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I know there are numerous threads about how to, and what I am experiencing is not uncommon, but my question is pertaining to the start screen when first opening TiBu I get the "system settings will prevent you from restoring apps. To correct this go to settings>applications>tick unknown sources checkbox.
I am not running non-market apps. Can I make a backup and safely restore?
And how do I see some sideload from a PC not on device and restore via TiBu?
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
rwj5279955 said:
I know there are numerous threads about how to, and what I am experiencing is not uncommon, but my question is pertaining to the start screen when first opening TiBu I get the "system settings will prevent you from restoring apps. To correct this go to settings>applications>tick unknown sources checkbox.
I am not running non-market apps. Can I make a backup and safely restore?
And how do I see some sideload from a PC not on device and restore via TiBu?
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.
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The way it works is that anything installed from anywhere other then the market is considered as non market apps. It will back up but with out sideloading enabled you will not be able to restore them.
If side losing us not enabled on your captivate I do not believe you will be able to restore apps with titanium
Are you on stock rooted? What are you looking to do that you are looking to backup your apps?
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Stock, rooted.
I'm looking to flash Axura, trying to get my proverbial ducks in a row. I'm coming from Win-Mo, so yes a little Linux naive.
Thanks for the quick response. You guys are great.
If you're saying I need sideloading enabled on the phone, great.
rwj5279955 said:
Stock, rooted.
I'm looking to flash Axura, trying to get my proverbial ducks in a row. I'm coming from Win-Mo, so yes a little Linux naive.
Thanks for the quick response. You guys are great.
If you're saying I need sideloading enabled on the phone, great.
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If you flash Axura then sideloading and root will be enabled by default
rwj5279955 said:
Stock, rooted.
I'm looking to flash Axura, trying to get my proverbial ducks in a row. I'm coming from Win-Mo, so yes a little Linux naive.
Thanks for the quick response. You guys are great.
If you're saying I need sideloading enabled on the phone, great.
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Run the backup. Only apps with data, no system data. Go to my files. Check for a titanium folder. Open it, your back ups should be there. When you flash sideloading is enabled. You will be able to restore still your apps and their current state using titanium
I am on axura. Love it. If you have any other questions you can pm me or post on the axura thread..
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OK, for the sake of argument then, as long as TiBu is making a backup file to my SD card, once the new ROM is up and running it should back up no problems.
rwj5279955 said:
OK, for the sake of argument then, as long as TiBu is making a backup file to my SD card, once the new ROM is up and running it should back up no problems.
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Correct.
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rwj5279955 said:
OK, for the sake of argument then, as long as TiBu is making a backup file to my SD card, once the new ROM is up and running it should back up no problems.
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yes but make sure to copy the TiBu's backup folder to your pc or external SD card as Axura wipes data when loaded. Once it is loaded then move the file bcak and it will restore with no probs
I wish I could at least thanks your posts guys. You've been a big help. 5 thanks a day ha.
And yes I checked my files, a backup is there.
rwj5279955 said:
I wish I could at least thanks your posts guys. You've been a big help. 5 thanks a day ha.
And yes I checked my files, a backup is there.
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Good just make sure to back it up just incase. I keep my file on my external SD just incase.
Will do. Its good to hear good things about the ROM to be flashed also.
zelendel said:
yes but make sure to copy the TiBu's backup folder to your pc or external SD card as Axura wipes data when loaded. Once it is loaded then move the file bcak and it will restore with no probs
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Loading a rom doesn't delete the titanium backup directory unless you perform a master clear. Most roms don't delete data from the internal sd. Just so people don't freak out by reading that
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Loading a rom doesn't delete the titanium backup directory unless you perform a master clear. Most roms don't delete data from the internal sd. Just so people don't freak out by reading that
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Good point I forgot that the data wipe didnt remove it. So used to doing the needed (yes I know some say it is not needed but I will never flash a rom without doing it) master clear before flashing a new rom.
zelendel said:
Good point I forgot that the data wipe didnt remove it. So used to doing the needed (yes I know some say it is not needed but I will never flash a rom without doing it) master clear before flashing a new rom.
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I never master clear any more but I do make regular backups to my pc. Never know when a master clear might be needed.
On a somewhat related topic... Say one wants to restore backups to a stock build with TiBu? Is there a way to turn on sideloading without using the androidcentral loader?
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On a somewhat related topic... Say one wants to restore backups to a stock build with TiBu? Is there a way to turn on sideloading without using the androidcentral loader?
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Have a look HERE
Question! What if I use Titanium Backup in a earlier release of Axura (RC2.1) and backup everything+system data? Then once I go back to stock and reflash Axura 2.2, restore it? Does anyone foresee any issues?
So in essence it would look like so:
Axura 2.1 -> TiBu + system -> Restore Eclair 2.1 w/ ODIN -> Axura 2.2 -> restore TiBu backup + system
I ask this because I know going from eclair to froyo and restoring apps+system data is a bad idea, but from froyo to froyo it should work....right?
Thanks in advance!
Anyone?
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In theory it should not be an issue but from build to build some system apps change. My suggestion do not restore anything system
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I know there will be someone saying that this is already posted but I have not seen as with multiple searches and extensive readings.
Can all the Apps from the SCH-I500 be posted somewhere and I mean the APK's or zipped versions on this site? With all the flashing there are a few from the original that are very good, then they are lost. Or an area to teach us how to abstract them from the ROM's we found them on or the originals. Or link's to where they can be found?
Like Desk Cradle etc. I have flashed many of the ROMs like the Froyo (Kaos), Super Clean, DJ05, DL09 the new Red recovery kernel etc. but always there was something good from the original that I can not find or wished I had back.
Also, is there a moderator on the site that can get the non Fascinate stuff out of here or move? Like Eris, Telus, I9000 we are confused enough without keeping it pure - Samsung Fascinate SCH-I500.
Thaks for any help or suggestions,
norm883
You can back your apps up with titanium back up or astro file manager
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Skillz360 Thank you for your reply.
But Lucy please Esplain!
I have used Titanium and backed up some but as usual the wrong ones the VZW crap.
Do I just backup all that I like or would be interesed in? Then when I reload Titanium on the new ROM the apps will be there for reinstall? Also in Astro all I see are the APK's I downloaded from Market or not the OEM's. And I am rooted.
Thanks for your help and suggestions.
norm883
norm883 said:
Skillz360 Thank you for your reply.
But Lucy please Esplain!
I have used Titanium and backed up some but as usual the wrong ones the VZW crap.
Do I just backup all that I like or would be interesed in? Then when I reload Titanium on the new ROM the apps will be there for reinstall? Also in Astro all I see are the APK's I downloaded from Market or not the OEM's. And I am rooted.
Thanks for your help and suggestions.
norm883
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use Titanium to backup what ever apps you want and you can just use it to restore the app or apps that you want on a new rom ect.. yes when you reinstall Titanium on a new rom you can just load your app or app that you want
If you go into Rom Manager, under sonofskywalker3's section, most of the stock apps can be reinstalled from there.
Thanks
I have seen under ROM Manager but they do not have many and does anyone know where they go when you use ROM Manager or are they only temporary?
norm883
Actually as well as I'm aware, by default Titanium Backup does not backup system apks, it only makes a backup of system app data. I use Root Explorer, go into the /system/app/ folder and manually select and copy over desired apks onto the sdcard.
Look for stock deodexed ROMs, you can unzip them and get your desired apks onto your sdcard, and use Root Explorer to copy them into your /system/app/ folder.
If you need any of the system APKs let me know. I have most of them available in deodexed form.... I believe from the DJ05 leak. But should work on whatever. Just let me know which ones you need and I can send you a link for them.
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I have seen under ROM Manager but they do not have many and does anyone know where they go when you use ROM Manager or are they only temporary?
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they will be installed in system/app like normal when you pull them down in RM
I'm new to rooting. Just got my moto droid (1) rooted yesterday using superoneclick. Worked Flawlessly. I've installed barnacle wifi teather utilizing my newely establish root 'superuser'.
I've been reading up on custom roms, removing bloatware, ect and am anxious to give it all a go HOWEVER first things first, I need to make a copy/backup of my stock phone's rom right?
I need to be rooted to make a backup right?
Now I've heard about nandroid and titanium back. From what I've gathered titanium backs up all ur apps and there settings to reintall after flashing a new rom,...right? (Since flashin wipes internal memory)
I think, Nandroid is needed for installing new/custom roms and/or reverting back to my stock rom.....nandroid is a program correct?
Am I following this correctly?
Id really appreciate your time to answer my elemenatry questions.
Thanks!
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Basically, nandroid is a disc image.
You can restore your entire OS quite quickly.
Titanium is simply a very good program for backing up your apps along with data so all your settings are saved.
Restoring with titanium can take a long time though since each app gets installed one by one - and that's when it is working properly. For me, it just keeps closing itself after restoring a singe app.
I haven't seen it recommended but I HIGHLY recommend SuperManager for for backing up and restoring. It doesn't ask any questions. It just puts all your stuff back and it doesn't crash.
So I use SM for restoring the whole shot, and Titanium when I'm being more selective.
if you use nandroid to backup then after you have flashed your new ROM then you can put the nandroid files in the sd/openrecovery/nandroid/ folder, boot into open recovery and pick the nandroid files to install.
I got super manager and backed up my apps to sd card.
Next I got rom manager...now my problem is I cannot get rom manager to back up my stock rom. Flashed the clockworkmod via rom manager and tried booting into recovery,..I only get stock recovery.
Went back into rom manager and flashed the alternative recovery SPRecovery, still no luck booting into an aftermarket recovery.
What the heck am I doing wrong?
Thanks in advance.
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I haven't gotten ROM Manager to work consistently, but I find that after a few attempts at booting into Clockwork Recovery, it'll eventually go through. Maybe someone can point out a way to make the process take less time.
Got up this morning and thought id try again.
Flashed the clockwork recovery then instantly hit reboot in recovery and voila!! It worked! Weird tho. Made my first nandroid.
Does anyone have a suggestion on what rom to give a try for a motorola droid (1)?
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kmcgill88 said:
Got up this morning and thought id try again.
Flashed the clockwork recovery then instantly hit reboot in recovery and voila!! It worked! Weird tho. Made my first nandroid.
Does anyone have a suggestion on what rom to give a try for a motorola droid (1)?
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If you want 2.2 you should try CM6 or Froyomod 2.5.0
If you want 2.3 you should try Shadowmodbrv.2.3.2 build 3. It's the fastest rom i've tried so far....or CM7 which works quite good.
On all of these roms the battery life is really good...Many people say that their battery life sucks with custom roms but actually they havent had their battery status calibrated correctly. For example, the battery percentage shows 30%, when actually it has 60%.
Search on the forums about calibrating yours if you want...
Hope I've been helpful...
Cheers, vladstercr!
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If you want 2.2 you should try CM6 or Froyomod 2.5.0
If you want 2.3 you should try Shadowmodbrv.2.3.2 build 3. It's the fastest rom i've tried so far....or CM7 which works quite good.
On all of these roms the battery life is really good...Many people say that their battery life sucks with custom roms but actually they havent had their battery status calibrated correctly. For example, the battery percentage shows 30%, when actually it has 60%.
Search on the forums about calibrating yours if you want...
Hope I've been helpful...
Cheers, vladstercr!
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I've heard the CM name around a lot. When I go into rom manager I see the CM 6 but I'm still lil nervous to give it a shot. This is my only phone. Soo,....maybe a few more tutorials to review the process once more..just cuz
Now when I flash, say, CM6 I don't need to worry about root or superuser permission anymore do I?
Also what apps, if any, will be pre installed with CM6? (I have backed up my apps with super manager)
I really appreciate everyones help! THANK YOU!
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Since you did a nandroid, you have very little to worry about.
But, just to be super safe, you can copy the nandroid to your computer.
If anything goes wrong, you have an instant restore handy.
About Super Manager - I forgot to mention that to save all your user data along with your apps and to also have a quick restore process, back up using the smbk option.
When you flash CM6, you will stay rooted and be overclocked to 900 mhz.
There is no bloat installed with CM6 but all the essentials are there.
I don't know anything about ROM Manager stuff because I can't use it on my Milestone.
vladstercr said:
If you want 2.2 you should try CM6 or Froyomod 2.5.0
If you want 2.3 you should try Shadowmodbrv.2.3.2 build 3. It's the fastest rom i've tried so far....or CM7 which works quite good.
On all of these roms the battery life is really good...Many people say that their battery life sucks with custom roms but actually they havent had their battery status calibrated correctly. For example, the battery percentage shows 30%, when actually it has 60%.
Search on the forums about calibrating yours if you want...
Hope I've been helpful...
Cheers, vladstercr!
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is this the shadwmod you're referring to? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=939555
will this work for the droid 1 (as long as i flash the proper baseband)? i've tried a fair # of gb builds but not this one and wanna give it a shot. thanks
I've had a few questions about nandroid. So far I do a full back up so I can revert if a new ROM is playing up. If I decide to stick with a new ROM, can I just restore elements of that full backup to get my data (I.e. texts, call logs and apps) back? Or is it all or nothing?
At the moment I just put up with starting fresh but it would be helpful to retain some of that data. (I'm getting bored starting angry birds over and over again!)
Cheers
S
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skribzy said:
I've had a few questions about nandroid. So far I do a full back up so I can revert if a new ROM is playing up. If I decide to stick with a new ROM, can I just restore elements of that full backup to get my data (I.e. texts, call logs and apps) back? Or is it all or nothing?
At the moment I just put up with starting fresh but it would be helpful to retain some of that data. (I'm getting bored starting angry birds over and over again!)
Cheers
S
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nandroid is only useful for a FULL restore of your entire phone's state. it backs up everything in IMG format, and then re-flashes it *in whole* in the event of a restore. so, short answer, no... you can't restore bits and pieces from a nandroid backup.
HOWEVER, Titanium Backup is my app of choice for backing up applications and app data (because no one should have to start over at angry birds!). The donate/Pro app is TOTALLY worth the few bucks, and it's very easy to use.
To use Titanium Backup: download from market (i really suggest the Pro version), click "Batch" then "backup user apps". When you start fresh with a new ROM, cancel all your active downloads, re-download Titanium Backup from the market and select batch>restore missing apps + app data. This way you restore the data associated with your apps, but not a previous ROMs system data. If you are unable to cancel your downloads, there is also a batch method to uninstall all backed up apps, that way you can make sure that you install your backup and not a "fresh" copy from the market.
A quick note about angry birds using Titanium Backup on GB -- with most GB ROMs, Angry Birds will install by default to the sdcard. They, however, will not run on the sdcard. As soon as you've done a restore using Titanium, just go to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications, and click Angry Birds and select "Move to Phone". Then you should be good
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nandroid is only useful for a FULL restore of your entire phone's state. it backs up everything in IMG format, and then re-flashes it *in whole* in the event of a restore. so, short answer, no... you can't restore bits and pieces from a nandroid backup.
HOWEVER, Titanium Backup is my app of choice for backing up applications and app data (because no one should have to start over at angry birds!). The donate/Pro app is TOTALLY worth the few bucks, and it's very easy to use.
To use Titanium Backup: download from market (i really suggest the Pro version), click "Batch" then "backup user apps". When you start fresh with a new ROM, cancel all your active downloads, re-download Titanium Backup from the market and select batch>restore missing apps + app data. This way you restore the data associated with your apps, but not a previous ROMs system data. If you are unable to cancel your downloads, there is also a batch method to uninstall all backed up apps, that way you can make sure that you install your backup and not a "fresh" copy from the market.
A quick note about angry birds using Titanium Backup on GB -- with most GB ROMs, Angry Birds will install by default to the sdcard. They, however, will not run on the sdcard. As soon as you've done a restore using Titanium, just go to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications, and click Angry Birds and select "Move to Phone". Then you should be good
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thanks very much for such useful advice!
skribzy said:
At the moment I just put up with starting fresh but it would be helpful to retain some of that data. (I'm getting bored starting angry birds over and over again!)
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I have found that TitaniumPro doesn't always restore setting properly. Sometimes you have to go into the individual app and do a manual restore. I am not sure why this is, but just FYI.
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I have found that TitaniumPro doesn't always restore setting properly. Sometimes you have to go into the individual app and do a manual restore. I am not sure why this is, but just FYI.
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titanium CAN restore system settings / apps, but it's a little bit of a different process to make sure that you don't restore a previous ROM's data, which can cause some pretty serious instabilities if done improperly.
here are some How-Tos for using Titanium Backup: http://www.moddedlogic.com/pe/howto.php
these methods are a little more advanced, and if done improperly can cause instability. these methods can be used in conjunction with restoring "missing apps + app data" like i mentioned above.
skribzy said:
I've had a few questions about nandroid. So far I do a full back up so I can revert if a new ROM is playing up. If I decide to stick with a new ROM, can I just restore elements of that full backup to get my data (I.e. texts, call logs and apps) back? Or is it all or nothing?
At the moment I just put up with starting fresh but it would be helpful to retain some of that data. (I'm getting bored starting angry birds over and over again!)
Cheers
S
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Its neither. Its both. You can't pluck ur call log txt ect data from a nandroid to my knowledge.
I'm new to this but I have the understanding a nandroid is a snapshot of EXACTLY everything you have on your phone, including txt, call log,ect. So as I'm sure you've read its always suggested to creat a nandroid of your original rom before installing a custom rom. Then u can go back in time if need be.
As for restoring your data after installing a new rom you need to backup your apps, I used super manager via smbk file, once you install the new rom go to market (or its pry saved in sd still) reinstall super manager and use the restore button to reinstall all your apps in one fell swoop.
Contacts, calendar, and email r on the google cloud so that will auto resync once u sign into your phone. I still lost my txt, call log, ect but I didn't care about that.
Now that u have your apps back and get a few settings confgured i decided to make a nandroid of my newly installed Rom just in case I F something up and can't figure out how to g back. With the new nandroid created I can revert back to my stock rom or modded rom annd all apps & data will be exactly how I left it.
Hope that helps.
Anyone plz feel free to correct me if I am wrong.
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Its neither. Its both. You can't pluck ur call log txt ect data from a nandroid to my knowledge.
I'm new to this but I have the understanding a nandroid is a snapshot of EXACTLY everything you have on your phone, including txt, call log,ect. So as I'm sure you've read its always suggested to creat a nandroid of your original rom before installing a custom rom. Then u can go back in time if need be.
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It's *possible* but not easy. Nandroid is a **disk image** (.img file) backup, not a file-by-file backup/file dump. While it's *possible* to dissect it and flash bits and pieces, it would be quite advanced since it would have to be flashed using adb or a terminal emulator ...and even then i'm not sure it would actually work without running the full binary scripts from the recovery restore processes. And even if you did get the binaries to run and flash the .img files to the right places, you would run the possibility that the old data would be incompatible with your current ROM / system.
You can unpack the img file in linux if you know how and push pieces of it using adb shell, but that's still sort of going out of your way for something relatively simple. To unpack an .img file in linux:
# Make a directory where you want the file mounted:
sudo mkdir /image
# Then mount the image on the directory:
sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.img /image
# Then you could open the directory with nautilus:
nautilus /image
# When you're done, unmount the img:
sudo unmount /image
Nandroid is a backup of a STATE of your phone, not pieces. To backup apps and data, just use a program, there are a bunch out there. You can also do as I do and pull /system and /data from your phone and backup to your computer. You will need the android sdk though. Just connect via USB and make sure USB Debugging is enabled (settings>applications>development) and run in terminal:
cd [android sdk directory/platform-tools/]
adb devices
(make sure your device shows up)
adb pull /system [local directory]
adb pull /data [local directory]
voila. you now have copies of your /data and /system folders on your computer. you can even do your whole internal storage if you want and can create the proper permissions. however, as a caveat, these will not restore a broken system to stable state like a nandroid will, it's pretty much just for restoring individual apps if you lose them or delete something.
bottom line: nandroid is great for what it's intended for. outside of that, there are reasons why there are backup tools / apps for backing up pieces of your ROM. use them each for what they're intended and you'll be good. nandroid backup/restore is like 3 clicks. same for app restore programs. use the appropriate tools for the appropriate jobs and you'll be juuuuust fine.
EDIT: it's also possible to do an advanced nandroid restore of a certain partition, but it's *highly* advisable not to in almost all circumstances. it will most likely screw up more stuff than it fixes. it's really only helpful if the backup and your current ROM are the exact same.
for instance, if I have a nandroid backup of CM6, and i screw something up in my /data folder, and i'm still running the same version of CM6, then i could advanced nandroid my /data partition back in recovery. outside of that, it's pretty much useless and would do more harm than good.
Hi
I'm sorry to jump in in the discussion like this but reading this discussion confused me a little regarding a possible usage of a nandroid backup.
Given the fact that this type of backup is a full image of the system, can I transfer this backup on another motorola droid and restore it also on there? Or each nandroid is associated to a specific phone (even if the model is the same)?
Thank you so much!
No a nandroid wouldn't necessarily be phone specific.
But it would be OS specific.
There would likely be problems if you restored a CM6 rom (froyo) on a phone that still has eclair on it.
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No a nandroid wouldn't necessarily be phone specific.
But it would be OS specific.
There would likely be problems if you restored a CM6 rom (froyo) on a phone that still has eclair on it.
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it's not necessarily "phone" specific, but it is *device* specific. you wouldn't be able to use a Droid nandroid on a Droid X, for instance. The md5 sum check would fail.
so yes, you would be able to restore a nandroid restore on a backup that you manually moved onto another phone, as long as the device was the same (moto droid to moto droid).
After reading the manual provided in this thread, I decided to root my Galaxy Ace.
Rooting went well and installing CWM5 too. After installing CMW, I made a backup.
Now I want to uninstall some system apps that I don't use, such as Samsung apps.
I keep finding the same answers:
Go to System\apps folder, find the app you want to delete and delete it. But won't that just remove the installation file and leave the program installed?
Second question:
If I decide to flash a new ROM (say CM9), where does my old ROM go and how do I keep programs that I have now (Think free office) in my new ROM?
By the way, this is what you're working with:
Me: much experience with Windows, none with Android.
Samsung Galaxy Ace, Dutch T-Mobile branded Phone.
Thanks for taking the time to read and answer me.
Rob.
Hi,
Okay, after you rooted, you cannot just delete an item right away, i think you need to set permission first before you can delete a system file.
so make sure you set permission first so you can do changes in your system file.
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Nightwing-1 said:
After reading the manual provided in this thread, I decided to root my Galaxy Ace.
Rooting went well and installing CWM5 too. After installing CMW, I made a backup.
Now I want to uninstall some system apps that I don't use, such as Samsung apps.
I keep finding the same answers:
Go to System\apps folder, find the app you want to delete and delete it. But won't that just remove the installation file and leave the program installed?
Second question:
If I decide to flash a new ROM (say CM9), where does my old ROM go and how do I keep programs that I have now (Think free office) in my new ROM?
By the way, this is what you're working with:
Me: much experience with Windows, none with Android.
Samsung Galaxy Ace, Dutch T-Mobile branded Phone.
Thanks for taking the time to read and answer me.
Rob.
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when you flashed a different rom, your old rom will be fully deleted, however make sure you follow the correct procedure in CWM, and also for your apps that you don't want to be deleted everytime you flash a new rom, kindly make a backup.. Titanium Backup app is free in google store and very usefull.. and regarding deleting or editing a system file, you need to set permission to do that, you can try to use Es file manager for that.
hope i helped.
jhay0017 said:
Okay, after you rooted, you cannot just delete an item right away, i think you need to set permission first before you can delete a system file.
so make sure you set permission first so you can do changes in your system file.
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when you flashed a different rom, your old rom will be fully deleted, however make sure you follow the correct procedure in CWM, and also for your apps that you don't want to be deleted everytime you flash a new rom, kindly make a backup.. Titanium Backup app is free in google store and very usefull.. and regarding deleting or editing a system file, you need to set permission to do that, you can try to use Es file manager for that.
hope i helped.
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Is not necessary to change permissions in /system/app folder, the only you need is to mount /system partition as R/W to delete or modify whatever you want, use root explorer (e.g.) to do it, because /system apps have the 644 permissions (THE ROOT USER IS ALLOWED TO EDIT THIS FILES)
And yes titanum back up is a great tool, but all GB apps won't work properly in CM roms so sometimes to restore apps using TB is really painful, you can find at Google Playstore similar apps as ThinkFree even the same app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tf.thinkdroid.amlite so be careful with TB
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Nightwing-1 said:
After reading the manual provided in this thread, I decided to root my Galaxy Ace.
Rooting went well and installing CWM5 too. After installing CMW, I made a backup.
Now I want to uninstall some system apps that I don't use, such as Samsung apps.
I keep finding the same answers:
Go to System\apps folder, find the app you want to delete and delete it. But won't that just remove the installation file and leave the program installed?
Second question:
If I decide to flash a new ROM (say CM9), where does my old ROM go and how do I keep programs that I have now (Think free office) in my new ROM?
By the way, this is what you're working with:
Me: much experience with Windows, none with Android.
Samsung Galaxy Ace, Dutch T-Mobile branded Phone.
Thanks for taking the time to read and answer me.
Rob.
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1. If you remove .apk file you'll remove the app, but not data files
2. I've already explained it
Thanks for your quick replies. I see I still have a lot of learning to do.
@Viper: Can you post a link to your reference on how to remove the datafiles?
I think I'll wait with flashing a ROM, until I completely know what I'm doing.
Rob.
Nightwing-1 said:
Thanks for your quick replies. I see I still have a lot of learning to do.
@Viper: Can you post a link to your reference on how to remove the datafiles?
I think I'll wait with flashing a ROM, until I completely know what I'm doing.
Rob.
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There is no reference, just instal TB and do it deleting data (TB can also clean your cache and dalvik-cache partition even backup your apks and data) or use a filebrowser as root explorer go to /system/app, mount it as R/W and delete what you want, be careful with apps as SystemUI, Statusbar, Phone, Contacts, etc
well you could have a look at this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542749
Thanks for your quick and clear help Viper.
I've seen references tot Titanium Backup. As I understand it, you can compare it to the 'uninstall software' in the Windows settings on a normal computer.
I use 'Total commander' as file explorer, I don't know if this does the same as 'Root explorer', but it does have root rights.
What's the difference between CWM and Titanium Backup. I read that I should make a backup using CWM. But after some research, I now see that I have to use TB aswell to make a backup. All in all a bit confusing.
Nightwing-1 said:
Thanks for your quick and clear help Viper.
I've seen references tot Titanium Backup. As I understand it, you can compare it to the 'uninstall software' in the Windows settings on a normal computer.
I use 'Total commander' as file explorer, I don't know if this does the same as 'Root explorer', but it does have root rights.
What's the difference between CWM and Titanium Backup. I read that I should make a backup using CWM. But after some research, I now see that I have to use TB aswell to make a backup. All in all a bit confusing.
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yes a CWM backup is prefered mostly as it backups everythin including your system apps n data.
Nightwing-1 said:
Thanks for your quick and clear help Viper.
I've seen references tot Titanium Backup. As I understand it, you can compare it to the 'uninstall software' in the Windows settings on a normal computer.
I use 'Total commander' as file explorer, I don't know if this does the same as 'Root explorer', but it does have root rights.
What's the difference between CWM and Titanium Backup. I read that I should make a backup using CWM. But after some research, I now see that I have to use TB aswell to make a backup. All in all a bit confusing.
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CWM can backup your whole rom with all you user data(includes all your apps!), etc.
TB can only backup apps
Now you could think: When CWM backups the rom and my data + apps why I need TB?
The answer is that you can only restore the full rom in CWM. You can restore single apps.
In TB you can restore single apps.
You can use any file explorer with root permissions to delete system apps. Idk, but I like Root Explorer, because of its easy usage
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Thanks for the clear answers.
I'll install Titanium Backup too and start experimenting.
Nightwing-1 said:
Thanks for the clear answers.
I'll install Titanium Backup too and start experimenting.
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there is a separate button for thanx dude! n we all need it!
Mandark52 said:
there is a separate button for thanx dude! n we all need it!
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why do you need thanks? you'll be better... you'll be worse than now?...
I can't belive it :laugh:
Viper The Ripper said:
why do you need thanks? you'll be better... you'll be worse than now?...
I can't belive it :laugh:
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well thats my peraonal problem. It encourages me. N I believe it!!
Since u r totally new I would like u to use a slightly different and easier to understand approach.
Its similar to what others hav said but i feel a lot easier for newbies.
Steps.
1. Install ES File Explorer.
2. Go to system/apps.
3. From options click on TOOLS
4. Then click Root Explorer or Root manager Option.
5. You see the option to uninstall system app. Click on it. Long press the app u wana delete. And uninstall.
To reatore apps from previous ROM.
1. Create a backup of that ROM using CWM.
2. Download Nandroid Manager on your new ROM.
3. Click on the Backup File displayed.
4. Restore the apps you want.
I hope this was usefull.
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After all of your suggestions, I did some research about deleting system apps and freeing up memory. On a Dutch forum, someone said that if you delete system apps, it doesn't give you space for new apps, because this memory space is reserved.
Can anyone tell me if that is correct, or does the answer form Omega_Warrior really free up memory?
Now I've come across a new item: Bootanimations.
I have found a lot of bootanimations on XDA. Problem is, my Phone has .qmg files, instead of .zip files. Some forums suggest that you can rename the Original files to 'bootsamsung.qmg'.bak' and replace them with the .zip files. Other forums insist that you need the .qmg format, in order to make the bootanimation work.
Which of the comments is true?
Nightwing-1 said:
After all of your suggestions, I did some research about deleting system apps and freeing up memory. On a Dutch forum, someone said that if you delete system apps, it doesn't give you space for new apps, because this memory space is reserved.
Can anyone tell me if that is correct, or does the answer form Omega_Warrior really free up memory?
Now I've come across a new item: Bootanimations.
I have found a lot of bootanimations on XDA. Problem is, my Phone has .qmg files, instead of .zip files. Some forums suggest that you can rename the Original files to 'bootsamsung.qmg'.bak' and replace them with the .zip files. Other forums insist that you need the .qmg format, in order to make the bootanimation work.
Which of the comments is true?
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Yes if u delete a system App u do free up some space but that space cannot be used by u unless u install an app as a system app... But it still frees up space, reduces background process and in some cases affects performance in positive way.
Regarding Bootanimations .zip files do the trick. Simply download the zip file u want as bootanimation. Rename it as bootanimation.zip. go to system/media and paste it there. Reboot n it's done... This method has been tried by me. N it works. I hav no idea abt the.qmg files u tlkin abt...
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omega_warrior said:
Yes if u delete a system App u do free up some space but that space cannot be used by u unless u install an app as a system app... But it still frees up space, reduces background process and in some cases affects performance in positive way.
Regarding Bootanimations .zip files do the trick. Simply download the zip file u want as bootanimation. Rename it as bootanimation.zip. go to system/media and paste it there. Reboot n it's done... This method has been tried by me. N it works. I hav no idea abt the.qmg files u tlkin abt...
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Well you can transform useful apps as Operamini or Quickpic as system app using Titanium backup e.g. so you can use this free space as you elwant...
About Bootanimations you need to flash a CUSTOM KERNEL (CF-ROOT, BATTERY EXTENDER,...) to enable this feature and the correct path, if you don't flash it you can't use this path and bootanimation.zips
Be careful with system apps or follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1542749
New ROM
OFF TOPIC
Instead of starting a new topic, I decided to post my question in this topic. Just incase someone else is following the same path as I am.
Back on topic:
I found this ROM review and I'm thinking about installing it to my Galaxy Ace.
Here is the link to the review: http://www.technobuzzing.com/sgs-ii-v11-2-samsung-galaxy-ace-custom-rom/
These are the steps I intend to follow:
Create a backup of all my personal files.
Use Titanium backup and CWM to backup the Phone itself.
Next steps:
Boot into CWM
Choose 'wipe data/factory reset'.
Choose 'Wipe cache'.
Choose 'Advanced' and 'wipe dalvik cache'.
'Install zip from SD-card'.
If I left any safety precautions out, or missed a step, please tell me.
Anyone who has this ROM installed, feel free to share your comments on this ROM.
@Omega Warrior: The QMG files for the bootanimations are aparently a Samsung thing.
Thanks for any reactions.
Nightwing-1 said:
OFF TOPIC
Instead of starting a new topic, I decided to post my question in this topic. Just incase someone else is following the same path as I am.
Back on topic:
I found this ROM review and I'm thinking about installing it to my Galaxy Ace.
Here is the link to the review: http://www.technobuzzing.com/sgs-ii-v11-2-samsung-galaxy-ace-custom-rom/
These are the steps I intend to follow:
Create a backup of all my personal files.
Use Titanium backup and CWM to backup the Phone itself.
Next steps:
Boot into CWM
Choose 'wipe data/factory reset'.
Choose 'Wipe cache'.
Choose 'Advanced' and 'wipe dalvik cache'.
'Install zip from SD-card'.
If I left any safety precautions out, or missed a step, please tell me.
Anyone who has this ROM installed, feel free to share your comments on this ROM.
@Omega Warrior: The QMG files for the bootanimations are aparently a Samsung thing.
Thanks for any reactions.
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You are in the correct way
The most important a CWM backup just in case something goes wrong and you'll need to go back so perfect!
I used this rom, IMO all SpaceCaker works are amazing. He is one of the best themer we have
About QMG files, yes only stock or mainly stock roms have QMG files as bootanimation. Custom roms always or almost always have bootanimations in .zip files, this is allowed due to the custom kernels that support this kind of tweaks, so custom rom = custom bootanimation.zip (mainly)
About the link provided:
You can find the last updated version here in xda , even you can read changelog, install instructions, patches etc
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1453165
So you're saying "go ahead and good luck"?
Because if it goes wrong... my backup Phone is a Nokia 3510. The type that asks "share by sms or smoke signal?".:fingers-crossed:
Nightwing-1 said:
So you're saying "go ahead and good luck"?
Because if it goes wrong... my backup Phone is a Nokia 3510. The type that asks "share by sms or smoke signal?".:fingers-crossed:
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well I'm not forcing you xDDD, but there isn't other way to do it so if you have the GT-S5830 model, there shouldn't be problem
And yes CWM backup works fine and is the best thing you can do before flashing nothing just in case something goes wrong
So good luck and preparing the fire for smoke signals!! (joke ) XDDD
Let's say I've installed an application by flashing its zip in custom recovery such as an enhanced camera like this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2540030
Or the Google Dialer like the one found over at this link
http://pocketnow.com/2013/12/26/install-google-dialer
My intuition tells me these can't simply be uninstalled in the apps manager, so how does one do a complete uninstallation of an application that was originally installed by flashing its zip? (I suppose my example applications pertain specifically to 4.4.2 based AOSP ROMs but I figured this might be a generalized process)
Well if you can't uninstall it through conventional ways then delete the apk file using a root file explorer.
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tkuligowski said:
Well if you can't uninstall it through conventional ways then delete the apk file using a root file explorer.
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And what's the path for the root APKs?
Make a back up first and restore it or pick through the installer zip to see what it's installing (the paths will match) and delete the changes. Some installers do more then just drop an apk though.
mjones73 said:
Make a back up first and restore it or pick through the installer zip to see what it's installing (the paths will match) and delete the changes. Some installers do more then just drop an apk though.
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Yeah I know making and restoring a backup is always an option but I was trying to see if there was an easier, less resource demanding way of doing it. Unfortunately, you're probably right in saying forensically picking through the installer zip is the only way to know where all the installed parts of the application lie. I really wish when people posted these installation zips that they'd also post a backout procedure but you practically never see it. What's with that?
bsg273 said:
Yeah I know making and restoring a backup is always an option but I was trying to see if there was an easier, less resource demanding way of doing it. Unfortunately, you're probably right in saying forensically picking through the installer zip is the only way to know where all the installed parts of the application lie. I really wish when people posted these installation zips that they'd also post a backout procedure but you practically never see it. What's with that?
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I guess they don't think you'll ever uninstall it. Yeah honestly I don't know.
mjones73 said:
I guess they don't think you'll ever uninstall it. Yeah honestly I don't know.
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Hahaha, of course, cuz applications never become outdated or buggy. lol
can't you freeze it with TB?
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You uninstall them by using Titanium backup. Just long press whatever the app is.
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CharliexCharger said:
You uninstall them by using Titanium backup. Just long press whatever the app is.
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Not every zip is installing an apk, some make file changes, etc also...