[Q] Help me solve keyboard mystery please! - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

So here is my story.. i have a perfectly working kaiser, and one with a broken lcd.. but both of them are in terrible cosmetic condition.. so i decide to order from ebay a full housing (with keyboard included) to make it look good and give it to my brother as a present..
I perfectly disassemble the device with the working screen and easily install it in the new housing.. but when i turn it on i realise that the only working hardware keyboard buttons were q e u o f h l and some arrows i think...
My first conclusion was that the keyboard included in the housing was not working correctly so i decide to use my old one. but to my surprise the old keyboard also has only the same working buttons!!!
after that i also tried the keyboard from my other kaiser ( with the broken screen) with the same results.
So up to this point, i guess it is safe to assume that the keyboards have no problem.. but then the mystery grows cause i exchanged every single piece of the phone with the broken kaiser's parts and the problem remains the same...
Any idea?? i am an engineer and problems like that that i cannot think of a reason that they are happening drive me nuts!!! please help me sleep at nights..
thanx in advance!

Hooray! Someone else who has the exact same problem as me! The phone I have had the LCD screen replaced and once it was reassembled, the keyboard is wacky. I tried reseating it and the same keys you mention are the only ones working: Q E U O F H L, CAP/Shift, Tab, Space, Enter and the 4 arrow keys. Nothing else works. I'd love to see if anyone has a solution to our problem. =)
Also, I'm not sure if it does it for you but the backlighting doesn't turn back on once it goes off - even when pressing the working keys. I found other posts on this forum with similar problems (with no replies) but their keyboards were not working at all. There has to be a simple solution that we're missing if it's this common.

Thats really weird that we have the same keys working... it really has to be something we are missing... but i have changed everything..
the only thing i didnt change is the lcd, so now that you are telling me that this happened only after you changed the lcd, it got me thinking that maybe the lcd is not as inocent as it may seem... cause,ok, my first thought was like wtf the lcd couldnt mess up with the keyboard.. but now that i think about it it is the only thing i havent tried to replace.. i have a broken one but still quite operative, so i will try with this one and get back at you.. if in the meanwhile anyone else knows something or has an idea, please help a little bit!

Like you, I cannot find any reason between the keyboard and the screen that would cause this. They're not connected in any way or share any cables. They connect to different parts of the main board... there's no logic that I can find.
I got mine second-hand and the original owner said she had the LCD replaced because of a couple dead pixels. The keyboard was working fine before that. Let me know what you find out. I was planning on ordering a replacement keyboard assembly from eBay but since you've tried a couple, that saves me from wasting that money.

Unfortunatelly the extra LCD i had was not operating at all, so the test i wanted to do failed, and i still dont know whats causing the problem... i am more or less convinced that i have to buy a new lcd but it is a bit of a risk to change the screen because some buttons on the keyboard dont work, dont you think?? anyway i am wondering y nobody else has nothing to say... this hasnt happened to anyone else??

ilias_alk said:
Unfortunatelly the extra LCD i had was not operating at all, so the test i wanted to do failed, and i still dont know whats causing the problem... i am more or less convinced that i have to buy a new lcd but it is a bit of a risk to change the screen because some buttons on the keyboard dont work, dont you think?? anyway i am wondering y nobody else has nothing to say... this hasnt happened to anyone else??
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Hey, why do not you try endkey replacement, you can read and download it at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704631

Hakim Rahman said:
Hey, why do not you try endkey replacement, you can read and download it at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=704631
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thank you for your reply! but i don't understand how this would help for our problems..
i talked with htc yesterday and they told me it couldnt be the lcd, but during the lcd replacement probably the flexiboard was a little torned (needs a microscope to be verified..) i am giving it for a free test on monday so i guess i l have a more detailed answer soon!!

ilias_alk said:
thank you for your reply! but i don't understand how this would help for our problems..
i talked with htc yesterday and they told me it couldnt be the lcd, but during the lcd replacement probably the flexiboard was a little torned (needs a microscope to be verified..) i am giving it for a free test on monday so i guess i l have a more detailed answer soon!!
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Hmm, that's an interesting find. It's odd that the same problem exists on different phones, unless it's a common section/piece of the board/assembly that gets damaged. Are you going to try and use the assembly from your other phone? Let me know what happens. I'd like to know what piece I need to buy to get mine working again. =)

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Keyboard doubles n and m when typing

I don't know if it's the new rom or just the 'age' (3 month now)...
But since approx. two weekes, by typing messages on the x1 keyboard it doubles or even tripples the letter n, sometimes m? This very annoying...
Anyone have the same problem? All other keys work normal...
Anyone knows how to set a delay at the keyboard? When I press a key and hold it, it take half a second or so until it multiplys the letter. This time i would like to change. Any registry entry?
Thanks for the help...
same issue .. not only m and n on my side..
refer to this post 4 further infos...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=483644
same mine. it's only dust
Mine's the opposite. My 'M' doesn't seem very sensitive. My words always seem to miss that 'M'. But the one that's real sensitive is the '.'. That seems to appear all the time.
it started like this with me .. the "M" alone was the problem ..
now the whole keyboard triples EVERYTHING ! -.-''
we really need help
I had that issue briefly with a R2A German Generic I tried. Never happened again though .
You can improve the situation by lowering the rate at which your key strokes are repeated by going to Settings > Buttons then on the "Up/Down Control" tab if you move the first slider to Slow and the Repeat Rate slider to Slow then the problem sort of "disappears"
I had the same issue with a lot of keys, i, m,n,k,l etc...
I did a hard reset and upgraded my rom, installed sms-chat... did everything but the issue persisted.
Finally i took it to the service center and they replaced the plate underneath which senses the keystroke.
It works fine now...
i dunno about u guys
but i spent all night cleanning the keyboard & its working fine now
its hard ,i used a YouTube video.
hatlo0or said:
i dunno about u guys
but i spent all night cleanning the keyboard & its working fine now
its hard ,i used a YouTube video.
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Exactly how did you cleaned your keyboard? I want to clean it by myself too.. Which tools did you use?
I used this vedio Xperia X1 - Disassembly Rear
Its harder than it looks , if you try it be VERY carefull as the parts can be easily broken​
hatlo0or said:
I used this vedio Xperia X1 - Disassembly Rear
Its harder than it looks , if you try it be VERY carefull as the parts can be easily broken​
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Thanks a lot man!.. i'll give it a try and post the results cause this is a very common problem with the x1's. And probably as common as the cracks on the silver x1's.
Again.. Thanks a lot!
try this fix
i got this cab a while back for this problems, seems to work on wm6.5 also
disassembling did not help - there was no part to clean or to mechanically tighten.
vrbcik said:
disassembling did not help - there was no part to clean or to mechanically tighten.
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Did you try the disassembly and clean the keyboard?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535664
aww wut? i have a problem with my X key as well! i have to push harder to use it and i really dont want to fiddle around with the parts into to clean it.
Great
Hkt said:
Did you try the disassembly and clean the keyboard?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=535664
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Ok, I have done it oncemore - and it seems it helped. Although I am sure it was not dirty from "outside". I would say, it was the sticker or the glue from the sticker which made the contacts dirty.
madjokeer said:
i got this cab a while back for this problems, seems to work on wm6.5 also
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how does this work what does it do any idea?
I haven't read through all the thread, but I can tell everyone who has this keyboard problem of multiple keystrokes and no keystrokes that it is HARDWARE and it can get worse over time. It can be sometimes lessened by some software tweaks but.... don't expect anything major.
I had the same issue, first starting with "f" then spreading over to space, l, m, n and a lot more keys.
The phone was sent to repair three times with no improvement until the third time when it was replaced. I sent it to Flextronics in Newmarket, ON with an RMA# from Sony Ericsson. I still have the worksheets and everything else if anyone wants to make a sticky because I see a lot of posts about this.
My original phone was a 08W36, I now have a 09W30 with no problems so far...
Better get it fixed before it goes out of warranty.
For those of you out of warranty, I think there were a few threads about this explaining how to disassemble the keyboard and clean the plates.
andreitu said:
I haven't read through all the thread, but I can tell everyone who has this keyboard problem of multiple keystrokes and no keystrokes that it is HARDWARE and it can get worse over time. It can be sometimes lessened by some software tweaks but.... don't expect anything major.
I had the same issue, first starting with "f" then spreading over to space, l, m, n and a lot more keys.
The phone was sent to repair three times with no improvement until the third time when it was replaced. I sent it to Flextronics in Newmarket, ON with an RMA# from Sony Ericsson. I still have the worksheets and everything else if anyone wants to make a sticky because I see a lot of posts about this.
My original phone was a 08W36, I now have a 09W30 with no problems so far...
Better get it fixed before it goes out of warranty.
For those of you out of warranty, I think there were a few threads about this explaining how to disassemble the keyboard and clean the plates.
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how long did you spend without your x1? sending it to getting it back because obviously if its gonna take 2 weeks then i'll be hesitant to send it :S

Lower part of digitizer not working

Hi,
My friend gave me his broken G1(digitizer+screen).
I've bought new ones and replaced them.
Now i have a weird problem that the lower part of the digitizer is not responding, i cannot open the menu button or touch anything there.
but if i hold my finger for few seconds and then let go then it will open a "quick search".. like it is responding.
is it possible that i've messed something along the way or that the digitizer was not working from the factory?
Also was wondering if there is some program to calibrate?
Thanks
Anyone?
can't help you actually, but i hope this hint helps you:
the g1 has a capacitive touchscreen, it doesnt require a digitizer / calibrating...
but as i don't know how capacitive touchscreens work in detail i can't help you...
I have the same problem :S
I have seen posts about the lower part of the digitizer not working. I think your digitizer is defective. Try wiping and installing your rom again or If you can, see if you can disconnect the ribbon connecting the digitizer to the LCD and then connect it back to the LCD, restart your phone and If it still does not work then your digitizer is probably defective. Contact the seller and ask for a refund or replacement would be the best choice.
Ye I managed to fix it.
I opened and reconnected my phone probably 100 times :S
Oh well, I hope its fixed permanently and Iwon't have to open it again incase it drops out again :S
If you just recently bought the digitizer, i would suggest you ask for a replacement so that problem would not occur again.
theoneonly said:
Ye I managed to fix it.
I opened and reconnected my phone probably 100 times :S
Oh well, I hope its fixed permanently and Iwon't have to open it again incase it drops out again :S
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did this really work?!?!?!?

X1i Touch Screen Stopped working??

Hey guys,
I've had my X1i for a year now. No hard falls most falls are on soft surfaces. & Suddenly today morning woke up & the touch screen isn't responding. So I looked up posts, some said turn it off & turn it back along with removing the battery & it should work fine. Tried that, worked for a bit then stopped working again. Also tried soft-reseting & gave the same result. So is there any other method you guys know ? I'm thinking the other type of reseting..forgot what it's called but that'll delete everything so i gotta back things up first. So any solutions? & thanks in advance.
Have you got a screen protector on it? If so, try lifting the edges of it a little.
Nope, no screen protector. Does it have to do with any .cabs i've installed before ? Or they're not related? Is the battery related? Could it cause something like that?
I once run into the following, it may help you too:
after installing an app(from a cab) my screen was allmost non responsive.
Calibration didn't help.
I have "Advannced config" installed, uppon checkin the sensitivity it was waaaaay down, even under default.
Hope it helps for you too =)
i had the same problem to on my proto x1
it completely stopped working and i tried everything (reflash rom, boot android)
but all without luck so i bought a replacement screen
after a while my touch screen started working again but still occasionally fails
i have not yet replaced my touchscreen, i am thinking about a loose connector or something...
btw i was on official r3 fw
your flex cable might have worn out!
Jonny4911 said:
your flex cable might have worn out!
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Where is that located? Where can I get a new one?
kyuubikitsuni said:
Where is that located? Where can I get a new one?
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here is one thread about it, there should be others if you search some more than I did
and this would be a means to get a new one (official site, similar price), if it really is the cause and you don't like to tinker
cheers and gl
If your LCD is working, then it could be bad digitizer like mine instead of the ribbon cable. (Well, I use X1 a lot in humid place like bathroom.....). Just pay a few extra to buy the LCD+Digitizer for about ~$30 that will save you a lot headache for just the digitizer alone. There's a thread in X1 accessories forum.

X1 touch screen issues and more

Hey guys, this is my first post, I'm glad to be a part of this community.
3 days ago, while surfing the web, my phone stopped responding. After restarting it, the touch screen stopped working with the phone flipped in landscape mode. In normal mode it was working fine. After one day the touch screen wasn't responding fine even in normal mode, I would have to perform screen alignment a few times a day for it to respond correctly. In addition to that, now the screen won't even change to landscape mode when I flip the phone, it just freezes. I don't have warranty, I have the latest software version from SE installed. Clear storage didn't help. Got any ideas? Do you think it might be a hardware problem or software?
Thank you for reading this!
PS: I've just reinstalled the latest software from SE and still the same
nat'
Welcome, bro, but sorry to hear about your problem.
Did you make any tweaks to the registry or anything? If not, I fear this is a hardware problem. You could try installing the X1 softtouch cab in my signature, because that maxes out the screen sensitivity, but I'm not optimistic.
Let us know.
This is definately a hardware problem, if your under warrenty send it in asap, other wise browse this forum 4 other cases
might be ribbon problem
anyway I would second it's hardware related
Thanks allot for the quick answers. After reinstalling the entire software again, I'm also pretty sure it a hardware issue. I'm gonna look into that ribbon thread. If I don't solve anything I guess I'll just have to take it to a service. :|
Hello, sad to hear about ur problem.
There has also occured a similar problem to me, but way more harder problem.
I read about the ribbon thing, and looked into it a bit more. How to open the whole phone and check the ribbon cable, also named flex cable if I am correct.
The cable were cut in half.. At the moment I am trying to find a store of where to buy one, I found a site from Sweden, cause that's where I am from but the price is not that cheap, around 600sek=85 dollars.
Does any1 know a site where I can find a cheaper one?
If not, I guess I have to buy this cable..
Edit:
I found another site, ebay. Way more cheaper than the previous site I gave.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/for-Sony-Eric...ries_MobilePhoneBatteries?hash=item563a472301
Sorry dont use the link above, out of sale..
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However, if the problem is the ribbon cable.. Go into ebay and search for Xperia ribbon cable.
You will find way more lower prices.
natarau said:
I guess I'll just have to take it to a service. :|
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Yup.

[Q] Milestone touch screen problem???

Yesterday when i take my milestone out of my pocket I noticed that the Settings touch button(second from left) wasn't working, every other "bar" button was working fine, except that one. Then I noticed there's a vertical line, that goes from the Setting button to the top of the phone that doesn't work. It simply stopped working... Some1 Help me pliz. It' s a Software or Hardware problem, and if it's a Software problem this thing will solve my problem??
globaldirectparts.com/Motorola-A855-Digitizer-p/mot1032930.htm
Thanks Very Much!!
Sounds like your problem is similar to mine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916527
Lesiroth said:
Sounds like your problem is similar to mine:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=916527
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Are u already solved the problem?
fpatrik17 said:
Yesterday when i take my milestone out of my pocket I noticed that the Settings touch button(second from left) wasn't working, every other "bar" button was working fine, except that one. Then I noticed there's a vertical line, that goes from the Setting button to the top of the phone that doesn't work. It simply stopped working... Some1 Help me pliz. It' s a Software or Hardware problem, and if it's a Software problem this thing will solve my problem??
globaldirectparts.com/Motorola-A855-Digitizer-p/mot1032930.htm
Thanks Very Much!!
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same with my phone, may be digitizer was broken
Are u using a custom Rom or the Original ? My touchscreen had a similar issue, and reflashing the ROM solved it. It took 2 flashes, but the issue is gone.
Dont know if yours is the same, but if the issue still remains, atleast it can confirmed that its a hardware issue and not a software one.
shreyas99 said:
Are u using a custom Rom or the Original ? My touchscreen had a similar issue, and reflashing the ROM solved it. It took 2 flashes, but the issue is gone.
Dont know if yours is the same, but if the issue still remains, atleast it can confirmed that its a hardware issue and not a software one.
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I have used CM6 on my phone, but when i got this issue, i made my phone back to 2.1. The problem is still standing.
uh oh. Looks like a Hardware issue then. U still might wanna take to the store and get it verified. Is it still under warranty ? Any possibility of an exchange ?
shreyas99 said:
uh oh. Looks like a Hardware issue then. U still might wanna take to the store and get it verified. Is it still under warranty ? Any possibility of an exchange ?
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No warranty... :/ I really love this phone..
link: cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Touch-Screen-Digitizer-Motorola-Milestone-A855-/370476035985?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item564217af91#ht_997wt_1200[/url]
This may solve my problem??
Havent seen any such issues.. Thanks god..
it's similar to my problem, I had the back button through the top of the screen not working..
I have tried flashing, factory resets, and whatever I can do, but still no changed,, so I tried to ask the closest customer service and they said that it's the touchscreen panel must be thrown away to get the new one..
is it really true ?
please share this problem,,
thanks,,
fckndrmr said:
it's similar to my problem, I had the back button through the top of the screen not working..
I have tried flashing, factory resets, and whatever I can do, but still no changed,, so I tried to ask the closest customer service and they said that it's the touchscreen panel must be thrown away to get the new one..
is it really true ?
please share this problem,,
thanks,,
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I have bought a new touchpanel today.. now waiting for the shipping.
I will write here, when i replaced it what will happen 2 me.
See u later!
I have a mililar problem, right side of screen wont work... flash to 2.1 dont slove this problem
Hi all!
I was having the same problem with the column of numbers 3, 6, 9 of dialpad. Looking for the solution in google, I have read that this problem is probably caused due to the moisture... so yesterday I turned of my milestone, removed the battery, SIM and SD cards and left it inside an enviromental chamber @ +70 celsius degress for 1 hour and guess what? Problem solved!
I hope that it works for anyone that are having the same problem!
Regards
Lucas
lfsupino said:
Hi all!
I was having the same problem with the column of numbers 3, 6, 9 of dialpad. Looking for the solution in google, I have read that this problem is probably caused due to the moisture... so yesterday I turned of my milestone, removed the battery, SIM and SD cards and left it inside an enviromental chamber @ +70 celsius degress for 1 hour and guess what? Problem solved!
I hope that it works for anyone that are having the same problem!
Regards
Lucas
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where do you suggest one gets an environmental chamber?
environmentalchambers R'US of course
xploited said:
where do you suggest one gets an environmental chamber?
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I have had good success with a combo of rice (inside a ziplock bag) to absorb humidity and/or a toaster over at the lowest bake setting.
Worked on MANY electronic devices over the years.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA Premium App
Same problem here. I've solved it by changing the digitizer (ebay 25 euros). Works fine now but in the mean time I change for a Desire HD... good by Milestone !
If you decide to change the digitizer, be patient, fixing th Milestone is not an user friendly task But if you take your time it's ok !
ive the same problem, and i believe that's because of moisture. because every time when its raining except the problem with right side of screen im not even able to use the phone touch screen doesn't work at all and the phone just does something by itself! this issue started with small vertical bar from right side of screen and it growing everyday now im not able to use right side of screen till home button.
i want to know do i have to replace touchscreen or i can fix it with something to absorb humidity?
thanks in advance

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