Please Stop the Competition - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

This does nothing for the community.

Allow me to be the first to say.. WTF are you talking about?

While I agree that the "fastest", "safest", "slowest", "not close to winning" is a bit much and I would not agree with all of them, competition is good. Otherwise you will not get good updated ROMs this fast.

It's about the best ROM comp....!!

mattpall said:
Allow me to be the first to say.. WTF are you talking about?
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Agreed WTF are you talking about?

ColonyDude said:
While I agree that the "fastest", "safest", "slowest", "not close to winning" is a bit much and I would not agree with all of them, competition is good. Otherwise you will not get good updated ROMs this fast.
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I don't think that this should be in the Dev section though...

I believe he's talking about all the ridiculous thread names for the rom's, like "best evur!" and such. It is pretty ridiculous. I can't tell if it's all in good fun or if everyone is just being childish.
Either way I love the work everyone is doing for our phones, but, I could do with out the bashing via thread names.

All the stuff between rom creators.. I think a lil comp inspireres each rom creator to do his our her best work. So I don't mind .. With comp how would football be...boring
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its all fun and games .
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chvybeatsford said:
All the stuff between rom creators.. I think a lil comp inspireres each rom creator to do his our her best work. So I don't mind .. With comp how would football be...boring
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Competition for the great good.. I mean greater captivate.

Hate to say it but threads like these are more detrimental to the dev section than some silly title spat between devs. The roms all download just the same.

stop complaining ...

Nothing wrong with a competitive spirit and a little trash talking. Keeps the Devs on their toes. The cry babies take their ball and go home. the strong survive and deliver the goods.

lol I think DG is just playing around. I think he could give two ****s if his is really the fastest ROM
And competition is good. Otherwise it would stagnate the development and nobody would strive to pump out a better ROM.
Either way its a win win for us flash junkies.

Competition is a good thing. Progress through community sharing is good and is the nature of Linux (as I understand it.)
Stealing someone's work and not giving them credit for it is something entirely different. Just used the build.prop? Puhhh-leeeeeease, how stupid do you think some of us are?

Have you guys heard of CyanogenMod? People stopped competing and started working together. CyanogenMod is MUCH better ROM now. Not saying thats what should be done in this situation but the model has worked before.

Yeah, and it has taken them 6 months to put out a captivate rom...
I like the competition, although I think my phone would have a different opinion. Poor thing can't keep the same rom on it for a day.

flucks said:
Yeah, and it has taken them 6 months to put out a captivate rom...
I like the competition, although I think my phone would have a different opinion. Poor thing can't keep the same rom on it for a day.
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That's because Samsuck had to use RFS instead of EXT4 like linux uses.

spyz88 said:
Have you guys heard of CyanogenMod? People stopped competing and started working together. CyanogenMod is MUCH better ROM now. Not saying thats what should be done in this situation but the model has worked before.
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Cyano-what?
Until we get the Froyo source for this, the Captivate ROMs will be kind of limited in what can be done with them. You can theme them, add or remove apps, try different modems, etc, but I don't think we'll start seeing some real awesomeness until we have the source. Look at what's going on in the I-9000 forums...they have some amazing devs over there. Sztupy, supercurio, codeworkx, raspdeep, hardcore, etc, etc, they all release their sources and initramfs, etc. And those are just the kernel hackers, then there's all the ROM developers over there. I think the I-9000 forums put the Vibrant and Captivate forums to shame with the petty bickering and kanging.

God forbid the devs have a sense of humor and personality...

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Who Do You Trust

Who do you trust with your phone???? This is not meant to BASH anyone. The purpose of this thread is for all of us to contribute in a way that will give users of this site an opportunity to see others RESPECTFUL opinions and experiences as it relates to the "devs" putting out roms. Who Do YOU Trust??
Get the **** out of here with these stupid threads - its a waste of space, man.
Fail thread is Fail
jabbawalkee said:
Get the **** out of here with these stupid threads - its a waste of space, man.
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[email protected] said:
Fail thread is Fail
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hey jerkkkkks. report it, contribute, or shut up
jabbawalkee said:
Get the **** out of here with these stupid threads - its a waste of space, man.
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Agreed this coming from the guy who reports every thead I have seen of his.
honestly, there is nothing wrong with this thread on xda, but please never post this useless crap in the dev forum
PsychoKilla666 said:
honestly, there is nothing wrong with this thread on xda, but please never post this useless crap in the dev forum
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i understand what you mean, but i put this here because this is where the roms are located. People come to this forum to find roms, and info about them. thanks to all those that have voted so far!
guess i will be seeing this over in Q&A or gen real quickly
Ok, lets see where this leads to
thanks mikey for moving this
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I know this will probably be moved, BUT let's give it a shot. This is not meant to BASH anyone. The purpose of this thread is for all of us to contribute in a way that will give users of this site an opportunity to see others RESPECTFUL opinions and experiences as it relates to the "devs" putting out roms. Who Do YOU Trust??
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Kinda subjective... Obvious choice is Cyanogen. Why even ask?
hey i was right, as soon as i posted my post it was move
who do i trust me, myself and i
who do i distrust everyone
but i support the works of cy, twisted, jac, maxisma and all the honest devs around here
i distrust drizzy though and will never touch anything of his now
Cyanogen is winning the vote, but this isn't to make one out to be better than the other, because they all do different stuff. But there is something to be said about how it is done. In a free market, everyone chooses based upon their own set of criteria.
I trust me and that creepy guy that keeps looking at me when im not looking...
<--- Yeah thats him right there.
This thread is stupid. You said this thread isnt meant to bash on the devs, but your basically doing that with the polls. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the devs mentioned above sees the result and decides to leave xda for good because of crap like this. I seriously see no point in this thread except to put these people in the spotlight. Come on folks, common sense is your friend when it comes to trust.
Lets make a thread about Jaaronpardy or w/e the OP name is, lets put up a poll to see who thinks this guy thread is garbage or not. Seriously tho, who gives a F**K? if the devs above contributes and makes nice roms then hooray!the community is happy, but what the f**k trust got to do with anything? Fail thread is FAIL!
[email protected] said:
This thread is stupid.
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man do i want to smoke
twistedumbrella said:
Kinda subjective... Obvious choice is Cyanogen. Why even ask?
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Yeah, its a question based on opinion of individuals... AKA ...subjective lol, and he asked just so that the community can have a reference for new members, etc, w/e... and no cyanogen may not be obvious to all..
that all aside, lol, i trust cyanogen (myself only for cupcake/donut of course) and kingklick for hero, but MLIGN and maxisma and drizzy all make contributions of what they personally like in a phone also, so really, the best thing for everyone to do would be to make individual custom roms like moto modding is with monster packs lol
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man do i want to smoke
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seriously man, its getting up to here --- lol i could use some "stress" relief (oh and, btw i like this thread , just an fyi lmao)
a good thread to be up right now.
Today, I saw some of the most ridiculous, immature, stupid asinine talk from people that are supposed to have I.Q's above their pants sizes that I have ever seen.
Using ebonics to try and explain how they arent stupid..... calling people names while having NO CLUE what they are talking about.
A guy who thought it was funny because he tried to rip some kids phone off and got caught.
How much attention does one guy need to beg for?
I came here thinking that there would be at least a tiny bit more respect for people then places like PSP and Xbox mod sites where retarded kids run rampant, then I see that all this place mostly is, is people stealing others work and taking credit.. then blaming the persons wok they took.
The first rom I ever used was Drizzys blur....... After seeing the way he talks to people, the way he treats people... hell just the way he types has made me loose any respect I may have had.
I have no clue how roms are made. I would never attempt to make one. But, being as how NO DEVELOPER here actually makes any of these roms makes it the more ridiculous.
You take an image from a phone, and change things around and name it. All these guys do is take someone elses work and slap crap all over it, change some stuff up and call it their own. How about I take windows XP, make 1 wallpaper, change the page file settings and put a bunch of crappy icons and name it "windows crypy xtreme". Sounds retarded doesnt it? Well thats all these guys do.
Ive seen some of the dumbest arguments I have ever seen in my 28 years, on this site between people who are supposed to have half a brain.
There is only so many times I can see "er'ything, dis, dat"... I mean, is it that hard to add that extra correct letter into your english when trying to prove your intelligence? how can you argue with someone when you didnt even make it far enough through school to know how to talk to other humans?
Oh well.... Ive learned enough here in my few weeks to now know what im doing when searching for a rom. I dont care about whos name is on it.
All these roms were leaked, stolen or dumped at some point in time to where anyone with the right knowledge can make their own. Its just sad when some "kids" are some full of themselves they just beg for the attention they can get whether it be good or extremely bad.That shows me that maybe mommy and daddy dont love them very much.... or are just dumber then dirt with crap in it.
After the arguments I saw here today, trying to justify ripping people off for having trust, whining about who stole what first and who is better at altering said stolen content... I think this place is a joke.
It may have been good at 1 point in time, but when you get a bunch of attention starved idiots into a room together, of which some have serious personality issues, it just turns into a big heaping steaming pile of poo.
HEll, I dont even know who deserves credit for what now because this place is so full of BS.
I... Just... its insane really.
Sorry for this rant, but after hours of reading complete and utter retardation all day today and loosing many an I.Q point for reading, I thought this was the only appropriate thread for said rant.
The real question here is, all these guys use STOLEN software, how can you trust any of them?
I dont trust anyone I dont know personally, and Ive made it this far in life. Some of you that are still under 20, trying to act like you are god because you slap a bunch of files together is just... well DUMB.
I mean really.... some of you are supposed to be smart software wise..... How did you get so stupid in every other aspect of life?
[email protected] said:
This thread is stupid. You said this thread isnt meant to bash on the devs, but your basically doing that with the polls.
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no more back and forth, after this, the only one who is bashing anyone is you. I have not voted, nor offered a critical opinion. get over it

will cyanogen ever start making roms for eris?

if Not, lets put a petition together and start protesting. Lol.
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iflip said:
if Not, lets put a petition together and start protesting. Lol.
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chances are that he wont make a rom for the eris. i want it too, but the only thing you can do is just wait and see. he probably knows of all the people that want his rom so no use in bugging him, which could cause him to not come here and port it for us.
LOL I was at work and all day I was planning on asking this same question when I got off!!
Probably not, few years ago Google had issued him cease and desist order as result of early release of market app in his ROM before official launch. Ever since that day he was not allowed to included anything that are Google's, e.g. IM, Map, etc... even the driver for GSM itself, in fact he had to write his own driver to work with GSM signal, it's like asking him to do CDMA as well. Only thing we can do is have someone to port his release, using his framework and such and that might just work.
Feel free to ask him to give you his source code so that you can port it over to eris, I'm sure he'll be more than happy to do so.
I don't think he would. Right now he's only releasing N1 and G1/Magic roms because he owns a N1 and I think his wife and friends own G1's. Maybe if someone gave him an Eris then he would start? and I think he recently included the Motorola Droid because someone else ported his rom to it and I guess he continued the dev process, but don't take my word for all that lol. And if anything just ask him on http://twitter.com/cyanogen
By the way, I think this should belong in the General and not the Themes and Apps forum...
It looks like someone contacted him about it looking at his twitter he either needs to get an eris or a dev that has one to work out a port.
Cyanogen on Eric
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Framework(Developer of Evil Eris ROM):
Lets just say its never been released to the eris before.
Its not an htc rom with stuff taken out,
its better
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holys*** u ported cynagon mod?????
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Framework:
Its almost there, yes. I have things to work on.
Donators get first dibs if they want to test when its testable
Sorry guys, but its the only way I can thank for for their generosity
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Looks like the Eris might be getting cyanogen after all
homewmt said:
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Framework(Developer of Evil Eris ROM):
Framework:
Looks like the Eris might be getting cyanogen after all
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It's great to see someone already on this, I was about to take up on this porting project myself LOL. Maybe you should start your own thread where we can watch the development and keep us all in loop? Well that's up to you... if not, I'll understand.
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Framework(Developer of Evil Eris ROM):
Lets just say its never been released to the eris before.
Its not an htc rom with stuff taken out,
its better
For now, thats all I shall spill
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holys*** u ported cynagon mod?????
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Framework:
Its almost there, yes. I have things to work on.
Donators get first dibs if they want to test when its testable
Sorry guys, but its the only way
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Looks like the Eris might be getting cyanogen after all
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Actually their are three devs trying to make it work on the Eris each working on their own :/....
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shady to say donators will be first to test once its available, i thought those days were over. apparently i was wrong. i guess greed once again is the top dog.
glad im working on my own rendition..which in fact i will pass around like a joint in the 70's..
SoCalSpecialist said:
shady to say donators will be first to test once its available, i thought those days were over. apparently i was wrong. i guess greed once again is the top dog.
glad im working on my own rendition..which in fact i will pass around like a joint in the 70's..
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look man this Frame is probably in junior high if hes taking the regents like he said a little while back and as of he has created the hands down best Eris rom. Hes a young adult whos running circles around most of us. Hes going to give the rom out for free but if he wants to give some appreciation to the people who have helped support him, so be it.
If in about 200 pages of forum posts on Evil Eris this is only issue you have with him, I think its fair to say were not on the dawn of the Sith empire of greed. I think he probably said something a bit hastily and it shouldn't be blown out of proportion.
Once again Thanks frame for making the best Eris rom. I think i say this for tons of people, we appreciate the work you do and let us know anything we can do to return the favor!
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look man this Frame is probably in junior high if hes taking the regents like he said a little while back and as of he has created the hands down best Eris rom. Hes a young adult whos running circles around most of us. Hes going to give the rom out for free but if he wants to give some appreciation to the people who have helped support him, so be it.
If in about 200 pages of forum posts on Evil Eris this is only issue you have with him, I think its fair to say were not on the dawn of the Sith empire of greed. I think he probably said something a bit hastily and it shouldn't be blown out of proportion.
Once again Thanks frame for making the best Eris rom. I think i say this for tons of people, we appreciate the work you do and let us know anything we can do to return the favor!
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where i like frameworks rom .... i would definitely disagree as to what may or may not be "hands down" the best rom ..... what is the best depends on the users likes, dislikes and needs .....
donations ...I have nothing against them .....
but there are alot of developers here that work just as hard .....
so the only thing that i see is clearly hands down the best....is the Android community and the openness of it which brings alot of choices
jvward said:
look man this Frame is probably in junior high if hes taking the regents like he said a little while back and as of he has created the hands down best Eris rom. Hes a young adult whos running circles around most of us. Hes going to give the rom out for free but if he wants to give some appreciation to the people who have helped support him, so be it.
If in about 200 pages of forum posts on Evil Eris this is only issue you have with him, I think its fair to say were not on the dawn of the Sith empire of greed. I think he probably said something a bit hastily and it shouldn't be blown out of proportion.
Once again Thanks frame for making the best Eris rom. I think i say this for tons of people, we appreciate the work you do and let us know anything we can do to return the favor!
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thank u for ur splendid post..
frame and i speak and have no standing issue..i just have different views on certain things, donations being one of them tis all a matter of voicing my opinion is all i did.
now with that being said, and since u brought it up, i would so welcome "Order 66" considering i am a fan of the sith empire..
no seriously..i would.
thank u annnnnd buenos nachos.
dont shoot me, but what makes cyanogen so great? i mean we have some sick ass roms.
droidkevlar said:
dont shoot me, but what makes cyanogen so great? i mean we have some sick ass roms.
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personally..i think he is probably one of THE BEST, ( stating my opinion again uh ohhh ) ROM creators the android community have seen..just like Mighty Mike is for the Windows Platform.
all around stability and his willingness to continue to strive and stay one step ahead of the game is what keeps his roms so uniquely intact and on top.
....**** u would think im his road manager or something LOL
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dont shoot me, but what makes cyanogen so great? i mean we have some sick ass roms.
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CyanogenMOD is a very small light rom that is super fast, looks really nice, has OTA updates, and is just really sleek and slick.
Cool SoCalSpecialist,
Sorry I didnt mean to come off hard, but I didn't want this guy to take heat He works to hard to be putting up with it. And I agree with you "best rom" may not be the right phrase, but I think "rom to beat" in a number of different categories would be a fair thing to say
And a note on the community. The Android community is awesome. I am currently working on getting a CCNA and a MSCE, but as soon as that's done, I would like to come back to Xda and get more involved as a developer Everyone here who develops is inspiring to those of us in IT with ****ty jobs Reading this forum helps me keep my sanity while getting support calls from people who don't know how to re-size windows.
Thanks again Frame and everyone else who is part of XDA!

Desire Z source code released

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Just noticed this on AndroidCentral. Apologies if posted already. Steps toward new sense
Just to clear this up, this is the kernel source.
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Just to clear this up, this is the kernel source.
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Good to know,. Although this literally has nothing to do with us
Edit; quoted wrong person, but you get the point.
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jdkoreclipse said:
Good to know,. Although this literally has nothing to do with us
Edit; quoted wrong person, but you get the point.
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Maybe he was informing people who are trying to port the Z ROM to the Incredible?
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Maybe he was informing people who are trying to port the Z ROM to the Incredible?
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I'm trying.... I know a kernel source is near useless for us, but great news to hear of progress.
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That is exactly why I posted it. The name Incdoes ring any bells? How about Ihtfp or his incorporation of new sense in to skyraider? Sorry jdk, not everyone is all about jdkevolution or blackhawk, or whatever your daily created rom is.
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That is exactly why I posted it. The name Incdoes ring any bells? How about Ihtfp or his incorporation of new sense in to skyraider? Sorry jdk, not everyone is all about jdkevolution or blackhawk, or whatever your daily created rom is.
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TheIncredibleJ said:
That is exactly why I posted it. The name Incdoes ring any bells? How about Ihtfp or his incorporation of new sense in to skyraider? Sorry jdk, not everyone is all about jdkevolution or blackhawk, or whatever your daily created rom is.
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Thanks - anytime a source is posted is good. It may not be for the Inc, but there may be things in the code that a dev reads and says "Wow, I didn't think of that".
JD, you have been back from ban for only a few days, but drama still follows you
Jdk it is useless for someone like you who does not know what to do with it but the others may use it to get the camera working in the desire hd port. Hahah
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I'm trying.... I know a kernel source is near useless for us, but great news to hear of progress.
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You're trying?
Advice: Stop trying.
I'm sure he's bitter over me calling him out in the past so he had to use his "community standing" and post count belittle me. My post count is miniscule for a reason. If I don't know something, I research. If I don't have something to contribute, I keep quiet. I don't pretend to know things when I don't. So jdk quit acting like the 12 year old we all know you are, and start acting like the 23 year old college student you pretend to be. I posted Z code with good intentions and not just to see myself speak. I have seen nothing but improved development when code is released. Look at kernels we all use by posters on xda. They are all updated with latest code from htc, and thus we reap stability and functionality benefits. Willing to bet the devs here utilize something from that code, and do it before official new sense comes to us.
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I'm sure he's bitter over me calling him out in the past so he had to use his "community standing" and post count belittle me. My post count is miniscule for a reason. If I don't know something, I research. If I don't have something to contribute, I keep quiet. I don't pretend to know things when I don't. So jdk quit acting like the 12 year old we all know you are, and start acting like the 23 year old college student you pretend to be. I posted Z code with good intentions and not just to see myself speak. I have seen nothing but improved development when code is released. Look at kernels we all use by posters on xda. They are all updated with latest code from htc, and thus we reap stability and functionality benefits. Willing to bet the devs here utilize something from that code, and do it before official new sense comes to us.
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I was man enough to pm you and admit i was wrong...but im sorry, and i will edit all my posts.
Lets let this go...last thing the forums need is bitterness..
SO good find with the code, and hopefully we can get cam working
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Lets let this go...last thing the forums need is bitterness..
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Then...Why are you stirring up stuff?
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Then...Why are you stirring up stuff?
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I apologized for my douchebagggery.
jdkoreclipse said:
I was man enough to pm you and admit i was wrong...but im sorry, and i will edit all my posts.
Lets let this go...last thing the forums need is bitterness..
SO good find with the code, and hopefully we can get cam working
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Just read pm i did not see it before. I accept the apology. Let me add a few things. I think we can all agree your not being honest with your real identity and background. Just be real man. No one is gonna look down on you because your a younger. Why live a lie? Im sure im not the only one who thinks you have a lot of potential as far as developing goes. But your not there yet. Get educated, get experience, and just observe for a while. Its ok to sit on the sidelines while learning. You dont need to dev to be accepted. We can clearly see that you have no real developing or coding experience, and in reality dont have a highschool diploma yet. You are young, slow down. This doesnt mean you cant learn as you go, but i reiterate, be real. I no doubt speak for all of us when i say no one wants to hear your bold and inaccurate statements anymore. Your young and just dont have any qualification or justification for most of the things you do and say. Also i will point out that I could never do what you have done with computing at your age, so props to you. With this said, im sure the entire community forgives you for the past but show them that you deserve their forgiveness. No more bold statements, no more "factual opinions", no more relabeling others' roms and calling them your own (,even when credit is given), and lastly there is other ways of contributing to the community without making roms and themes. There would be no drama, bans, or threads like this that generally make this place counterproductive
TheIncredibleJ said:
Just read pm i did not see it before. I accept the apology. Let me add a few things. I think we can all agree your not being honest with your real identity and background. Just be real man. No one is gonna look down on you because your a younger. Why live a lie? Im sure im not the only one who thinks you have a lot of potential as far as developing goes. But your not there yet. Get educated, get experience, and just observe for a while. Its ok to sit on the sidelines while learning. You dont need to dev to be accepted. We can clearly see that you have no real developing or coding experience, and in reality dont have a highschool diploma yet. You are young, slow down. This doesnt mean you cant learn as you go, but i reiterate, be real. I no doubt speak for all of us when i say no one wants to hear your bold and inaccurate statements anymore. Your young and just dont have any qualification or justification for most of the things you do and say. Also i will point out that I could never do what you have done with computing at your age, so props to you. With this said, im sure the entire community forgives you for the past but show them that you deserve their forgiveness. No more bold statements, no more "factual opinions", no more relabeling others' roms and calling them your own (,even when credit is given), and lastly there is other ways of contributing to the community without making roms and themes. There would be no drama, bans, or threads like this that generally make this place counterproductive
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I take your advise...thanks
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Choices!

Does anyone have any idea how development is coming on any NEW roms? Not that im not grateful to the guys that have brought us the two available now, however id like to try something different. None of the currently available roms or themes for that matter really satisfy what im looking for.
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kaonix said:
Does anyone have any idea how development is coming on any NEW roms? Not that im not grateful to the guys that have brought us the two available now, however id like to try something different. None of the currently available roms or themes for that matter really satisfy what im looking for.
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What are you looking for?
Different lol jk
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An miui theme would be delicious
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What are you looking for?
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Exactly what I was about to ask him. Revolt 1.5 goes above and beyond. My 2 themes (more are coming) look pretty damn good in my opinion. What else does this guy want? Does he think this is the D1 or something?
I have learned to very patient (did I spell that right?) with the development of programs for this phone. I wish it was more popular, but I think given time LG can outshine Samsung. I know they are testing Gingerbread on the REVs, so it shouldn't be too long. It also depends on how friendly LG is with giving developers information. I know its a task beyond that considering LG programming is all over the place, there are files that aren't used, and files placed in weird areas. I would almost expect to see something groovy with in the next month or two. On the other hand, the current Roms for this phone are stellar, and I am very thankful for those who have developed these, and those to come. I was hoping I could get into it, but my work has been very demanding as of late, like wise my family... how dare they want to spend time with me.. damn kids.. damn wife. Keep up the great work boys and girls, and to the others, just wait... the revolution of your dreams is coming.
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I have learned to very patient (did I spell that right?) with the development of programs for this phone. I wish it was more popular, but I think given time LG can outshine Samsung. I know they are testing Gingerbread on the REVs, so it shouldn't be too long. It also depends on how friendly LG is with giving developers information. I know its a task beyond that considering LG programming is all over the place, there are files that aren't used, and files placed in weird areas. I would almost expect to see something groovy with in the next month or two. On the other hand, the current Roms for this phone are stellar, and I am very thankful for those who have developed these, and those to come. I was hoping I could get into it, but my work has been very demanding as of late, like wise my family... how dare they want to spend time with me.. damn kids.. damn wife. Keep up the great work boys and girls, and to the others, just wait... the revolution of your dreams is coming.
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I regret to inform you that LG will never outshine Samsung when it comes to phones. Sorry.
I do agree that with times, things get better.
I agree, an miui theme would be awesome. And with all due respect, i do appreciate the effort however the themes i have seen on this forum at least look pretty amateur. Again, like i said, i do appreciate the effort but they just dont do it for me. Take offense if u wish, im sure u will, but beauty is subjective, and if u want no criticism, dont put ur work out to be judged.
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I agree, an miui theme would be awesome. And with all due respect, i do appreciate the effort however the themes i have seen on this forum at least look pretty amateur. Again, like i said, i do appreciate the effort but they just dont do it for me. Take offense if u wish, im sure u will, but beauty is subjective, and if u want no criticism, dont put ur work out to be judged.
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I'm sorry I haven't done good enough for you, and made it pretty enough for you. Next time before I release anything I will contact you for your approval. You are more than welcome to contact me through pm and I can teach you what I know so that you can begin putting out something more "professional" for us all to enjoy. I still don't know what you would like to see implemented into the rom.
I was ok with it all, as more would be better, until that last smart alec comment you made. If you don't like it, that is fine, don't flash it. It may not be for everybody, sorry if you don't like.
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I agree, an miui theme would be awesome. And with all due respect, i do appreciate the effort however the themes i have seen on this forum at least look pretty amateur. Again, like i said, i do appreciate the effort but they just dont do it for me. Take offense if u wish, im sure u will, but beauty is subjective, and if u want no criticism, dont put ur work out to be judged.
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Maybe you could give an example of a more professional theme...? Constructive criticism is usually taken better and appreciated over negative criticism such as you have given...
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Take offense if u wish, im sure u will, but beauty is subjective, and if u want no criticism, dont put ur work out to be judged.
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Actually I'm not offended by your stupidity at all. Look guy, I've made 2 themes for this phone. Iconic HD was my very first theme EVER. I've never made a theme before Iconic HD. Maybe that's why they look a little amateur. However, I'm pretty damn satisfied with both of my themes and I'm sorry you're not. So how about I just stop making themes all together and let you be happy with your ugly LG theme. I can accept criticism, but what you are giving is not criticism. Do you even know what that is? Criticism is saying you don't like something, but giving a solution or suggestion to correct what you don't like. All you're doing is complaining like a woman on her rag and giving no suggestions on what to fix or how to fix it. An old saying goes "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." You my friend unfortunately are part of the problem. So here's what I'm going to do for you. I'm about to start making 2 more themes tomorrow. After those are done, I will post everything I know about themes and you can try to make one yourself. Keep in mind that I've only owned this phone for 3 weeks and have already pushed out 2 themes, with 2 more coming.
Now to be an a**hole. Do not EVER act like you know me or act like you know how I'm going to react to something. I NEVER said, or acted, like I didn't want criticism. In both posts for my themes, I ask people to say something if they don't like something, or if I missed something. Your post only shows your ignorance and shows how self centered you are. NO ONE is going to make a theme specifically for YOU. It's about making something that EVERYONE likes. If you are the only person out of 100 that doesn't like my theme, then there's no way in hell I'm going to change it just for YOU. You obviously know nothing about developing or about themeing or you would just say "Hey I don't like anything this guy has put out, so I'm going to to make something myself." As mtmichaelson said, if you don't like it, DON'T FLASH IT!
It's really hard to keep my cool but I'm trying my best here. Suggest something you want to see, or do it yourself. Until then, keep your noob mouth shut and stop showing everyone how much of a self centered idiot you are.
Now I'm going to stop bashing you because I'm probably going to get banned for this post anyway. If I do, then hopefully I can come back eventually and finish these 2 themes. If I don't get banned then they will be out very soon (like tomorrow). Maybe you can come up with something by then.
Sorry to the mods about this post. I apologize for my actions but I am still going to post this due to being sick and tired of ungrateful people that only want to complain about something and not offer any help on the subject.
I like the screen shots of the themes that were made. Some people are just ungrateful little punks that like to make waves. To the development of the LG roms and themes for this phone keep it up. I was looking at rooting but I can't figure out the downgrade part of it. Seems that my computer is not compatible to do it for some reason.
Keep up the work on these phones. I for one love this phone and like to see the development of it get better and better. Hope to see one day a one click root like there was for the Eris and be able to root V6 or Gingerbread when it drops.
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In response to the troll. Please stop feeding him. It'll only come back for more
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and that's why I like Rootzwiki better! lol. Too bad the Revo community is almost non existent there.
The Revo community seems to exist in small pockets here and there. We're like a scattered pygmy tribe. Tragic.
don't rely on iot too much.h.
kaonix said:
I agree, an miui theme would be awesome. And with all due respect, i do appreciate the effort however the themes i have seen on this forum at least look pretty amateur. Again, like i said, i do appreciate the effort but they just dont do it for me. Take offense if u wish, im sure u will, but beauty is subjective, and if u want no criticism, dont put ur work out to be judged.
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Expression of ones opinion does not make one a troll. If someone does not like something you do c'est la vie. Move on. He also makes a valid point. If you do not want feed back or criticism on your work, do not release it to the public. You cannot please 100% of the people 100% of the time. While his statement lacked a little tact it does make a point. Beauty is subjective. You have to take 2 things into account... 1. It is the internet... 2. It is the internet...
water off a ducks back gents...
I think that all of the roms and themes have been great for this phone they all make the phone better and gives it a little character instead of it just being a genetic looking phone keep up the great work guys
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Haro912 said:
In response to the troll. Please stop feeding him. It'll only come back for more
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Are you saying people are dicks on the Internet just because they can be?
It all makes so much sense now...

We are not easy to please

I only joined XDA in October. I use it a lot though due to an unswerving flash addiction.
I see this kind of message a lot in rom threads: 'Hello! I love your rom! It's by far the fastest I've used on XDA. The thing is, the clock is 0.0000000000000000000000000001% off center, and until this bug is sorted out I can't use your rom as my daily driver.'
Are we all getting too picky? It's a bit like saying 'well, thank you for the offer of a free Ferrari, but I don't like the color of the cigarette lighter so for now I'll carry on walking to work.'
Have you ever worked Retail before?
You get tons of people who like what you have to offer and appreciate it so they keep coming back, then you have the people who think the world should revolve around them. The people who believe you owe them something for no apparent reason and the people who like to complain just to complain. They are the ones who sometimes try to act nice but complain over the smallest things and try to pull a fast one on you.You really have to either have patience with them or just completely ignore them because they think you have nothing better to do than to serve their needs/wants. But don't let them take advantage of your hard work and dedication to what you do.
Don't let that evil person make you lose composure, just remain cool and remember all the other people who thanked you for your work and appreciate you doing it for them.
Those people who complain over the little things on a rom complain about everything in their life, and are never satisfied with the way things are going, and are too much of a hassle to please as all they will do is complain some more. Eventually they will just goto another rom and complain there as well.
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Have you ever worked Retail before?
You get tons of people who like what you have to offer and appreciate it so they keep coming back, then you have the people who think the world should revolve around them. The people who believe you owe them something for no apparent reason and the people who like to complain just to complain. They are the ones who sometimes try to act nice but complain over the smallest things and try to pull a fast one on you.You really have to either have patience with them or just completely ignore them because they think you have nothing better to do than to serve their needs/wants. But don't let them take advantage of your hard work and dedication to what you do
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Nice analogy, especially has I've worked in retail most of my life. I sometimes feel that the ROM and kernel devs deserve a bit more than the demands they receive. Another favourite of mine is when I'll be reading a thread and someone will randomly say 'no good, no immersive' and nothing else.
Then again, I've barely been here 5 minutes!
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Paradelle said:
I see this kind of message a lot in rom threads: 'Hello! I love your rom! It's by far the fastest I've used on XDA. The thing is, the clock is 0.0000000000000000000000000001% off center, and until this bug is sorted out I can't use your rom as my daily driver.'
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But on the other hand they are using commercial software they have to pay for which is full of bugs and where they are used as beta-testers for the first releases...
But I have to confess, that Microsoft improved over the last couple of years compared to let's say, ehm, windows ME
It only gets worse from here. I hate to say this, and I don't mean to tar everyone with the same brush, but compared to iOS and WP users, Android users are some of the most egotistical, demanding, self-entitled, and utterly immature tech audiences out there, and a lot of users on XDA are even more-so. Most don't give a rat's ass how the development pattern goes, what XDA is for, or the fact that no one is being paid to contribute (there's also a special kind of full-retard XDA user that thinks donations are some sort of contractual payment).
You won't get anywhere trying to reason with these people, as they don't think they're doing anything wrong. It's a losing battle, let them be, and if you really want to, drop your favorite dev at least a thank-you note (if not a donation) in his XDA inbox, letting him/her know you personally appreciate the work being given to you at no cost on someone else's free time.
The longer you spend here, the more you'll be able to split the idiot users from the users who have true respect for this place.
That's another small reason I'm still on the stock ROM. I had to root and found a few tweaks to fix a few legit problems and awesome mods and I'm happy. But I really needed a stable well running phone and got one that I can easily tweak no problem.
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kmx said:
Have you ever worked Retail before?
You get tons of people who like what you have to offer and appreciate it so they keep coming back, then you have the people who think the world should revolve around them. The people who believe you owe them something for no apparent reason and the people who like to complain just to complain. They are the ones who sometimes try to act nice but complain over the smallest things and try to pull a fast one on you.You really have to either have patience with them or just completely ignore them because they think you have nothing better to do than to serve their needs/wants. But don't let them take advantage of your hard work and dedication to what you do.
Don't let that evil person make you lose composure, just remain cool and remember all the other people who thanked you for your work and appreciate you doing it for them.
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Why was I satisfied with the Samsung's Note battery series and disappointed with the Nexus line's?
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dicecuber said:
Why was I satisfied with the Samsung's Note battery series and disappointed with the Nexus line's?
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OP, this is an example of a post to not bother responding to. All it takes is to look at his posting history; "dicecuber" spends most of his time either criticizing the Nexus 5, or posting completely irrelevant "questions" in threads that have nothing to do with them (i.e., he asked in the Nexus 5 Singapore thread "can you chew gum in Singapore").
People that respond to this sort of post only enable it to keep happening.
kmx said:
Have you ever worked Retail before?
You get tons of people who like what you have to offer and appreciate it so they keep coming back, then you have the people who think the world should revolve around them. The people who believe you owe them something for no apparent reason and the people who like to complain just to complain. They are the ones who sometimes try to act nice but complain over the smallest things and try to pull a fast one on you.You really have to either have patience with them or just completely ignore them because they think you have nothing better to do than to serve their needs/wants. But don't let them take advantage of your hard work and dedication to what you do.
Don't let that evil person make you lose composure, just remain cool and remember all the other people who thanked you for your work and appreciate you doing it for them.
Those people who complain over the little things on a rom complain about everything in their life, and are never satisfied with the way things are going, and are too much of a hassle to please as all they will do is complain some more. Eventually they will just goto another rom and complain there as well.
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And you complain about people who complain, if no one complained about anything what a terrible world it would be.
My motto is nothing happens if you don't ask. You don't have to be rude while asking, but if there is something bothering you, speak up. I don't see a problem with trying to perfect your experience. Say I use ROM X, but there's a certain feature in ROM Y that I love. Asking ROM X to include the feature from ROM Y isn't the end of the world. At the very least you'll get a no which may or may not come with an explanation as to why.
I don't believe never being satisfied is a negative. I believe it helps you strive for more which in turns helps you progress. I may be happy, but I'm not satisfied. For me, being satisfied means to accept things as they are and no longer push forward. I'm not saying being satisfied is a bad thing, rather I believe both being satisfied and not being satisfied are both good. Everyone ticks at their own pace, no need for us to all conform.
As for your example, everyone is different. Some people have OCD, through no fault of their own. Something as small as the clock being off centre can throw people off. As long as they aren't being rude, I see no problem in them pointing it out. Regardless of how insignificant the issue may be for you personally, the fact remains it is an issue. Bugs can't be fixed if no one reports them.
LiquidSolstice said:
OP, this is an example of a post to not bother responding to. All it takes is to look at his posting history; "dicecuber" spends most of his time either criticizing the Nexus 5, or posting completely irrelevant "questions" in threads that have nothing to do with them (i.e., he asked in the Nexus 5 Singapore thread "can you chew gum in Singapore").
People that respond to this sort of post only enable it to keep happening.
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i like you :highfive:
I just read on here some guy said he donated and what he was going to get for it. Like the dev owed him something.
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I just read on here some guy said he donated and what he was going to get for it. Like the dev owed him something.
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What's his name?
Anybody who's down for donating w/o knowing where his funds are going is someone I'd like to know.
welcome to xda.. things used to be different... long, long ago...
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welcome to xda.. things used to be different... long, long ago...
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I agree. I don't know if people do this anymore but the bounty threads always end in drama. Users think a donation is more than that; a legal binding financial commitment. So when a dev doesn't come through they rage or threaten. They forget the definition of donations.
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Paradelle said:
I only joined XDA in October. I use it a lot though due to an unswerving flash addiction.
I see this kind of message a lot in rom threads: 'Hello! I love your rom! It's by far the fastest I've used on XDA. The thing is, the clock is 0.0000000000000000000000000001% off center, and until this bug is sorted out I can't use your rom as my daily driver.'
Are we all getting too picky? It's a bit like saying 'well, thank you for the offer of a free Ferrari, but I don't like the color of the cigarette lighter so for now I'll carry on walking to work.'
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You are not alone with those thoughts.
Over the years XDA has grown from a site made up of just developers, to a site comprised of more users than developers.
With the increase in users comes more non-development posts.
It is a balancing act to keep XDA focused on development and the non-development chatter to a minimum.
I am no going to close this thread.
If anyone has any questions or comments please PM me.
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