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Clogging up Threads with Useless Posts

Well I figure this is the proper place to put this, odds are almost no one will read it, but whatever. I've been around here for not yet a year and have learned a lot, and I have been amazed by the graphic and programming talents of many people.
While I understand a certain impatience/anxiety when waiting for a new release (ROM, theme, whatever...) from your favorite cook, designer, etc. there really isn't a need to clog the discussion thread up with posts that just say you are waiting. It doesn't contribute suggestions to the author, or help others.
On those lines...most people in here have lives outside of this forum, and programming, and hopefully our phones (don't get me wrong I love my phone, but I'll put it down in a heartbeat to go play with my daughter). So when you are anxiously waiting for that release posting comments like "oh [insert author here] hasn't posted an update in so it must mean they abandoned the project" is inconsiderate.
Is there a chance that they abandoned it, well yes, but odds are they would post something saying so. Most likely life got in the way (family, friends, going on holiday, computer crashing, programs failing, fire, flood, famine, etc). Give them time, most likely they will deliver what they promised. Complaining about the time it takes for someone to develop a FREE program/theme is hard for me to understand.
Well there is my 2cents...so comment away, flame, ban me, what ever. I just had to put it out there, and I wanted to do it somewhere other than the last thread I read that set me on this rant.

+1 I agree. Mind If I link to this in my Signature?

go for it. i've read simmilar rants/postings on this, but they are buried inside of the clogged up threads.

uiskibum said:
...they are buried inside of the clogged up threads.
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Ha! Funniest thing I've seen all day. So true.

I can't wait for you to release Clogging post 2.0 Discussion Thread...but you havn't updated us on it in nearly 24 hours...sorry people I just don't think it's going to be released.

burgertime said:
I can't wait for you to release Clogging post 2.0 Discussion Thread...but you havn't updated us on it in nearly 24 hours...sorry people I just don't think it's going to be released.
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+1 waiting for update...
EDIT: at 14:08, I havent heard from him in 1 minute, maybe hes abandoned this project.
Seriously though, I agree with what your saying. Most of the important threads are full of useless requests, moans etc, etc.
Dave

Waiting for v2!

wow...does it bother u that much, there is ALWAYS someone that is going to make a useless post/thread, i do it alllllllll the time hahahaha

rico002 said:
wow...does it bother u that much, there is ALWAYS someone that is going to make a useless post/thread, i do it alllllllll the time hahahaha
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Exactly the point that uiskibum is trying to make. People like u who do this kind of inconsiderate thing alllllll the time is exactly the reason why so many great developers/programmers/skinners left the forum.

zinc said:
Exactly the point that uiskibum is trying to make. People like u who do this kind of inconsiderate thing alllllll the time is exactly the reason why so many great developers/programmers/skinners left the forum.
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oh i am so sry!!! i take full responsibilty for my actions. i understand what he is sayin, my most viewed thread prolly my warez thread that i made lol which was like how long ago...all of my almost 200 post r prolly useless, look man give me ur solution to this prob. and like he said "most people in here have lives outside of this forum" so get one....i reiterate this is nvr gonna stop someone will always make a redudant thread/post
"everytime u use warez, god kills a kitten"
but
everytime u whine bout post/threads god kills a CAT and an emu"

rico002 said:
oh i am so sry!!! i take full responsibilty for my actions. i understand what he is sayin, my most viewed thread prolly my warez thread that i made lol which was like how long ago...all of my almost 200 post r prolly useless, look man give me ur solution to this prob. and like he said "most people in here have lives outside of this forum" so get one....i reiterate this is nvr gonna stop someone will always make a redudant thread/post
"everytime u use warez, god kills a kitten"
but
everytime u whine bout post/threads god kills a CAT and an emu"
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Funny...
The thing is that this is the nature of 'useful information'.
If the site was another drone the nature of the post would reflect that. They would be limited. But XDA is a site that has far reaching uses and applications, its only right that there's going to be some runoff.
This site is an example of the power of a truly informative forum.

Who Do You Trust

Who do you trust with your phone???? This is not meant to BASH anyone. The purpose of this thread is for all of us to contribute in a way that will give users of this site an opportunity to see others RESPECTFUL opinions and experiences as it relates to the "devs" putting out roms. Who Do YOU Trust??

Get the **** out of here with these stupid threads - its a waste of space, man.

Fail thread is Fail

jabbawalkee said:
Get the **** out of here with these stupid threads - its a waste of space, man.
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[email protected] said:
Fail thread is Fail
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hey jerkkkkks. report it, contribute, or shut up

jabbawalkee said:
Get the **** out of here with these stupid threads - its a waste of space, man.
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Agreed this coming from the guy who reports every thead I have seen of his.

honestly, there is nothing wrong with this thread on xda, but please never post this useless crap in the dev forum

PsychoKilla666 said:
honestly, there is nothing wrong with this thread on xda, but please never post this useless crap in the dev forum
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i understand what you mean, but i put this here because this is where the roms are located. People come to this forum to find roms, and info about them. thanks to all those that have voted so far!

guess i will be seeing this over in Q&A or gen real quickly

Ok, lets see where this leads to

thanks mikey for moving this

jaaronmoody said:
I know this will probably be moved, BUT let's give it a shot. This is not meant to BASH anyone. The purpose of this thread is for all of us to contribute in a way that will give users of this site an opportunity to see others RESPECTFUL opinions and experiences as it relates to the "devs" putting out roms. Who Do YOU Trust??
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Kinda subjective... Obvious choice is Cyanogen. Why even ask?

hey i was right, as soon as i posted my post it was move
who do i trust me, myself and i
who do i distrust everyone
but i support the works of cy, twisted, jac, maxisma and all the honest devs around here
i distrust drizzy though and will never touch anything of his now

Cyanogen is winning the vote, but this isn't to make one out to be better than the other, because they all do different stuff. But there is something to be said about how it is done. In a free market, everyone chooses based upon their own set of criteria.

I trust me and that creepy guy that keeps looking at me when im not looking...
<--- Yeah thats him right there.

This thread is stupid. You said this thread isnt meant to bash on the devs, but your basically doing that with the polls. I wouldn't be surprised if one of the devs mentioned above sees the result and decides to leave xda for good because of crap like this. I seriously see no point in this thread except to put these people in the spotlight. Come on folks, common sense is your friend when it comes to trust.
Lets make a thread about Jaaronpardy or w/e the OP name is, lets put up a poll to see who thinks this guy thread is garbage or not. Seriously tho, who gives a F**K? if the devs above contributes and makes nice roms then hooray!the community is happy, but what the f**k trust got to do with anything? Fail thread is FAIL!

[email protected] said:
This thread is stupid.
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man do i want to smoke

twistedumbrella said:
Kinda subjective... Obvious choice is Cyanogen. Why even ask?
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Yeah, its a question based on opinion of individuals... AKA ...subjective lol, and he asked just so that the community can have a reference for new members, etc, w/e... and no cyanogen may not be obvious to all..
that all aside, lol, i trust cyanogen (myself only for cupcake/donut of course) and kingklick for hero, but MLIGN and maxisma and drizzy all make contributions of what they personally like in a phone also, so really, the best thing for everyone to do would be to make individual custom roms like moto modding is with monster packs lol

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man do i want to smoke
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seriously man, its getting up to here --- lol i could use some "stress" relief (oh and, btw i like this thread , just an fyi lmao)

a good thread to be up right now.
Today, I saw some of the most ridiculous, immature, stupid asinine talk from people that are supposed to have I.Q's above their pants sizes that I have ever seen.
Using ebonics to try and explain how they arent stupid..... calling people names while having NO CLUE what they are talking about.
A guy who thought it was funny because he tried to rip some kids phone off and got caught.
How much attention does one guy need to beg for?
I came here thinking that there would be at least a tiny bit more respect for people then places like PSP and Xbox mod sites where retarded kids run rampant, then I see that all this place mostly is, is people stealing others work and taking credit.. then blaming the persons wok they took.
The first rom I ever used was Drizzys blur....... After seeing the way he talks to people, the way he treats people... hell just the way he types has made me loose any respect I may have had.
I have no clue how roms are made. I would never attempt to make one. But, being as how NO DEVELOPER here actually makes any of these roms makes it the more ridiculous.
You take an image from a phone, and change things around and name it. All these guys do is take someone elses work and slap crap all over it, change some stuff up and call it their own. How about I take windows XP, make 1 wallpaper, change the page file settings and put a bunch of crappy icons and name it "windows crypy xtreme". Sounds retarded doesnt it? Well thats all these guys do.
Ive seen some of the dumbest arguments I have ever seen in my 28 years, on this site between people who are supposed to have half a brain.
There is only so many times I can see "er'ything, dis, dat"... I mean, is it that hard to add that extra correct letter into your english when trying to prove your intelligence? how can you argue with someone when you didnt even make it far enough through school to know how to talk to other humans?
Oh well.... Ive learned enough here in my few weeks to now know what im doing when searching for a rom. I dont care about whos name is on it.
All these roms were leaked, stolen or dumped at some point in time to where anyone with the right knowledge can make their own. Its just sad when some "kids" are some full of themselves they just beg for the attention they can get whether it be good or extremely bad.That shows me that maybe mommy and daddy dont love them very much.... or are just dumber then dirt with crap in it.
After the arguments I saw here today, trying to justify ripping people off for having trust, whining about who stole what first and who is better at altering said stolen content... I think this place is a joke.
It may have been good at 1 point in time, but when you get a bunch of attention starved idiots into a room together, of which some have serious personality issues, it just turns into a big heaping steaming pile of poo.
HEll, I dont even know who deserves credit for what now because this place is so full of BS.
I... Just... its insane really.
Sorry for this rant, but after hours of reading complete and utter retardation all day today and loosing many an I.Q point for reading, I thought this was the only appropriate thread for said rant.
The real question here is, all these guys use STOLEN software, how can you trust any of them?
I dont trust anyone I dont know personally, and Ive made it this far in life. Some of you that are still under 20, trying to act like you are god because you slap a bunch of files together is just... well DUMB.
I mean really.... some of you are supposed to be smart software wise..... How did you get so stupid in every other aspect of life?

[email protected] said:
This thread is stupid. You said this thread isnt meant to bash on the devs, but your basically doing that with the polls.
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no more back and forth, after this, the only one who is bashing anyone is you. I have not voted, nor offered a critical opinion. get over it

[DEV] Blackstone Android development

I'm starting a new thread for discussion focused on development of the linux kernel and android porting. The thread we've been using recently was started by xmoo, who is no longer involved. Another thread started by tuxhero is focused only on his personal project and a lot of user support, so we need a more technical thread.
I'll jazz it up a bit when I get time.

Here's a first contribution.
We don't have enough buttons on the Blackstone. All the builds so far have 4 (receiver up, home, back and receiver down, as per the icons on the bottom of the device). Android is easier to use with a menu button too, so here's a kernel where the bottom row is remapped to 5 buttons. Imagine instead of the 4 icons you have five, with MENU in the middle. The others are shifted outwards slightly to make room for the "invisible" menu button. It's not an ideal solution, but I got used to it pretty quickly.
Instructions: whatever build you're using, unzip and replace the zImage file on the SD card with this one (tested on the 0.2 build from tuxhero's thread)

Hope more techies join this thread to get the desired results.

Personally I'm waiting to see if Tuxhero is actually going to solve any of the hardware problems. I'm open minded about this, on the one hand his previous grand claims came to nothing. On the other hand, he can clearly hack kernel and probably hack android so perhaps there are great things to come. I'd like to see more than a kernel and android build borrowed from other people's projects, or at least if he's going to rebadge open source products, to adhere to the GPL by releasing his sources so others can learn from them. One thing he might need to consider is whether Google's lawyers, in the light of the Cyanogen case, will be happy with him accepting donations while redistributing their IP.

at least he renamed the "name" of this release from "vogue linux" to "blackstone linux"..
was funny to read that..

That's nice guys. Wait i will post link to your thread and get more people to you.
I really like it guy. If i don't see all this crap then i will sleep peace fully now that ur there to keep me
reminded abt my project and get me back to work on my project. Please don't stop guys because you are the reason for my work.

Beautiful. I will try that 5btn mapping, didn't even think it was possible, thanks!

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Personally I'm waiting to see if Tuxhero is actually going to solve any of the hardware problems. I'm open minded about this, on the one hand his previous grand claims came to nothing. On the other hand, he can clearly hack kernel and probably hack android so perhaps there are great things to come. I'd like to see more than a kernel and android build borrowed from other people's projects, or at least if he's going to rebadge open source products, to adhere to the GPL by releasing his sources so others can learn from them. One thing he might need to consider is whether Google's lawyers, in the light of the Cyanogen case, will be happy with him accepting donations while redistributing their IP.
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When i want to start every thing from beginning you are the one who shouted at me now when i accepted my mistake and joined other dev and working together and using old work you are the one shouting again. Are you mentally retarded?
What's ur problem patp? My donation? My Kernel? My Android? My Project?
What the hell is your porblem.

Woah woah woah. Guy's atleast we've seen dome decent progress from Tux aha!
I don't know Tux very well. But he's a very hardworking person, he also contributes a lot to this forum and i'm sure some others too.
i saw in the last project he had how much people like you flamed him, me and a lot of other people stood by him and saw progress, so i'll carry on sticking by him.
Finding funny things to read? aha how pathetic, i'd like to see someone who has never made a mistake of some sort.
The only mistake Tux actually made was releasing android beta in a community where people like you can get to it. However, me, like most other people are thankful for his work, if you don't like it, ignore it, don't joke and flame about it.
Keep up with the good work Tux.

From my opinion, tuxhere is the ONLY reason andorid is working on blackstone. Other teams tried, HE DID IT!
I'm very glad and proud of his project and i think he is the track we need to follow and help.
Tuxhero, you have my entire support.
For all others, i think we can all help and learn but we can't say bad things about tuxhero and his work because when i tmatters to android in blackstone, he is the man!

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Woah woah woah. Guy's atleast we've seen dome decent progress from Tux aha!
I don't know Tux very well. But he's a very hardworking person, he also contributes a lot to this forum and i'm sure some others too.
i saw in the last project he had how much people like you flamed him, me and a lot of other people stood by him and saw progress, so i'll carry on sticking by him.
Finding funny things to read? aha how pathetic, i'd like to see someone who has never made a mistake of some sort.
The only mistake Tux actually made was releasing android beta in a community where people like you can get to it. However, me, like most other people are thankful for his work, if you don't like it, ignore it, don't joke and flame about it.
Keep up with the good work Tux.
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+1 to DanMccoy1, my support goes to TuxHero too, no offense to patp but I think you are diverting from the topic of your own thread. Neither google nor you or anyone can stop me supporting or donating to TuxHero. If your thread becomes fruitful then I may support/donate you too..
Be cool

I don't like the "fifth invisible button" solution, it's not elegant.
Imho the long press solution tux proposed is better.
Flaming is not the way to have android working on our device...

patp said:
Personally I'm waiting to see if Tuxhero is actually going to solve any of the hardware problems. I'm open minded about this, on the one hand his previous grand claims came to nothing. On the other hand, he can clearly hack kernel and probably hack android so perhaps there are great things to come. I'd like to see more than a kernel and android build borrowed from other people's projects, or at least if he's going to rebadge open source products, to adhere to the GPL by releasing his sources so others can learn from them. One thing he might need to consider is whether Google's lawyers, in the light of the Cyanogen case, will be happy with him accepting donations while redistributing their IP.
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Nice mood you bring in here.
I don't know you, but reading your story you seem a bit frustrated.
And by the way, XDA is all about accepting donations while redistributing stuff....Are you going to warn all the cooks to..c'mon dude..
So i wish you a happy time and good luck in your own topic here.

He's leading the way for other developers too. In an open community like this you can't work against eachother all the time. Tuxhero is trying to bury the waraxe, but patp seem to continue beeing an asshole. Hope it gets sorted out real quick, wouldn't have any of the project dying due to some idiotic personal conflict.

patp atleast from day 1 i am trying to do something and never give up but what u did?
come to xda ones every day post some crap and get away but me i say online on xda 90% of my time i work on this project 80% of my time even in office i work on this project keeping it hide from my boss. When u did some thing then do post some time. If i see another post from you about me then my actions will be very very serious.

Thanks For The +1 pkshr
All im getting from this is how jealous patp is that Tux carried on with his own 'personal project' and succeeded.
patp, if i was you i'd stop it now before i made even more of a fool of myself in front of more people, because people are going to read this, and you may have the odd person that dislikes Tux that flames him for you, but theres always going to be the majority of people backing Tux on anything he does for this community.

tuxhero said:
patp atleast from day 1 i am trying to do something and never give up but what u did?
come to xda ones every day post some crap and get away but me i say online on xda 90% of my time i work on this project 80% of my time even in office i work on this project keeping it hide from my boss. When u did some thing then do post some time. If i see another post from you about me then my actions will be very very serious.
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chill dude..
u know now tht there are many more supporters to u thn agnst u...
so why care abt the lesser majority..
if somebody has a prblm let him have it..
why to let it bother u...
u know ur goal.. achieve it...
who cares abt others...
they like it ----> OK
they dont like it ---> OK..
cheers'
chetan

If you look in the dictionary, you will a very suitable word for this kind of human behaviour. It's called....Jealousy.

tuxhero said:
patp atleast from day 1 i am trying to do something and never give up but what u did?
come to xda ones every day post some crap and get away but me i say online on xda 90% of my time i work on this project 80% of my time even in office i work on this project keeping it hide from my boss. When u did some thing then do post some time. If i see another post from you about me then my actions will be very very serious.
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Dude, FFS! If there were not for guru's like cr2 among others, we would not have any sound on our Blackstone today.
Still, hats of for the releases u have made. Like patp i'm waiting for the next release. Good to see that u are sharing code and progress with the other devs nowadays.
Sorry patp for filling this new dev thread with bull, just wanted to say my opinion.

cvchetan said:
chill dude..
u know now tht there are many more supporters to u thn agnst u...
so why care abt the lesser majority..
if somebody has a prblm let him have it..
why to let it bother u...
u know ur goal.. achieve it...
who cares abt others...
they like it ----> OK
they dont like it ---> OK..
cheers'
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You are correct chetan. But this guy twist words very nicely what ever i do that is wrong for him. what i understood from his words is he want me to close project,thread everything and go away i think he is not happy to see Android running on Blackstone many he works for Microsoft.

Stop crying about "donateware"

All this superhero DONATEWARE OH MY GOD NO bull**** needs to stop. It is not, and never was, the intent of nathan or pulser to charge money for a rom. Superhero 1.0.0 was clearly marked a beta test, and under normal circumstances would have only been tested by the villain team. However, being nice dudes, they decided to let people who paid for their website and hosting try it out as well as an added bonus for their donation.
Let me remind you again that this entire time, superhero was clearly marked beta test and every indication was made that a less buggy and feature complete version would be released to the public on xda.
Of course, all you entitled sons of *****es cried that it was UNFAIR and that you wanted to be a part of the cool kids club, simply because your internet ego was so goddamn big that you thought you could get whatever you wanted from crying hard enough. Well, when you didn't get your way of course you just started crying more about how unfair it was, how terrible the villain team was, how they ate babies to fuel their rom-o-tron 9000, and how they lied publicly about superhero to get the dollars.
Well, things certainly look different now, dont they? Superhero 1.1.0 is public and free, just like you wanted, and you dont care because feeyo is your newest internet qq target. Shut the **** up, let our devs work, and take your bull**** crying out of the DEVELOPMENT forum so the devs can work without you filling their threads with nonsense.
Mods: please let this stay in development for a while so everyone can read it.

I just lol'd

I too lol'd. I lol'd in agreement.

lol you got some serious frustrations. And yes Feeyo has dropped here with the best rom out at the moment.
Go cry man. And please remove this thread or drop it in general or put it in the cry baby thread.
Wanker

I love you.

And this free publishing, why ?????
Is this not a forum ???
Can I say EVERYTHING that I want, with respect????
Stop teaching me how good and ONG is the villainteam, please, I have my own opinion, and don't need to hear your apocaliptic sermon.
Regards
PS. Please, delete this thread, noting important apporting to the forum

against gpl
its against gpl to take money for it ;p

Moving this thread to off-topic since it is not directly related to Android development. There is an expiring redirect in place so that people viewing the forum can find the thread in its new home.
Going forward, please keep language in check, or the thread will have to be closed and removed from public view. Remember, XDA is a family-friendly forum.
Thanks,
NATF

trasig said:
its against gpl to take money for it ;p
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I think OP's point was more, they're not taking money for it. They're doing a closed beta with their donators. If other people want to help out by donating and testing, there's no problem, surely.

I just can't grasp how incredibly tight you'd have to be to begrudge a guy a few quid when he dedicates that much time to development, "against the GPL" or otherwise

developing said:
All this superhero DONATEWARE OH MY GOD NO b****t needs to stop. It is not, and never was, the intent of nathan or pulser to charge money for a rom. Superhero 1.0.0 was clearly marked a beta test, and under normal circumstances would have only been tested by the villain team. However, being nice dudes, they decided to let people who paid for their website and hosting try it out as well as an added bonus for their donation.
Mods: please let this stay in development for a while so everyone can read it.
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Please watch you lenguage. Everybody is entitled to his or her opinion but with rescpect for this forum and its users

shenshang said:
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I too lol'd. I lol'd in agreement.
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^^
What they said

Seriously... No comment.

i'm ashamed to say i got it off usenet without donating, but i don't believe that's legally theft.
we should have a forum for inter-ROM team toe2toes.

I don't care about donateware, as long as I don't see it on the forum.

apesgrapes said:
i'm ashamed to say i got it off usenet without donating, but i don't believe that's legally theft.
we should have a forum for inter-ROM team toe2toes.
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No, it's not theft at all because Android (and derivatives) are licenced under the GNU GPL.

Doing a 'little bonus' for people that donated is nothing wrong IMHO, but apparently it can quickly look like something else.
so on that subject, I completely agree with the OP.
I don't agree with his tone and language, but I do agree on his statement .
What this has to do with Freeyo and his ROM is a mystery to me though. More and more I see why dev's go away from XDA... the most vocal people on the fourm are the users of the ROMs and the devs don't have a normal place to talk amongst each other besides moving to different forums or use something else... a shame.
the mentality of the Android (and (gsm) Hero specially) section is sooo much different from the WinMo section I for example don't want to try cooking for Android... there is little to no community feel on XDA on the Android sections.

Anyone that decide to post their works on xda have to know what is the purposing of the forum...
If anyone don't agree with this way of work, then can choose any of the million of forums in the web.....
I think is very simply...
Regards....
EDIT: And don't forget that a lot of dev's that today have their own forum, had started their job here, and used the forum for their purposing.....

trasig said:
its against gpl to take money for it ;p
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nope, that is a common misconception that a lot of people have about the gpl. as a matter of fact there is nothing in the gpl that restricts people from selling it, the only requirement of the gpl is that the source code has to be released and thats it. there are tons of commercial software out there that contains gpl code.
and for those of you who wants proof here is a link to the official gpl faq:
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#DoesTheGPLAllowMoney

lol... so ppl who actually pay money are the ones to get the buggiest version of your software? Nice policy I'm sure you'd have tons of happy customers I wouldn't have cared the tiniest bit about superhero being donate rom (since there are plenty of fast vanilla roms out there), had it not been a thread in the development section for more than a week?! I mean... I'm ok with ppl selling stuff, I'm not okay with selling it on xda...

Desire Z source code released

developer. htc. com/
Just noticed this on AndroidCentral. Apologies if posted already. Steps toward new sense

Just to clear this up, this is the kernel source.

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Just to clear this up, this is the kernel source.
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Good to know,. Although this literally has nothing to do with us
Edit; quoted wrong person, but you get the point.
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jdkoreclipse said:
Good to know,. Although this literally has nothing to do with us
Edit; quoted wrong person, but you get the point.
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Maybe he was informing people who are trying to port the Z ROM to the Incredible?

Berzerker7 said:
Maybe he was informing people who are trying to port the Z ROM to the Incredible?
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I'm trying.... I know a kernel source is near useless for us, but great news to hear of progress.
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That is exactly why I posted it. The name Incdoes ring any bells? How about Ihtfp or his incorporation of new sense in to skyraider? Sorry jdk, not everyone is all about jdkevolution or blackhawk, or whatever your daily created rom is.

TheIncredibleJ said:
That is exactly why I posted it. The name Incdoes ring any bells? How about Ihtfp or his incorporation of new sense in to skyraider? Sorry jdk, not everyone is all about jdkevolution or blackhawk, or whatever your daily created rom is.
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TheIncredibleJ said:
That is exactly why I posted it. The name Incdoes ring any bells? How about Ihtfp or his incorporation of new sense in to skyraider? Sorry jdk, not everyone is all about jdkevolution or blackhawk, or whatever your daily created rom is.
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Thanks - anytime a source is posted is good. It may not be for the Inc, but there may be things in the code that a dev reads and says "Wow, I didn't think of that".
JD, you have been back from ban for only a few days, but drama still follows you

Jdk it is useless for someone like you who does not know what to do with it but the others may use it to get the camera working in the desire hd port. Hahah
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jdkoreclipse said:
I'm trying.... I know a kernel source is near useless for us, but great news to hear of progress.
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You're trying?
Advice: Stop trying.

I'm sure he's bitter over me calling him out in the past so he had to use his "community standing" and post count belittle me. My post count is miniscule for a reason. If I don't know something, I research. If I don't have something to contribute, I keep quiet. I don't pretend to know things when I don't. So jdk quit acting like the 12 year old we all know you are, and start acting like the 23 year old college student you pretend to be. I posted Z code with good intentions and not just to see myself speak. I have seen nothing but improved development when code is released. Look at kernels we all use by posters on xda. They are all updated with latest code from htc, and thus we reap stability and functionality benefits. Willing to bet the devs here utilize something from that code, and do it before official new sense comes to us.

TheIncredibleJ said:
I'm sure he's bitter over me calling him out in the past so he had to use his "community standing" and post count belittle me. My post count is miniscule for a reason. If I don't know something, I research. If I don't have something to contribute, I keep quiet. I don't pretend to know things when I don't. So jdk quit acting like the 12 year old we all know you are, and start acting like the 23 year old college student you pretend to be. I posted Z code with good intentions and not just to see myself speak. I have seen nothing but improved development when code is released. Look at kernels we all use by posters on xda. They are all updated with latest code from htc, and thus we reap stability and functionality benefits. Willing to bet the devs here utilize something from that code, and do it before official new sense comes to us.
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I was man enough to pm you and admit i was wrong...but im sorry, and i will edit all my posts.
Lets let this go...last thing the forums need is bitterness..
SO good find with the code, and hopefully we can get cam working

jdkoreclipse said:
Lets let this go...last thing the forums need is bitterness..
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Then...Why are you stirring up stuff?

ncwildcat said:
Then...Why are you stirring up stuff?
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I apologized for my douchebagggery.

jdkoreclipse said:
I was man enough to pm you and admit i was wrong...but im sorry, and i will edit all my posts.
Lets let this go...last thing the forums need is bitterness..
SO good find with the code, and hopefully we can get cam working
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Just read pm i did not see it before. I accept the apology. Let me add a few things. I think we can all agree your not being honest with your real identity and background. Just be real man. No one is gonna look down on you because your a younger. Why live a lie? Im sure im not the only one who thinks you have a lot of potential as far as developing goes. But your not there yet. Get educated, get experience, and just observe for a while. Its ok to sit on the sidelines while learning. You dont need to dev to be accepted. We can clearly see that you have no real developing or coding experience, and in reality dont have a highschool diploma yet. You are young, slow down. This doesnt mean you cant learn as you go, but i reiterate, be real. I no doubt speak for all of us when i say no one wants to hear your bold and inaccurate statements anymore. Your young and just dont have any qualification or justification for most of the things you do and say. Also i will point out that I could never do what you have done with computing at your age, so props to you. With this said, im sure the entire community forgives you for the past but show them that you deserve their forgiveness. No more bold statements, no more "factual opinions", no more relabeling others' roms and calling them your own (,even when credit is given), and lastly there is other ways of contributing to the community without making roms and themes. There would be no drama, bans, or threads like this that generally make this place counterproductive

TheIncredibleJ said:
Just read pm i did not see it before. I accept the apology. Let me add a few things. I think we can all agree your not being honest with your real identity and background. Just be real man. No one is gonna look down on you because your a younger. Why live a lie? Im sure im not the only one who thinks you have a lot of potential as far as developing goes. But your not there yet. Get educated, get experience, and just observe for a while. Its ok to sit on the sidelines while learning. You dont need to dev to be accepted. We can clearly see that you have no real developing or coding experience, and in reality dont have a highschool diploma yet. You are young, slow down. This doesnt mean you cant learn as you go, but i reiterate, be real. I no doubt speak for all of us when i say no one wants to hear your bold and inaccurate statements anymore. Your young and just dont have any qualification or justification for most of the things you do and say. Also i will point out that I could never do what you have done with computing at your age, so props to you. With this said, im sure the entire community forgives you for the past but show them that you deserve their forgiveness. No more bold statements, no more "factual opinions", no more relabeling others' roms and calling them your own (,even when credit is given), and lastly there is other ways of contributing to the community without making roms and themes. There would be no drama, bans, or threads like this that generally make this place counterproductive
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I take your advise...thanks
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