Choices! - LG Revolution

Does anyone have any idea how development is coming on any NEW roms? Not that im not grateful to the guys that have brought us the two available now, however id like to try something different. None of the currently available roms or themes for that matter really satisfy what im looking for.
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kaonix said:
Does anyone have any idea how development is coming on any NEW roms? Not that im not grateful to the guys that have brought us the two available now, however id like to try something different. None of the currently available roms or themes for that matter really satisfy what im looking for.
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What are you looking for?

Different lol jk
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An miui theme would be delicious
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What are you looking for?
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Exactly what I was about to ask him. Revolt 1.5 goes above and beyond. My 2 themes (more are coming) look pretty damn good in my opinion. What else does this guy want? Does he think this is the D1 or something?

I have learned to very patient (did I spell that right?) with the development of programs for this phone. I wish it was more popular, but I think given time LG can outshine Samsung. I know they are testing Gingerbread on the REVs, so it shouldn't be too long. It also depends on how friendly LG is with giving developers information. I know its a task beyond that considering LG programming is all over the place, there are files that aren't used, and files placed in weird areas. I would almost expect to see something groovy with in the next month or two. On the other hand, the current Roms for this phone are stellar, and I am very thankful for those who have developed these, and those to come. I was hoping I could get into it, but my work has been very demanding as of late, like wise my family... how dare they want to spend time with me.. damn kids.. damn wife. Keep up the great work boys and girls, and to the others, just wait... the revolution of your dreams is coming.

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markapowell said:
I have learned to very patient (did I spell that right?) with the development of programs for this phone. I wish it was more popular, but I think given time LG can outshine Samsung. I know they are testing Gingerbread on the REVs, so it shouldn't be too long. It also depends on how friendly LG is with giving developers information. I know its a task beyond that considering LG programming is all over the place, there are files that aren't used, and files placed in weird areas. I would almost expect to see something groovy with in the next month or two. On the other hand, the current Roms for this phone are stellar, and I am very thankful for those who have developed these, and those to come. I was hoping I could get into it, but my work has been very demanding as of late, like wise my family... how dare they want to spend time with me.. damn kids.. damn wife. Keep up the great work boys and girls, and to the others, just wait... the revolution of your dreams is coming.
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I regret to inform you that LG will never outshine Samsung when it comes to phones. Sorry.
I do agree that with times, things get better.

I agree, an miui theme would be awesome. And with all due respect, i do appreciate the effort however the themes i have seen on this forum at least look pretty amateur. Again, like i said, i do appreciate the effort but they just dont do it for me. Take offense if u wish, im sure u will, but beauty is subjective, and if u want no criticism, dont put ur work out to be judged.
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kaonix said:
I agree, an miui theme would be awesome. And with all due respect, i do appreciate the effort however the themes i have seen on this forum at least look pretty amateur. Again, like i said, i do appreciate the effort but they just dont do it for me. Take offense if u wish, im sure u will, but beauty is subjective, and if u want no criticism, dont put ur work out to be judged.
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I'm sorry I haven't done good enough for you, and made it pretty enough for you. Next time before I release anything I will contact you for your approval. You are more than welcome to contact me through pm and I can teach you what I know so that you can begin putting out something more "professional" for us all to enjoy. I still don't know what you would like to see implemented into the rom.
I was ok with it all, as more would be better, until that last smart alec comment you made. If you don't like it, that is fine, don't flash it. It may not be for everybody, sorry if you don't like.
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kaonix said:
I agree, an miui theme would be awesome. And with all due respect, i do appreciate the effort however the themes i have seen on this forum at least look pretty amateur. Again, like i said, i do appreciate the effort but they just dont do it for me. Take offense if u wish, im sure u will, but beauty is subjective, and if u want no criticism, dont put ur work out to be judged.
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Maybe you could give an example of a more professional theme...? Constructive criticism is usually taken better and appreciated over negative criticism such as you have given...
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kaonix said:
Take offense if u wish, im sure u will, but beauty is subjective, and if u want no criticism, dont put ur work out to be judged.
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Actually I'm not offended by your stupidity at all. Look guy, I've made 2 themes for this phone. Iconic HD was my very first theme EVER. I've never made a theme before Iconic HD. Maybe that's why they look a little amateur. However, I'm pretty damn satisfied with both of my themes and I'm sorry you're not. So how about I just stop making themes all together and let you be happy with your ugly LG theme. I can accept criticism, but what you are giving is not criticism. Do you even know what that is? Criticism is saying you don't like something, but giving a solution or suggestion to correct what you don't like. All you're doing is complaining like a woman on her rag and giving no suggestions on what to fix or how to fix it. An old saying goes "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." You my friend unfortunately are part of the problem. So here's what I'm going to do for you. I'm about to start making 2 more themes tomorrow. After those are done, I will post everything I know about themes and you can try to make one yourself. Keep in mind that I've only owned this phone for 3 weeks and have already pushed out 2 themes, with 2 more coming.
Now to be an a**hole. Do not EVER act like you know me or act like you know how I'm going to react to something. I NEVER said, or acted, like I didn't want criticism. In both posts for my themes, I ask people to say something if they don't like something, or if I missed something. Your post only shows your ignorance and shows how self centered you are. NO ONE is going to make a theme specifically for YOU. It's about making something that EVERYONE likes. If you are the only person out of 100 that doesn't like my theme, then there's no way in hell I'm going to change it just for YOU. You obviously know nothing about developing or about themeing or you would just say "Hey I don't like anything this guy has put out, so I'm going to to make something myself." As mtmichaelson said, if you don't like it, DON'T FLASH IT!
It's really hard to keep my cool but I'm trying my best here. Suggest something you want to see, or do it yourself. Until then, keep your noob mouth shut and stop showing everyone how much of a self centered idiot you are.
Now I'm going to stop bashing you because I'm probably going to get banned for this post anyway. If I do, then hopefully I can come back eventually and finish these 2 themes. If I don't get banned then they will be out very soon (like tomorrow). Maybe you can come up with something by then.
Sorry to the mods about this post. I apologize for my actions but I am still going to post this due to being sick and tired of ungrateful people that only want to complain about something and not offer any help on the subject.

I like the screen shots of the themes that were made. Some people are just ungrateful little punks that like to make waves. To the development of the LG roms and themes for this phone keep it up. I was looking at rooting but I can't figure out the downgrade part of it. Seems that my computer is not compatible to do it for some reason.
Keep up the work on these phones. I for one love this phone and like to see the development of it get better and better. Hope to see one day a one click root like there was for the Eris and be able to root V6 or Gingerbread when it drops.
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In response to the troll. Please stop feeding him. It'll only come back for more
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and that's why I like Rootzwiki better! lol. Too bad the Revo community is almost non existent there.

The Revo community seems to exist in small pockets here and there. We're like a scattered pygmy tribe. Tragic.

don't rely on iot too much.h.

kaonix said:
I agree, an miui theme would be awesome. And with all due respect, i do appreciate the effort however the themes i have seen on this forum at least look pretty amateur. Again, like i said, i do appreciate the effort but they just dont do it for me. Take offense if u wish, im sure u will, but beauty is subjective, and if u want no criticism, dont put ur work out to be judged.
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Expression of ones opinion does not make one a troll. If someone does not like something you do c'est la vie. Move on. He also makes a valid point. If you do not want feed back or criticism on your work, do not release it to the public. You cannot please 100% of the people 100% of the time. While his statement lacked a little tact it does make a point. Beauty is subjective. You have to take 2 things into account... 1. It is the internet... 2. It is the internet...
water off a ducks back gents...

I think that all of the roms and themes have been great for this phone they all make the phone better and gives it a little character instead of it just being a genetic looking phone keep up the great work guys
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Haro912 said:
In response to the troll. Please stop feeding him. It'll only come back for more
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Are you saying people are dicks on the Internet just because they can be?
It all makes so much sense now...

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will cyanogen ever start making roms for eris?

if Not, lets put a petition together and start protesting. Lol.
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iflip said:
if Not, lets put a petition together and start protesting. Lol.
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chances are that he wont make a rom for the eris. i want it too, but the only thing you can do is just wait and see. he probably knows of all the people that want his rom so no use in bugging him, which could cause him to not come here and port it for us.
LOL I was at work and all day I was planning on asking this same question when I got off!!
Probably not, few years ago Google had issued him cease and desist order as result of early release of market app in his ROM before official launch. Ever since that day he was not allowed to included anything that are Google's, e.g. IM, Map, etc... even the driver for GSM itself, in fact he had to write his own driver to work with GSM signal, it's like asking him to do CDMA as well. Only thing we can do is have someone to port his release, using his framework and such and that might just work.
Feel free to ask him to give you his source code so that you can port it over to eris, I'm sure he'll be more than happy to do so.
I don't think he would. Right now he's only releasing N1 and G1/Magic roms because he owns a N1 and I think his wife and friends own G1's. Maybe if someone gave him an Eris then he would start? and I think he recently included the Motorola Droid because someone else ported his rom to it and I guess he continued the dev process, but don't take my word for all that lol. And if anything just ask him on http://twitter.com/cyanogen
By the way, I think this should belong in the General and not the Themes and Apps forum...
It looks like someone contacted him about it looking at his twitter he either needs to get an eris or a dev that has one to work out a port.
Cyanogen on Eric
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Its not an htc rom with stuff taken out,
its better
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holys*** u ported cynagon mod?????
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Framework:
Its almost there, yes. I have things to work on.
Donators get first dibs if they want to test when its testable
Sorry guys, but its the only way I can thank for for their generosity
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Looks like the Eris might be getting cyanogen after all
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Framework:
Looks like the Eris might be getting cyanogen after all
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It's great to see someone already on this, I was about to take up on this porting project myself LOL. Maybe you should start your own thread where we can watch the development and keep us all in loop? Well that's up to you... if not, I'll understand.
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Lets just say its never been released to the eris before.
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holys*** u ported cynagon mod?????
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Framework:
Its almost there, yes. I have things to work on.
Donators get first dibs if they want to test when its testable
Sorry guys, but its the only way
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Looks like the Eris might be getting cyanogen after all
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Actually their are three devs trying to make it work on the Eris each working on their own :/....
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shady to say donators will be first to test once its available, i thought those days were over. apparently i was wrong. i guess greed once again is the top dog.
glad im working on my own rendition..which in fact i will pass around like a joint in the 70's..
SoCalSpecialist said:
shady to say donators will be first to test once its available, i thought those days were over. apparently i was wrong. i guess greed once again is the top dog.
glad im working on my own rendition..which in fact i will pass around like a joint in the 70's..
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look man this Frame is probably in junior high if hes taking the regents like he said a little while back and as of he has created the hands down best Eris rom. Hes a young adult whos running circles around most of us. Hes going to give the rom out for free but if he wants to give some appreciation to the people who have helped support him, so be it.
If in about 200 pages of forum posts on Evil Eris this is only issue you have with him, I think its fair to say were not on the dawn of the Sith empire of greed. I think he probably said something a bit hastily and it shouldn't be blown out of proportion.
Once again Thanks frame for making the best Eris rom. I think i say this for tons of people, we appreciate the work you do and let us know anything we can do to return the favor!
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look man this Frame is probably in junior high if hes taking the regents like he said a little while back and as of he has created the hands down best Eris rom. Hes a young adult whos running circles around most of us. Hes going to give the rom out for free but if he wants to give some appreciation to the people who have helped support him, so be it.
If in about 200 pages of forum posts on Evil Eris this is only issue you have with him, I think its fair to say were not on the dawn of the Sith empire of greed. I think he probably said something a bit hastily and it shouldn't be blown out of proportion.
Once again Thanks frame for making the best Eris rom. I think i say this for tons of people, we appreciate the work you do and let us know anything we can do to return the favor!
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where i like frameworks rom .... i would definitely disagree as to what may or may not be "hands down" the best rom ..... what is the best depends on the users likes, dislikes and needs .....
donations ...I have nothing against them .....
but there are alot of developers here that work just as hard .....
so the only thing that i see is clearly hands down the best....is the Android community and the openness of it which brings alot of choices
jvward said:
look man this Frame is probably in junior high if hes taking the regents like he said a little while back and as of he has created the hands down best Eris rom. Hes a young adult whos running circles around most of us. Hes going to give the rom out for free but if he wants to give some appreciation to the people who have helped support him, so be it.
If in about 200 pages of forum posts on Evil Eris this is only issue you have with him, I think its fair to say were not on the dawn of the Sith empire of greed. I think he probably said something a bit hastily and it shouldn't be blown out of proportion.
Once again Thanks frame for making the best Eris rom. I think i say this for tons of people, we appreciate the work you do and let us know anything we can do to return the favor!
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thank u for ur splendid post..
frame and i speak and have no standing issue..i just have different views on certain things, donations being one of them tis all a matter of voicing my opinion is all i did.
now with that being said, and since u brought it up, i would so welcome "Order 66" considering i am a fan of the sith empire..
no seriously..i would.
thank u annnnnd buenos nachos.
dont shoot me, but what makes cyanogen so great? i mean we have some sick ass roms.
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dont shoot me, but what makes cyanogen so great? i mean we have some sick ass roms.
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personally..i think he is probably one of THE BEST, ( stating my opinion again uh ohhh ) ROM creators the android community have seen..just like Mighty Mike is for the Windows Platform.
all around stability and his willingness to continue to strive and stay one step ahead of the game is what keeps his roms so uniquely intact and on top.
....**** u would think im his road manager or something LOL
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dont shoot me, but what makes cyanogen so great? i mean we have some sick ass roms.
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CyanogenMOD is a very small light rom that is super fast, looks really nice, has OTA updates, and is just really sleek and slick.
Cool SoCalSpecialist,
Sorry I didnt mean to come off hard, but I didn't want this guy to take heat He works to hard to be putting up with it. And I agree with you "best rom" may not be the right phrase, but I think "rom to beat" in a number of different categories would be a fair thing to say
And a note on the community. The Android community is awesome. I am currently working on getting a CCNA and a MSCE, but as soon as that's done, I would like to come back to Xda and get more involved as a developer Everyone here who develops is inspiring to those of us in IT with ****ty jobs Reading this forum helps me keep my sanity while getting support calls from people who don't know how to re-size windows.
Thanks again Frame and everyone else who is part of XDA!

Desire Z source code released

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Just noticed this on AndroidCentral. Apologies if posted already. Steps toward new sense
Just to clear this up, this is the kernel source.
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Just to clear this up, this is the kernel source.
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Good to know,. Although this literally has nothing to do with us
Edit; quoted wrong person, but you get the point.
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jdkoreclipse said:
Good to know,. Although this literally has nothing to do with us
Edit; quoted wrong person, but you get the point.
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Maybe he was informing people who are trying to port the Z ROM to the Incredible?
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Maybe he was informing people who are trying to port the Z ROM to the Incredible?
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I'm trying.... I know a kernel source is near useless for us, but great news to hear of progress.
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That is exactly why I posted it. The name Incdoes ring any bells? How about Ihtfp or his incorporation of new sense in to skyraider? Sorry jdk, not everyone is all about jdkevolution or blackhawk, or whatever your daily created rom is.
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That is exactly why I posted it. The name Incdoes ring any bells? How about Ihtfp or his incorporation of new sense in to skyraider? Sorry jdk, not everyone is all about jdkevolution or blackhawk, or whatever your daily created rom is.
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TheIncredibleJ said:
That is exactly why I posted it. The name Incdoes ring any bells? How about Ihtfp or his incorporation of new sense in to skyraider? Sorry jdk, not everyone is all about jdkevolution or blackhawk, or whatever your daily created rom is.
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Thanks - anytime a source is posted is good. It may not be for the Inc, but there may be things in the code that a dev reads and says "Wow, I didn't think of that".
JD, you have been back from ban for only a few days, but drama still follows you
Jdk it is useless for someone like you who does not know what to do with it but the others may use it to get the camera working in the desire hd port. Hahah
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I'm trying.... I know a kernel source is near useless for us, but great news to hear of progress.
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You're trying?
Advice: Stop trying.
I'm sure he's bitter over me calling him out in the past so he had to use his "community standing" and post count belittle me. My post count is miniscule for a reason. If I don't know something, I research. If I don't have something to contribute, I keep quiet. I don't pretend to know things when I don't. So jdk quit acting like the 12 year old we all know you are, and start acting like the 23 year old college student you pretend to be. I posted Z code with good intentions and not just to see myself speak. I have seen nothing but improved development when code is released. Look at kernels we all use by posters on xda. They are all updated with latest code from htc, and thus we reap stability and functionality benefits. Willing to bet the devs here utilize something from that code, and do it before official new sense comes to us.
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I'm sure he's bitter over me calling him out in the past so he had to use his "community standing" and post count belittle me. My post count is miniscule for a reason. If I don't know something, I research. If I don't have something to contribute, I keep quiet. I don't pretend to know things when I don't. So jdk quit acting like the 12 year old we all know you are, and start acting like the 23 year old college student you pretend to be. I posted Z code with good intentions and not just to see myself speak. I have seen nothing but improved development when code is released. Look at kernels we all use by posters on xda. They are all updated with latest code from htc, and thus we reap stability and functionality benefits. Willing to bet the devs here utilize something from that code, and do it before official new sense comes to us.
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I was man enough to pm you and admit i was wrong...but im sorry, and i will edit all my posts.
Lets let this go...last thing the forums need is bitterness..
SO good find with the code, and hopefully we can get cam working
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Lets let this go...last thing the forums need is bitterness..
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Then...Why are you stirring up stuff?
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Then...Why are you stirring up stuff?
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I apologized for my douchebagggery.
jdkoreclipse said:
I was man enough to pm you and admit i was wrong...but im sorry, and i will edit all my posts.
Lets let this go...last thing the forums need is bitterness..
SO good find with the code, and hopefully we can get cam working
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Just read pm i did not see it before. I accept the apology. Let me add a few things. I think we can all agree your not being honest with your real identity and background. Just be real man. No one is gonna look down on you because your a younger. Why live a lie? Im sure im not the only one who thinks you have a lot of potential as far as developing goes. But your not there yet. Get educated, get experience, and just observe for a while. Its ok to sit on the sidelines while learning. You dont need to dev to be accepted. We can clearly see that you have no real developing or coding experience, and in reality dont have a highschool diploma yet. You are young, slow down. This doesnt mean you cant learn as you go, but i reiterate, be real. I no doubt speak for all of us when i say no one wants to hear your bold and inaccurate statements anymore. Your young and just dont have any qualification or justification for most of the things you do and say. Also i will point out that I could never do what you have done with computing at your age, so props to you. With this said, im sure the entire community forgives you for the past but show them that you deserve their forgiveness. No more bold statements, no more "factual opinions", no more relabeling others' roms and calling them your own (,even when credit is given), and lastly there is other ways of contributing to the community without making roms and themes. There would be no drama, bans, or threads like this that generally make this place counterproductive
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Just read pm i did not see it before. I accept the apology. Let me add a few things. I think we can all agree your not being honest with your real identity and background. Just be real man. No one is gonna look down on you because your a younger. Why live a lie? Im sure im not the only one who thinks you have a lot of potential as far as developing goes. But your not there yet. Get educated, get experience, and just observe for a while. Its ok to sit on the sidelines while learning. You dont need to dev to be accepted. We can clearly see that you have no real developing or coding experience, and in reality dont have a highschool diploma yet. You are young, slow down. This doesnt mean you cant learn as you go, but i reiterate, be real. I no doubt speak for all of us when i say no one wants to hear your bold and inaccurate statements anymore. Your young and just dont have any qualification or justification for most of the things you do and say. Also i will point out that I could never do what you have done with computing at your age, so props to you. With this said, im sure the entire community forgives you for the past but show them that you deserve their forgiveness. No more bold statements, no more "factual opinions", no more relabeling others' roms and calling them your own (,even when credit is given), and lastly there is other ways of contributing to the community without making roms and themes. There would be no drama, bans, or threads like this that generally make this place counterproductive
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I take your advise...thanks
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[POLL] Should I keep making themes?

Look people. I've made 2 themes for this phone so far. So here's what I'm going to do. I'm making this a poll, if I get enough likes, I'll keep making themes. If not, then I'm done. I'm getting sick and tired of using my time and taking time away from my family to make these themes, only to have people say they "hate them," or "they're too amateur."
I work 26 hour shifts every other day and still have put out 2 themes with alternate versions in 3 weeks. I'm done.
If you actually like my work and appreciated my themes, then this rant is not aimed at you.
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Look people. I've made 2 themes for this phone so far. So here's what I'm going to do. I'm making this a poll, if I get enough likes, I'll keep making themes. If not, then I'm done. I'm getting sick and tired of using my time and taking time away from my family to make these themes, only to have people say they "hate them," or "they're too amateur."
I work 26 hour shifts every other day and still have put out 2 themes with alternate versions in 3 weeks. I'm done.
If you actually like my work and appreciated my themes, then this rant is not aimed at you.
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I really hope you don't stop. I love the themes.
If you're not having fun doing it, then don't do it. I know I'm not alone in using your themes, but if it's causing more headache than satisfaction, by all means do something else. You aren't here at my beck and call to create the perfect theme. I'd love to see you keep on doing what you're doing, but not at the cost of your happiness. You gotta do what makes you happy, man...
I use your themes. I really appreciate them. Honestly I have NO IDEA why people at complaining. They look great and help deal with the not so attractive stock. Thanks man for everything! I say keep it up.
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I think you are doing great work. I appreciate all the effort that you are making towards our Revo's!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keep up the great work... I am still on Iconic HD!!! But may switch soon. I don't see the negative people putting out any themes
donation fund for the Miui theme
You're doing a great job Spc! Don't let one donkey bring you down. If you gotta take a break then do so, but I will be looking forward to you next theme(s).
If you enjoy doing it, please keep doing it... Love your work! Would hate to see you stop.
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love the themes man keep em coming please
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If you're not having fun doing it, then don't do it. I know I'm not alone in using your themes, but if it's causing more headache than satisfaction, by all means do something else. You aren't here at my beck and call to create the perfect theme. I'd love to see you keep on doing what you're doing, but not at the cost of your happiness. You gotta do what makes you happy, man...
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Haters gonna hate.
I've been using your themes since I got my Revo, but you should do it because it's what you want to do...That way your wife can't get mad at us for you spending "too much damn time on the computer." =D
I think it's fairly safe to say that the main people like your themes. lol
I love ur themes and love how ur helping us revo users.haters gonna hate mad cause they can't make great themes like urself.I know negative feedback would make anyone wanna stop and seems like ur hard work is unappreciated.keep ur head up and the great work ur doing..I say let em hate.thank u for all ur work
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Pushing out the MIUI Theme some time tomorrow! Watch the "Themes" thread!
Same here, love your work. Sorry to all, been a crazy month, just saw this. My daughter was born a month early, so we've been pretty busy.
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Same here, love your work. Sorry to all, been a crazy month, just saw this. My daughter was born a month early, so we've been pretty busy.
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Congrats! All 3 of mine were born early, 2 were over a month. We were very blessed that only 1 of ours had to spend time in the nicu. The longest 13 days of our lives!
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A new start

As of lately our beloved forum has seen some of the worst negativity and bashing I have ever seen. I am not completely innocent in this either. I have made a couple of comments I shouldnt have made too and I apologize to whoever I may have offended. But to be honest this type of behavior and just meanness has to stop. I love XDA and everything we do but we are losing members and developers daily because of all the hate here. If you dont like a rom or whatever work has been done just please keep all the negativity to yourselves. If you have a problem with someone keep it in pm and not in their thread. We have to turn this forum around or we are setting ourselves and our phones up for doom. We have lost alot of good people and maybe if the see the drama has stopped they will come back. I too am on the fence about getting a different phone and moving on but i love this phone. I am capable of building my own roms and themes but I love having a place to share ideas and our work. I am begging my fellow XDA brothers and sisters to help in the effort to make XDA what it once was. With that being said I would like to wish all of you a Merry Christmas and joyous holiday season!
Good stuff man and you are definitely right! Lets stop the bs and get along.....merry christmas xda
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As of lately our beloved forum has seen some of the worst negativity and bashing I have ever seen. I am not completely innocent in this either. I have made a couple of comments I shouldnt have made too and I apologize to whoever I may have offended. But to be honest this type of behavior and just meanness has to stop. I love XDA and everything we do but we are losing members and developers daily because of all the hate here. If you dont like a rom or whatever work has been done just please keep all the negativity to yourselves. If you have a problem with someone keep it in pm and not in their thread. We have to turn this forum around or we are setting ourselves and our phones up for doom. We have lost alot of good people and maybe if the see the drama has stopped they will come back. I too am on the fence about getting a different phone and moving on but i love this phone. I am capable of building my own roms and themes but I love having a place to share ideas and our work. I am begging my fellow XDA brothers and sisters to help in the effort to make XDA what it once was. With that being said I would like to wish all of you a Merry Christmas and joyous holiday season!
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I agree, but it has to start with XDA being able to control this.
They need to start banning people for at least a week or something so they can learn. This is for XDA as a whole not just our community.
This is not the only place where things are getting out of hand.
People won't stop until something is done, until then there will always be someone trolling trying to get a rise out of people.
I am guilty myself of saying things I shouldn't of, but it just gets to me sometimes. Especially since I cant control it, but I at least base my opinion.
I guess we must all do our part as well and start reporting people.
I've also noticed that there is favoritism going around since some have been banned and not others that have done the same if not worse, not gonna name anyone to not start another flame war.
But that's not OK and if that's the case then there's no point on trying.
I hope everyone reads this and does their part. We have a great phone and we must stop if we want some great development to continue.
Powered by the SGSII....
Its gotta be a group effort or it won't change. If someone is being negative then you just ignore them and if it is offensive then report it to a mod and let them handle it. This should be said for Devs too, you dont have to respond to every negative post and get everyone riled up even more then people go to choosing sides , show a little more maturity and only answer questions pertaining to the Rom ive never seen a forum with Devs who get offended so easily .....just ignore and concentrate on the questions about development of your ROM. I hope this turns around and we have a sucessful forum once again cause this is a really great device we have
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I agree, but it has to start with XDA being able to control this.
They need to start banning people for at least a week or something so they can learn. This is for XDA as a whole not just our community.
This is not the only place where things are getting out of hand.
People won't stop until something is done, until then there will always be someone trolling trying to get a rise out of people.
I am guilty myself of saying things I shouldn't of, but it just gets to me sometimes. Especially since I cant control it, but I at least base my opinion.
I guess we must all do our part as well and start reporting people.
I've also noticed that there is favoritism going around since some have been banned and not others that have done the same if not worse, not gonna name anyone to not start another flame war.
But that's not OK and if that's the case then there's no point on trying.
I hope everyone reads this and does their part. We have a great phone and we must stop if we want some great development to continue.
Powered by the SGSII....
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I agree with you there has to be some type of enforcement of the rules and it should be a zero tolerence. There has to be consequences for ones actions, without them members are running a muck. And they should be enforced equally no matter who it is or how popular they are. But we as members have to start this by being diligent about abiding to the rules and reporting those who dont follow them.
I agree ...
Although it is not actual "Negativity" or "bashing" that actually starts most of the trouble ...
It is the fact that , it has become the norm, for people to come here and expect to be spoon fed answers, and if they don't get them, they get upset.
XDA is first and foremost, or at least it was, a development community.
Now what does that mean to the end users, well, it means, you should come here to learn and if you have something to share, to participate.
If you are just coming here to "expect" everyone to feed you the answers just so you can pimp out your phone, that is not what it is about ..
READ READ READ, then you can ask better questions.
I am sure the DEVs and most experienced users here get annoyed, with every right, when people ask the same question , OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER, when with a little reading they could have solved it themselves.
I hope everyone has a great holiday season!!!
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I agree ...
Although it is not actual "Negativity" or "bashing" that actually starts most of the trouble ...
It is the fact that , it has become the norm, for people to come here and expect to be spoon fed answers, and if they don't get them, they get upset.
XDA is first and foremost, or at least it was, a development community.
Now what does that mean to the end users, well, it means, you should come here to learn and if you have something to share, to participate.
If you are just coming here to "expect" everyone to feed you the answers just so you can pimp out your phone, that is not what it is about ..
READ READ READ, then you can ask better questions.
I am sure the DEVs and most experienced users here get annoyed, with every right, when people ask the same question , OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER, when with a little reading they could have solved it themselves.
I hope everyone has a great holiday season!!!
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I too get annoyed when new members or even old members ask the same questions but there is a way to handle it. People are so quick to jump on someone for asking a question then everyone gets defensive and then the fun starts. With the way the threads have been lately you have to read thru 10 pages of pure and utter chaos and crap to find your answer. It does seem that those of us that have been here for awhile want to see a change. I have received alot of pm's in support. I know with some work and help from the mods we can make it the way it was. I am totally committed to this.
LONG time XDA'er here. You Mods these days are really something else. Personally this is the SECOND developer ( Dj_Steve and Mohgk ) I've seen you drive away on 2 of 2 devices in the last 3 months. Statistically you are hurting the forum more than moderating and using your common sense. That has to say something.
All you needed to do was read the threads, warn in threads, and clean up the spatter. I moderate on several other sites. This is just sad and seriously makes me think about alternatives. It been like this for the last 1.5 years here on XDA.
Had you properly moderated, you would have seen the initial posts which flamed the threads. If someone told me my work was unappreciated and garbage after I spent hours on something, I'd be a little miffed too.
In any case, great moderating. Good luck to the other upcoming Devs. Happy holidays everyone
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I think one of the main problems is that due to android's growing popularity, we're seeing a lot more ignorant douchebags in here who just want to take & not give, and who have zero knowledge of forum etiquette. I was a sidekick dev back in the day & xda is sadly starting to remind me a lot of the old Danger forums- a wild jungle of a place where you had to hack through post after post of word-vomit & ignorance before you can actually find any REAL knowledge. Yes, we need to take out the trash & start cracking down on the jackassery. Badly. I'm tired of seeing threads devolve into personal attacks & 8th grade bickering over stupid ****. Its gotten to the point where I hesitate to even post sometimes.
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I think one of the main problems is that due to android's growing popularity, we're seeing a lot more ignorant douchebags in here who just want to take & not give, and who have zero knowledge of forum etiquette. I was a sidekick dev back in the day & xda is sadly starting to remind me a lot of the old Danger forums- a wild jungle of a place where you had to hack through post after post of word-vomit & ignorance before you can actually find any REAL knowledge. Yes, we need to take out the trash & start cracking down on the jackassery. Badly. I'm tired of seeing threads devolve into personal attacks & 8th grade bickering over stupid ****. Its gotten to the point where I hesitate to even post sometimes.
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+1 I agree 100%
I also hesitate to post bc of all the dbags. I've been on xda for a good while now and I've never seen things this bad. Its really frustrating to see all this **** cuz no one behaves like this in real life. I wish ppl would just be chill and not try to be internet thugs. Any who I would really love to see this forum turn around and be more friendly and productive. Well that's my piece lol I'm down to do whatever I can to change this place.
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kabuk1 said:
I think one of the main problems is that due to android's growing popularity, we're seeing a lot more ignorant douchebags in here who just want to take & not give, and who have zero knowledge of forum etiquette. I was a sidekick dev back in the day & xda is sadly starting to remind me a lot of the old Danger forums- a wild jungle of a place where you had to hack through post after post of word-vomit & ignorance before you can actually find any REAL knowledge. Yes, we need to take out the trash & start cracking down on the jackassery. Badly. I'm tired of seeing threads devolve into personal attacks & 8th grade bickering over stupid ****. Its gotten to the point where I hesitate to even post sometimes.
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DITTO!!! Could not agree More ...
The mods just bann everyone its anoyying especialy when they dont know what happens its sad
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Good chance if we all keep talking bad about the MODs in here we will all get banned ...
Problem is HOW they select their MODs, some are great, some just won the popularity contest ....
tcboo said:
I agree ...
Although it is not actual "Negativity" or "bashing" that actually starts most of the trouble ...
It is the fact that , it has become the norm, for people to come here and expect to be spoon fed answers, and if they don't get them, they get upset.
XDA is first and foremost, or at least it was, a development community.
Now what does that mean to the end users, well, it means, you should come here to learn and if you have something to share, to participate.
If you are just coming here to "expect" everyone to feed you the answers just so you can pimp out your phone, that is not what it is about ..
READ READ READ, then you can ask better questions.
I am sure the DEVs and most experienced users here get annoyed, with every right, when people ask the same question , OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER, when with a little reading they could have solved it themselves.
I hope everyone has a great holiday season!!!
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+1 I know I don't know everything but I always try to use the search button to find my answers before starting a new thread or asking in the thread. I really find it annoying when someone asks a question that has been answered in the OP especially. When I do try to help I'll try to point them in the direction but not spoon feed them the link.
I remember when I used to have my Vibrant. Moderators would shut down a thread and clean up the whole thread and then re-open it later on after cleaning up all the bs. Threads still are getting cluttered up with Thank you's and downloading now posts. We have a thanks button for a reason.
Peace & love
" can't we all just get along? "
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mongo41 said:
As of lately our beloved forum has seen some of the worst negativity and bashing I have ever seen. I am not completely innocent in this either. I have made a couple of comments I shouldnt have made too and I apologize to whoever I may have offended. But to be honest this type of behavior and just meanness has to stop. I love XDA and everything we do but we are losing members and developers daily because of all the hate here. If you dont like a rom or whatever work has been done just please keep all the negativity to yourselves. If you have a problem with someone keep it in pm and not in their thread. We have to turn this forum around or we are setting ourselves and our phones up for doom. We have lost alot of good people and maybe if the see the drama has stopped they will come back. I too am on the fence about getting a different phone and moving on but i love this phone. I am capable of building my own roms and themes but I love having a place to share ideas and our work. I am begging my fellow XDA brothers and sisters to help in the effort to make XDA what it once was. With that being said I would like to wish all of you a Merry Christmas and joyous holiday season!
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Well said my friend....hence my signature.
There is enough hate in the world. Why can't we all get along here ...?
mongo41 said:
As of lately our beloved forum has seen some of the worst negativity and bashing I have ever seen. I am not completely innocent in this either. I have made a couple of comments I shouldnt have made too and I apologize to whoever I may have offended. But to be honest this type of behavior and just meanness has to stop. I love XDA and everything we do but we are losing members and developers daily because of all the hate here. If you dont like a rom or whatever work has been done just please keep all the negativity to yourselves. If you have a problem with someone keep it in pm and not in their thread. We have to turn this forum around or we are setting ourselves and our phones up for doom. We have lost alot of good people and maybe if the see the drama has stopped they will come back. I too am on the fence about getting a different phone and moving on but i love this phone. I am capable of building my own roms and themes but I love having a place to share ideas and our work. I am begging my fellow XDA brothers and sisters to help in the effort to make XDA what it once was. With that being said I would like to wish all of you a Merry Christmas and joyous holiday season!
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I agree stop all the bs and grow up.
Agreed. It's like a Damn soap opera in this *****.
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+10000. How do we stop the idiotic few that are ruining it for the majority? Mods have a full time job.
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quest4fire said:
+10000. How do we stop the idiotic few that are ruining it for the majority? Mods have a full time job.
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Use the report button lol
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We are not easy to please

I only joined XDA in October. I use it a lot though due to an unswerving flash addiction.
I see this kind of message a lot in rom threads: 'Hello! I love your rom! It's by far the fastest I've used on XDA. The thing is, the clock is 0.0000000000000000000000000001% off center, and until this bug is sorted out I can't use your rom as my daily driver.'
Are we all getting too picky? It's a bit like saying 'well, thank you for the offer of a free Ferrari, but I don't like the color of the cigarette lighter so for now I'll carry on walking to work.'
Have you ever worked Retail before?
You get tons of people who like what you have to offer and appreciate it so they keep coming back, then you have the people who think the world should revolve around them. The people who believe you owe them something for no apparent reason and the people who like to complain just to complain. They are the ones who sometimes try to act nice but complain over the smallest things and try to pull a fast one on you.You really have to either have patience with them or just completely ignore them because they think you have nothing better to do than to serve their needs/wants. But don't let them take advantage of your hard work and dedication to what you do.
Don't let that evil person make you lose composure, just remain cool and remember all the other people who thanked you for your work and appreciate you doing it for them.
Those people who complain over the little things on a rom complain about everything in their life, and are never satisfied with the way things are going, and are too much of a hassle to please as all they will do is complain some more. Eventually they will just goto another rom and complain there as well.
kmx said:
Have you ever worked Retail before?
You get tons of people who like what you have to offer and appreciate it so they keep coming back, then you have the people who think the world should revolve around them. The people who believe you owe them something for no apparent reason and the people who like to complain just to complain. They are the ones who sometimes try to act nice but complain over the smallest things and try to pull a fast one on you.You really have to either have patience with them or just completely ignore them because they think you have nothing better to do than to serve their needs/wants. But don't let them take advantage of your hard work and dedication to what you do
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Nice analogy, especially has I've worked in retail most of my life. I sometimes feel that the ROM and kernel devs deserve a bit more than the demands they receive. Another favourite of mine is when I'll be reading a thread and someone will randomly say 'no good, no immersive' and nothing else.
Then again, I've barely been here 5 minutes!
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Paradelle said:
I see this kind of message a lot in rom threads: 'Hello! I love your rom! It's by far the fastest I've used on XDA. The thing is, the clock is 0.0000000000000000000000000001% off center, and until this bug is sorted out I can't use your rom as my daily driver.'
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But on the other hand they are using commercial software they have to pay for which is full of bugs and where they are used as beta-testers for the first releases...
But I have to confess, that Microsoft improved over the last couple of years compared to let's say, ehm, windows ME
It only gets worse from here. I hate to say this, and I don't mean to tar everyone with the same brush, but compared to iOS and WP users, Android users are some of the most egotistical, demanding, self-entitled, and utterly immature tech audiences out there, and a lot of users on XDA are even more-so. Most don't give a rat's ass how the development pattern goes, what XDA is for, or the fact that no one is being paid to contribute (there's also a special kind of full-retard XDA user that thinks donations are some sort of contractual payment).
You won't get anywhere trying to reason with these people, as they don't think they're doing anything wrong. It's a losing battle, let them be, and if you really want to, drop your favorite dev at least a thank-you note (if not a donation) in his XDA inbox, letting him/her know you personally appreciate the work being given to you at no cost on someone else's free time.
The longer you spend here, the more you'll be able to split the idiot users from the users who have true respect for this place.
That's another small reason I'm still on the stock ROM. I had to root and found a few tweaks to fix a few legit problems and awesome mods and I'm happy. But I really needed a stable well running phone and got one that I can easily tweak no problem.
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kmx said:
Have you ever worked Retail before?
You get tons of people who like what you have to offer and appreciate it so they keep coming back, then you have the people who think the world should revolve around them. The people who believe you owe them something for no apparent reason and the people who like to complain just to complain. They are the ones who sometimes try to act nice but complain over the smallest things and try to pull a fast one on you.You really have to either have patience with them or just completely ignore them because they think you have nothing better to do than to serve their needs/wants. But don't let them take advantage of your hard work and dedication to what you do.
Don't let that evil person make you lose composure, just remain cool and remember all the other people who thanked you for your work and appreciate you doing it for them.
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Why was I satisfied with the Samsung's Note battery series and disappointed with the Nexus line's?
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dicecuber said:
Why was I satisfied with the Samsung's Note battery series and disappointed with the Nexus line's?
Sent from my Nexus 5
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OP, this is an example of a post to not bother responding to. All it takes is to look at his posting history; "dicecuber" spends most of his time either criticizing the Nexus 5, or posting completely irrelevant "questions" in threads that have nothing to do with them (i.e., he asked in the Nexus 5 Singapore thread "can you chew gum in Singapore").
People that respond to this sort of post only enable it to keep happening.
kmx said:
Have you ever worked Retail before?
You get tons of people who like what you have to offer and appreciate it so they keep coming back, then you have the people who think the world should revolve around them. The people who believe you owe them something for no apparent reason and the people who like to complain just to complain. They are the ones who sometimes try to act nice but complain over the smallest things and try to pull a fast one on you.You really have to either have patience with them or just completely ignore them because they think you have nothing better to do than to serve their needs/wants. But don't let them take advantage of your hard work and dedication to what you do.
Don't let that evil person make you lose composure, just remain cool and remember all the other people who thanked you for your work and appreciate you doing it for them.
Those people who complain over the little things on a rom complain about everything in their life, and are never satisfied with the way things are going, and are too much of a hassle to please as all they will do is complain some more. Eventually they will just goto another rom and complain there as well.
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And you complain about people who complain, if no one complained about anything what a terrible world it would be.
My motto is nothing happens if you don't ask. You don't have to be rude while asking, but if there is something bothering you, speak up. I don't see a problem with trying to perfect your experience. Say I use ROM X, but there's a certain feature in ROM Y that I love. Asking ROM X to include the feature from ROM Y isn't the end of the world. At the very least you'll get a no which may or may not come with an explanation as to why.
I don't believe never being satisfied is a negative. I believe it helps you strive for more which in turns helps you progress. I may be happy, but I'm not satisfied. For me, being satisfied means to accept things as they are and no longer push forward. I'm not saying being satisfied is a bad thing, rather I believe both being satisfied and not being satisfied are both good. Everyone ticks at their own pace, no need for us to all conform.
As for your example, everyone is different. Some people have OCD, through no fault of their own. Something as small as the clock being off centre can throw people off. As long as they aren't being rude, I see no problem in them pointing it out. Regardless of how insignificant the issue may be for you personally, the fact remains it is an issue. Bugs can't be fixed if no one reports them.
LiquidSolstice said:
OP, this is an example of a post to not bother responding to. All it takes is to look at his posting history; "dicecuber" spends most of his time either criticizing the Nexus 5, or posting completely irrelevant "questions" in threads that have nothing to do with them (i.e., he asked in the Nexus 5 Singapore thread "can you chew gum in Singapore").
People that respond to this sort of post only enable it to keep happening.
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i like you :highfive:
I just read on here some guy said he donated and what he was going to get for it. Like the dev owed him something.
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I just read on here some guy said he donated and what he was going to get for it. Like the dev owed him something.
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What's his name?
Anybody who's down for donating w/o knowing where his funds are going is someone I'd like to know.
welcome to xda.. things used to be different... long, long ago...
SOHKis said:
welcome to xda.. things used to be different... long, long ago...
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I agree. I don't know if people do this anymore but the bounty threads always end in drama. Users think a donation is more than that; a legal binding financial commitment. So when a dev doesn't come through they rage or threaten. They forget the definition of donations.
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Paradelle said:
I only joined XDA in October. I use it a lot though due to an unswerving flash addiction.
I see this kind of message a lot in rom threads: 'Hello! I love your rom! It's by far the fastest I've used on XDA. The thing is, the clock is 0.0000000000000000000000000001% off center, and until this bug is sorted out I can't use your rom as my daily driver.'
Are we all getting too picky? It's a bit like saying 'well, thank you for the offer of a free Ferrari, but I don't like the color of the cigarette lighter so for now I'll carry on walking to work.'
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You are not alone with those thoughts.
Over the years XDA has grown from a site made up of just developers, to a site comprised of more users than developers.
With the increase in users comes more non-development posts.
It is a balancing act to keep XDA focused on development and the non-development chatter to a minimum.
I am no going to close this thread.
If anyone has any questions or comments please PM me.
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