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Who Do You Trust

Who do you trust with your phone???? This is not meant to BASH anyone. The purpose of this thread is for all of us to contribute in a way that will give users of this site an opportunity to see others RESPECTFUL opinions and experiences as it relates to the "devs" putting out roms. Who Do YOU Trust??

Get the **** out of here with these stupid threads - its a waste of space, man.

Fail thread is Fail

jabbawalkee said:
Get the **** out of here with these stupid threads - its a waste of space, man.
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[email protected] said:
Fail thread is Fail
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hey jerkkkkks. report it, contribute, or shut up

jabbawalkee said:
Get the **** out of here with these stupid threads - its a waste of space, man.
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Agreed this coming from the guy who reports every thead I have seen of his.

honestly, there is nothing wrong with this thread on xda, but please never post this useless crap in the dev forum

PsychoKilla666 said:
honestly, there is nothing wrong with this thread on xda, but please never post this useless crap in the dev forum
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i understand what you mean, but i put this here because this is where the roms are located. People come to this forum to find roms, and info about them. thanks to all those that have voted so far!

guess i will be seeing this over in Q&A or gen real quickly

Ok, lets see where this leads to

thanks mikey for moving this

jaaronmoody said:
I know this will probably be moved, BUT let's give it a shot. This is not meant to BASH anyone. The purpose of this thread is for all of us to contribute in a way that will give users of this site an opportunity to see others RESPECTFUL opinions and experiences as it relates to the "devs" putting out roms. Who Do YOU Trust??
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Kinda subjective... Obvious choice is Cyanogen. Why even ask?

hey i was right, as soon as i posted my post it was move
who do i trust me, myself and i
who do i distrust everyone
but i support the works of cy, twisted, jac, maxisma and all the honest devs around here
i distrust drizzy though and will never touch anything of his now

Cyanogen is winning the vote, but this isn't to make one out to be better than the other, because they all do different stuff. But there is something to be said about how it is done. In a free market, everyone chooses based upon their own set of criteria.

I trust me and that creepy guy that keeps looking at me when im not looking...
<--- Yeah thats him right there.

This thread is stupid. You said this thread isnt meant to bash on the devs, but your basically doing that with the polls. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the devs mentioned above sees the result and decides to leave xda for good because of crap like this. I seriously see no point in this thread except to put these people in the spotlight. Come on folks, common sense is your friend when it comes to trust.
Lets make a thread about Jaaronpardy or w/e the OP name is, lets put up a poll to see who thinks this guy thread is garbage or not. Seriously tho, who gives a F**K? if the devs above contributes and makes nice roms then hooray!the community is happy, but what the f**k trust got to do with anything? Fail thread is FAIL!

[email protected] said:
This thread is stupid.
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man do i want to smoke

twistedumbrella said:
Kinda subjective... Obvious choice is Cyanogen. Why even ask?
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Yeah, its a question based on opinion of individuals... AKA ...subjective lol, and he asked just so that the community can have a reference for new members, etc, w/e... and no cyanogen may not be obvious to all..
that all aside, lol, i trust cyanogen (myself only for cupcake/donut of course) and kingklick for hero, but MLIGN and maxisma and drizzy all make contributions of what they personally like in a phone also, so really, the best thing for everyone to do would be to make individual custom roms like moto modding is with monster packs lol

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man do i want to smoke
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seriously man, its getting up to here --- lol i could use some "stress" relief (oh and, btw i like this thread , just an fyi lmao)

a good thread to be up right now.
Today, I saw some of the most ridiculous, immature, stupid asinine talk from people that are supposed to have I.Q's above their pants sizes that I have ever seen.
Using ebonics to try and explain how they arent stupid..... calling people names while having NO CLUE what they are talking about.
A guy who thought it was funny because he tried to rip some kids phone off and got caught.
How much attention does one guy need to beg for?
I came here thinking that there would be at least a tiny bit more respect for people then places like PSP and Xbox mod sites where retarded kids run rampant, then I see that all this place mostly is, is people stealing others work and taking credit.. then blaming the persons wok they took.
The first rom I ever used was Drizzys blur....... After seeing the way he talks to people, the way he treats people... hell just the way he types has made me loose any respect I may have had.
I have no clue how roms are made. I would never attempt to make one. But, being as how NO DEVELOPER here actually makes any of these roms makes it the more ridiculous.
You take an image from a phone, and change things around and name it. All these guys do is take someone elses work and slap crap all over it, change some stuff up and call it their own. How about I take windows XP, make 1 wallpaper, change the page file settings and put a bunch of crappy icons and name it "windows crypy xtreme". Sounds retarded doesnt it? Well thats all these guys do.
Ive seen some of the dumbest arguments I have ever seen in my 28 years, on this site between people who are supposed to have half a brain.
There is only so many times I can see "er'ything, dis, dat"... I mean, is it that hard to add that extra correct letter into your english when trying to prove your intelligence? how can you argue with someone when you didnt even make it far enough through school to know how to talk to other humans?
Oh well.... Ive learned enough here in my few weeks to now know what im doing when searching for a rom. I dont care about whos name is on it.
All these roms were leaked, stolen or dumped at some point in time to where anyone with the right knowledge can make their own. Its just sad when some "kids" are some full of themselves they just beg for the attention they can get whether it be good or extremely bad.That shows me that maybe mommy and daddy dont love them very much.... or are just dumber then dirt with crap in it.
After the arguments I saw here today, trying to justify ripping people off for having trust, whining about who stole what first and who is better at altering said stolen content... I think this place is a joke.
It may have been good at 1 point in time, but when you get a bunch of attention starved idiots into a room together, of which some have serious personality issues, it just turns into a big heaping steaming pile of poo.
HEll, I dont even know who deserves credit for what now because this place is so full of BS.
I... Just... its insane really.
Sorry for this rant, but after hours of reading complete and utter retardation all day today and loosing many an I.Q point for reading, I thought this was the only appropriate thread for said rant.
The real question here is, all these guys use STOLEN software, how can you trust any of them?
I dont trust anyone I dont know personally, and Ive made it this far in life. Some of you that are still under 20, trying to act like you are god because you slap a bunch of files together is just... well DUMB.
I mean really.... some of you are supposed to be smart software wise..... How did you get so stupid in every other aspect of life?

[email protected] said:
This thread is stupid. You said this thread isnt meant to bash on the devs, but your basically doing that with the polls.
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no more back and forth, after this, the only one who is bashing anyone is you. I have not voted, nor offered a critical opinion. get over it

[DEV] Blackstone Android development

I'm starting a new thread for discussion focused on development of the linux kernel and android porting. The thread we've been using recently was started by xmoo, who is no longer involved. Another thread started by tuxhero is focused only on his personal project and a lot of user support, so we need a more technical thread.
I'll jazz it up a bit when I get time.

Here's a first contribution.
We don't have enough buttons on the Blackstone. All the builds so far have 4 (receiver up, home, back and receiver down, as per the icons on the bottom of the device). Android is easier to use with a menu button too, so here's a kernel where the bottom row is remapped to 5 buttons. Imagine instead of the 4 icons you have five, with MENU in the middle. The others are shifted outwards slightly to make room for the "invisible" menu button. It's not an ideal solution, but I got used to it pretty quickly.
Instructions: whatever build you're using, unzip and replace the zImage file on the SD card with this one (tested on the 0.2 build from tuxhero's thread)

Hope more techies join this thread to get the desired results.

Personally I'm waiting to see if Tuxhero is actually going to solve any of the hardware problems. I'm open minded about this, on the one hand his previous grand claims came to nothing. On the other hand, he can clearly hack kernel and probably hack android so perhaps there are great things to come. I'd like to see more than a kernel and android build borrowed from other people's projects, or at least if he's going to rebadge open source products, to adhere to the GPL by releasing his sources so others can learn from them. One thing he might need to consider is whether Google's lawyers, in the light of the Cyanogen case, will be happy with him accepting donations while redistributing their IP.

at least he renamed the "name" of this release from "vogue linux" to "blackstone linux"..
was funny to read that..

That's nice guys. Wait i will post link to your thread and get more people to you.
I really like it guy. If i don't see all this crap then i will sleep peace fully now that ur there to keep me
reminded abt my project and get me back to work on my project. Please don't stop guys because you are the reason for my work.

Beautiful. I will try that 5btn mapping, didn't even think it was possible, thanks!

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Personally I'm waiting to see if Tuxhero is actually going to solve any of the hardware problems. I'm open minded about this, on the one hand his previous grand claims came to nothing. On the other hand, he can clearly hack kernel and probably hack android so perhaps there are great things to come. I'd like to see more than a kernel and android build borrowed from other people's projects, or at least if he's going to rebadge open source products, to adhere to the GPL by releasing his sources so others can learn from them. One thing he might need to consider is whether Google's lawyers, in the light of the Cyanogen case, will be happy with him accepting donations while redistributing their IP.
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When i want to start every thing from beginning you are the one who shouted at me now when i accepted my mistake and joined other dev and working together and using old work you are the one shouting again. Are you mentally retarded?
What's ur problem patp? My donation? My Kernel? My Android? My Project?
What the hell is your porblem.

Woah woah woah. Guy's atleast we've seen dome decent progress from Tux aha!
I don't know Tux very well. But he's a very hardworking person, he also contributes a lot to this forum and i'm sure some others too.
i saw in the last project he had how much people like you flamed him, me and a lot of other people stood by him and saw progress, so i'll carry on sticking by him.
Finding funny things to read? aha how pathetic, i'd like to see someone who has never made a mistake of some sort.
The only mistake Tux actually made was releasing android beta in a community where people like you can get to it. However, me, like most other people are thankful for his work, if you don't like it, ignore it, don't joke and flame about it.
Keep up with the good work Tux.

From my opinion, tuxhere is the ONLY reason andorid is working on blackstone. Other teams tried, HE DID IT!
I'm very glad and proud of his project and i think he is the track we need to follow and help.
Tuxhero, you have my entire support.
For all others, i think we can all help and learn but we can't say bad things about tuxhero and his work because when i tmatters to android in blackstone, he is the man!

DanMccoy1 said:
Woah woah woah. Guy's atleast we've seen dome decent progress from Tux aha!
I don't know Tux very well. But he's a very hardworking person, he also contributes a lot to this forum and i'm sure some others too.
i saw in the last project he had how much people like you flamed him, me and a lot of other people stood by him and saw progress, so i'll carry on sticking by him.
Finding funny things to read? aha how pathetic, i'd like to see someone who has never made a mistake of some sort.
The only mistake Tux actually made was releasing android beta in a community where people like you can get to it. However, me, like most other people are thankful for his work, if you don't like it, ignore it, don't joke and flame about it.
Keep up with the good work Tux.
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+1 to DanMccoy1, my support goes to TuxHero too, no offense to patp but I think you are diverting from the topic of your own thread. Neither google nor you or anyone can stop me supporting or donating to TuxHero. If your thread becomes fruitful then I may support/donate you too..
Be cool

I don't like the "fifth invisible button" solution, it's not elegant.
Imho the long press solution tux proposed is better.
Flaming is not the way to have android working on our device...

patp said:
Personally I'm waiting to see if Tuxhero is actually going to solve any of the hardware problems. I'm open minded about this, on the one hand his previous grand claims came to nothing. On the other hand, he can clearly hack kernel and probably hack android so perhaps there are great things to come. I'd like to see more than a kernel and android build borrowed from other people's projects, or at least if he's going to rebadge open source products, to adhere to the GPL by releasing his sources so others can learn from them. One thing he might need to consider is whether Google's lawyers, in the light of the Cyanogen case, will be happy with him accepting donations while redistributing their IP.
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Nice mood you bring in here.
I don't know you, but reading your story you seem a bit frustrated.
And by the way, XDA is all about accepting donations while redistributing stuff....Are you going to warn all the cooks to..c'mon dude..
So i wish you a happy time and good luck in your own topic here.

He's leading the way for other developers too. In an open community like this you can't work against eachother all the time. Tuxhero is trying to bury the waraxe, but patp seem to continue beeing an asshole. Hope it gets sorted out real quick, wouldn't have any of the project dying due to some idiotic personal conflict.

patp atleast from day 1 i am trying to do something and never give up but what u did?
come to xda ones every day post some crap and get away but me i say online on xda 90% of my time i work on this project 80% of my time even in office i work on this project keeping it hide from my boss. When u did some thing then do post some time. If i see another post from you about me then my actions will be very very serious.

Thanks For The +1 pkshr
All im getting from this is how jealous patp is that Tux carried on with his own 'personal project' and succeeded.
patp, if i was you i'd stop it now before i made even more of a fool of myself in front of more people, because people are going to read this, and you may have the odd person that dislikes Tux that flames him for you, but theres always going to be the majority of people backing Tux on anything he does for this community.

tuxhero said:
patp atleast from day 1 i am trying to do something and never give up but what u did?
come to xda ones every day post some crap and get away but me i say online on xda 90% of my time i work on this project 80% of my time even in office i work on this project keeping it hide from my boss. When u did some thing then do post some time. If i see another post from you about me then my actions will be very very serious.
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chill dude..
u know now tht there are many more supporters to u thn agnst u...
so why care abt the lesser majority..
if somebody has a prblm let him have it..
why to let it bother u...
u know ur goal.. achieve it...
who cares abt others...
they like it ----> OK
they dont like it ---> OK..
cheers'
chetan

If you look in the dictionary, you will a very suitable word for this kind of human behaviour. It's called....Jealousy.

tuxhero said:
patp atleast from day 1 i am trying to do something and never give up but what u did?
come to xda ones every day post some crap and get away but me i say online on xda 90% of my time i work on this project 80% of my time even in office i work on this project keeping it hide from my boss. When u did some thing then do post some time. If i see another post from you about me then my actions will be very very serious.
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Dude, FFS! If there were not for guru's like cr2 among others, we would not have any sound on our Blackstone today.
Still, hats of for the releases u have made. Like patp i'm waiting for the next release. Good to see that u are sharing code and progress with the other devs nowadays.
Sorry patp for filling this new dev thread with bull, just wanted to say my opinion.

cvchetan said:
chill dude..
u know now tht there are many more supporters to u thn agnst u...
so why care abt the lesser majority..
if somebody has a prblm let him have it..
why to let it bother u...
u know ur goal.. achieve it...
who cares abt others...
they like it ----> OK
they dont like it ---> OK..
cheers'
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You are correct chetan. But this guy twist words very nicely what ever i do that is wrong for him. what i understood from his words is he want me to close project,thread everything and go away i think he is not happy to see Android running on Blackstone many he works for Microsoft.

will cyanogen ever start making roms for eris?

if Not, lets put a petition together and start protesting. Lol.
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iflip said:
if Not, lets put a petition together and start protesting. Lol.
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chances are that he wont make a rom for the eris. i want it too, but the only thing you can do is just wait and see. he probably knows of all the people that want his rom so no use in bugging him, which could cause him to not come here and port it for us.

LOL I was at work and all day I was planning on asking this same question when I got off!!

Probably not, few years ago Google had issued him cease and desist order as result of early release of market app in his ROM before official launch. Ever since that day he was not allowed to included anything that are Google's, e.g. IM, Map, etc... even the driver for GSM itself, in fact he had to write his own driver to work with GSM signal, it's like asking him to do CDMA as well. Only thing we can do is have someone to port his release, using his framework and such and that might just work.
Feel free to ask him to give you his source code so that you can port it over to eris, I'm sure he'll be more than happy to do so.

I don't think he would. Right now he's only releasing N1 and G1/Magic roms because he owns a N1 and I think his wife and friends own G1's. Maybe if someone gave him an Eris then he would start? and I think he recently included the Motorola Droid because someone else ported his rom to it and I guess he continued the dev process, but don't take my word for all that lol. And if anything just ask him on http://twitter.com/cyanogen

By the way, I think this should belong in the General and not the Themes and Apps forum...

It looks like someone contacted him about it looking at his twitter he either needs to get an eris or a dev that has one to work out a port.

Cyanogen on Eric
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Its not an htc rom with stuff taken out,
its better
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holys*** u ported cynagon mod?????
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Framework:
Its almost there, yes. I have things to work on.
Donators get first dibs if they want to test when its testable
Sorry guys, but its the only way I can thank for for their generosity
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Looks like the Eris might be getting cyanogen after all

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Looks like the Eris might be getting cyanogen after all
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It's great to see someone already on this, I was about to take up on this porting project myself LOL. Maybe you should start your own thread where we can watch the development and keep us all in loop? Well that's up to you... if not, I'll understand.

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holys*** u ported cynagon mod?????
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Framework:
Its almost there, yes. I have things to work on.
Donators get first dibs if they want to test when its testable
Sorry guys, but its the only way
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Looks like the Eris might be getting cyanogen after all
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Actually their are three devs trying to make it work on the Eris each working on their own :/....
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shady to say donators will be first to test once its available, i thought those days were over. apparently i was wrong. i guess greed once again is the top dog.
glad im working on my own rendition..which in fact i will pass around like a joint in the 70's..

SoCalSpecialist said:
shady to say donators will be first to test once its available, i thought those days were over. apparently i was wrong. i guess greed once again is the top dog.
glad im working on my own rendition..which in fact i will pass around like a joint in the 70's..
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look man this Frame is probably in junior high if hes taking the regents like he said a little while back and as of he has created the hands down best Eris rom. Hes a young adult whos running circles around most of us. Hes going to give the rom out for free but if he wants to give some appreciation to the people who have helped support him, so be it.
If in about 200 pages of forum posts on Evil Eris this is only issue you have with him, I think its fair to say were not on the dawn of the Sith empire of greed. I think he probably said something a bit hastily and it shouldn't be blown out of proportion.
Once again Thanks frame for making the best Eris rom. I think i say this for tons of people, we appreciate the work you do and let us know anything we can do to return the favor!

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look man this Frame is probably in junior high if hes taking the regents like he said a little while back and as of he has created the hands down best Eris rom. Hes a young adult whos running circles around most of us. Hes going to give the rom out for free but if he wants to give some appreciation to the people who have helped support him, so be it.
If in about 200 pages of forum posts on Evil Eris this is only issue you have with him, I think its fair to say were not on the dawn of the Sith empire of greed. I think he probably said something a bit hastily and it shouldn't be blown out of proportion.
Once again Thanks frame for making the best Eris rom. I think i say this for tons of people, we appreciate the work you do and let us know anything we can do to return the favor!
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where i like frameworks rom .... i would definitely disagree as to what may or may not be "hands down" the best rom ..... what is the best depends on the users likes, dislikes and needs .....
donations ...I have nothing against them .....
but there are alot of developers here that work just as hard .....
so the only thing that i see is clearly hands down the best....is the Android community and the openness of it which brings alot of choices

jvward said:
look man this Frame is probably in junior high if hes taking the regents like he said a little while back and as of he has created the hands down best Eris rom. Hes a young adult whos running circles around most of us. Hes going to give the rom out for free but if he wants to give some appreciation to the people who have helped support him, so be it.
If in about 200 pages of forum posts on Evil Eris this is only issue you have with him, I think its fair to say were not on the dawn of the Sith empire of greed. I think he probably said something a bit hastily and it shouldn't be blown out of proportion.
Once again Thanks frame for making the best Eris rom. I think i say this for tons of people, we appreciate the work you do and let us know anything we can do to return the favor!
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thank u for ur splendid post..
frame and i speak and have no standing issue..i just have different views on certain things, donations being one of them tis all a matter of voicing my opinion is all i did.
now with that being said, and since u brought it up, i would so welcome "Order 66" considering i am a fan of the sith empire..
no seriously..i would.
thank u annnnnd buenos nachos.

dont shoot me, but what makes cyanogen so great? i mean we have some sick ass roms.

droidkevlar said:
dont shoot me, but what makes cyanogen so great? i mean we have some sick ass roms.
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personally..i think he is probably one of THE BEST, ( stating my opinion again uh ohhh ) ROM creators the android community have seen..just like Mighty Mike is for the Windows Platform.
all around stability and his willingness to continue to strive and stay one step ahead of the game is what keeps his roms so uniquely intact and on top.
....**** u would think im his road manager or something LOL

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dont shoot me, but what makes cyanogen so great? i mean we have some sick ass roms.
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CyanogenMOD is a very small light rom that is super fast, looks really nice, has OTA updates, and is just really sleek and slick.

Cool SoCalSpecialist,
Sorry I didnt mean to come off hard, but I didn't want this guy to take heat He works to hard to be putting up with it. And I agree with you "best rom" may not be the right phrase, but I think "rom to beat" in a number of different categories would be a fair thing to say
And a note on the community. The Android community is awesome. I am currently working on getting a CCNA and a MSCE, but as soon as that's done, I would like to come back to Xda and get more involved as a developer Everyone here who develops is inspiring to those of us in IT with ****ty jobs Reading this forum helps me keep my sanity while getting support calls from people who don't know how to re-size windows.
Thanks again Frame and everyone else who is part of XDA!

join freenode irc channel #sonofskywalker3 to alpha test a new vibrant rom

topic says it all

If it was worth trying out you would have posted it here.
edit: Also, the channel name wouldn't be so stupid.

r0man said:
If it was worth trying out you would have posted it here.
edit: Also, the channel name wouldn't be so stupid.
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it's called beta for a reason, because it's not worth trying out, but i need people who aren't total dicks to help me make it worth trying out.

sonofskywalker3 said:
it's called beta for a reason, because it's not worth trying out, but i need people who aren't total dicks to help me make it worth trying out.
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Beta software is software with a few bugs, you are thinking of alpha. This section is for development, not a place to hold the hands of wannabe devs and WinZippers.

How do I join?

Do I get a free gift if I join? I really wanna join but I wanna make it worth my while

r0man said:
This section is for development, not a place to hold the hands of wannabe devs and WinZippers.
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all i have to say about this is wow.... lmfao... that was great it just made my day lol

r0man said:
Beta software is software with a few bugs, you are thinking of alpha. This section is for development, not a place to hold the hands of wannabe devs and WinZippers.
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check out the fascinate board and then tell me i'm a wannabe. or look at my other topic on here and check out the 2000+ line ROM Manager Manifest.
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How do I join?
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you can either use an irc client like MIRC or the firefox addon Chatzilla, or go to www.freenode.net and sign in to the webchat

r0man said:
Beta software is software with a few bugs, you are thinking of alpha. This section is for development, not a place to hold the hands of wannabe devs and WinZippers.
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woa wtf is your problem? quit trolling his thread cause your mad you can't make ****. I don't give a flying f*** how many posts you have your acting like a straight up dickhead who sounds jealous.people wonder why the devs are slowly leaving xda. its cause of tards like roman thats why.

djquick said:
Do I get a free gift if I join? I really wanna join but I wanna make it worth my while
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I wish i could, but all that you'll get is a chance to help me on my way to getting my rom in ROM manager for you guys.

Free gift= first one to use the rom

r0man... in defense of skywalker... he was just talking about how he was a fascninate dev and was trying to get this rom working on the vibrant... which is actually a pretty awesome task... doing it in a way NO other vibrant dev has done.. .. making it able to download right through rom manager... to tailor the rom install (if i am not mistaken) to include exactly what you wish...
while i think the irc way is a little out of my way... whatever... its his way.. his rom... if you dont like it... dont be a part of it... why call names and such...
y
honestly.. IMHO.. its the negativity like yours that drives the real devs away from xda...

pack said:
all i have to say about this is wow.... lmfao... that was great it just made my day lol
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You're welcome
sonofskywalker3 said:
check out the fascinate board and then tell me i'm a wannabe. or look at my other topic on here and check out the 2000+ line ROM Manager Manifest.
you can either use an irc client like MIRC or the firefox addon Chatzilla, or go to www.freenode.net and sign in to the webchat
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Wow, your stupidity truly boggles the mind! Oh dear, where to begin...
Let us start with your grammar and capitalization. Now, no one here expects anyone else to adhere to the exact guidelines of the English language but for God's sake man, at least capitalize the first letter of the topic. If you don't, people will assume (quite truly) that you are about 13 years old and are attempting to get your 5 minutes of fame.
Next, making a topic in development trying to force people into your IRC channel is ridiculous. You provide NO details whatsoever. No developer in their right minds would consider making a thread about an upcoming project with absolutely no information.
So I decided to look at a thread you made over in the Fascinate forums, here is something you said in it: "Once our great Devs figure out how to..." I stopped reading right there. If you are going to create ROMs, know how to fix ****.
And finally, to your "2000+ line ROM Manager manifest" I could honestly have no less of an idea what you are babbling about.
Also, anyone who recommends ChatZilla should go die for you are the scum of technology lovers everywhere.
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renocivik said:
r0man... in defense of skywalker... he was just talking about how he was a fascninate dev and was trying to get this rom working on the vibrant... which is actually a pretty awesome task... doing it in a way NO other vibrant dev has done.. .. making it able to download right through rom manager... to tailor the rom install (if i am not mistaken) to include exactly what you wish...
while i think the irc way is a little out of my way... whatever... its his way.. his rom... if you dont like it... dont be a part of it... why call names and such...
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honestly.. IMHO.. its the negativity like yours that drives the real devs away from xda...
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Now, now. I am not an unreasonable or jealous person, and I believe you have a legitimate reason for calling me out like this. Let me explain, there are 2 kinds of "developers" that populate the XDA forums; developers (Cyan, Eugene, #TeamWhiskey) and WinZippers (everyone over in the themes section, the OP). The former category deserve much applause for their hardwork, and so do the themers in the latter category. The problem is when people from the second group believe they know anything about Android and decide to run off and "create" a ROM. This results in a legion of clone ROMs created with the Android Kitchen that have a different name and MAYBE a different color notification bar. It is sad and pathetic, and it has claimed the livelihood of the G1 developer forum.
texasrocket said:
woa wtf is your problem? quit trolling his thread cause your mad you can't make ****. I don't give a flying f*** how many posts you have your acting like a straight up dickhead who sounds jealous.people wonder why the devs are slowly leaving xda. its cause of tards like roman thats why.
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First off I want to inform you that my username is not roman, it is r0man. With a zero. #justsayin :roll:
Anywho, that was a bit OT. I am not trolling anyone. I am simply trying to tell people not to waste their time with the OP's bull**** WinZippery. The *real* reason developers leave XDA is because people don't use the search feature which irks them to no end, not "straight up dickhead." My post count is irrelevant and I don't hide behind it so I can act like a pretentious ass, I just like to post a lot.

I have installed Chatzilla what do i Do next?

r0man said:
Now, now. I am not an unreasonable or jealous person, and I believe you have a legitimate reason for calling me out like this. Let me explain, there are 2 kinds of "developers" that populate the XDA forums; developers (Cyan, Eugene, #TeamWhiskey) and WinZippers (everyone over in the themes section, the OP). The former category deserve much applause for their hardwork, and so do the themers in the latter category. The problem is when people from the second group believe they know anything about Android and decide to run off and "create" a ROM. This results in a legion of clone ROMs created with the Android Kitchen that have a different name and MAYBE a different color notification bar. It is sad and pathetic, and it has claimed the livelihood of the G1 developer forum.
First off I want to inform you that my username is not roman, it is r0man. With a zero. #justsayin :roll:
Anywho, that was a bit OT. I am not trolling anyone. I am simply trying to tell people not to waste their time with the OP's bull**** WinZippery. The *real* reason developers leave XDA is because people don't use the search feature which irks them to no end, not "straight up dickhead." My post count is irrelevant and I don't hide behind it so I can act like a pretentious ass, I just like to post a lot.
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Well you are acting like a pretentious ass who likes to post alot. Why are you telling people not to waste their time? Maybe they don't think they are wasting their time. who are you to say that they are? If they want to go try out his rom let them. what does it have to do with you? It sounds to me like you are jealous with your nerd rage. it's pathetic.

texasrocket said:
Well you are acting like a pretentious ass who likes to post alot. Why are you telling people not to waste their time? Maybe they don't think they are wasting their time. who are you to say that they are? If they want to go try out his rom let them. what does it have to do with you? It sounds to me like you are jealous with your nerd rage. it's pathetic.
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What does "jealous with your nerd rage" even mean? That I am jealous of a WinZipper who probably doesn't even know how to compile from source? I think not.

r0man said:
Now, now. I am not an unreasonable or jealous person, and I believe you have a legitimate reason for calling me out like this. Let me explain, there are 2 kinds of "developers" that populate the XDA forums; developers (Cyan, Eugene, #TeamWhiskey) and WinZippers (everyone over in the themes section, the OP). The former category deserve much applause for their hardwork, and so do the themers in the latter category. The problem is when people from the second group believe they know anything about Android and decide to run off and "create" a ROM. This results in a legion of clone ROMs created with the Android Kitchen that have a different name and MAYBE a different color notification bar. It is sad and pathetic, and it has claimed the livelihood of the G1 developer forum.
First off I want to inform you that my username is not roman, it is r0man. With a zero. #justsayin :roll:
Anywho, that was a bit OT. I am not trolling anyone. I am simply trying to tell people not to waste their time with the OP's bull**** WinZippery. The *real* reason developers leave XDA is because people don't use the search feature which irks them to no end, not "straight up dickhead." My post count is irrelevant and I don't hide behind it so I can act like a pretentious ass, I just like to post a lot.
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Though this guy may not be the next JesusFreke or Cyanogen why give him a hard time. It seems he's adding more to the development than you are my friend.we have enough touch holes like you wondering around here. Either:
A. Contribute something development-wise to this forum
B. Create your own forum
C. Stop *****ing at people for trying to contribute what they can.
Stop being a **** just to be a ****. It's not very flattering buckeroo.
Just saying

god someone please delete this topic already. i did not mean to start a flame war. i asked earlier if anyone was interested in what i was offering, it seemed like they were, so i tried to get some people to test it for me in realtime. if i had a vibrant i'd do it myself like i do for the fascinate. but i don't. just trying to bring my idea to other phones. sorry i stepped on your toes. sorry for being a useless winzipper, but everybody's gotta start somewhere.

danr238 said:
Though this guy may not be the next JesusFreke or Cyanogen why give him a hard time. It seems he's adding more to the development than you are my friend.we have enough touch holes like you wondering around here. Either:
A. Contribute something development-wise to this forum
B. Create your own forum
C. Stop *****ing at people for trying to contribute what they can.
Stop being a **** just to be a ****. It's not very flattering buckeroo.
Just saying
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He's not contributing ANYTHING though! All he is doing is attention-whoring, and breaking the rules at the same time (projects without any details/screenshots/etc got jdkoreclipse banned).

Choices!

Does anyone have any idea how development is coming on any NEW roms? Not that im not grateful to the guys that have brought us the two available now, however id like to try something different. None of the currently available roms or themes for that matter really satisfy what im looking for.
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kaonix said:
Does anyone have any idea how development is coming on any NEW roms? Not that im not grateful to the guys that have brought us the two available now, however id like to try something different. None of the currently available roms or themes for that matter really satisfy what im looking for.
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What are you looking for?

Different lol jk
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An miui theme would be delicious
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mtmichaelson said:
What are you looking for?
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Exactly what I was about to ask him. Revolt 1.5 goes above and beyond. My 2 themes (more are coming) look pretty damn good in my opinion. What else does this guy want? Does he think this is the D1 or something?

I have learned to very patient (did I spell that right?) with the development of programs for this phone. I wish it was more popular, but I think given time LG can outshine Samsung. I know they are testing Gingerbread on the REVs, so it shouldn't be too long. It also depends on how friendly LG is with giving developers information. I know its a task beyond that considering LG programming is all over the place, there are files that aren't used, and files placed in weird areas. I would almost expect to see something groovy with in the next month or two. On the other hand, the current Roms for this phone are stellar, and I am very thankful for those who have developed these, and those to come. I was hoping I could get into it, but my work has been very demanding as of late, like wise my family... how dare they want to spend time with me.. damn kids.. damn wife. Keep up the great work boys and girls, and to the others, just wait... the revolution of your dreams is coming.

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markapowell said:
I have learned to very patient (did I spell that right?) with the development of programs for this phone. I wish it was more popular, but I think given time LG can outshine Samsung. I know they are testing Gingerbread on the REVs, so it shouldn't be too long. It also depends on how friendly LG is with giving developers information. I know its a task beyond that considering LG programming is all over the place, there are files that aren't used, and files placed in weird areas. I would almost expect to see something groovy with in the next month or two. On the other hand, the current Roms for this phone are stellar, and I am very thankful for those who have developed these, and those to come. I was hoping I could get into it, but my work has been very demanding as of late, like wise my family... how dare they want to spend time with me.. damn kids.. damn wife. Keep up the great work boys and girls, and to the others, just wait... the revolution of your dreams is coming.
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I regret to inform you that LG will never outshine Samsung when it comes to phones. Sorry.
I do agree that with times, things get better.

I agree, an miui theme would be awesome. And with all due respect, i do appreciate the effort however the themes i have seen on this forum at least look pretty amateur. Again, like i said, i do appreciate the effort but they just dont do it for me. Take offense if u wish, im sure u will, but beauty is subjective, and if u want no criticism, dont put ur work out to be judged.
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kaonix said:
I agree, an miui theme would be awesome. And with all due respect, i do appreciate the effort however the themes i have seen on this forum at least look pretty amateur. Again, like i said, i do appreciate the effort but they just dont do it for me. Take offense if u wish, im sure u will, but beauty is subjective, and if u want no criticism, dont put ur work out to be judged.
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I'm sorry I haven't done good enough for you, and made it pretty enough for you. Next time before I release anything I will contact you for your approval. You are more than welcome to contact me through pm and I can teach you what I know so that you can begin putting out something more "professional" for us all to enjoy. I still don't know what you would like to see implemented into the rom.
I was ok with it all, as more would be better, until that last smart alec comment you made. If you don't like it, that is fine, don't flash it. It may not be for everybody, sorry if you don't like.
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kaonix said:
I agree, an miui theme would be awesome. And with all due respect, i do appreciate the effort however the themes i have seen on this forum at least look pretty amateur. Again, like i said, i do appreciate the effort but they just dont do it for me. Take offense if u wish, im sure u will, but beauty is subjective, and if u want no criticism, dont put ur work out to be judged.
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Maybe you could give an example of a more professional theme...? Constructive criticism is usually taken better and appreciated over negative criticism such as you have given...
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kaonix said:
Take offense if u wish, im sure u will, but beauty is subjective, and if u want no criticism, dont put ur work out to be judged.
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Actually I'm not offended by your stupidity at all. Look guy, I've made 2 themes for this phone. Iconic HD was my very first theme EVER. I've never made a theme before Iconic HD. Maybe that's why they look a little amateur. However, I'm pretty damn satisfied with both of my themes and I'm sorry you're not. So how about I just stop making themes all together and let you be happy with your ugly LG theme. I can accept criticism, but what you are giving is not criticism. Do you even know what that is? Criticism is saying you don't like something, but giving a solution or suggestion to correct what you don't like. All you're doing is complaining like a woman on her rag and giving no suggestions on what to fix or how to fix it. An old saying goes "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." You my friend unfortunately are part of the problem. So here's what I'm going to do for you. I'm about to start making 2 more themes tomorrow. After those are done, I will post everything I know about themes and you can try to make one yourself. Keep in mind that I've only owned this phone for 3 weeks and have already pushed out 2 themes, with 2 more coming.
Now to be an a**hole. Do not EVER act like you know me or act like you know how I'm going to react to something. I NEVER said, or acted, like I didn't want criticism. In both posts for my themes, I ask people to say something if they don't like something, or if I missed something. Your post only shows your ignorance and shows how self centered you are. NO ONE is going to make a theme specifically for YOU. It's about making something that EVERYONE likes. If you are the only person out of 100 that doesn't like my theme, then there's no way in hell I'm going to change it just for YOU. You obviously know nothing about developing or about themeing or you would just say "Hey I don't like anything this guy has put out, so I'm going to to make something myself." As mtmichaelson said, if you don't like it, DON'T FLASH IT!
It's really hard to keep my cool but I'm trying my best here. Suggest something you want to see, or do it yourself. Until then, keep your noob mouth shut and stop showing everyone how much of a self centered idiot you are.
Now I'm going to stop bashing you because I'm probably going to get banned for this post anyway. If I do, then hopefully I can come back eventually and finish these 2 themes. If I don't get banned then they will be out very soon (like tomorrow). Maybe you can come up with something by then.
Sorry to the mods about this post. I apologize for my actions but I am still going to post this due to being sick and tired of ungrateful people that only want to complain about something and not offer any help on the subject.

I like the screen shots of the themes that were made. Some people are just ungrateful little punks that like to make waves. To the development of the LG roms and themes for this phone keep it up. I was looking at rooting but I can't figure out the downgrade part of it. Seems that my computer is not compatible to do it for some reason.
Keep up the work on these phones. I for one love this phone and like to see the development of it get better and better. Hope to see one day a one click root like there was for the Eris and be able to root V6 or Gingerbread when it drops.
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In response to the troll. Please stop feeding him. It'll only come back for more
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and that's why I like Rootzwiki better! lol. Too bad the Revo community is almost non existent there.

The Revo community seems to exist in small pockets here and there. We're like a scattered pygmy tribe. Tragic.

don't rely on iot too much.h.

kaonix said:
I agree, an miui theme would be awesome. And with all due respect, i do appreciate the effort however the themes i have seen on this forum at least look pretty amateur. Again, like i said, i do appreciate the effort but they just dont do it for me. Take offense if u wish, im sure u will, but beauty is subjective, and if u want no criticism, dont put ur work out to be judged.
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Expression of ones opinion does not make one a troll. If someone does not like something you do c'est la vie. Move on. He also makes a valid point. If you do not want feed back or criticism on your work, do not release it to the public. You cannot please 100% of the people 100% of the time. While his statement lacked a little tact it does make a point. Beauty is subjective. You have to take 2 things into account... 1. It is the internet... 2. It is the internet...
water off a ducks back gents...

I think that all of the roms and themes have been great for this phone they all make the phone better and gives it a little character instead of it just being a genetic looking phone keep up the great work guys
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Haro912 said:
In response to the troll. Please stop feeding him. It'll only come back for more
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Are you saying people are dicks on the Internet just because they can be?
It all makes so much sense now...