and then asking more specific questions...
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Thank you for the replies.
It went very simple... the phone had SU installed. Downloaded Rom manager and Titanium backup, backup'd the apps and the stock rom, and then flashed CM6 directly from Rom manager. The whole thing took about 20-mins.
I was a little disappointed with the Quadrant score... it was listed below N1 by around 200 points - even after the 10-min reboot.
The phone does run much more smoothly though.
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Thank you for the replies.
It went very simple... the phone had SU installed. Downloaded Rom manager and Titanium backup, backup'd the apps and the stock rom, and then flashed CM6 directly from Rom manager. The whole thing took about 20-mins.
I was a little disappointed with the Quadrant score... it was listed below N1 by around 200 points - even after the 10-min reboot.
The phone does run much more smoothly though.
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Did you run Quadrant just once?
If there isn't any improvement over time of use, I suggest a different Kernel.
Flash through recovery.
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Did you run Quadrant just once?
If there isn't any improvement over time of use, I suggest a different Kernel.
Flash through recovery.
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Thanks. You have any suggestions for a Kernel with CM 6.1.1?
Hi.
so i want to back up my rom and try a new one. because so much stuff installed and tweeks i have already made i dont want to lose them all.
what is the possible way to backup everything. and then try a different rom, if i didnt like it i can go back to this rom like nothing happened ?
titanum backup only backup your applications as far as i know. not the whole rom with application
Rom Manager... i tried to do backup once before but it failed to find the rom when i went to the recovery. i dont know if i did something wrong back then. but any help would be thankful
Do a nandroid backup through recovery
Use ClockworkMod and do a Nandroid. Make sure it's the latest version, as one of the CWM versions wouldn't restore properly without reflashing the ROM over the top. Latest version works really well though.
Hello guys,
I bought SGS1 a while ago and changed some roms it was annoying losing my apps then my friend told me to use titanium backup it was more annyong cuz i had to backup one program at a time
then i heard about Nandroid Backup , so my question is:
if i change ROM lets say from MIUI to Darky or something and i used Nandroid Backup, all my apps will be there after i restore?
Your phone will shift back exactly where it was when you nandroid backed up ! And any progress from their will be lost !
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BHuvan goyal said:
Your phone will shift back exactly where it was when you nandroid backed up ! And any progress from their will be lost !
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So if I change rom from miui to brand new one and then i restore it will go back to miui? or it will just put my apps from miui on the brand new rom?
Its backup whole rom with apps...tge best possible solution is u have to use titanium backup pro it make a complete backup of apps....i thinkn u r using some free version pf titanium thats why i makes problem.
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Titanium Backup offers the option to backup all your apps at the same time, in case you didn't know. This may be only for the paid version though, I'm not sure. But considering it's the most useful app I've come across, it's definitely worth the money.
Menu > Batch
Disc0nectoR said:
So if I change rom from miui to brand new one and then i restore it will go back to miui? or it will just put my apps from miui on the brand new rom?
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Actually if you try to restore a nandroid backup after switching to cm7/miui, your phone simply wont work as the file systems are completely different.
To go back to a Samsung ROM from miui you would need to flash a stock Samsung ROM via odin, and THEN restore the nandroid.
Anyway, beyond that remember the following...
Titanium backs up apps and app data, use after changing ROMs to regain apps.
Nandroid takes a snapshot of the entire ROM, use in case of problems to repair your phone.
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rschenck said:
Actually if you try to restore a nandroid backup after switching to cm7/miui, your phone simply wont work as the file systems are completely different.
To go back to a Samsung ROM from miui you would need to flash a stock Samsung ROM via odin, and THEN restore the nandroid.
Anyway, beyond that remember the following...
Titanium backs up apps and app data, use after changing ROMs to regain apps.
Nandroid takes a snapshot of the entire ROM, use in case of problems to repair your phone.
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Correctly said rschenck!!
Basically if you are on CM7 and want to give a try to MIUI just make a NANDROID backup for full ROM backup and try MIUI ,if you don't like it then flash back CM7 first and then restore the NANDROID backup!!
when it comes to Titaniuim backup , it backs up your app data,freezes them and the apps you want (only in pro version) on any ROM and restore back after flashing any other ROM, if you are on free version then you must select manually which apps to backup that's a pain in the ass !!
Use these according to your requirements....and dont ever restore one rom's nandroid with another as the Kernels,Filesystems,Modems,Bootloaders are entirely different and that could mess up your phone !!
i would prefer NANDROID over Titanuim !!
Thanks guys for this wonderful explanation...just one more query:
I'm currently using samsung Stock rom, CF root kernel, with lagfix(ext4), and some "framework" tweaks..and am thinking of trying CyanogenMod. So if i do a Nandroid backup now, and later decide to come back from cyanogenmod, can i just use Odin to get to ANY Stock rom so that the partitions, file systems, modem etc get back to a similar old format, OR do i need this exact Stock rom version, Kernel, lagfix etc before i can restore the nandroid?
is "kernel" included in a Nandroid backup? also, are Types of filesystems included (or "Lagfix" has to be repeated)?