HD7 users, is the marketplace any different than HD2? - HD7 General

Do you have new apps or the same old apps with no meaning found on HD2 marketplace? How would you compare the HD7 marketplace to the Android marketplace?

it looks very diff. from hd2 market.
no where near the size of android market.
looks promising though

Definitely better that Win 6.5 marketplace. Cool games. But a large no. of applications are lacking.

Market place is completely different - very much in keeping with the Metro / panoramic UI. Of course there are apps missing as it's all brand new, but they are coming online in their hundreds every day. Looks very promising!

Sounds really good. The major reason why I have Android on my HD2 is marketplace. If the marketplace improves then I would have no problems with a Windows OS for my phone.

The marketplace is growing for WM7. Compared to WM6.x; I'd say WM has more productive apps right now than WP7.
The games for WP7 are well worth it but the productivity apps are trivial. Right now the only app that I've found worth while is the AP app; oh and the Weather app. Those two apps never let you down on any platform.
I wouldn't really consider slingbox (don't get me started) or Netflix (I'm a subscriber) as stand out or noteworthy apps. They are ok.
If you are looking for alternate browsers or 3rd party productivity apps you've got a while to wait. Time will tell though.

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Awesome G-Sensor iphone App! Port?

A co-worker bought a iPod Touch and downloaded some freebie games at work. One of which is a sweet game called "Topple" and is pretty simple.
Here is the video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr7DlMhmLrc
Basically you have your classic tetris pieces but they don't fall down until you grab them. The object of the game is to keep stacking. You move the pieces around with your fingers. They each have their own physics so they "topple" and knock each other down. As the stack gets higher so does the skill level, as the entire stack is motion sensitive using the built in G-Sensor. You have to keep the phone up-right at first but as the tower of blocks gets higher the sway gets worse requiring you to place your pieces and offset the lean.
The goal of the levels is to simply reach a certain height, gaining points for placing blocks. Free Play allows you to build your tower as high as you can. In both game types, you can only allow 4 blocks to fall off to its doom.
The game is addicting and funny. Each block has faces which change depending on their action. As the game progresses and your tower starts to lean, their faces do :O
I searched for a while but don't think this is out on any WM device. I know some of you have lots of G-Sensor tetris clones out there and this might be a neat idea to try out.
Very fun and addicting game.
Geebus, I don't have an iPhone, but looking at all the apps--okay, fine--the games it has, it's like going back to 1987 and comparing the 8 bit NES and its beautiful colors (while I'm kicking butt playing Kung Fu and Duck huntin' all the while pretending R.O.B is Johnny 5) to Atari's pong.
There doesn't seem to be many devs coming over to show off their skills--and if they do--well....pong works great on my Fuze...
I'd be more than happy to pay .99 for a nice and fluid "beer" app...with waves and actual liquid motion...
Sad when you have more games developed for an OS that is a couple years old vs a system that has been out for almost a decade.
I'm still saddened that we don't have better emulator support.
What would be nifty is if they had an iPhone emulator much like the Palm emulators out there. The iPhone doesn't have any graphic acceleration (i don't believe). Aside from the variable screen sizes, one would think it would be do-able.
What would be cool is if there was a conversion kit made for the Fuze/TP/Diamond which made the screen a capacitive screen. (Dreaming )
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Sad when you have more games developed for an OS that is a couple years old vs a system that has been out for almost a decade.
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Indeed and I'm still trying to figure that one out. What makes it so hard to develop for WM?
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Indeed and I'm still trying to figure that one out. What makes it so hard to develop for WM?
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Make a WM app store: promblem solved
Just think about how much easier it is to get Apps and games on iPhone rather then WM devices
Yes i own both haha
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Make a WM app store: promblem solved
Just think about how much easier it is to get Apps and games on iPhone rather then WM devices
Yes i own both haha
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WM has had plenty of app stores. Handago, etc. Heck Sprint even has a link for an app store which makes it plenty easy. The only problem is, Apple released an SDK that allowed people to make just about anything they wanted and the prices in comparison to the WM apps are waaayy different.
The Apple app store is mostly fun stuff like games and other stuff that's just neat. While, most of the thousands of apps for WM are more business based.
But, IMO it's much easier to download a cab and install it, than the iPhones way of getting apps. Apple, just does such a good job at hyping everything up, that the demand is insane.
I know they have programs to disperse Windows Mobile apps... but it isn't widely known because Microsoft doesn't require EVERYONE to have it like Apple does iTunes (AppStore).
I know they also make a program to install cabs directly to your device when connected through USB (skipping activesync).
Most of the iPhone games look like Flash games that are made into apps. Even the game I posted looks like a flash game.
The AppStore isn't hard to make, but getting it out there is. The best way for a service to get out there would be for a well known Mobile downloading site created a program that used their existing database of programs which allowed installation of demos/trials and a direct method of purchasing retail versions. A site like http://freecabs.org. It has a great database with screen captures and a description, plus all cabs are free to distribute.
The game I posted looks like a simple game that makes use of the gsensor and brings a new twist to tetris-like games.
Windows Mobile will always be suited more towards business while the iPhone has a child-like attractiveness that draws the younger crowd which would gear developers into making programs and games for that class of users.
I'm just sort of "jealous" that a device so new can have so many new games and apps that Windows Mobile doesn't have. It isn't that we can't have these games and apps... just no one has made them. I guess because every iPhone owner can use these games vs only a few people with Touch Pros/Touches/Diamonds/Omnias/etc
i like this topic.. i have/had an iphone but my family now doesnt wanna switch to at&t so i am back with my touch pro typing this on it... i love the ease of the app store.. i mean hell i jailbroke and it had better app distrabution then winmo ... and winmo is a much more open platform.... i think we need an appstore like app with freeware and trial and paid apps on it... you could distrabut it in custom roms because i would put it in mine but idk we need some easier way because im tired of searching google on my phone for a stupid app when it would be so much easier just to have a finger friendly database off a lot of apps and categories and all that good stuff
There are already several "Apple Store" type of products out there. The bad thing is none of them are REQUIRED to get apps so no one really uses them.
Sure the Apple Store is a neat way to find apps... but I just bluetooth the cab file over and install from there.
If your looking for something with descriptions and pics then just about any PocketPC app website will do the job. The only thing different is that they don't install it for you.
Although this thread was on topic of the game Topple... I don't know how it got off topic going from iPhone emulator to Apple Store
[EDIT] Here's what I found doing a simple search: WM App Store = Gecko
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436127
I rather have an emmulator for iphone Games
You realize what you people ask is next to impossible?
(or are we just daydreaming here and I missed the point?)
Well, again, the thread started around 1 iphone app... but I agree that a "emulator" or a "convertor" would be awesome.
I see lots of PocketPC apps and games get converted to iPhone apps... so why can't it go the other way around.
lots of their games and apps look like Adobe Flash based with G-Sensor support.
NLS-why do you say it is next to impossible. I don't disagree but looking for input.
OK I can tell you a few quick facts.
1) We are NOT sure that iPhone is not accelerated - we just assume because Apple says nothing. All 3D stuff I've seen in iPhone kicks the b*tt of any 3D stuff in WM.
2) The underlying OS in iPhone is (if we believe Apple) a subset of OS X, which as simple as you can make it, it is still a very very complex OS.
3) Multitouch is supported by both OS AND hardware, not a fact in WM... and no you cannot get by without it as many if not all apps do make use of it.
4) WM is not able to emulate really complex devices (and trust me I KNOW about emulation), for example Amiga (PocketUAE attempt SUCKS) or MAME (the last version released was based an a veeeeery old MAME). You have to fight against a non-real-time friendly OS (WM) and a single CPU without real co-processing abilities (and don't tell me about Qualcomm being a quad-core chip because I am laughing).
5) System locks for about EVERYTHING are in place in iPhone (yes even cracked ones) so even a succesful emulator would have VERY hard time tricking the OS that this is a real iPhone platform. Trying to bypass this would be an even greater strain to the already strained system.
...I can go on if needed.
Emulating iPhone with current WM devices is daydreaming.-
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OK I can tell you a few quick facts.
1) We are NOT sure that iPhone is not accelerated - we just assume because Apple says nothing. All 3D stuff I've seen in iPhone kicks the b*tt of any 3D stuff in WM.
2) The underlying OS in iPhone is (if we believe Apple) a subset of OS X, which as simple as you can make it, it is still a very very complex OS.
3) Multitouch is supported by both OS AND hardware, not a fact in WM... and no you cannot get by without it as many if not all apps do make use of it.
4) WM is not able to emulate really complex devices (and trust me I KNOW about emulation), for example Amiga (PocketUAE attempt SUCKS) or MAME (the last version released was based an a veeeeery old MAME). You have to fight against a non-real-time friendly OS (WM) and a single CPU without real co-processing abilities (and don't tell me about Qualcomm being a quad-core chip because I am laughing).
5) System locks for about EVERYTHING are in place in iPhone (yes even cracked ones) so even a succesful emulator would have VERY hard time tricking the OS that this is a real iPhone platform. Trying to bypass this would be an even greater strain to the already strained system.
...I can go on if needed.
Emulating iPhone with current WM devices is daydreaming.-
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I agree.. I mean I know enough to know that WM CANNOT handle an iPhone emulator..
I mean If you have ever used an iphone for even 30 minutes your going to realize that it is a lot more complex then windows mobile even if it doesnt look like it.. I mean its hard enough to make good scrolling on apps like iContact, so try and emulate the whole OS..
I just think WinMo needs to be more FUN rather then work
I mean I am 16 years old and I am trying to make WinMo better with my Touch ROM's even though I have a Touch Pro now to work with too.. But I want to make WinMo more for fun as well as work
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OK I can tell you a few quick facts.
1) We are NOT sure that iPhone is not accelerated - we just assume because Apple says nothing. All 3D stuff I've seen in iPhone kicks the b*tt of any 3D stuff in WM.
2) The underlying OS in iPhone is (if we believe Apple) a subset of OS X, which as simple as you can make it, it is still a very very complex OS.
3) Multitouch is supported by both OS AND hardware, not a fact in WM... and no you cannot get by without it as many if not all apps do make use of it.
4) WM is not able to emulate really complex devices (and trust me I KNOW about emulation), for example Amiga (PocketUAE attempt SUCKS) or MAME (the last version released was based an a veeeeery old MAME). You have to fight against a non-real-time friendly OS (WM) and a single CPU without real co-processing abilities (and don't tell me about Qualcomm being a quad-core chip because I am laughing).
5) System locks for about EVERYTHING are in place in iPhone (yes even cracked ones) so even a succesful emulator would have VERY hard time tricking the OS that this is a real iPhone platform. Trying to bypass this would be an even greater strain to the already strained system.
...I can go on if needed.
Emulating iPhone with current WM devices is daydreaming.-
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You are probably right, but I like discussions. My Axim can emulate a PS1. One would think mobile a phone can emulate another phone... at least SOME of its apps. I've read the specs of the phone and while good for a phone... not every app/game is going to require all the resources.
The Multitouch is a bit of a problem though. Even in the game I posted in the first thread, you need multitouch to "spin" your pieces. This would be might cause problems with the touchscreen (the touchpad is multitouch though).
Most of those games look like flash anyway. If they were... could we port them?
Obviously I don't have an iPhone so I wouldn't know. The goal of this thread was to port a specific game... not create an emulator.
dette said:
I agree.. I mean I know enough to know that WM CANNOT handle an iPhone emulator..
I mean If you have ever used an iphone for even 30 minutes your going to realize that it is a lot more complex then windows mobile even if it doesnt look like it.. I mean its hard enough to make good scrolling on apps like iContact, so try and emulate the whole OS..
I just think WinMo needs to be more FUN rather then work
I mean I am 16 years old and I am trying to make WinMo better with my Touch ROM's even though I have a Touch Pro now to work with too.. But I want to make WinMo more for fun as well as work
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Don't get insulted but what do you mean by "work" (in the sense that a Touch Pro is needed to do it) when you are 16?
player911 said:
You are probably right, but I like discussions. My Axim can emulate a PS1. One would think mobile a phone can emulate another phone... at least SOME of its apps. I've read the specs of the phone and while good for a phone... not every app/game is going to require all the resources.
The Multitouch is a bit of a problem though. Even in the game I posted in the first thread, you need multitouch to "spin" your pieces. This would be might cause problems with the touchscreen (the touchpad is multitouch though).
Most of those games look like flash anyway. If they were... could we port them?
Obviously I don't have an iPhone so I wouldn't know. The goal of this thread was to port a specific game... not create an emulator.
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Port yes. By all means.
First find a way to get in touch with the infamous acceleration that is in Qualcomm chipset.
BTW, iPhone is more complex than PS1.
G-Sensor
I don't think that this app has anything to do with the G sensor, its only using the multitouch function but in WM you can not do this.
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I don't think that this app has anything to do with the G sensor, its only using the multitouch function but in WM you can not do this.
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if by app you mean the topple game then yes it uses the g-sensor, you can lean the phone left or right to lean the "tower" of blocks to that side to help it from falling. A little level also appears at the bottom of the screen when you do this.
I also agreeing to an extent about the wm not able to fully emulate iphone. I have an iphone and just about every htc device that has a touch screen but the iphone apps rarely use the multi touch and when they do it can easily be replaced with the buttons we have in a way. For example, the multi touch needed to spin the blocks in topple can easily be replaced with the spinning scroll touch on the touch pro which in actuality be a lot easier than the multi touch cause i can never get the damn block the way i want it when i cover most of the screen/block with my hand trying to spin it with 2 fingers and hold the phone at the same time lol
Also, as far as the security on the iphone apps, its not that complex as made. The apps are in *.ipa format which is just a renamed zip file. Rename it to zip and you can extract the pics used (*.png) and the *nib files (interface builder) with that as a stepping stone, the apps can begin to be ported which is stillnot an easy task, thats why its called a stepping stone

Question From Iphone 4 User

Hello all, Im currently using an Iphone 4, its a great phone, dont get me wrong, but I hate the way apple have such tight control over it. Im looking at buying an HTC HD7, but haven't used the phone yet. Im just really looking advice from anyone who has used at lenght, or has an Iphone 4, and is moving to Windows Phone 7.
Cheers
Having just moved over from an iPhone 4, I'm in a pretty good position to give you some info.
1. Phone itself is great (I found the iPhone4's screen beautiful, but way too small to be practical for my needs)
2. The WP7 interface is MUCH better than the grid on iOS4, especially the LIVE tiles.
3. WP7 is still pretty locked down, but I can see that changing. If you're on a none jailbroken iP4, there's not much difference.
4. App amount seems to be growing by the day, but as this is a fresh OS there's nothing on it yet compared to the IP4. However, the apps that are on WP7 are awesome. The Facebook app is the best Facebook app on any phone I've used.
5. The execution and intergration of facebook, LIVE, Messenger etc is VERY well done on this phone. If you are a social person, you'll love it.
6. There are some limitations, some of which are annoying and will take some adapting.
Overall, I think the OS-side of things is superior to an untouched iP4's iOS4. It does need work, but the foundations are solid. Apps will come (Especially with the Dev budget MS has thrown at the WP7 platform)
As with all early adapters, you'll experience some frustrating times and a lack of features, so it depends what you're after really.
Thanks for the super fast reply. What are the limitations you talk about? I find the Iphone a Cr&p phone, but pretty good for internet surfing, that is what I do mostly, with a little bit of angry birds thrown in for good measure. The only other program use a lot is Nike plus for tracking runs, but I suppose it didnt take long for Android to have something similar, so I imagine Windows phone 7 will have a similar app soon.
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Thanks for the super fast reply. What are the limitations you talk about? I find the Iphone a Cr&p phone, but pretty good for internet surfing, that is what I do mostly, with a little bit of angry birds thrown in for good measure. The only other program use a lot is Nike plus for tracking runs, but I suppose it didnt take long for Android to have something similar, so I imagine Windows phone 7 will have a similar app soon.
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My surfing experience so far has been good. Again, there's no flash or silverlight yet and a lack of HTML 5. However, Adobe have confirmed Flash is coming for WP7, we just need an official statement from MS now....I'm predicting it will be in the Jan 2011 update along with Copy & paste.
Like I say, the apps are popping up fairly quickly to say the least. If you like the occassional game, the HD7 screen real-estate is a big plus there. The quality of the games on WP7 looks very promising indeed (In my opinion, better than iP4 games, and this is Dev's first releases!)
Rovio will no doubt release Angry birds on the platform as well.
As for the tracker, I haven't seen one in the marketplace as of yet, but that's because I've been messing around too much with the Xbox LIVE games
Microsoft don't seem to be as controlling as Apple and so within a few updates you should be more free than if you were using an iPhone.
The fact that HTC & Samsung are making the phones is always a plus as then you have a choice instead of having to pick from one phone.
Defo think im going to give the HTC HD7 a go. Worst case scenario I buy a Ipod touch to use the stuff I was used to. I always adapt early, just sometimes I get frustrated with slow progress. Hope the microsoft app store doesnt go like the palm pre did thought.
How is the screen in comparison ? I am hoping its better than the Evos. I know it won't be as nice as the Vibrants just dont want the washed look.
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My surfing experience so far has been good. Again, there's no flash or silverlight yet and a lack of HTML 5. However, Adobe have confirmed Flash is coming for WP7, we just need an official statement from MS now....
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How MS is going to allow flash when they moved away from ActiveX, and I haven't heard they would want to introduce it - it is by far the easiest transport to deliver spyware, malware and viruses to your device.

Xbox Live games - Everyone's first impressions?

So I'm sure almost all of you were dying to try out some of these Xbox Live games MS has been boasting about for months. And now that we have them a seclection of launch titles at our fingertips I'm curious what everyone besides me thinks of them so far?
I personally downloaded each one as a trial first to get a sense of how the presentation of these games were, how responsive and intuitive the controls were and if they were really worth the $5-7 price tag.
In the end I removed a few and kept a handful which I felt were my best choices overall.
I selected my top choices as:
- de Blob Revolution
- Flight Control
- Max & The Magic Marker
- MONOPOLY
- Need for Speed Underground
- Rocket Riot
- The Harvest
- Twin Blades
- Unite (best free game)
Now I will say some of the games appear to be just ports from other phones, some appear to have slightly improved graphics while some seem the same as their HD2 version (Monopoly & Sims 3). I found the best looking games in the marketplace to be de Blob Revolution, Max & The Magic Marker and Rocket Riot. Twin Blades is great too but looks a little dull almost as if it's not meant to be played at 480x800.
What do you all think so far? Do you think the early batch of released games is only the tip of the iceberg in terms of the quality of games we'll be seeing or do you all think we're seeing the full potential of what it's capable of?
I am in no ways a fan on the iPhone but will say that in comparison of quality of games on the iOS they have some pretty ridiculous games. If anyone has seen the build quality of Rage HD on iPhone it makes me cross my fingers that WP7 is capable of the same if not better.
However I've seen screen shots and footage of the upcoming game Ilomilo and it looks like it should show some better potential for much better looking games.
I wish they would make monopoly free.
However, with Xbox Live coming to our smartphones now, the possibilities are endless, especially with WP7. So I think games like Assassins Creed and Need for Speed make other platforms look so outdated.
In recent news, I heard Google Android is getting a bit intimidated by the WP7 update coming in January.
WP7 FOR LYFE!!!!!
WE BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!
Multiplayer support, MS needs it now. I am not asking for anything real time but games like UNO or Monopoly should at least have turn by turn multiplayer. I feel that a platform based on XBOX Live should at the minimum have turn by turn.
I agree with you both. Other OS's are looking outdated (except for the iOS).. However I'm hoping that WP7 will be able to compete soon with the visual quality of iOS games. I don't know if it's hardware limitations that's holding WP7 back on this one but they need to step it up to truly compete.
And yes MS does need to impliment true XBOX Live multiplayer into their games ASAP. I recalled the iOS having some games that you could actually play multiplayer via bluetooth I believe. I mean if you can do it on the PSP you should be able to do it here. Local multiplayer via wi-fi, turn based on the same device is mandatory, and even some other kind of true Xbox Live experience is a must.
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I agree with you both. Other OS's are looking outdated (except for the iOS).. However I'm hoping that WP7 will be able to compete soon with the visual quality of iOS games. I don't know if it's hardware limitations that's holding WP7 back on this one but they need to step it up to truly compete.
And yes MS does need to impliment true XBOX Live multiplayer into their games ASAP. I recalled the iOS having some games that you could actually play multiplayer via bluetooth I believe. I mean if you can do it on the PSP you should be able to do it here. Local multiplayer via wi-fi, turn based on the same device is mandatory, and even some other kind of true Xbox Live experience is a must.
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Well it is currently their claim to fame, I would at least like to see it used. As far as visual quality check out ilomilo. These phones can pump out some nice graphics but its up to us to make this platform successful enough to pull in these developers.
I believe most of these developers already recognize the ease of use as far as developing games and apps for wp7. In a recent article, developers voiced out about wp7's flexibility and how using VB has made it very easy for them to build and deploy apps.
And BTW, there are compatibility issues using VB 2010 for development. You have the option to build your own app.
I love oregon trail
we need xbox live service in malaysia...
carmeng4evr said:
I love oregon trail
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Do you know where it is, I can't find it in the marketplace?
Thanks
Dave
DaveShaw said:
Do you know where it is, I can't find it in the marketplace?
Thanks
Dave
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Maybe it's not available in your region. I'm in Canada and it's one of the 1st games that show up in the Xbox Marketplace.
Other OS look outdated? Android has the same assassins creed HD and has for months and has a beta port of rage HD up that easily rivals iOS. I have an HD7 and love the phone and cant wait for it to evolve in terms of games but if you think this is top-o-the line stuff then you're in for a pleasant suprise when they decide to catch up
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Other OS look outdated? Android has the same assassins creed HD and has for months and has a beta port of rage HD up that easily rivals iOS. I have an HD7 and love the phone and cant wait for it to evolve in terms of games but if you think this is top-o-the line stuff then you're in for a pleasant suprise when they decide to catch up
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Interesting, didn't know they had Rage HD for Android or that it was capable of a game like that..
strictly beta for the time being but I've seen it played on a captivate firsthand and its epic... In all actuality theres a few android phones that just kick the iphones hardware in the teeth. Itards just wont admit that we got something better at a lower price...
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Maybe it's not available in your region. I'm in Canada and it's one of the 1st games that show up in the Xbox Marketplace.
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Guess not
Thanks anyhow
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Do you know where it is, I can't find it in the marketplace?
Thanks
Dave
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Yeah, i am in the US.
I just type in Oregon trail and it shows up.
Isn't it true that some American Apps dont show up in other regions(kind of like how some Apps for Android only work for US support)
carmeng4evr said:
Yeah, i am in the US.
I just type in Oregon trail and it shows up.
Isn't it true that some American Apps dont show up in other regions(kind of like how some Apps for Android only work for US support)
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True it is Just like AT&T users get a free download of that great looking game Ilomilo and it only shows up in their marketplace but if others look for it there's nothing there.
I think there's a way to trick your phone and change regions to access apps from other countries by changing the country under Settings then Region and Language. But I could be wrong..
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True it is Just like AT&T users get a free download of that great looking game Ilomilo and it only shows up in their marketplace but if others look for it there's nothing there.
I think there's a way to trick your phone and change regions to access apps from other countries by changing the country under Settings then Region and Language. But I could be wrong..
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I hear you on Ilomilo, I remembering emailing the devs before launch and asking them whether the app was going to be exclusive to at&t phones only or time exclusive and was told no. Then a few days later their site says its a timed exclusive. I was pretty peed off, he was nice about it and said he didn't know until last minute. Such a lovely game though.

[Q] Google Voice, Skype, GPS, etc. Apps?

Hi - I just purchased a HD7, have a Android phone (HD2) and Blackberry Bold, but wanted to know if there is anything working for wifi calling.
I know this does not have UMA, but wifi calling like Skype or Google Voice?
The marketplace in Windows 7 I don't like because I don't think I see a sort feature by like 'free' vs 'paid' , etc.
I don't see Skype, see some 3rd party Google Voice stuff with bad reviews and don't see Google Maps.
The TeleNav on the phone from T-mobile requires a monthly subscription which i don't want.
Anyone know apps/etc. that are out there that would suit what I'm looking for here.
Thanks
the best free app I've found for navigation is "xMaps". It's pretty clunky and seems to lack turn-by-turn navigation but at least it works as a basic map. There might be something better availble as far as paid apps go, but I never venture into the paid apps section becase I'm cheap
I hope the app selection gets better with time and that T-Mobile finally rolls out that damned NoDo update!
EDIT: Also, there is a way to sort the list between Free and Paid apps. When you've selected the category of apps you want and the list has been populated, swipe the screen to the left 3 times until you reach the "Free" section.
I've just got an Hd7, 16gb. At first i thought this looks good but is absolute rubbish after my HTC touch pro 2-- can't sync with my PC, can't have TomTom, can't have Google Maps, can't have Opera or Skyfire or Firefox, can't have BBC iPlayer, can't have PDF reader or Flashplayer. What's wrong with these people at Microsoft, don't they know how phones are used!???. BUT is IS a very good phone and very nice to use, has a great screen and plays videos well. I've found you can sync it rather awkwardly via windows live and skydrive. Why do they want to make life more difficult?
I believe the features you mention that are lacking are to come in future updates.
Remember... as far as OS goes, WP7 is just a baby learning to walk. I had to wait for flash on my Galaxy S from the froyo update and iPhone will NEVER have it so as far as those features go... hold your horses. Lol...
I love my android and I am really liking my hd7 as well for different reasons. Once the updates start to come you will be pleasently surprised I believe.
PS... you can sync the phone via PC through Zune. Download the software and follow the instructions...
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I've just got an Hd7, 16gb. At first i thought this looks good but is absolute rubbish after my HTC touch pro 2-- can't sync with my PC, can't have TomTom, can't have Google Maps, can't have Opera or Skyfire or Firefox, can't have BBC iPlayer, can't have PDF reader or Flashplayer. What's wrong with these people at Microsoft, don't they know how phones are used!???. BUT is IS a very good phone and very nice to use, has a great screen and plays videos well. I've found you can sync it rather awkwardly via windows live and skydrive. Why do they want to make life more difficult?
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I believe the features you mention that are lacking are to come in future updates.
Remember... as far as OS goes, WP7 is just a baby learning to walk. I had to wait for flash on my Galaxy S from the froyo update and iPhone will NEVER have it so as far as those features go... hold your horses. Lol...
I love my android and I am really liking my hd7 as well for different reasons. Once the updates start to come you will be pleasently surprised I believe.
PS... you can sync the phone via PC through Zune. Download the software and follow the instructions...
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Not if your on a Mac like me. Good thing I also own a PC but this HD7 still sucks ass! Good thing I still own all my Android phones tho. The only time this phone comes out my pocket now is if I wanna watch NetFlix. Other than that my SIM card will be in one of my Android phones getting me thru the day.
you can also sync on a mac look on mac appstore for Windows Phone 7 Connector.
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you can also sync on a mac look on mac appstore for Windows Phone 7 Connector.
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Thanks..just downloaded it.
Well... I hope that once the updates start rolling out that u will have a better experience . I kept my Galaxy S for the sake of being able to customize it and stuff and I got the hd7 for its simplicity and class. I think that this will be one of thebest devices ever once ms starts to roll out the updates and if the hd2 is any indication... I think this will be the next HTC superphone once the devs start working their magic.
Just my 2 pennies...
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Not if your on a Mac like me. Good thing I also own a PC but this HD7 still sucks ass! Good thing I still own all my Android phones tho. The only time this phone comes out my pocket now is if I wanna watch NetFlix. Other than that my SIM card will be in one of my Android phones getting me thru the day.
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Thanks for that. I can live without some of the previous stuff but I need TomTom also I need a program like WMwifirouter for this OS. I've been using my TP2 connecting my laptop wirelessly to the Net when away for over a year now and it's a great little program. Anyone know a way with an HD7 to use it as a modem?
yiannisthegreek said:
Well... I hope that once the updates start rolling out that u will have a better experience . I kept my Galaxy S for the sake of being able to customize it and stuff and I got the hd7 for its simplicity and class. I think that this will be one of thebest devices ever once ms starts to roll out the updates and if the hd2 is any indication... I think this will be the next HTC superphone once the devs start working their magic.
Just my 2 pennies...
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I hope your right. I don't plan on getting rid of mine but right now it's not getting used much.
trapperjem said:
I've just got an Hd7, 16gb. At first i thought this looks good but is absolute rubbish after my HTC touch pro 2-- can't sync with my PC, can't have TomTom, can't have Google Maps, can't have Opera or Skyfire or Firefox, can't have BBC iPlayer, can't have PDF reader or Flashplayer. What's wrong with these people at Microsoft, don't they know how phones are used!???. BUT is IS a very good phone and very nice to use, has a great screen and plays videos well. I've found you can sync it rather awkwardly via windows live and skydrive. Why do they want to make life more difficult?
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90% of the things you list are third party applications. It isn't that WP7 CAN'T have them, it's just that at less than 6 months old, it DOESN'T have them... yet.
Did you actually LOOK for Adobe Reader? Cause it's there in the marketplace and has been forever.
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90% of the things you list are third party applications. It isn't that WP7 CAN'T have them, it's just that at less than 6 months old, it DOESN'T have them... yet.
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I like your optimism but the facts are a bit more complex than that; the marketplace is available only in 20 countries (roughly 10% of the total) and this is a very serious issue.
Take iGO 8 for instance, it was developed by the Hungarians, do you honestly believe they will commit resources to port their brilliant software to a platform not even available in their native country?
I want to have a state of the art OS but WP7 is so crippled that is no match for the competition.
I still hope for a better future for my HD7 but when? When?

Share Your Apps here

I am not sure if there is an existing thread similar to this. If there is, please feel free to remove this one.
I thought it would be nice for members to share the Apps that they are using and review them. I would start off with the ones I'm sporting in my device.
My Apps:
Amazon.com (It is what it says)
Associated Press (AP nice start, needs a lot improvement)
Bank of America (Must have if you bank with them)
Cocktail Flow (I can make any cocktail, thanks for this app)
eBay
ESPN Score Center (A must have if you follow any sports)
Flixster (I LOVE this app, prefer this over IMDB)
Google Serach (Not a big fan. Bing is just fine)
Grupon
History Here (Very useful if you want to know what is around)
Home Depot (Just for the heck of it)
Huffington Post (Needs a LOT of work)
KBB.com (Well, does what it is suppose to)
My Stocks (The BEST stocks app ever)
Prime TV (Good to keep track of your shows)
Realtor.com (Perfect if you want to check out the real estate prices)
Shazam (A must have)
Tag Reader (Never used it)
The Daily Show (I'm a fan of this show, not everyone might like it)
USA Today (First News app that took advantage of the Metro UI)
XDA-Developers (Needs a lot of performance tweaks)
My Games:
Assassin's Creed
Fruit Ninja
Full House Poker
Need For Speed: Undercover
Pocket God (I did not like this game very kiddish)
Raise Of Glory
UNO
I would Love to have a good Weather App. I currently use the HTC one, but I'm not really that happy with it. Any recommendations...
Where is that ANGRY BIRD app on wp7? people said its there but i search and nothing there.
How about SOUNDHOUND where you can detect what that song is and tells your the name of the song if you dont no the name of the song your listerning to on tv or radio ?
MARKETPLACE WP7 is lack.....
sandrax2020 said:
Where is that ANGRY BIRD app on wp7? people said its there but i search and nothing there.
How about SOUNDHOUND where you can detect what that song is and tells your the name of the song if you dont no the name of the song your listerning to on tv or radio ?
MARKETPLACE WP7 is lack.....
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Angry Birds is coming out on the 29th June. I don't know about SoundHound. Shazam is very popular and I use that.
well i basically use the same apps. Those are the popular ones.
i also play harbor master(2.99$ i think?)/ilomilo(kind of challenging, not free)/shuriken ninja(free)
how are you liking fruit ninja? i hate it on my HD7. it's just not as smooth as on my ipod touch/iphones!!
When i click HTC HUB there is 3 apps below it under the big clock.
2 of the apps there are not funtionble anymore.. and when i click it it directly goes to the markerplace for that app. I allready downloaded it ages ago..
its been 1 week since these 2 apps doesnt work or doesnt funtion anymore. Any ideas?
they are: COMPASS app
HIDDEN WI-FI app
these 2 apps just shows a wave logo in blue... doesnt work. i click it just goes to the marketplace but i allready downloaded it and it work before tho.
Unless WP7 have deleted these apps or are not funtionable ? because they still there in the marketplace
Please answer each of these and let me knoe wither these are available and in details please for wp7 MARKETPLACE.
Grindr ? for social gentlmen and women chatroom one-one prvt chat style. For same or different sexuality agenders either your gay/lesbian/str8/or more.
5-0 radio pro ? (this one is on the itunes its everything u can listern to world wide radio stations also lets you listern to police and fireguards around the world and also lets you listern to flight tracking audio around the world.)
XE Currency ? to let me know what is $1.00AUD in Euro or US$
TOWER? a game to built blocks to create a tall building.
STICKAM ? a interactive site where you can do live stream cam and watch others from stickam website.
SLEEP TALK ? an app where it records any incomming noice such as snoring or such when sleeping.
RunKeeper ? it tracks you where your runing with GPS tracking and shows a color line where street/rd u been with Kilometter symbols how long u been runing and how far you been runing, to keep track of the exercies routine.
QANTAS app ? to let me check flights and check my boarding pass on my phone.
Live Poker ? An app game to play live with others around the world playing poker cards.
Mental illness ? a interesting medical app to tell you from A to Z on all names referering to mental.. for example: anxiety or aspergers syndrome or autism and such and u click any name of these and gives u information.
ESPN freezeframe? an app game where you have to match the 2 same similar photos side by side and match what the left picture is missing. Both pictures side by side are the same.. but something is missing then the other.
Convert Units ? a great app to convert what is 5.8 in cmtall and or kg.. american uses different ways while australia uses kilos(kg) and centermetters tall (cmtall hights)
Discount elite ? a great app where you can see what is 5% off the mark price or 20 or so % discount. for example 100.00 book has 10% discounted. what will the price be to calculate that? well with the app will tell u.
Agingbooth ? a fun app where you turn your photo face into a older looking person with wringles around the face.
SoundHound? a good app where it will detect for you what that song is call. for example im listerning to a song i like. But i dont no the name of it. the app will listern to it live on the speaker and detect the name of that song.
IM+ ? an app where it contains yahoomessenger, MSN messenger so that i can log into one of them and stay intouch with my fellow friends.
Google Earth? Obviously we all know what this one is. So wp7 has it?
Hairstyles ? A Great app to style your hair either your male and female.. with hundreds of hairstyles to see how you would look like in real life with long and short and style hairstyles. Remember no cartoonist look hairstyles.
So does WP7 offer all of these apps too? or could it be under a similar name perhaps ? help me find out and let us know exactly the name so i can type it in the app store. All of these apps are what i enjoy in the apple store apps.
I would be so disapointed if wp7 doesnt even offer any of that. I wonder why.
By the way as i add more and more apps on my phone just where all the apps are.... it builds up alot and i have to scroll all the way down and down to find the app i want to use.... i wish this phone HTC HD7 would have them sorted in small icons just like iphone so i dont have to scroll one line all the way down to find it.
thanks love
best regards
@ SandraX2020
Looks like you already own a HD7 from two posts above. So why don't you check yourself if the listed Apps are available in the Market place.
I did not hear/see most of the apps you listed. But I'm sure MS will catch up soon enough. iPhone and Apple and the developers had 4 years to have the number of apps they have now in the market place.
Where as in less than 7 months, WP7 has over 17,000 apps. I'm sure in no time we would have all of them if not more. So, tight until then.
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[*]Amazon.com (It is what it says)
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I hope you don't mind me asking VizagDude but are you based in the states? If not how did you install the Amazon app, did you side load it? I had it on my HD2 running WP7 (side loaded the app) but since moving to an actual HD7 I haven't been able to find it (I'm based in the UK)? Cheers for any help!
Good morning all!!
First time poster, long time lurker.
I have a few apps that I love, some I like, and some that are just soso.
But here's my list anyways.
Amazon Kindle Not sure why I have this, I never use it
Army Creeds
Compass Decent, user once or twice.
Connection Setup Decent, user once or twice.
Facebook
Flashlight
Flixster
Games
HTC YouTube Not really sure the difference in this and the other YouTube
iheartradio Decent used once maybe twice
Imazing
iMDb
Mobiletag
NetFlix Love this!!!
Office
Photo Enhancer This could be so much better
Prime TV NEVER, deleting as soon as I am done with this post
Radio Hub
Rhapsody
Shazam
ShopSavvy
Sound Enhancer This also could be so much better
Stopwatch 4.4
TeleNav GPS Nav Subscription ran out
T-Mobile TV Subscription ran out
Yahoo! Mail
YouTube
But the real ? for me is, does anyone have a good way to use music files are ring tones?
Thanks for the help
The mp3 ringtones feature is coming in Mango.
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I hope you don't mind me asking VizagDude but are you based in the states? If not how did you install the Amazon app, did you side load it? I had it on my HD2 running WP7 (side loaded the app) but since moving to an actual HD7 I haven't been able to find it (I'm based in the UK)? Cheers for any help!
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Yes, I'm from United States.
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I can not simply believe enough how all of the apps names ive meantion obove this in this colon list and yet you say there is 15,000 apps on the qp7 and non of the apps ive meantion are not available or doesnt exsist on wp7 between the 15,000 apps thats available there.
These apps are on itunes and on android. I can not imagine more how wp7 doesnt have these apps at all. Sounds like wp7 15,000 apps are more useless apps and basic apps and nothing more then lots of apps design for other countrys. Most of the apps you find will be useless to use it in other countries....
I give you an example. you find lots of apps in relation to the the train metros... your not seriously going to download on of these if your living in a country nwith no train stations around your state. Then again all the 15,000 apps may as well be just useless apps. 80% from all i can see.
I just cant believe all the name apps ive meantion are not available. Considering there is 15,000 apps.
Then whats all this 15,000 apps? doesnt look like there is really 15,000 apps.
When i click SOCIAL i keep on scrolling it down and down and down i go.... and the further you go down and down as you scroll the page there is just 80% useless apps and not very interesting or no one using it to beging with.
But if you keep scrolling and look at all the scroll you did on the SOCIAL apps areas it sure doesnt look there isnt enough.. looks like there was only just 200 apps in there.. Yet interesting 15,000 apps on wp7 all of its content ? interesting.
Anyways WP7 marketplace should wake up and do something decent. It is lacking. I heard friends where i do go to california that wp7 is slowly dyeing from all they are concern about. And wont be popular until 3 years time.
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Yes, I'm from United States.
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You say there is 15,000 apps on wp7 ? And yet all of the 8 or 10 apps ive meantions are not available on wp7 ? well that is odd because you would think 15,000 apps would be value apps to beging with. And after all of the 10 apps ive meantion obove are available on itunes and android.
Then again im starting to notice and realise all of the most 15,000 apps available on wp7 marketplace is useless. Well not useless but what i meant was that most of them are not really design to help you with things because most of these apps are like for other countries or local other countries needs.. like for example india radio... or canadian radio or stuff for thier locals.
Surely in my state we dont really listern to indian channels or canadian channels or thier local tram timetable apps... well wp7 is like that really.
It is a shame because 15,000 and counting is just crab apps most of it.
I also notice as i browse quite alot.. that there isn';t much ratings on apps and most ratings are on the top list apps... but if you keep on browing down and down the apps page... no one really have rated anything on all apps. only just the most important stuff that are more value that is rated.
Again there is 1.6 million users around the world who just brought an HTC HD7 cellphone. And yet you would have thought 1.6 million users would half of them all would of rate lots of apps to beging with ?
Then i did some analys and notice that 80% of all these people in the 1.6 million users who now own a htc hd7 was that everyone was mainly downloading the GAME store and that everyone was more focus on the GAME section game then anything other then just games on the Xbox game area.
I am not a game person but i used to when i was in my 20s. Know days what i like it good intertainment and intersting apps.
Believe it or not i downloaded 3 apps and in just 3 days later ive deleted it because one of them was a social chat and no one is in it... the second app was find me on wp7 around the globe and notice in my state no one is using this app... So it is a pain killer till its dorm.
So WP7 been out aproximate 7 or so months now. And allready owns 15,000 apps and continuing.
Yet like i said in my experience of using the marketplace is that 80% of it all is crab apps because most of the apps are only more related to a specified country like singapore tram app... or the local tv guide in china.. But these things are useless in other countries. And most apps are like that.
I also notice 60% of the most apps ive encounterd and looked t are quite boring and theres nothing interesting or nice with its graphics... because most of it is just basic writen words and nothing. Its like reading a book with nothing to make it stand out.
So why is wp7 marketplace so bad ? I spoken to my old fellow friends in New orleans and they told me you shoudn't have gone with wp7 because wp7 is dying down.
Mainly wp7 phones are mainly design if you only care about just games
And that its not like what you think as in android or itunes
So to finish it up i say wp7 is crab and bad and nothing excitement out of it.
Know i am thinking of soon to buy a tablet 10.1 screen with built in android. However installing android on the htc hd7 will be not so good if you ever try to uninstall something importnantly.
Itys interesting how itunes and android has all the apps im more interesting. Yet wp7 there is upsolutely no apps that i like which seems strange. Only the app i own is the world radio live. But the rest is again useless. So why with 15,000 and counting apps on wp7 marketplace doesnt have the apps ive named as meantion obove ? which is odd.
I bet all the apps in there wp7 is crab. or at least 80% of it is useless and again apps cost alot on there too
What it is more interesting is the games that wp7 offers... just the games... nothing els.
Not everyone is into games. Think about it.
Sandrax, are you able to stay on topic in one thread without that someone report me? Eh?
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You say there is 15,000 apps on wp7 ? And yet all of the 8 or 10 apps ive meantions are not available on wp7 ? well that is odd because you would think 15,000 apps would be value apps to beging with. And after all of the 10 apps ive meantion obove are available on itunes and android.
Then again im starting to notice and realise all of the most 15,000 apps available on wp7 marketplace is useless. Well not useless but what i meant was that most of them are not really design to help you with things because most of these apps are like for other countries or local other countries needs.. like for example india radio... or canadian radio or stuff for thier locals.
Surely in my state we dont really listern to indian channels or canadian channels or thier local tram timetable apps... well wp7 is like that really.
It is a shame because 15,000 and counting is just crab apps most of it.
I also notice as i browse quite alot.. that there isn';t much ratings on apps and most ratings are on the top list apps... but if you keep on browing down and down the apps page... no one really have rated anything on all apps. only just the most important stuff that are more value that is rated.
Again there is 1.6 million users around the world who just brought an HTC HD7 cellphone. And yet you would have thought 1.6 million users would half of them all would of rate lots of apps to beging with ?
Then i did some analys and notice that 80% of all these people in the 1.6 million users who now own a htc hd7 was that everyone was mainly downloading the GAME store and that everyone was more focus on the GAME section game then anything other then just games on the Xbox game area.
I am not a game person but i used to when i was in my 20s. Know days what i like it good intertainment and intersting apps.
Believe it or not i downloaded 3 apps and in just 3 days later ive deleted it because one of them was a social chat and no one is in it... the second app was find me on wp7 around the globe and notice in my state no one is using this app... So it is a pain killer till its dorm.
So WP7 been out aproximate 7 or so months now. And allready owns 15,000 apps and continuing.
Yet like i said in my experience of using the marketplace is that 80% of it all is crab apps because most of the apps are only more related to a specified country like singapore tram app... or the local tv guide in china.. But these things are useless in other countries. And most apps are like that.
I also notice 60% of the most apps ive encounterd and looked t are quite boring and theres nothing interesting or nice with its graphics... because most of it is just basic writen words and nothing. Its like reading a book with nothing to make it stand out.
So why is wp7 marketplace so bad ? I spoken to my old fellow friends in New orleans and they told me you shoudn't have gone with wp7 because wp7 is dying down.
Mainly wp7 phones are mainly design if you only care about just games
And that its not like what you think as in android or itunes
So to finish it up i say wp7 is crab and bad and nothing excitement out of it.
Know i am thinking of soon to buy a tablet 10.1 screen with built in android. However installing android on the htc hd7 will be not so good if you ever try to uninstall something importnantly.
Itys interesting how itunes and android has all the apps im more interesting. Yet wp7 there is upsolutely no apps that i like which seems strange. Only the app i own is the world radio live. But the rest is again useless. So why with 15,000 and counting apps on wp7 marketplace doesnt have the apps ive named as meantion obove ? which is odd.
I bet all the apps in there wp7 is crab. or at least 80% of it is useless and again apps cost alot on there too
What it is more interesting is the games that wp7 offers... just the games... nothing els.
Not everyone is into games. Think about it.
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Sounds like a flaming fanboy to me... If you dont like WP7 the DONT BUY WP7... It is as simple as that...
Well, I have to agree... At the moment WP7 is simply not the best choice unless you are a gamer. Games are awesome under WP7 thanks to XBOX Live. With android you have a bunch of free useful apps as well as great paid apps and is a growing platform with a huge future in the smartphone & tablet market with Android 3. Now with iOS, you have a bunch of slave apps hanging around iTunes and a phone with no battery to swap and no SD slot. Just telling the truth, don't get me wrong. I have a Jailbroken iPhone 3GS, an HTC HD7 chevron unlocked and a rooted HTC Inspire 4G with mike's 1986 Revolution ROM. So I have all 3 OS and in my opinion, Android is by far the best, Apple in 2nd place, and in a distant, very distant 3rd place is WP7. And again I have not one but 2 HD2 (both with custom roms) and was the owner of the HTC Tilt 1 & 2. So I am also a huge fan of windows mobile 6.x. etc... but reality is reality. And WP7 is at this precise moment still in pampers. Hope the mango update really delivers not some but many new features like multitasking as well as many others. (Hotspot, usb tethering) Flash should be priority one too, so at least they have something that iOS still don't have. Anyway, isn't this a post about new homebrew apps for WP7? LOL... take care everyone!
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