Touch vs Touch Pro - which to get - Touch CDMA Android Development

Hi all,
I have Palm Treo 700p's and want to update a bit without losing my fair and flex
family plan with Sprint; unfortunately Spring says I can't upgrade to any of the
phones that natively run Android,
I learned about flashing HTC phones running WM and have been trying to learn.
Trying to decide between the Touch or Touch Pro which seem to be the newest
HTC phones I can use.
It appears that the Touch had the best support but the developers have moved
on and the Touch Pro may now be getting more support; do I read this correctly?
Which would you recommend, Touch or Touch Pro, or is there another phone I
should check with Sprint for use?
I welcome your input
Thanks
FS

From what I have read the Touch Pro doesn't have support like the Touch. There are several things still not working on the Pro.
My opinion get a HTC Hero but if its between Touch and Pro, go Touch.

Unfortunately according to Sprint I can't use the Hero on my plan.
I inquired about the newest HTC phones and learned it was Mogul, Touch and Touch Pro. I ruled out the Mogul due to low support.
Thanks for the input

fastscirocco said:
Unfortunately according to Sprint I can't use the Hero on my plan.
I inquired about the newest HTC phones and learned it was Mogul, Touch and Touch Pro. I ruled out the Mogul due to low support.
Thanks for the input
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They don't give you the option to change your plan to meet the requirements for a better phone??

Mogul is out for sure.
XDANDROID support for the Sprint TP (RAPH 800) is better than Verizon TP (RAPH 500) but still not perfect - no nand, no bluetooth, etc.
The vogue has the best port, period. I imagine the HD2 will pass us eventually since that phone has some decent specs.
Touch Pro 2 I know less about (not that you asked) but is also covered under xdandroid, check the appropriate thread in that forum.
Are you on SERO or something?

Wouldnt it be better to buy the phone directly?
The prices you pay additionaly should be at least the price of a new phone at this moment.
If Ebay or something like this is an option you could get the phone for less.
Thats at least what i would do. Last week for example there was the wildfire for 100€, many people bought more than one so you could have luck on ebay now.
Of course you need the money at once, but i think its not a good idea to rise the monthly bill if you cant afford this now.

Between the Pro and the Vogue, it's the Vogue, hands down. I have both and the Pro is not really useable day-to-day running android. The Vogue on the other hand is an amazing android phone, I have been using one flashed to NAND since late spring (I think) and the only reason I'm shelving mine is I have a Galaxy S on the way.

to be honest, if you dont mind running donut (even though froyo is available) and your willing to put a little work into finding a good old kernel you can have a stable fully functional android phone (everything will work) and rumor has it you can even get MMS working on donut (works on everything above donut i imagine the same update used for it will work in donut) and it will be complete
as i have a hero though i dont have a way to test but i would love to go back and see which kernel and what updates i would have to do to get it working

As someone on the friends and family plan with Sprint, I'm in your same predicament. I want to move on from my beloved vogue to more powerful phones, but Sprint just won't offer us the newer phones. My plan is to get a new battery for my vogue and have it limp along until I can finally get the EVO.

Carrick1973 said:
As someone on the friends and family plan with Sprint, I'm in your same predicament. I want to move on from my beloved vogue to more powerful phones, but Sprint just won't offer us the newer phones. My plan is to get a new battery for my vogue and have it limp along until I can finally get the EVO.
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is the friends and family plan different than the SERO plan? because they began offering android on there in the begining of october
edit: NVM you would need one of the everything plans, a sero plan, or an employee plan for little green guy goodness

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Question regarding everyones happiness with the CDMA Hero.

Hi all, Im finally giving up on my old HTC Tilt and want to move to actual android device. Through my work i get amazing discounts from sprint and thats leading me to either get the Moment or Hero, I must admit im scared of ditching the hardware keyboard. I also get ok discounts with verizon and would be able to get the droid for just over $100, versus $30 for the moment or hero. Do you think the droid would be worth the extra 70? Im scared to not have XDA-dev anymore and dont know when rooting would be possible with the droid. any advice would be great. thanks all and sorry if the questions are dumb
The question is how much is the Verizon data plan? NOthing can beat the sprint plan I have( Family Plan).
Droid is the darling now and give it a month, it will be rooted. What would be nice is having the actual correct way to achieve root. There is no way the developer won't let themselves have root.
based on total cost of ownership, sprint is the way to go. the droid is faster, and has android 2.0 but the hero is going to be getting it soon and the moment is getting some type of upgrade as well. in my eyes the droid is comparable to the moment but with a bigger screen, but the moment has a much more crisp display. it is beautiful. my dad has it. i have a hero. ma b im biased but i say hero. lol!
I guess it is difficult to really say since I have and adore the Hero. Frankly, the new droid is too boxy and I like the software keyboard.
i prefer the hero because it has HTC and i love there designs on the software i have the touch vogue now the hero best choice i made
I went from a hardware keyboard on the Q, Mogul, and TP to the Hero. It took me about 30 minutes to get used to the SIP-only input, but I love it.
I guess it helped that I was using a modified SIP on my Mogul and TP, but software keyboard on the Hero is really not bad - I have the spell check and suggestion settings turned on, so even if my chubby fingers hit the wrong part of the screen, 9 times out of 10, it gets fixed before I'm ready for the next word.
My only complaint about the auto-suggest / correct on the Android over WinMo is that WinMo would suggest phrases that you've used in the past, and give preference to common words. Android makes no such distinctions (that I've seen).
If you get good discounts with Sprint, then I'd suggest going that way. Sprint's EVDO is excellent and seems to be getting better all the time. I get 25% off my bills, which makes the already cheaper data plan basically free (not really, but compared to $35 - $50 from other carriers).
with sprint i would get 23% off a month, no activation fee and the hero or moment for 29.99. Its really hard to pass that up for so dang cheap, and my monthly bill would be roughly $24 dollars cheaper then verizon. So the droid would be really costing be $600 more then the hero/moment.
k2rolla503 said:
with sprint i would get 23% off a month, no activation fee and the hero or moment for 29.99. Its really hard to pass that up for so dang cheap, and my monthly bill would be roughly $24 dollars cheaper then verizon. So the droid would be really costing be $600 more then the hero/moment.
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I went from a Samsung Instinct to HTC Hero - night and day difference. My wife is still using her Instinct, says she'll replace it when it breaks. There is so much more you can do with the HTC Hero than a standard phone, plus the widgets just make it awesome. I love the HTC Sense and 7 home screens. Coworkers with their "icon only" iPhones were amazed at how smooth all my screen transitions were. Plus, I've got it fully integrated (like everyone else) with Google contacts/calendar/etc., and Google Voice is awesome.
With the Android OS I don't really think you can go wrong with a phone, there will always be updates so long as the community is around. And by the time the community is dead, you'll probably be able to run a web server off your phone instead of just junking it
My path led me from normal flip phones to the iPhone (my first smartphone), iPhone 3G, Palm Pre (about the time the iPhone 3GS came out and I got sick of paying so much money for a device that didn't let me listen to pandora while doing other things), HTC Hero...and I love the Hero with it's customizability and the bit of multitasking. I love the software keyboard (I got spoiled on the iphone software keyboard and much prefer it to a hardware one) and multitouch support and I am loving the Sprint plan (saved me $20/month from AT&T which is like giving myself a $240/year raise!). And ever since I got into the smartphone market I want and love tethering...I jailbroke all my iphones to get it, I rooted the pre to get it and now I've flashed my hero to MoDaCo to get it. So far, the openness really speaks to the urge to tweak and experiment I have so Android will likely be where I stay for a while.
I'm happy with the phone but not completely satisfied. It has some issues which need to be resolved, particularly the ROM memory leak which occurs using Bluetooth. I can't use bluetooth at ll for now. The calendar issue and the mono headphone issue also needs resolving. I have not had an issue with dust under the screen (knock on wood) but that would definitely be a huge problem if it occurs.
Even with these issues this phone is the best phone I have ever owned. There are phones that are arguably better (iphone 3gs, droid) but imho this phone is the best value for the money by a long shot. I pay about $52 a month after my 25% discount. My plan is better than if I were with Verizon or ATT and paying $$100 or $70. Sprint coverage in my area is superb as well, ATT sucks. I also get to upgrade phones after 1 year at new costumer rates because of premier status so I get to enjoy this phone for now and a year from now I can get a Hero 2, Dragon, Iphone? on Sprint.
Sprint still has it's shortcomings though. I have always dealt with very courteous csr's but internal communication is really an issue with them. They all seem to know something different and particularly getting a targeted update date is impossible. Verizon on the other hand is amazing at this, within one week of the Droid and Eris launch they had many of the issues documented and disseminated the info to it's employees. There was even a "leak" so users have some idea update dates.

Next Android Port . . . where to from here?

born of curiosity. thinking about my next windows cdma phone to use with my sprint SERO account, and of course it has to run android. right now, the options are few. I like small form factor, so the obvious next step would be the htc diamond - small, getting cheaper, and android port in full swing. a neat little upgrade to the vogue, the biggest downside is the screen size; but hey, we're used to it. on the up, it's got wifi, accelerometer.
or there is the much more expensive TP2 and it's port. big screen and all the goodies, but big footprint that ain't fitting in your pocket easily (not to mention the big price).
of course, all ports seem to build off dzo's work, but it does not seem that nand is up and running on at least these two devices.
wondering where the devs will go next, if anywhere? dzo, mssmison, vilrod, and others, what's your next everyday device; will it be an android port device or a true android device?
if you choose "other win mo android port" please list it below.
Well I went from the Vogue to a Sprint Hero running a completely functional 2.1 build from the HTC Legend on a 2.6.29 kernel but....I'm keeping an eye out on a cheap TP2 to hack around on for fun. It's driving me crazy having everything working
I've had a Vogue for almost 2 years and as soon as an HTC phone hits Verizon with the Snapdragon CPU and a nice 800*480 screen I will be putting the Vogue in the drawer for good.
I ditched the vogue and sero yesterday and added myself to my original family plan with verizon that I still have 4 other people on. It turns out with an employee discount data was $24 and it was 9.99 to add myself so 35 compared to my 30 sero and I get an android phone. But I jumped the gun and ordered the eris. After reading last night and realizing how soon the snapdragon cpu devices (google nexus one and htc incredible) were arriving within the next couple of days, I called this morning and canceled my order. I will wait until they come out. btw I am on Sero 500 and have been out of contract since december.
I'm not a dev but here's my 2 cents I've had my Vogue since 2007... since it first came out. I've been out of contract since like May praying for the Palm Pre, the HTC Hero, and so on. For me, the Diamond is just a very small incremental upgrade, unless it was like $50 bucks, it would not be worth it to me. What's keeping me from the TP2 is the price... $300 is ridiculous! Right now our Vogue's are pretty damn good, so I'm gonna hang out here until A) a better phone is available on SERO B) TP2 price falls below $200. Realistically, I don't really expect either of these things to happen anytime soon..not to mention their ports still being significantly far behind our lovely Vogue port. so... *hugs Vogue* on a side note, the bounty for TP2 port is over 3 grand... damn! lol
Not a vogue user but i've had a tilt since it was introduced to at&t I did upgrade when it was time to an iPhone 3gs but quickly gave that to my wife. Now after 3 or so years AT&T is finally bringing android to their network. With the backflip already introduced and a Nexus one with AT&T 3g capabilities on the market things are starting to look good. I am waiting for the rumored desire to hit my carrier so I can decide between it or the nexus one. I was on the prowl for a newer phone that had an android port working on AT&T with a reasonable price but thats like finding a needle in a haystack. Now I only have to wait a few months for a new one it should be out about the time my wife gets to upgrade her service so I'll just rob her then
The only thing that I am looking for as far as other devices being upgradeable to Android is actually my old- trusty BA (which in fact, was the first device sporting Android that was spotted in the "wild"). There are a few things for the BA working off HaRet (Qtopia and a few other Linux builds), but I would like to get someone to do something as far as completely porting Android to it (just a few drivers to be re-written, I guess)
I'm on SERO, so I'm not giving up $30/mo to get a real Android phone.
I wish Sprint would get the Diamond2/Imagio. I'd help port Android to that. For now, I'll stick with the Vogue. My 2 years isn't up until June.
I don't like the Touch Pro2 because it's a brick. The Diamond / Touch Pro have hideous battery life. I think they must've made a big mistake with that phone that they fixed with the Touch Pro2, because I've heard it sucks down battery like no other (not the Android port, but WinMobile). I don't think even Android would help to fix it, I feel it's a hardware problem.
I just might have to break down and ditch SERO. With the 25% discounts on Sprint, and possibly get a retention $10 credit for ditching SERO, I could get it close...
I'd wait for the Hero2 or the Supersonic. Probably the Supersonic, since the Hero2 isn't snapdragon (though OLED would be nice).
jnadke said:
I'm on SERO, so I'm not giving up $30/mo to get a real Android phone.
I wish Sprint would get the Diamond2/Imagio. I'd help port Android to that. For now, I'll stick with the Vogue. My 2 years isn't up until June.
I don't like the Touch Pro2 because it's a brick. The Diamond / Touch Pro have hideous battery life. I think they must've made a big mistake with that phone that they fixed with the Touch Pro2, because I've heard it sucks down battery like no other (not the Android port, but WinMobile). I don't think even Android would help to fix it, I feel it's a hardware problem.
I just might have to break down and ditch SERO. With the 25% discounts on Sprint, and possibly get a retention $10 credit for ditching SERO, I could get it close...
I'd wait for the Hero2 or the Supersonic. Probably the Supersonic, since the Hero2 isn't snapdragon (though OLED would be nice).
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I'm on the same boat with you. I won't ditch SERO. I'm waiting for a better touchscreen phone for SERO that I can port Android.
x3. I'll never give up SERO.
The Diamond has made some great progress in the last couple of weeks. Still no GPS or Camera support though . I am having fun with it though. Despite the screen size being the same as our vogues the resolution is much nicer. 210 pixel density is kinda nice.
When's the ETA for the Nexus One on Sprint? Not like it will work on SERO though
can not wait for the htc incredible to hit verizon!
snapdragon cpu!
"i'm done with the ports, it's a real android device for me"
I think last poll option can be read negatively.
But fact of the matter is that because FOLKS (we know who all ) have done so tremendous job in porting Vogue that people have converted from Windows Mobile to Android!
So even though, I will switch from Vogue to other full blown Android device, Vogue will be my playground.
Otherwise, where else can you get latest OS (2.1) on a four-year old device!
Thanks guys from making my phone usable!
After my vogue took a crap, I ordered an Eris from eBay, I figured that would be the ideal time to upgrade. Im going to root it tomorrow and begin porting the Legend rom to it. I miss working on the vogue ports, and like Zenulator said, it is wierd actually having every thing working .
I'm hanging tight as it seems that the competition between wireless carriers is accelerating a lot within the last year. With the nexus going to all carriers and the iphone to supposedly follow, it will be interesting to see where things go in terms of pricing. Also throw in 4g coming to sprint in the next quarter (although I read over at their user forum that the 4g has been running into bandwidth problems in the test cities). I forsee 3g "everything" pricing leveling out just under $50 as 4g comes into mainstream.
In short, if I can get a 1ghz+ native android device in the next year on a ~$40 plan, I'll probably bail ship. Otherwise, I'm sticking to Sero and snickering at my iphone friends as I tell them I pay 27.50 a month for my "everything" plan.
I am waiting for the Nexus on VZW. The Legend would be nice but I'd rather have twice the RAM over Sense UI which seems to be the rumor going around about the Legend.
I still can't believe I've had the Vogue for 2 yrs. I've never had a phone for 12 months nevermind 24. That's a credit to the devs here who have extended the life of my phone by more than twice. Thanks.
I will say this, as long as there is still developing for the Vogue I will keep trying it. As others have said, it's weird when everything works. I use a MyTouch 3G at work and its just not as fun or as cool as my Vogue.
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I am waiting for the Nexus on VZW. The Legend would be nice but I'd rather have twice the RAM over Sense UI which seems to be the rumor going around about the Legend.
I still can't believe I've had the Vogue for 2 yrs. I've never had a phone for 12 months nevermind 24. That's a credit to the devs here who have extended the life of my phone by more than twice. Thanks.
I will say this, as long as there is still developing for the Vogue I will keep trying it. As others have said, it's weird when everything works. I use a MyTouch 3G at work and its just not as fun or as cool as my Vogue.
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I couldn't agree more, I'm looking forward to the nexus on vzw as its the first phone I see worth giving up the vogue for.
I'm on a 1 year business contract so I used to get a new phone every 10-12 months 'til I got the vogue and discovered this forum, going on 2 years with my vogue! I think I see the end coming soon though..
yeah, jdnake and myn, I agree about not giving up SERO. i was tempted for a little bit, but couldn't bring myself to do it. there is a gap in the windows mobile phones on sprint right now, you're right the TP2 is an absolute brick; but if nothing else comes through the pipeline, as much as I love sleek phones if I'm going to buy something it is definitely going to have more screen real estate than the vogue . . . i'm praying for a diamond 2 to land in the lineup. I'll keep my vogue android phone for a while yet, though, waiting, waiting on something nicer for SERO. ok, I'm rambling. need sleep.
For me it's going to be g1 -> magic -> snapdragon based.
That or I'll keep the vogue forever..
lol
I left the Vogue a couple of months back and got the Eris. It's doing it's job for now, but when that Nexus hits big red, I'm going to be tempted...
jnadke said:
I'm on SERO, so I'm not giving up $30/mo to get a real Android phone.
I wish Sprint would get the Diamond2/Imagio. I'd help port Android to that. For now, I'll stick with the Vogue. My 2 years isn't up until June.
I don't like the Touch Pro2 because it's a brick. The Diamond / Touch Pro have hideous battery life. I think they must've made a big mistake with that phone that they fixed with the Touch Pro2, because I've heard it sucks down battery like no other (not the Android port, but WinMobile). I don't think even Android would help to fix it, I feel it's a hardware problem.
I just might have to break down and ditch SERO. With the 25% discounts on Sprint, and possibly get a retention $10 credit for ditching SERO, I could get it close...
I'd wait for the Hero2 or the Supersonic. Probably the Supersonic, since the Hero2 isn't snapdragon (though OLED would be nice).
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I had a Touch Pro when I was with AT&T and the battery life is mostly a software issue. When I was running a custom 6.5/Sense ROM the battery life was amazing for a multitasking smartphone and much better than the Moment I have now

Meego on Vogue :p

Sounds crazy?
I completed a first little proof of concept running the new Intel/Nokia platform Meego on Vogue.
So far I end up in error with this loading linux:
cannot set terminal_process group - Inappropriate ioctl for device
Here's the recipe:
- QEmu for Windows Mobile http://niuki.net/files/QEMU_WM.7z
- The Meego usbimg file http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/devel/n900/images/meego-codedrop-arm-n900-201003311614.ubiimg
- emul_cmdline.txt:
==== CONTENTS ====
-hda
meego.usbimg
-boot
c
-m
32
-no-acpi
==== CONTENTS ====
- create a new emul profile with the emul_cmdline.txt below.
Cool project, I like the look of maemo a little more but it's always great to see new ideas popping up.
if this can succesfully be ported
i wold be severly impressed
VOGUES the phones of the future in the past
Changing phone !?!
inertone said:
if this can succesfully be ported
i wold be severly impressed
VOGUES the phones of the future in the past
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Yeah that's so true, now I'm stuck taking a decision now that I'm at the end of my 3y contract,
and I can't switch to 3G has I have an unlimited data plan for 7$ on CDMA and the maximum limit for any 3G where I am is 3 gig. not more. And I'm doing 1500 kbs with Android 1024 with WinMo..
The only CDMA choice they gave me is the Samsung Galaxy and the problem is that this device has an known issue with Bluetooth Stereo Headset... and that's my #1 feature.
I can always just throw the money on credits instead and keep the good old vogue ... for 3 more years?? ...
What u guys think? Vogue users... Anyone in the same dilemma?
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blauze said:
Yeah that's so true, now I'm stuck taking a decision now that I'm at the end of my 3y contract,
and I can't switch to 3G has I have an unlimited data plan for 7$ on CDMA and the maximum limit for any 3G where I am is 3 gig. not more. And I'm doing 1500 kbs with Android 1024 with WinMo..
The only CDMA choice they gave me is the Samsung Galaxy and the problem is that this device has an known issue with Bluetooth Stereo Headset... and that's my #1 feature.
I can always just throw the money on credits instead and keep the good old vogue ... for 3 more years?? ...
What u guys think? Vogue users... Anyone in the same dilemma?
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keep the vogue. this vogue android community is growing stronger than ever before. and there are alot of ports to choose from and more coming i just brought my phone in to get replaced and i could of easily gotten a different phone but i love this community and it just wouldnt be right with a complete phone. especially wouldnt be right without you guys!!!
my vote is to stay with vogue
cp0020 said:
keep the vogue. this vogue android community is growing stronger than ever before. and there are alot of ports to choose from and more coming i just brought my phone in to get replaced and i could of easily gotten a different phone but i love this community and it just wouldnt be right with a complete phone. especially wouldnt be right without you guys!!!
my vote is to stay with vogue
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same recommendation as well
as soon as the incredible comes out
im buying it
buut, there is NO WAY im turning my back on this community
like CP said, Android on Vogue IS getting stronger!
inertone said:
same recommendation as well
as soon as the incredible comes out
im buying it
buut, there is NO WAY im turning my back on this community
like CP said, Android on Vogue IS getting stronger!
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I know that would be cruel to switch phone.
But sooner or later CDMA will go... for the next 3 years that's my only chance to get the Samsung Impact which is 3G, then I will throw it away and since they would give me a SIM card, then I could jump to a unlocked Nexus One let's say or a HTC Incredible... but if I wait i will loose my data plan because believe it or not HTC Vogue is not a "intelligent" (smart) phone at Bell Mobility, Canada. and as time goes no 3G phone will be "dumb" phone.
Samsung Impact is the last dumb phone with WinMo. and unlimited compared to a stupid iPhone is 462$/month as I rate a 12-16 gig per month streaming webcasts, youtube and radio.
I'll sleep on that. Thanks for the advices
blauze said:
I know that would be cruel to switch phone.
But sooner or later CDMA will go... for the next 3 years that's my only chance to get the Samsung Impact which is 3G, then I will throw it away and since they would give me a SIM card, then I could jump to a unlocked Nexus One let's say or a HTC Incredible... but if I wait i will loose my data plan because believe it or not HTC Vogue is not a "intelligent" (smart) phone at Bell Mobility, Canada. and as time goes no 3G phone will be "dumb" phone.
Samsung Impact is the last dumb phone with WinMo. and unlimited compared to a stupid iPhone is 462$/month as I rate a 12-16 gig per month streaming webcasts, youtube and radio.
I'll sleep on that. Thanks for the advices
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You're on Bell Mobility like me,
Since they now support all unlocked gsm based phones you have a huge selection of phones to choose from. But you're right data rates are a pain with Bell. Thankfully I don't use near as much as you do , and am hoping actually that it will be less if I can find a phone with wifi in it.
I'm also with Bell, are there any other awesomephones like our HTC that use the $10 unlimited data?
Bell and phones
vinny13 said:
I'm also with Bell, are there any other awesomephones like our HTC that use the $10 unlimited data?
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The Samsung Impact is the last one available with the smartphone notion and it will be discontinued this summer. Otherwise, Blackberry and dumb flip phone are available too but that is really to downgrade back to year 1999... You need to get the samsung impact and buy a new unlocked phone, otherwise you'll be stuck with HTC Vogue for the rest of the time you don't want an expensive data plan.
blauze said:
The Samsung Impact is the last one available with the smartphone notion and it will be discontinued this summer. Otherwise, Blackberry and dumb flip phone are available too but that is really to downgrade back to year 1999... You need to get the samsung impact and buy a new unlocked phone, otherwise you'll be stuck with HTC Vogue for the rest of the time you don't want an expensive data plan.
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Ehh... That phone is nice but I don't see much of a reason why I should upgrade to it, not with Android on my Vogue
blauze said:
The Samsung Impact is the last one available with the smartphone notion and it will be discontinued this summer. Otherwise, Blackberry and dumb flip phone are available too but that is really to downgrade back to year 1999... You need to get the samsung impact and buy a new unlocked phone, otherwise you'll be stuck with HTC Vogue for the rest of the time you don't want an expensive data plan.
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Stuck? I enjoy my vogue, some of us arn't 'stuck' with it like you say.
mrono said:
Stuck? I enjoy my vogue, some of us arn't 'stuck' with it like you say.
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there is a difference between ''stuck'' and ''sticking'' and i'm sticking with my vogue lol
mrono said:
Stuck? I enjoy my vogue, some of us arn't 'stuck' with it like you say.
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The verb "stuck" was more a reference to be stuck on CDMA, and to have no choice to upgrade to avoid losing my contract in it actual format. I still think HTC Vogue is more versatile device around.
Between my contract and the vogue the contract wins.
blauze said:
Sounds crazy?
I completed a first little proof of concept running the new Intel/Nokia platform Meego on Vogue.
So far I end up in error with this loading linux:
cannot set terminal_process group - Inappropriate ioctl for device
Here's the recipe:
- QEmu for Windows Mobile http://niuki.net/files/QEMU_WM.7z
- The Meego usbimg file http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/devel/n900/images/meego-codedrop-arm-n900-201003311614.ubiimg
- emul_cmdline.txt:
==== CONTENTS ====
-hda
meego.usbimg
-boot
c
-m
32
-no-acpi
==== CONTENTS ====
- create a new emul profile with the emul_cmdline.txt below.
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I love the Vogue. I've had mine for 23mo and there are still development going on. Meego would definitely be awesome. I love what Android has done for my Vogue but I just pre-ordered an Incredible and my Vogue is gonna be my secondary line so something other than Android (not WinMo) would be awesome.

UK User Desire or N1 ?

Hello guys,
I've put my HD2 up for sale and i'm looking for a Android phone.
I've obviously got the Desire and N1 in mind however choosing between the two i'm just so unsure.
The Desire has the SenseUI which I love on my HD2, and by my understanding the Widgets are pretty good compared to the N1, but the Android updates will be slower because of SenseUI needing to be integrated on each release.
But I have to admit i'm one of those people who needs a device running on the latest software being all it can be, so with the fact the N1 is already on Froyo 2.2 i'm then pulled towards this phone, as I'm doubtful the Desire will receive the same support over time.
Also if I Root the N1 I presume some people are putting Sense UI on the N1's and I could do the same>?
Likewise could I do the same thing on the Desire, i.e. Vanilla Froyo 2.2 without SenseUI on the Desire? or are they different internally?
My other headache is I would need to buy the N1 from the states, and am concerned of it not working properly in the UK.
with pinch to zoom on the N1 now, the only difference is the slightley different pshyical layout, and SenseUI, with N1 getting the updates first.
If i've said anything incorrect please let me know, correct me, more information is always good
If any UK users can tell me how easy a UK order is
And if you were buying one now which would you buy?
Thanks, Luke.
The Desire SenseUI isn't the same as the HD2's SenseUI so loving it on one doesn't mean you'll love it on the other.
It's very easy to order from the UK, mine took 3/4 days to arrive (ordered Tuesday evening, arrived Friday). Everything works fine... the so called 'T-Mobile' version has all the right frequencies for the UK and it comes with the right locale settings for us.
Get N1, put MoDaCo ROM on it and you'll have Sense UI
I had Desire here in the UK, but it turned out to be not geeky enough for me, so I sold it and got Nexus One.
Personally I love the trackball on the N1. The light is awesome. I missed that the most from my blackberry perl when I used an iPhone.
Just my opinion I for not live in the UK so I can't really comment on the specifics for the area.
I bought an N1 and still would if I had to make the choice again. Although I did like SenseUI, it simply wasn't important enough when comparing it against how quick the N1 will get OS updates over other Android devices. The N1 and Desire are very similar phones performance wise, whereas newer Android devices have a better camera etc these two are virtually identical. Therefore it comes down to a pretty simple choice, how quick do you want updates
I appreciate what your saying, and accept that the Sense isn't the same, but while not the same I can see the appeal.
As for the 'T-Mobile' version do I have to specify it at point of sale?
The Modaco Rom looks most interesting i'll investigate it and see what happens. So far i'm leaning more to the N1.
BTW I heard a rumor Google were stop selling the N1 themselves is this true?
They will not sell N1 via the website, but it will still be available via carriers. In the US it will only be T-Mobile, because everyone else decided to not sell N1 and sell Evo 4G and Incredible instead.
In the UK, there should be more carriers, but for now it's only Vodafone as far as I know.
Interesting you say this as i'm on the payments page (was looking for total cost)
nexus one - t-mobile uk owner
diablous said:
Interesting you say this as i'm on the payments page (was looking for total cost)
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it's still for sale at the mo, but a recent googlerumour (tm) said they'd soon be stopping the http://google.com/phone purchase store, only having links to carriers.
I bought one a few months back, first android phone (came from a HTC touch Pro (pm me if anyone wants to buy)) and have to say it is a ruddy good phone, total cost including import tax was a fair bit but still less than having a contract @ £35 a month for 18 months min.
I'm happy with mine and would do the same again.
Personally I like the N1 better. I have an N1 and my brother-in-law has the Desire. Both are nice phones but I liked android stock, speech-to-text and noise cancellation. The sense UI does give the perception of a more polished phone, though, which is ideal if you just want that polished experience and don't care for fiddling around with rooting and different roms. My brother-in-law isn't a geek and just wanted a smartphone to use for social networks and to replace his tom-tom, so the Desire is ideal for him too.
They're basically the same phone and it all depends on how you'll use it. For me, no other phone has voice dictation and noise cancellation and so the N1 stands out from all the rest.
Word of advice:
DO NOT BUY THE UK CHARGER
It's not worth it, I use an 80p shaver plug from ASDA with the supplied US charger.
After extended looking at the two phones the Sense UI is starting to win me over... The Nexus 1 is the modders phone, but what are the widgets like? Sense look really good and useful.
I would say if your going to stick to Stock then Get the Samsung Galaxy S I hear its amazingly Fast!! but if you want to Root get the nexus one.
it will be rooted, but for the purpose of being right up to date. with the best apps.
it's either Desire or Nexus 1.
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it will be rooted, but for the purpose of being right up to date. with the best apps.
it's either Desire or Nexus 1.
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Then it has to be the N1.
Desire isnt as easy to root. The current root for it doesnt allow you to write to the filesystem if I understand corectly. So if you want to have the most options available to you, I would go for the N1.
WARNING
You should also be aware that the total cost on googles site is not the total cost at all, when ordering to the UK you will be charged a variety of taxes including VAT and customs tax etc etc which make the phone alot more expensive. I personally recomend you buying the phone from a friend with an upgrade coming on Voda, most people find it hard to turn down £400 cash. Thats just my 2 pence
You only pay VAT at 17.5%. There's no duties or customs taxes on the phone itself.
You only pay duty on accesories, eg the UK plug - which is pointless - just use a US to UK adapter for 50p

[Q] Who are the Bell users left with the HTC Touch

As my touch screen begins to select different areas randomly, I am eBaying a new digitizer for my 5 year-old HTC touch and wondering - who else is left using this as their primary device on Bell in Canada?
My Wife and I are still on Bell Vogue. A white and blue-grey one.
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My Wife and I are still on Bell Vogue. A white and blue-grey one.
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Nice! What are you running?
Mine is still chugging away running Fat Free Froyo. The 3 year contract is done in a month which is when I will lose my 1000min/month free long distance. Hopefully soon after that, the Samsung Galaxy S2 will be released in Canada. It will suck to have to start paying for data, but whatever I guess.
Wife and I are still on vogue with Bell. Running Fat Free Froyo, not sure which version. For a while I kept 12 since I thought it was the most stable (with 10-04-10 .25 kernel ), can't remember what I have now anymore. Looking for a better combo, because I want apps to SD, camera, and USB mount. Such a combo doesn't seem to exist.
i am still sticking with my vouge... for now
ME! I'm on fat free froyo as well, been waiting for another release of scoots 2.3, still have 5 month left on the contract
me. Using Super Froyo.
Bell prepaid. I cannot find any other plan better than mine: pay $11.3 every month, get unlimited data, unlimited msg (through Heywire), voicemail, CID, and still $7 remain can be used for prepaid voice call
My ex-wife and I are still on a family plan with two touches running fat free froyo. This phone is awesome! For the price for unlimited data I'm not planning to switch any time soon. (I even put up with the ex wife.. that's how good it is!!)
I'm on my 2nd HTC Touch. Currently I'm waiting for the digitizer to come in, the touch screen has become very sporadic. I'm using the Cyagenmod 7.0.2 build right now
me! im still running the vogue as hard as the day i got it
My digitizer just came in, can't wait to get it up this weekend. I've been off FourSquare for weeks and it's killing me!
I am still on my Vogue. The contract ended a few months ago. I just replaced the touch screen. The old one didn't response to touch anymore. Bell offered me a pretty good deal for about $40 (500MB+350min). I think I will switch when the new iPhone comes out.
Still have a Vogue, contract ended a month ago. Waiting for the Galaxy S II to come out on Bell (couple of weeks).
Been running the Incubus v16 rom lately.
My biggest problem is that my power button died. I used that vogue/android tool that lets you turn the phone on with any other button, but after the phone sleeps for a few minutes, there's no way to turn it back on, so I have to keep it plugged in all the time so I can turn it back on.... but that makes it overheat and lock up every once and a while.
Also, voice input doesn't work.
Sigh. I've never found a solution...
Gonna hate giving up the unlimited data when I upgrade though!
I'm still using the HTC touch as my main phone but I'm looking to upgrade the rom, I'm currently using the warm donut rom.
Kernel Version
2.6.32.9
Firmware version
1.6
I am!
I've got 3 batteries, my white phone that I use and two blue phones for parts when the white one finally bites the dust.
I've got 2 years left on the contract
My plan is to stick it out with this phone and when I finish college I'm going to buy myself a nice new phone. A good reward for finishing.
I'm still running NFSFAN's WM6.5 1.00 final ROM lol.
I've been out of the loop for a while (years) and I'd like to see what is new now that I have a been more time from work.
I notice everyone is using "Fat Free Froyo's" ROM these days. What are the advantages over NFSFAN's builds? I know it's been years since NFSFAN has updated his ROMs but they have served me well. I use it quite often up north at the cottage to tether on my laptop and the encryption seems to work just fine, never have been billed. Is that the case with the newer ROMS?
I've also purchased a 2000maH battery a while back. It makes the phone a clunker but the stock battery just wasn't cutting it.
I have been using my Desire as my main phone for some time now, I use my Vogue to tinker with.
NFSFAN 1.00 is your best bet, everything works, no lag, tethering works (and reverse passthrough) etc.
I've tested ALL of the Android offerings here, none are what I would call quick, not after running my desire which has zero lag. Because my Desire has sense I like to play with base builds here (fat free froyo, etc) but these are very slow compared to the desire, the desire on a base (non - sense) ROM just flies, it's depressing using Android on the Vogue.
Once again, NFSFAN's ROM and Vin's ROMs were the standard for me, excellent exchange support, good camera, everything worked and hardly any lag.
I am now a dedicated Android user, and I never plan to go back to microsoft.....BUT... on the Vogue you can't beat winmo, especially the final polished products NFSFAN or Vin released.
regards,
Bell's getting Samsung Galaxy S II on July 21st
I still had my vogue up to a couple of weeks ago (still have it but It's given up the ghost) wish it was still functional for testing anything out for people. For me Android managed to run fairly well given the specs of the phone with a bit of overclocking (think thats what eventually killed it however)
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