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Thinking about buying the G1

Ive been considering getting an android phone for quite a while so im thinking of the g1 becuase it is cheap and it has a keyboard, what are your guys thoughts, i have a fuze right now.

Don't buy a g1. I've had this phone since november 2008 and I can't wait to get rid of it. You should spend the money and get a better android phone, such as the droid, nexus, or wait for the htc desire. You will definitely have a better android experience with one of these phones. Its just to much hacking you have to do to make a G1 good.

gamikzone said:
Ive been considering getting an android phone for quite a while so im thinking of the g1 becuase it is cheap and it has a keyboard, what are your guys thoughts, i have a fuze right now.
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You'll feel sorry when you buy it....Wait for a "newer" phone from this decade to come out with a keyboard instead..

Ace42 said:
You'll feel sorry when you buy it....Wait for a "newer" phone from this decade to come out with a keyboard instead..
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And not made by Motorola

JAguirre1231 said:
And not made by Motorola
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well i was thinking of getting the g1 because it is cheap and u can put roms on it, but i might get the moto cliq also cuz its cheap but u cant put roms on it, either way im gonna use 1 of these phones for a few months till i get a better android mobile device.

gamikzone said:
well i was thinking of getting the g1 because it is cheap and u can put roms on it, but i might get the moto cliq also cuz its cheap but u cant put roms on it, either way im gonna use 1 of these phones for a few months till i get a better android mobile device.
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Why not save money... :|

gamikzone said:
but i might get the moto cliq also cuz its cheap but u cant put roms on it, either way im gonna use 1 of these phones for a few months till i get a better android mobile device.
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Yeah I would stay away from the Cliq. There are roms for it, but there isn't as much development for it as there is for the G1. You'll find it to be quite boring and it's stuck on 1.5. If it's a choice between the two, get the G1.

Lol... Its pretty funny how everyone is saying the G1 is bad and don't buy it. Give it a month, there will be something then the N1 and everyone's going to say, "Don't buy the N1 its such garbage." G1 is a good phone. It won't take you to the moon, but it's not bad. =] I personally have the myTouch. I honestly wish I would have got G1 for keyboard, though. That's another reason I hate the N1... Yea, it's sexy... but touch screen keyboards have proved to be nothing but trouble for me. Besides misclicking (which you get better at) they usually lag. Sometimes slightly - sometimes horribly. They're NEVER as fast as a physical keyboard, though. They also prove to be trouble for games or things that use a keyboard. Most have full touch screen support, but I personally like to use a keyboard to play a game if it's an option. That's just my opinion.

I bought one off eBay for under $200 and I love it. I don't see how any other phone is better than it right now. It was a five row keyboard, trackball, and with all the custom roms available, it fits every niche that I want.

ranhdrcewp said:
I bought one off eBay for under $200 and I love it. I don't see how any other phone is better than it right now. It was a five row keyboard, trackball, and with all the custom roms available, it fits every niche that I want.
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http://conversations.nokia.com/2009/12/09/nokia-6700-classic-gold-edition-looms-into-view/
Beat THAT!

HTC DREAM (people... please call it what it actually IS and not what it has been DE-branded to...) is a very flexible device. Perfectly capable of running the latest builds of android.
The problem that some people are having is that the manufacturer (HTC) has decided to stop supporting it. This is no different than what will happen with the GN1 or other android phones made by HTC.
And the main thing to keep in mind is that this is a PHONE, not a supercomputer. Does it REALLY NEED to be the latest super-duper over powered crazy thing? NO. It really doesn't.
DREAM is very well known, and hacked up the wahzoo. There is virtually nothing that you can't make it do. Right down to being jtag-able.
Fact is simple; if you want maximum flexibility in your phone (more important than peak performance), DREAM is the ticket.

Cool guys, thx for the advice i defintley think i am going to purchase 1 off ebay, but im thinking if i should get the brown/black or the white, i saw the white can get a few nicks on in but it looks nice, what do u guys have?

gamikzone said:
Cool guys, thx for the advice i defintley think i am going to purchase 1 off ebay, but im thinking if i should get the brown/black or the white, i saw the white can get a few nicks on in but it looks nice, what do u guys have?
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ADP1: dark grey with cool graphics.
http://android.brightstarcorp.com/index_adp1.htm

ranhdrcewp said:
I bought one off eBay for under $200 and I love it. I don't see how any other phone is better than it right now. It was a five row keyboard, trackball, and with all the custom roms available, it fits every niche that I want.
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i know its a gr8 phone!

It's a fair buy
gamikzone said:
Ive been considering getting an android phone for quite a while so im thinking of the g1 becuase it is cheap and it has a keyboard, what are your guys thoughts, i have a fuze right now.
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I would say overall that I am very happy with this phone.
Especially with the hacks and mods that I've done to it.
Its fast, stable and looks great.
I am more than happy with this phone, (Especially since I traded a Sidekick LX for it) I haven't been this happy with a phone in a while.
I used to have the HTC Excalibur and coming from Windows Mobile to Android is phenomenal, everything is so simple once you learn and get the hang of it.
So if you have the cash and you are curious just buy it and learn the basics!
Well worth it!

What attracted to me about this phone is that it is able to use the keyboard( hard keyboard is obviously easier to use) to type and gaming. Moreover, the phone is able to be modded and a variety of ROMs that might suit your style to choose from.

I would actually want to buy a second HTC Dream if I could. Seriously, if you really want to utilise your PDA phone properly, the Dream can do it all for you. However, if you really want high end gaming and more sensitive touch screen & proximity sensors to show off, then it's better to get the latest phone. I find that as it is, I am utilising only 50% of what the Dream is capable of. So I have been using it since last year and will continue on until I cannot do certain things that are important for work. Just my 2cents.

Coming from all different kinds of OS's, Sony, WM for many years, and finally the awesome Android OS.
Its hard to compete against it. I like the idea of a quality physical keyboard and screen. There is so much development and quality Rom releases here for our phone.
Devs know this and that is why they stay and keep doing what they do so well for all of us. Themers as well deserve much respect for their hard work and commitment.
Bottom Line: Buy a G1, you'll be hard pressed to find a better android phone at this time.

Next Android Port . . . where to from here?

born of curiosity. thinking about my next windows cdma phone to use with my sprint SERO account, and of course it has to run android. right now, the options are few. I like small form factor, so the obvious next step would be the htc diamond - small, getting cheaper, and android port in full swing. a neat little upgrade to the vogue, the biggest downside is the screen size; but hey, we're used to it. on the up, it's got wifi, accelerometer.
or there is the much more expensive TP2 and it's port. big screen and all the goodies, but big footprint that ain't fitting in your pocket easily (not to mention the big price).
of course, all ports seem to build off dzo's work, but it does not seem that nand is up and running on at least these two devices.
wondering where the devs will go next, if anywhere? dzo, mssmison, vilrod, and others, what's your next everyday device; will it be an android port device or a true android device?
if you choose "other win mo android port" please list it below.

Well I went from the Vogue to a Sprint Hero running a completely functional 2.1 build from the HTC Legend on a 2.6.29 kernel but....I'm keeping an eye out on a cheap TP2 to hack around on for fun. It's driving me crazy having everything working

I've had a Vogue for almost 2 years and as soon as an HTC phone hits Verizon with the Snapdragon CPU and a nice 800*480 screen I will be putting the Vogue in the drawer for good.

I ditched the vogue and sero yesterday and added myself to my original family plan with verizon that I still have 4 other people on. It turns out with an employee discount data was $24 and it was 9.99 to add myself so 35 compared to my 30 sero and I get an android phone. But I jumped the gun and ordered the eris. After reading last night and realizing how soon the snapdragon cpu devices (google nexus one and htc incredible) were arriving within the next couple of days, I called this morning and canceled my order. I will wait until they come out. btw I am on Sero 500 and have been out of contract since december.

I'm not a dev but here's my 2 cents I've had my Vogue since 2007... since it first came out. I've been out of contract since like May praying for the Palm Pre, the HTC Hero, and so on. For me, the Diamond is just a very small incremental upgrade, unless it was like $50 bucks, it would not be worth it to me. What's keeping me from the TP2 is the price... $300 is ridiculous! Right now our Vogue's are pretty damn good, so I'm gonna hang out here until A) a better phone is available on SERO B) TP2 price falls below $200. Realistically, I don't really expect either of these things to happen anytime soon..not to mention their ports still being significantly far behind our lovely Vogue port. so... *hugs Vogue* on a side note, the bounty for TP2 port is over 3 grand... damn! lol

Not a vogue user but i've had a tilt since it was introduced to at&t I did upgrade when it was time to an iPhone 3gs but quickly gave that to my wife. Now after 3 or so years AT&T is finally bringing android to their network. With the backflip already introduced and a Nexus one with AT&T 3g capabilities on the market things are starting to look good. I am waiting for the rumored desire to hit my carrier so I can decide between it or the nexus one. I was on the prowl for a newer phone that had an android port working on AT&T with a reasonable price but thats like finding a needle in a haystack. Now I only have to wait a few months for a new one it should be out about the time my wife gets to upgrade her service so I'll just rob her then

The only thing that I am looking for as far as other devices being upgradeable to Android is actually my old- trusty BA (which in fact, was the first device sporting Android that was spotted in the "wild"). There are a few things for the BA working off HaRet (Qtopia and a few other Linux builds), but I would like to get someone to do something as far as completely porting Android to it (just a few drivers to be re-written, I guess)

I'm on SERO, so I'm not giving up $30/mo to get a real Android phone.
I wish Sprint would get the Diamond2/Imagio. I'd help port Android to that. For now, I'll stick with the Vogue. My 2 years isn't up until June.
I don't like the Touch Pro2 because it's a brick. The Diamond / Touch Pro have hideous battery life. I think they must've made a big mistake with that phone that they fixed with the Touch Pro2, because I've heard it sucks down battery like no other (not the Android port, but WinMobile). I don't think even Android would help to fix it, I feel it's a hardware problem.
I just might have to break down and ditch SERO. With the 25% discounts on Sprint, and possibly get a retention $10 credit for ditching SERO, I could get it close...
I'd wait for the Hero2 or the Supersonic. Probably the Supersonic, since the Hero2 isn't snapdragon (though OLED would be nice).

jnadke said:
I'm on SERO, so I'm not giving up $30/mo to get a real Android phone.
I wish Sprint would get the Diamond2/Imagio. I'd help port Android to that. For now, I'll stick with the Vogue. My 2 years isn't up until June.
I don't like the Touch Pro2 because it's a brick. The Diamond / Touch Pro have hideous battery life. I think they must've made a big mistake with that phone that they fixed with the Touch Pro2, because I've heard it sucks down battery like no other (not the Android port, but WinMobile). I don't think even Android would help to fix it, I feel it's a hardware problem.
I just might have to break down and ditch SERO. With the 25% discounts on Sprint, and possibly get a retention $10 credit for ditching SERO, I could get it close...
I'd wait for the Hero2 or the Supersonic. Probably the Supersonic, since the Hero2 isn't snapdragon (though OLED would be nice).
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I'm on the same boat with you. I won't ditch SERO. I'm waiting for a better touchscreen phone for SERO that I can port Android.

x3. I'll never give up SERO.
The Diamond has made some great progress in the last couple of weeks. Still no GPS or Camera support though . I am having fun with it though. Despite the screen size being the same as our vogues the resolution is much nicer. 210 pixel density is kinda nice.
When's the ETA for the Nexus One on Sprint? Not like it will work on SERO though

can not wait for the htc incredible to hit verizon!
snapdragon cpu!

"i'm done with the ports, it's a real android device for me"
I think last poll option can be read negatively.
But fact of the matter is that because FOLKS (we know who all ) have done so tremendous job in porting Vogue that people have converted from Windows Mobile to Android!
So even though, I will switch from Vogue to other full blown Android device, Vogue will be my playground.
Otherwise, where else can you get latest OS (2.1) on a four-year old device!
Thanks guys from making my phone usable!

After my vogue took a crap, I ordered an Eris from eBay, I figured that would be the ideal time to upgrade. Im going to root it tomorrow and begin porting the Legend rom to it. I miss working on the vogue ports, and like Zenulator said, it is wierd actually having every thing working .

I'm hanging tight as it seems that the competition between wireless carriers is accelerating a lot within the last year. With the nexus going to all carriers and the iphone to supposedly follow, it will be interesting to see where things go in terms of pricing. Also throw in 4g coming to sprint in the next quarter (although I read over at their user forum that the 4g has been running into bandwidth problems in the test cities). I forsee 3g "everything" pricing leveling out just under $50 as 4g comes into mainstream.
In short, if I can get a 1ghz+ native android device in the next year on a ~$40 plan, I'll probably bail ship. Otherwise, I'm sticking to Sero and snickering at my iphone friends as I tell them I pay 27.50 a month for my "everything" plan.

I am waiting for the Nexus on VZW. The Legend would be nice but I'd rather have twice the RAM over Sense UI which seems to be the rumor going around about the Legend.
I still can't believe I've had the Vogue for 2 yrs. I've never had a phone for 12 months nevermind 24. That's a credit to the devs here who have extended the life of my phone by more than twice. Thanks.
I will say this, as long as there is still developing for the Vogue I will keep trying it. As others have said, it's weird when everything works. I use a MyTouch 3G at work and its just not as fun or as cool as my Vogue.

hexto said:
I am waiting for the Nexus on VZW. The Legend would be nice but I'd rather have twice the RAM over Sense UI which seems to be the rumor going around about the Legend.
I still can't believe I've had the Vogue for 2 yrs. I've never had a phone for 12 months nevermind 24. That's a credit to the devs here who have extended the life of my phone by more than twice. Thanks.
I will say this, as long as there is still developing for the Vogue I will keep trying it. As others have said, it's weird when everything works. I use a MyTouch 3G at work and its just not as fun or as cool as my Vogue.
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I couldn't agree more, I'm looking forward to the nexus on vzw as its the first phone I see worth giving up the vogue for.
I'm on a 1 year business contract so I used to get a new phone every 10-12 months 'til I got the vogue and discovered this forum, going on 2 years with my vogue! I think I see the end coming soon though..

yeah, jdnake and myn, I agree about not giving up SERO. i was tempted for a little bit, but couldn't bring myself to do it. there is a gap in the windows mobile phones on sprint right now, you're right the TP2 is an absolute brick; but if nothing else comes through the pipeline, as much as I love sleek phones if I'm going to buy something it is definitely going to have more screen real estate than the vogue . . . i'm praying for a diamond 2 to land in the lineup. I'll keep my vogue android phone for a while yet, though, waiting, waiting on something nicer for SERO. ok, I'm rambling. need sleep.

For me it's going to be g1 -> magic -> snapdragon based.
That or I'll keep the vogue forever..
lol

I left the Vogue a couple of months back and got the Eris. It's doing it's job for now, but when that Nexus hits big red, I'm going to be tempted...

jnadke said:
I'm on SERO, so I'm not giving up $30/mo to get a real Android phone.
I wish Sprint would get the Diamond2/Imagio. I'd help port Android to that. For now, I'll stick with the Vogue. My 2 years isn't up until June.
I don't like the Touch Pro2 because it's a brick. The Diamond / Touch Pro have hideous battery life. I think they must've made a big mistake with that phone that they fixed with the Touch Pro2, because I've heard it sucks down battery like no other (not the Android port, but WinMobile). I don't think even Android would help to fix it, I feel it's a hardware problem.
I just might have to break down and ditch SERO. With the 25% discounts on Sprint, and possibly get a retention $10 credit for ditching SERO, I could get it close...
I'd wait for the Hero2 or the Supersonic. Probably the Supersonic, since the Hero2 isn't snapdragon (though OLED would be nice).
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I had a Touch Pro when I was with AT&T and the battery life is mostly a software issue. When I was running a custom 6.5/Sense ROM the battery life was amazing for a multitasking smartphone and much better than the Moment I have now

Hesitant to upgrade from g1 due to reputation

So what if any issues have you had with your stock nexus1 ? Has rooting helped or hurt?
I love my G1 but it will be time to upgrade soon. Ive just done a wipe and upgrade to cm 5.0.8 DS and like it so far.
Id love to have a rooted N1 but the horror stories with post as recent as today about wifi,trackball & screen issues make me reconsider. So far I don't know of anything else in the same ballpark that will work on Tmobile.
Thanks for any input
G1 rooted with cyanogen 5.0.8 DS
Xda app

I have not seen any issues with wifi, trackball nor screen. I been the owner of my Nexus One for over 2 months already and I can tell you, This was the best investment ever. Now, with custom ROMs you can improve the functionality of the Phone by a lot. 720p video, faster, wifi n, radio fm maybe? etc...
The N1 has very good hardware, it has things that may be officially unlocked in the near future who knows, though they are already unlocked for custom roms.
Also good to have if you plan to be the base for Android, Since Google will use the N1 as their main device, everything will be optimized for you. (That's my bet, we all saw it with Froyo Demos)

It's fine. 99% of the people wit thing are happy with it, the 1% with problems are understandably vocal. I have two N1's on my account mine (which is rooted) and my girlfriends (which isn't rooted, but has been running the Froyo test ROM for a while). Both work great.

I loved my G1. Probably the phone I loved most when I had it.
The N1 is a better phone in almost every single way ((I was able to change alot of the hardware kb/tb/covers etc on G1)) which is why i loved it.
Nexus One is a leap ahead of every phone prior to April its not even funny. Dont hesitate the N1 >> > and >> over any other phone on Tmobile right now. I love the Mytouch slide but the power ability of N1 are a much better choice.
IMO N1 still has best overall feature set in HW/SW available on the market. Even though that lead has slimmed its still the best you can get right now.

The only problem I have ever heard with the N1 is dust under the screen. But that seems few and far between.
I have had my N1 for about 2 months not and zero issues. I came from an iPhone 3gs (unlocked and jailbroken) and I'll never look back. The N1 is the best phone I have owned. Nothing comes close to it.

they arent problems, just people complaining vocally. the wifi works great, the screen works great, and i've never heard of any trackball issues. go for it you wont regret it.

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The only problem I have ever heard with the N1 is dust under the screen. But that seems few and far between.
I have had my N1 for about 2 months not and zero issues. I came from an iPhone 3gs (unlocked and jailbroken) and I'll never look back. The N1 is the best phone I have owned. Nothing comes close to it.
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My exact situation, and thoughts. I actually have my 3GS in the cabinet here at my desk because I thought I might want to switch back and forth, but I haven't touched my 3GS since the N1 showed up in the mail.

That's exact what I'd like in an N1 and get a 8" or less touchpad running android later lol
Now I need to decide on a renewal or pay full price
Sent from my HTC Dream using XDA App

Ok so after checking the Google page I qualify for an upgrade and with overnight shipping ( which oddly is the same as ground shipping) for $313.38
Does T-mobile charge anything else?
My current plan is the MyFaves 1000 and I guess will be the Even more individual 500 plan. which wont be so bad now that everyone texts rather than calls, and there is wifi calling

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The N1 has issues with the voice cutting out frequently (at least, mine does, on Rogers/Fido). Look on the Google support forum to see lots of people complaining about this issue. Maybe T-Mobile units are unaffected?

Haven't had any voice issues at all on Fido in Canada.

Your voice as in people you call cant hear you?

Hesitant to upgrade from g1 due to reputation
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Why? If you don't like it, return it. If you like it and you have a problem with it, HTC will fix or replace it under warranty.
Honestly, the "reports" on this or that regarding Nexus One deficiencies were broadcasted much louder than any other phone because of the hype surrounding the device. In reality, they are the same few and far between issues you'd find with any other phone on the market.
From someone who used to swap phones as frequently as once every month, I have been using the Nexus One since launch day, had problems with the first AT&T version I bought, and had HTC replace it. Not a problem since.

Where do these reputations come from? the dust issue is the only real one ive seen and htc has fixed the glue problem. its a great phone buy it.

midtoad said:
The N1 has issues with the voice cutting out frequently (at least, mine does, on Rogers/Fido). Look on the Google support forum to see lots of people complaining about this issue. Maybe T-Mobile units are unaffected?
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I've never had this issue on Rogers and I've installed practically every ROM available.

Personally, I would wait for a phone that has a better touch surface. I was really looking for a multi-touch keyboard but was really disappointed to find out that the phone would never be able to do that. Other than that I love it.

benricosan said:
Personally, I would wait for a phone that has a better touch surface. I was really looking for a multi-touch keyboard but was really disappointed to find out that the phone would never be able to do that. Other than that I love it.
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1. Swype. I'll never go back.
2. The possibility is there for an app to have it.
Back to topic, I love my N1. I kept it stock for a few months, but I rooted it about a month ago and somehow, the phone is that much better. It's a staple of what I have the freedom to do now. AGPS + nav is phenomenal and comes with the phone. The camera is great. Video can now be shot at 720p (if rooted), and will soon come to Froyo. The hardware is crazy fast, Javascript 2.1 vs 2.2 vs iPad, 40+MFLOPS performance. And, since this is Google's baby, it will be the first to receive updates like Froyo.
The touch surface isn't as bad as people are making it seem, and if you're really up for gaming you can hook a wii-mote to it. Talking on the phone is fine. I occasionally have a weird call, but my friend with an iPhone drops/no-connects calls way more than me.
It has it's quirks. The antenna is located at the bottom of the phone. The reception isn't the best, and T-Mobile doesn't have the strongest signal. I work in a office building/warehouse, and getting 3G in some parts of the first floor (built on a hill, sometimes underground sometimes not) is difficult. A few N1s have had dust under the screen (fixed from what I've heard). Other than that... The phone is excellent.

midtoad said:
The N1 has issues with the voice cutting out frequently (at least, mine does, on Rogers/Fido). Look on the Google support forum to see lots of people complaining about this issue. Maybe T-Mobile units are unaffected?
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I also got the AT&T Phone, but No Issues with voice or anything like that.
The only downside of AT&T phones are.... NO FROYO GOD DAMN IT... well just yet.

pass and wqit
pass on the n1. I own an n1 for a few months now and HATE THE 3G ISSUESthat it has. also miss the physical keyboard... your g1s keyboard is great and I'd toss this nexus for a snapdragon g1 in a heartbeat.
I'd also suggest not renewing your contract so youccan chose any phone.... any carrier.
two cents

That's Funny
Haha, reluctant to go from the G1 to nexus? I guess I kinda understand. I went from my G1 to the Nexus 6 months ago and god damn I haven't thought twice about that decision! Rooting your phone just makes things that much more fun too!

Google confirms no Nexus Two=Higher Resale Price for Nexus One?

Sadly, Google CEO Eric Schmidt has confirmed that there wont be a Nexus Two:
http://androinica.com/2010/07/05/go...oming-that-means-a-nexus-two-is-coming-right/
Im actually really disappointed, as I planned on selling my Nexus One to upgrade to the Nexus Two. Then it made me wonder....I wonder now if the resale price on the Nexus One will go higher, as this is the only phone Google had directly manufactured for them?
I managed to get 120 euros for my old G1 when I sold it, and it was a year old (I babied it and kept it in FLAWLESS condition). I paid 370 Euros for my Nexus One (contract free) from someone who had purchased it from Google directly and only had it for a week. I wonder now if when January comes around, if I can get more for it now?
Would you sell your Nexus One later this year if you knew you could get more for it than what you paid? And if you could, do you think its worth it to sell it or hold onto it? Do you think Nexus Ones that came directly from Google vs a carrier will be worth more?
Thoughts?
Discuss

I paid $199 for my AT&T 3G Band Nexus One & Dock... I'm pretty sure I could get back what I paid now, even if they do make a N2

They should release a Nexus 2 but as a limited edition phone...just make like 200K of the handsets...high quality...make a flagship Android phone...it'd go great with the dev and geek community. A Nexus every year.

AbsoluteDesignz said:
They should release a Nexus 2 but as a limited edition phone...just make like 200K of the handsets...high quality...make a flagship Android phone...it'd go great with the dev and geek community. A Nexus every year.
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Brilliant idea! I really feel that Google needs to put out their own phone regularly, as a high Android powered device running stock Android is in my eyes badly needed. The thing is, I dont think Google is pulling our chains on this. I really dont think another phone will come directly in the same form that the Nexus One did.
Im sure alot of people including myself would scoop up 200,000 of these handsets in a relatively short amount of time.
I personally think thats a great idea, as I love the fact that I dont walk around seeing everyone and their mother having my phone

Then what will be the next phone to receive updates without carrier consent? Or the next developer phone entirely? Or the next phone with fastboot OEM unlock? There may not be a Nexus two, but there needs to be a equivalent.

My nexus is going in my permanent collection I think. It's too nice of a phone to sell when I'm done with it. Maybe I'll change my mind later, but It's almost like a collectors phone in a way.

Dai323 said:
Brilliant idea! I really feel that Google needs to put out their own phone regularly, as a high Android powered device running stock Android is in my eyes badly needed. The thing is, I dont think Google is pulling our chains on this. I really dont think another phone will come directly in the same form that the Nexus One did.
Im sure alot of people including myself would scoop up 200,000 of these handsets in a relatively short amount of time.
I personally think thats a great idea, as I love the fact that I dont walk around seeing everyone and their mother having my phone
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yep...and then it's exclusive status will cause it to sell out faster...maybe the year after they can up it to 500K and soon the Nexus brand will be widely known as quality and exclusivity..."oh you have an iPhone 6? well **BAM** I have a Nexus 3, you were saying?"

You guys are forgetting that Google has never really been about content CREATION. The nexus was some kind of weird test for them and their production/marketing teams. They're much happier (as an organization) to either be a link from others' created content or to provide backend support for others. They don't want to be in the production, direct selling, QA, and support business. This is why you'll probably never see another google phone.

very disappointing, but a pretty cool way of backing off. not like apple where they give you the 3G then the 3GS, hate their upgrades.
i dunno what i'm supposed to get after the N1 grows old someday.
planning on getting another one before the online store closes.

jjss75 said:
very disappointing, but a pretty cool way of backing off. not like apple where they give you the 3G then the 3GS, hate their upgrades.
i dunno what i'm supposed to get after the N1 grows old someday.
planning on getting another one before the online store closes.
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lol, my exact thoughts...I have NO idea what my next phone is gonna be now :-(

they could have at least made a few improvement and release Nexus 2.
all i want is SAMOLED, FM-tuner......and.....thats it i guess.

kolyan said:
they could have at least made a few improvement and release Nexus 2.
all i want is SAMOLED, FM-tuner......and.....thats it i guess.
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dedicated GPU and the newer multitouch sensors....oh I'd like the touch buttons to be either heavily improved or replaced with good quality hard buttons that look like the Legend's

Just bought mine. Don't think I will sell it until a see a dual core gsm phone. But even then the Nexus is just soo nice!

Tech_Boy said:
Just bought mine. Don't think I will sell it until a see a dual core gsm phone. But even then the Nexus is just soo nice!
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That's rumored for this winter: http://androidspin.com/2010/06/24/rumor-dual-core-800mhz-phone-hitting-t-mobile-before-holidays/

im gonna hang on to alexis, my nexus, for a bit and retire it as i did my adp1. i think the htc sidekick looks like a worthy replacement in the specs but if its got a ui over stock android im out. Nothing beats having a unbranded device.

i was really looking forward to nexus successors. As a TMobile customer it was my strongest hope of having high powered stock Android options
But what if gingerbread doesnt eliminate other skins like google hopes it will? These other stupid companies have worked hard to put their stupid skins (other than HTC's Sense obviously) on these otherwise great android phones, maybe they wont want to just drop their development.
Then maybe Google would release a phone to display their own UI like they put out the nexus to set the previous bar...

Dai323 said:
Brilliant idea! I really feel that Google needs to put out their own phone regularly, as a high Android powered device running stock Android is in my eyes badly needed. The thing is, I dont think Google is pulling our chains on this. I really dont think another phone will come directly in the same form that the Nexus One did.
Im sure alot of people including myself would scoop up 200,000 of these handsets in a relatively short amount of time.
I personally think thats a great idea, as I love the fact that I dont walk around seeing everyone and their mother having my phone
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Honestly mate, that's what's happened to the iPhone, don't cha think? At least that's how it is in Singapore. Every other schmuck has an iPhone. To think that not too long ago, anything with an "i" as the first letter in its name was something to be proud of. Now it's a phone for the masses.
What I'm trying to say is, I suppose Schmidt had his heart in the right place when he decided to announce that Google's pulled the plug on the project..
However having said that, a "limited edition" every year (to the date, e.g. 5 Jan 2011 for N2) would be wicked

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i was really looking forward to nexus successors. As a TMobile customer it was my strongest hope of having high powered stock Android options
But what if gingerbread doesnt eliminate other skins like google hopes it will? These other stupid companies have worked hard to put their stupid skins (other than HTC's Sense obviously) on these otherwise great android phones, maybe they wont want to just drop their development.
Then maybe Google would release a phone to display their own UI like they put out the nexus to set the previous bar...
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We're all aware of Google's "Do No Evil" motto aren't we? Taking that into consideration I'd say that a more likely route Google may take is to mandate that its partners (Moto, HTC, Acer, etc., ) must, to the best of their abilities, educate their customers on the choices they have (stock vs. something-meatier-on-top [e.g. Sense UI]), and to allow these customers to easily switch between UIs.
Remember how in the earlier builds of HTC's Desire, you could actually "force stop" the Sense UI like any other app? Something like that, just intentional this time

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We're all aware of Google's "Do No Evil" motto aren't we? Taking that into consideration I'd say that a more likely route Google may take is to mandate that its partners (Moto, HTC, Acer, etc., ) must, to the best of their abilities, educate their customers on the choices they have (stock vs. something-meatier-on-top [e.g. Sense UI]), and to allow these customers to easily switch between UIs.
Remember how in the earlier builds of HTC's Desire, you could actually "force stop" the Sense UI like any other app? Something like that, just intentional this time
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yea you could forcestop the sense homescreen, but that's about it...you couldn't do anything about the systemwide integration of sense.
If these OEMs made their skins like home replacements or something and simply disabled stock launcher that'd be great...that way regular joes would use their OS and the more tech savvy people would easily disable the OEM home replacement. Then updates would probably happen faster as well.

AbsoluteDesignz said:
lol, my exact thoughts...I have NO idea what my next phone is gonna be now :-(
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I don't think you need to go looking for a phone as such, I think they find you in a way.....
I went to the shop for my upgrade and saw the G1 for the first time, bang! that was it! that was the handset I wanted.
I then wanted the Hero and I'm now on the Nexus.
Of all the phones out now there is truly not one I want, I'd love a mash up of a couple though! (Samsung S Amoled screen, Desire radio, 8mb camera with Dual flash, HD video, hard buttons...etc).
Basically, until a new hadset comes out, makes me want I don't go looking.

Honeycomb: Do You Have It?

There's rumblings out there that official HC has dropped for the 4G model. Can anyone confirm this?

Nope, I have a Tmobile 4G and only get the No Updates Available page that's been there since the 2.2.2 upgrade.

I'll bet this forum lights up like a Christmas tree when it does.
Sent from my VS910 4G using XDA App

Where did you here honeycomb for us 4g user dropped at.....woukd like to take a look for myself
Sent from a galaxy far far away

I heard it here:
http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/mobile-devices/f/3824/p/19391686/19953755.aspx
Seems that people over the pond are claiming they have it.

naw i dont think so. i think its dell people posting it up. why would people in europe get it first when dells servers are over here. makes no sense

Now all we need is to get a sys dump.....i already tried dells europe site no update
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james_larson2001 said:
naw i dont think so. i think its dell people posting it up. why would people in europe get it first when dells servers are over here. makes no sense
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Why would China get the 10" Dell Streak before America? Why would Dell put a crummy screen on an all-screen device? Why would Dell gimp the battery?
I don't try to understand Dell, anymore. I loved this tab, but I'm starting to think it was a mistake to purchase one. Too bad I don't have the money for whichever tab Sammy comes out with on T-Mo.

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Why would China get the 10" Dell Streak before America? Why would Dell put a crummy screen on an all-screen device? Why would Dell gimp the battery?
I don't try to understand Dell, anymore. I loved this tab, but I'm starting to think it was a mistake to purchase one. Too bad I don't have the money for whichever tab Sammy comes out with on T-Mo.
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LOL
NOt a mistake cos they no honeycomb right now for it, never was when you bought it. There's no 7 inch that got the whole lot good.... screen, battery and OS, never will be. Would never need to buy another one if there was.
Streak 7 does the whole lot tho... can get away with most the gameloft and other latest games on it, got some of the best power behind it. Can probably do pretty much the whole android package...
Saying that though, some of the guys over there on the dell support forums claiming they got the official OTA. Every one should push them for a dump...
http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/mobile-devices/f/3824/t/19391686.aspx?PageIndex=7

If there's any truth in those posts all we need are any details of the update page.
Whatever rom they were on, and possibly their service tag if dell's being fickle and handing it out in phases.
OR just the update page/update.pkg url.
Of course you'll need to reflash back to 2.2.x to install it as all the custom HC roms repartition the device

Pretty much true,
Their build.prop would pretty much do most of it. Very much doubt they have it though, just news just after news about an expected OTA date. Push amigo, push...