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Leave Nexus for Dell Streak?

Anybody going to trade up to the Dell Streak?
I love everything about it (especially now that it's rooted!).
The only drawbacks are the 1.6 version of the OS and that there may be a certain tool-factor when holding that big thing on your face to take a call.
I'm in the US and waiting for the unlocked version to come to this side of the pond the the next month or so.

If it get's FroYo I would be mighty tempted, and T-Mobile 3G bands is a must which I don't think it supports

Ya it's only going to support AT&T. I have T-Mobile, but still thinking of getting an AT&T sim and throwing it in there. Though their new data plans are kind of weird now.. :/

I thought I read that Dell is releasing one with AWS bands as well for T-mobile. That being said, I don't think it can properly be called a "trade up" vis a vis the Nexus One.

I wont. The streak is to big for me. I like something around 3.5-4.0 for the screen size.

hmarcus said:
Anybody going to trade up to the Dell Streak?
I love everything about it (especially now that it's rooted!).
The only drawbacks are the 1.6 version of the OS and that there may be a certain tool-factor when holding that big thing on your face to take a call.
I'm in the US and waiting for the unlocked version to come to this side of the pond the the next month or so.
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How is going to a big tank with Android 1.5 a trade up? No thanks, it's just too big for me, even if it had 2.2. The N1 may not be the absolute bleeding edge hardware design anymore, but it's more than adequate for my purposes, and it's large enough for my purposes.

also guys lets not forget ATT's recent data pricing fiasco.

I dont plan on letting go of my n1 until either some dual core or 1.5ghz processors come out, and i would probably only do it if they had a HW keyboard, otherwise the n1 can/will keep up with all the new phones coming out.

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Anybody going to trade up to the Dell Streak
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I'll stay with my N1 as a phone , but would like to have the Streak as a multimedia toy !

N1 does it for me for atlest another year. I don't need anything else... better battery is all I need now..

pvillasuso said:
I'll stay with my N1 as a phone , but would like to have the Streak as a multimedia toy !
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I agree,
I am so tempted to get a streak.

oaf_tobark said:
I agree,
I am so tempted to get a streak.
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I'd thought about it, but would much prefer a larger tablet device. I'm still waiting for a Snapdragon or Tegra2 powered tablet with a 9-11" screen.

I'll be grabbing one, but won't be leaving my N1 very far away. I suspect I will switch between the two depending on the day. Want something that replaces my smartphone but still pocket portable, and not an addon like a large tablet/iPad, that is very data centric and the Streak seems to fit that perfectly with a 5inch screen. Apparently according to the latest engadget review the Streak gets better battery life than the N1, kind of amazing with the screen difference, maybe cause its 1.6 right now, who knows.
They already have root from Paul at modaco so I would expect that 1.6 will be upgraded real soon, think Dell was already making waves about a 2.x from them within the next month or two as well!
Hopefully its not going to be too much trouble to get one shipped to Canada.

Yeah, same here.
Am staying with my N1 for at LEAST a year.
I managed to hang onto the dying G1 for almost 15 months.
Between learning to root, and flashing all those ROMs, it was always "like a new phone" for me.
And now with the N1, being that it is ALSO a Google released phone, it's like falling in love all over again.

No Streak for me & it's to big. My Nexus One rocks and still feels new

Ill wait for something better and faster more likely a Tegra 2 tablet or smartphone

johnnie93 said:
Ill wait for something better and faster more likely a Tegra 2 tablet or smartphone
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you my friend are looking at the N700 tablet just like I am aren't you?

The streak is way to massive for my pocket, as cool and impressive as this phone is, it is way to large
*thats what she said?

I'd like to say that I'm not going to get rid of my nexus anytime soon. But, being realistic, I know that's probably not the case. I go through phones pretty quickly. Example: I got a iPhone in 02/09, a G1 in 07/09, a CLIQ in 10/09, and a Nexus in 02/10. I won't get the streak at US launch, but I may get it a little later depending on how it develops. What I'd really like to see though is the streak rom ported to the nexus one.

OrganizedFellow said:
Yeah, same here.
Am staying with my N1 for at LEAST a year.
I managed to hang onto the dying G1 for almost 15 months.
Between learning to root, and flashing all those ROMs, it was always "like a new phone" for me.
And now with the N1, being that it is ALSO a Google released phone, it's like falling in love all over again.
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Very true my friend. I had a Magic before i got my Nexus and was always switching between hero roms and CM roms and it always felt new. Same w my Nexus. I'm just looking for the next thing to have and if enough ppl get behind the Streak then I think it'll be a great (not so little toy)

Hesitant to upgrade from g1 due to reputation

So what if any issues have you had with your stock nexus1 ? Has rooting helped or hurt?
I love my G1 but it will be time to upgrade soon. Ive just done a wipe and upgrade to cm 5.0.8 DS and like it so far.
Id love to have a rooted N1 but the horror stories with post as recent as today about wifi,trackball & screen issues make me reconsider. So far I don't know of anything else in the same ballpark that will work on Tmobile.
Thanks for any input
G1 rooted with cyanogen 5.0.8 DS
Xda app

I have not seen any issues with wifi, trackball nor screen. I been the owner of my Nexus One for over 2 months already and I can tell you, This was the best investment ever. Now, with custom ROMs you can improve the functionality of the Phone by a lot. 720p video, faster, wifi n, radio fm maybe? etc...
The N1 has very good hardware, it has things that may be officially unlocked in the near future who knows, though they are already unlocked for custom roms.
Also good to have if you plan to be the base for Android, Since Google will use the N1 as their main device, everything will be optimized for you. (That's my bet, we all saw it with Froyo Demos)

It's fine. 99% of the people wit thing are happy with it, the 1% with problems are understandably vocal. I have two N1's on my account mine (which is rooted) and my girlfriends (which isn't rooted, but has been running the Froyo test ROM for a while). Both work great.

I loved my G1. Probably the phone I loved most when I had it.
The N1 is a better phone in almost every single way ((I was able to change alot of the hardware kb/tb/covers etc on G1)) which is why i loved it.
Nexus One is a leap ahead of every phone prior to April its not even funny. Dont hesitate the N1 >> > and >> over any other phone on Tmobile right now. I love the Mytouch slide but the power ability of N1 are a much better choice.
IMO N1 still has best overall feature set in HW/SW available on the market. Even though that lead has slimmed its still the best you can get right now.

The only problem I have ever heard with the N1 is dust under the screen. But that seems few and far between.
I have had my N1 for about 2 months not and zero issues. I came from an iPhone 3gs (unlocked and jailbroken) and I'll never look back. The N1 is the best phone I have owned. Nothing comes close to it.

they arent problems, just people complaining vocally. the wifi works great, the screen works great, and i've never heard of any trackball issues. go for it you wont regret it.

[IO]ERROR said:
The only problem I have ever heard with the N1 is dust under the screen. But that seems few and far between.
I have had my N1 for about 2 months not and zero issues. I came from an iPhone 3gs (unlocked and jailbroken) and I'll never look back. The N1 is the best phone I have owned. Nothing comes close to it.
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My exact situation, and thoughts. I actually have my 3GS in the cabinet here at my desk because I thought I might want to switch back and forth, but I haven't touched my 3GS since the N1 showed up in the mail.

That's exact what I'd like in an N1 and get a 8" or less touchpad running android later lol
Now I need to decide on a renewal or pay full price
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Ok so after checking the Google page I qualify for an upgrade and with overnight shipping ( which oddly is the same as ground shipping) for $313.38
Does T-mobile charge anything else?
My current plan is the MyFaves 1000 and I guess will be the Even more individual 500 plan. which wont be so bad now that everyone texts rather than calls, and there is wifi calling

issues
The N1 has issues with the voice cutting out frequently (at least, mine does, on Rogers/Fido). Look on the Google support forum to see lots of people complaining about this issue. Maybe T-Mobile units are unaffected?

Haven't had any voice issues at all on Fido in Canada.

Your voice as in people you call cant hear you?

Hesitant to upgrade from g1 due to reputation
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Why? If you don't like it, return it. If you like it and you have a problem with it, HTC will fix or replace it under warranty.
Honestly, the "reports" on this or that regarding Nexus One deficiencies were broadcasted much louder than any other phone because of the hype surrounding the device. In reality, they are the same few and far between issues you'd find with any other phone on the market.
From someone who used to swap phones as frequently as once every month, I have been using the Nexus One since launch day, had problems with the first AT&T version I bought, and had HTC replace it. Not a problem since.

Where do these reputations come from? the dust issue is the only real one ive seen and htc has fixed the glue problem. its a great phone buy it.

midtoad said:
The N1 has issues with the voice cutting out frequently (at least, mine does, on Rogers/Fido). Look on the Google support forum to see lots of people complaining about this issue. Maybe T-Mobile units are unaffected?
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I've never had this issue on Rogers and I've installed practically every ROM available.

Personally, I would wait for a phone that has a better touch surface. I was really looking for a multi-touch keyboard but was really disappointed to find out that the phone would never be able to do that. Other than that I love it.

benricosan said:
Personally, I would wait for a phone that has a better touch surface. I was really looking for a multi-touch keyboard but was really disappointed to find out that the phone would never be able to do that. Other than that I love it.
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1. Swype. I'll never go back.
2. The possibility is there for an app to have it.
Back to topic, I love my N1. I kept it stock for a few months, but I rooted it about a month ago and somehow, the phone is that much better. It's a staple of what I have the freedom to do now. AGPS + nav is phenomenal and comes with the phone. The camera is great. Video can now be shot at 720p (if rooted), and will soon come to Froyo. The hardware is crazy fast, Javascript 2.1 vs 2.2 vs iPad, 40+MFLOPS performance. And, since this is Google's baby, it will be the first to receive updates like Froyo.
The touch surface isn't as bad as people are making it seem, and if you're really up for gaming you can hook a wii-mote to it. Talking on the phone is fine. I occasionally have a weird call, but my friend with an iPhone drops/no-connects calls way more than me.
It has it's quirks. The antenna is located at the bottom of the phone. The reception isn't the best, and T-Mobile doesn't have the strongest signal. I work in a office building/warehouse, and getting 3G in some parts of the first floor (built on a hill, sometimes underground sometimes not) is difficult. A few N1s have had dust under the screen (fixed from what I've heard). Other than that... The phone is excellent.

midtoad said:
The N1 has issues with the voice cutting out frequently (at least, mine does, on Rogers/Fido). Look on the Google support forum to see lots of people complaining about this issue. Maybe T-Mobile units are unaffected?
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I also got the AT&T Phone, but No Issues with voice or anything like that.
The only downside of AT&T phones are.... NO FROYO GOD DAMN IT... well just yet.

pass and wqit
pass on the n1. I own an n1 for a few months now and HATE THE 3G ISSUESthat it has. also miss the physical keyboard... your g1s keyboard is great and I'd toss this nexus for a snapdragon g1 in a heartbeat.
I'd also suggest not renewing your contract so youccan chose any phone.... any carrier.
two cents

That's Funny
Haha, reluctant to go from the G1 to nexus? I guess I kinda understand. I went from my G1 to the Nexus 6 months ago and god damn I haven't thought twice about that decision! Rooting your phone just makes things that much more fun too!

How does everyone like their Hero?

A friend was looking for a new phone. She was looking to switch to Sprint and I looked through their selection and decided on the Samsung Intercept for her. She wanted something easy and functional with a very short learning curve. She got the phone today and I was playing with it and it really seems like a piece of crap. The screen is horrible (I have an EVO so it may also be the fact that I'm comparing it to that), the phone feels cheap and the buttons are very unresponsive.
She has 30 days to return the phone so I was really just looking to get a general idea, from some Hero users, if the hero is a good buy at $150. I don't know a lot about it's capabilities, I believe that I just read that it was recently updated to 2.1. I was looking around and there seems to be a good root method and some quality roms available including CM6 so I know I can expand it's functionality. I'd appreciate just some general comments on the phone and any issues anyone has had with it, thanks.

Does she like physical keyboards? Then the epic might be worth checking out?
If not, I'm satisfied with my hero, its just a little underpowered but with cm6 and oc its very usable.
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eagles16 said:
Does she like physical keyboards? Then the epic might be worth checking out?
If not, I'm satisfied with my hero, its just a little underpowered but with cm6 and oc its very usable.
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I was thinking that it was a bit underpowered. It's been out for a bit as well which is why I suggested the newer Intercept. The physical keyboard thing was my suggestion to make texting easier. I don't have an issue with typing on my screen with my EVO but that's because the screen is huge. I thought about the Epic but I really think it's way too much phone for her. She has 30 days from yesterday and the Epic is supposed to be released on the 20th so I may suggest that if she's unhappy with this one.

I just bought this Hero used after returning my Evo. $125 in near prefect condition. I'm very happy with it. I used to swear by physical keyboards until I got used to Swype, now its all I use. So many custom roms and things to chose from to do to my phone.
You're milage may vary.
Swyped from my HTC Hero via XDA App.

Zardos66 said:
I just bought this Hero used after returning my Evo. $125 in near prefect condition. I'm very happy with it. I used to swear by physical keyboards until I got used to Swype, now its all I use. So many custom roms and things to chose from to do to my phone.
You're milage may vary.
Swyped from my HTC Hero via XDA App.
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I hate to ask a stupid question but you returned an Evo and go the Hero in it's place?
I like the Hero as it's what I bought (when they were new) but I think I'd have stuck with the Evo. Am I missing something?

I say that the evo Is really Good. The hero is a great phone and with the right mods its even Better .. can't go wrong with either One....
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I actually love my Hero right now, but would LOVE to own an EVO right now
But, I was pretty amazed to see that the Hero CDMA used to be just $49.99 or something from Sprint, and NOW, it's $149.99! Crazy huh?!? Couldn't believe my eyes when I saw that crap. Now that they probably got rid of they're massive stock pile they had when it first came out, ppl are probably still wanting to get it. Especially since the EVO is sold out every-freakin'-where.

If she is a new customer Radio Shack has them for 69.99, but it was 49.99 at my local store.
Crazy thing is they want $529 for the Hero unactivated and only $499 for the Evo unactivated
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I wouldn't mind getting an Evo, but in a couple more months we should have either 2Ghz processors and/or dual-core processors which will blow away the Evo. Once Camera preview and GPS is completely working in CM6 the Hero will be 10X better than it was. I am happy with my Hero.

unCoRrUpTeD said:
If she is a new customer Radio Shack has them for 69.99, but it was 49.99 at my local store.
Crazy thing is they want $529 for the Hero unactivated and only $499 for the Evo unactivated
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I wouldn't mind getting an Evo, but in a couple more months we should have either 2Ghz processors and/or dual-core processors which will blow away the Evo. Once Camera preview and GPS is completely working in CM6 the Hero will be 10X better than it was. I am happy with my Hero.
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That RS link doesn't work but that's the same she paid for the Intercept at RS. If that's true I might definitely tell her to switch to the Hero. She was looking for advice on a new phone and she said simple, but me being me, I couldn't bring myself to recommend any of Sprints lower end phones. Consequently I've become the buffer, easing her into learning how to use Android (Not really all that difficult but she couldn't figure out how to use Google, lol) Thanks for the heads up, I'll look into it.
On another note: I have an EVO. I was really looking forward to it's release and I can honestly say that it's exceeded all my expectations. My last phone was a Touch Diamond so this was a major upgrade. I've always liked the Hero, thanks for the responses.

I had an intercept.. found that the touch buttons at the bottom of the screen didn't work consistently...
The Hero seems to work pretty well thus far...

i like everything but
call delay
com.htc.bg force closes
on 2.1 official, rooted
other than that, great

i loved my hero and had cm6, it was perfect. Then i got my EVO it makes my hero feel like it belongs in the 90s.

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i loved my hero and had cm6, it was perfect. Then i got my EVO it makes my hero feel like it belongs in the 90s.
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one more month before i can upgrade!
i do love my hero as i loved my g1. loving more that i'm doing away with an old sprint leak rom and onto something custom.

Had a moment, no pun, now a hero and its nice and small without lockups. I'm quite happy until I can get my hands on an evo or an epic...do I really need a hard keyboard?
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raiderep said:
Had a moment, no pun, now a hero and its nice and small without lockups. I'm quite happy until I can get my hands on an evo or an epic...do I really need a hard keyboard?
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when i switched from my g1 to hero, my hands desperately craved the feeling of a keyboard. over time i got used to soft keyboard especially after swype. I don't think a hardware kb is necessary unless you plan on running EMU's.

i think the HERO is amazing. compared to all the other phones i have owned this blows them all out the water. One amazing thing i like about it is the 5mp camera. there is no negative side to this phone for me.

raiderep said:
Had a moment, no pun, now a hero and its nice and small without lockups. I'm quite happy until I can get my hands on an evo or an epic...do I really need a hard keyboard?
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I have fat thumbs and I have no issues at all with the evo's keyboard. I thought I might be better off with a hardware keyboard and was disappointed theat the evo didn't have one. Since I got it though, I've had no problems with it and I've had it since launch day. The screen is so big that it's much easier to use than most phones physical keyboard.

Upgrading to Android phones on SERO! (+$10/month)

Coming October 1st, Sprint is opening up its SERO exclusivity to allow for Android phone upgrades.
The cost for upgrading to a non-4g phone is an additional $10 per month.
The cost for upgrading to a 4g phone is an additional $20 per month ($10 for a "non-WM" phone and $10 for the 4g tax just like the EVO and upcoming Epic).
I just called up Sprint and verified it through the CSR person I spoke to. She said that this information has been given out company-wide recently so everyone should know about it.
Here are some links to check for discussions about this (pulled from SlickDeals).
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1660402-On-October-1st-Android-will-be-available-for-SERO!!!
http://www.sprintusers.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=120
Even though I'm afraid that this news is going to scavenge users from our community, I think a lot of people are going to be excited about this. Especially since dzo has said that he's going to be moving on from a Vogue in the near future. *sigh*
I know I'm definitely looking forward to it since I'm dreading the day dzo moves on. Haha!
What about you guys?
I didn't see this in any of the threads, so excuse me if I missed it...

I don't think there was a dedicated thread, but this was discussed a bit in the Wildfire Rom thread.
Anyway, I am definitely looking forward to it. While Android (2.2) is running pretty great on my Vogue, it would be even better to have a native phone with an accelerometer and possibly a slide-out keyboard (I'm unsure if I will get a used Hero or something else at this point.)
I am pretty stingy though, so while I think I could do another $10, I'm not sure about the $20 It would be hard for me to justify increasing my cell phone bill by 66%!

Dassin4 said:
I am pretty stingy though, so while I think I could do another $10, I'm not sure about the $20 It would be hard for me to justify increasing my cell phone bill by 66%!
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Agreed! Haha!

yea, I'm thinking the same thing. And with Sprint's minimal non-4g Android offerings, how many people won't end up with +$20/month

I'll most likely be getting a non 4g one anyway, since no matter what I get, I'll be disassembling and removing the camera because of the rules where I work. I'd much rather do that to a used, older, cheaper phone than a brand new expensive one

Dzo & Myn
Did dzo say what phone he is getting?
What did Myn get?

Dzo & Myn
Did dzo say what phone he is getting?
What did Myn get?

I'm also debating on where I'm going with this. I've used the moment and am not too keen on its keyboard. Also don't really care for the builds over on sdx. Haven't really looked at any of the Hero builds nor used the hero. Really looking closely at the 4g phones as I'd kinda like having a phone that natively ran 2.2 and would be getting gingerbread natively as well (most likely).

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Did dzo say what phone he is getting?
What did Myn get?
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dzo hasn't decided. myn went to the evo i think.

That aren;t really any phones that are coming out that appeal to me. The EVO is too large. One of the best things about the Vogue is that it's tiny. The Epic was the runner up but I don't see any need for a slide out keyboard with Swype installed, and for an extra $20/month I don't know that it will be worth it.
I may hold onto my Vogue until Christmas time to see what else comes out.

Completely official
http://www.mydollarplan.com/sprint-sero-premium-upgrade-coming-soon/

tablo said:
That aren;t really any phones that are coming out that appeal to me. The EVO is too large. One of the best things about the Vogue is that it's tiny. The Epic was the runner up but I don't see any need for a slide out keyboard with Swype installed, and for an extra $20/month I don't know that it will be worth it.
I may hold onto my Vogue until Christmas time to see what else comes out.
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Yea, I wish Sprint had some better Android phones. The Incredible is basically what I'd like. It has all the rights specs without the 4g tax on it.

anyone making the jump? if so, what phone/plan?

done! game over!

congratssssss

[Q] Is it worth getting a G1??

Hey all,
I'm wanting to get another Android phone as I got rid of my HTC Wildfire. I'm thinking about getting the G1 as its cheap and seems as though it can perform well.
I'm looking at buying one that is locked to T-Mobile and has the newest carrier updates on. My question is can it be unlocked? and does Cyanogen mod perform well?
Thanks!

It would be worth having one now, but getting one from fresh... that would depend on how cheap you can get one and if you think you need a hard-QWERTY. The G1 is quite old... and you may be more content with adding more funds for a G2.

I recently bought a G1 for cheap, and it is great currently have it running gingerbread which works really quite well, a lot more so then i thought cyanogenmon 6 did.
I also believe that they can be unlocked quite easily as well

Thanks for the info

I'm looking at a G1 also, coming from a CDMA Moment with 2.2.2 and looking to switch to GSM. The Moment has a faster processor(?) but is not a very good at some things, like being a phone. Is the G1 a good PHONE? I can get a good ROM for the things I want but does the phone part work well?

G1 okay phone, easy to mod. if you like tinkering.
G1 is an okay phone. My partner at work uses a Blackberry, he can't hear the person at the other end without an ear piece, I don't have that issue on my G1.
I do NOT love my G1, it's bulky/heavy and I don't feel the build quality is as good as some of the other phones. The Speaker is on the back of the phone, opposite from the display - seriously who does that? Samsung for example always puts the speaker above the main screen.
The Keyboard has very small keys but it IS a 5 row keyboard, you can get good with some practice, but some of the newer phones, ex: T-Mobile Sidekick 4G has a keyboard/CPU/display that I almost can't believe how good it is, however they have the dumbest overlay I've ever seen, haha, can't have it all I guess.
The G1 is reliable, it's just not very pretty, if it's cheap, it's a deal.

Hi,
I am contemplating putting my G1 up for sale.
It is the one in my Signature.
Lemme know.
Heeter

If you don't play big games, g1 is enough, however, you cannot buy a new one now.
If I were you, I will buy another new phone.

I suggest a HTC Wildfire at least :/ g1 is maybe just too slow even for normal use if your gonna even get apps :'(

Honestly, no. Get a higher end device and you will be much happier.. I just got a HD2 and it is a huge improvement over the G1, and very worth investing in.
The G1 can't run many of the apps on market because it is too slow, including live wallpapers, angry birds rio, etc..

It depends on how much you can get if for. I got mine for US$50 used a few weeks a go. It's really slow and low on capacity but it's a great entry phone to Android for me. Learned a lot with it. It works great as a phone. And the best part is, if I brick it, I will not feel bad. Just pull the SIM and move to the next cheap phone I can find.
Just saw someone selling one for $30 on craigslist. I would definitely get that one if I haven't got this one.

I completely agree with the above statement ^^

I would love to get an G1 for a nice 2nd/back up phone since my bb 8900 curve have self rebooting problems
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