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[Q] As more and more ROMs are released, what is the difference between them all?

Hey all,
As the Captivate becomes more popular, I'm seeing more and more ROMs pop up. Problem is, I can't quite figure out the differences between most of them. They all seem to have the exact same features.
Currently on the front page I see:
Cognition
Perception
AXURA
Assonance
di11igaf's ROM
eSPyeL's ROM
As I look through the features, most of it looks pretty similar. So my question is, can anyone break down the key differences between the ROMs? While we're at it, maybe we can discuss the different kernels too?

This belongs in Q & A not in development please!
We need to keep this area clean for development threads only.
Regards

Ugh, sorry. I feel like a dumbass.

shaolin95 said:
This belongs in Q & A not in development please!
We need to keep this area clean for development threads only.
Regards
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thecoolestcow said:
Ugh, sorry. I feel like a dumbass.
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damn I m too late to flame the thread

None of the people who frequent the Q&A forums are of any help :-/

DAGr8 said:
damn I m too late to flame the thread
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Of course you are too late, look, that other guys has flames in his sig, you know he means business when flaming! lol
Anyway, read the OP on each rom, they all have different things
To the Q&A!!

Thecoolestcow has a good point... plus 90% of the posts in the dev threads are 'omg I can't wait'/'hey good job'/'wah wah im a noob' .
Seriously...1000 pages on a dev thread... that's beyond useless.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App

More effective thread locking please.
Could we have something besides community flaming to deter the junk posters?

thecoolestcow said:
None of the people who frequent the Q&A forums are of any help :-/
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I make it a point to come to Q&A and try and help.
The problem is the overwhelming number of ZOMG WUT DU I DOOOO threads that push valid questions down to oblivion.

410 views and nobody has answered his question.
As far as I know (which may contain incorrect information), each rom is built off the same base rom. There are captivate based frameworks and i9000 based frameworks. Then there are kernels and models.
Some roms emphasize stability, they do not use the latest overclocked kernels, they stick to stock filesystems etc. Other roms emphasize the latest breakthroughs in Galaxy S modifications (1200-1600mhz OC/UV, speedtweaks, filesystem changes). Another rom may emphasize reduced-bloat, everything is stock but theres no crapware. And on top of it all, everyone mixes and matches kernels and modems (but most are on JK3 and i9000 Kernels, though most use SeitroN's and DG has his own). On top of all that, developers apply themes that they like (all of which you can customize yourself).
I hope that helped. I haven't researched deeply into each rom, but this is just what I've deducted.

[Q] How are others dealing with the loss of BLN in CM7? Other visual notifications?

Hi
Soooo I've just setup a Captivate with CM7 and find it pretty slick, but one thing that REALLY bugs me (and I wonder how it's not bugging others too) is the loss of BLN notifications. I hate having to turn on my screen just to check for a new msg/alert and BLN was great at providing a quick visual cue of something waiting on the phone. How do others deal with not having BLN...is there some other app (other then NoLED) that achieves something similar...or is 'just deal with it' the standard response to this? I see a user by the name of kang has done some custom CM7 kernels but these are all for voodoo sound AFAIK. Any thoughts?
Thanks
Jason

It would be nice to have but for obvious reasons its not high on the priority list compared to other needed fixes
CM7

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982776
Just in case you didnt see this at the top of the forum. It was a known issue and you didn't need to flash CM7 seeing as how you should have read that BLN was not an option. I have sound notifications enabled which work just fine for me. Also the lack of notification awareness helps me unplug from the online world for a short period of time.

flashman2002 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982776
Just in case you didnt see this at the top of the forum. It was a known issue and you didn't need to flash CM7 seeing as how you should have read that BLN was not an option. I have sound notifications enabled which work just fine for me. Also the lack of notification awareness helps me unplug from the online world for a short period of time.
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Funny how some people justify the flaws of CM7. You have a smart phone thats sole purpose is to keep you in constant touch with the online world, yet you say the lack of BLN is your way to get away from it. Like you can't just put it down and not look at it, lol.

axis01 said:
Funny how some people justify the flaws of CM7. You have a smart phone thats sole purpose is to keep you in constant touch with the online world, yet you say the lack of BLN is your way to get away from it. Like you can't just put it down and not look at it, lol.
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I didn't see anyone justifying a "flaw". if you flash cm7 & don't know bln is not an option at the moment, well reading must not be a strong suit.
BLN does not rank high on the priority list of either the cm7 devs or the devs making kernels. Since it is a beta and there are many compatibility issues between the nexus s and the captivate, such as no ext sd in nexus s, more important things are being worked on.
To throw in there, that cm7 has several features (many of which are much more useful than bln) in it that none of the 2.2 or 2.2.1 , roms have. The fact that they dont have the features are not "flaws". Just differences
CM7

axis01 said:
Funny how some people justify the flaws of CM7. You have a smart phone thats sole purpose is to keep you in constant touch with the online world, yet you say the lack of BLN is your way to get away from it. Like you can't just put it down and not look at it, lol.
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Uhhh...just because I have a smart phone does t make it my sole purpose for staying in touch. Your priorities must be skewed a bit on what "I" do with "my" phone. And highlight where I was defending cm7 and its flaws? Pointing out the proper thread to post in? No. Saying the op should have read before flashing? No. Stating that I have sound notification and the lack of bln keeps me from checking my phone when I get a message? No. Hmmm...strange. Why do you defend the need for bln considering the captivate went months without it...and for the longest period No led was the best option available. Sorry for not needing an option of little importance to me.
This is my Captivate. There are many like it but this one is mine

flashman2002 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982776
Just in case you didnt see this at the top of the forum. It was a known issue and you didn't need to flash CM7 seeing as how you should have read that BLN was not an option. I have sound notifications enabled which work just fine for me. Also the lack of notification awareness helps me unplug from the online world for a short period of time.
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Woah, at no point in time did I say I was forced into flashing CM7, nor did I state that I wasn't fully aware of the lack of BLN support...I was simply opening a discussion on how others handle not having a proper LED and now not having BLN...like in your case, you just dont care, fine, that's one valid solution. Another might be to just turn up the audio notification volume very high. I was hoping for some application suggestions, like perhaps one that would do recurring audio notifications until it was acknowledged or something...you know, discussion without picking about and posturing...sorry for being so confused about the nature of this forum.
And I figured and read multiple times that BLN wasn't a core concern for the devs, but I'm sure a number of us users would like to see it...that's all...and I did give props to CM7 right off the hop in my OP, no?
Cheers to those who get it.
J

grasshands said:
Woah, at no point in time did I say I was forced into flashing CM7, nor did I state that I wasn't fully aware of the lack of BLN support...I was simply opening a discussion on how others handle not having a proper LED and now not having BLN...like in your case, you just dont care, fine, that's one valid solution. Another might be to just turn up the audio notification volume very high. I was hoping for some application suggestions, like perhaps one that would do recurring audio notifications until it was acknowledged or something...you know, discussion without picking about and posturing...sorry for being so confused about the nature of this forum.
And I figured and read multiple times that BLN wasn't a core concern for the devs, but I'm sure a number of us users would like to see it...that's all...and I did give props to CM7 right off the hop in my OP, no?
Cheers to those who get it.
J
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First, you didn't really need to create a new thread on a topic that has been discussed before. Second, if you need light notification get that app I mentioned in my second post (No LED). I don't use it anymore so I can't say for sure if it works with Gingerbread. It worked just fine when I was on Froyo. I am not posturing anything, just informing you about a Q&A thread that you should have posted in. I am glad you did read the thread and you had expectations of what was working and not working. If I seem like I am posturing that's ok, just helping you understand how some threads pop up when they really don't need to be. Try out No LED as I think that is the main option still available for lack of BLN.
Edit: I never said you were forced to flash CM7 as you said. I said you didn't need to flash CM7 knowing what worked and didn't work. I just don't understand starting a thread on a topic which has been known; you clearly stated you read the issues with CM7 and still flashed. It doesn't make any sense honestly. Tell me what I am missing here?

flashman2002 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982776
Just in case you didnt see this at the top of the forum. It was a known issue and you didn't need to flash CM7 seeing as how you should have read that BLN was not an option. I have sound notifications enabled which work just fine for me. Also the lack of notification awareness helps me unplug from the online world for a short period of time.
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And just because we're all playing so nice...nowhere in that link is BLN specifically mentioned.
Just saying....
Thanks
J

flashman2002 said:
First, you didn't really need to create a new thread on a topic that has been discussed before. Second, if you need light notification get that app I mentioned in my second post (No LED). I don't use it anymore so I can't say for sure if it works with Gingerbread. It worked just fine when I was on Froyo. I am not posturing anything, just informing you about a Q&A thread that you should have posted in. I am glad you did read the thread and you had expectations of what was working and not working. If I seem like I am posturing that's ok, just helping you understand how some threads pop up when they really don't need to be. Try out No LED as I think that is the main option still available for lack of BLN.
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Yes, I would have loved to post in the Q&A thread, but due to new user restrictions, I was not able to and thus I posted in this, the Q&A forum.
I believe I mentioned specifically against NoLED as I've tried it as one possible solution and didn't really like it...but I didn't say it wasn't valid by any means and again, thanks for a suggestion.
Thanks.
J

grasshands said:
And just because we're all playing so nice...nowhere in that link is BLN specifically mentioned.
Just saying....
Thanks
J
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You will learn eventually. What do you think Q&A means? This is not the only thread that talks about CM7 IE: Dev thread. The Q&A thread is used for questions and answers. So if it isn't in that thread because you finally searched, maybe you would have asked about BLN and options as a replacement. I gave you a link to where this thread and question should have been asked! Got it yet?

flashman2002 said:
Edit: I never said you were forced to flash CM7 as you said. I said you didn't need to flash CM7 knowing what worked and didn't work. I just don't understand starting a thread on a topic which has been known; you clearly stated you read the issues with CM7 and still flashed. It doesn't make any sense honestly. Tell me what I am missing here?
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What you're missing is the fact that I wasn't bashing CM7, or complaining, but opening a discussion, with the other users of CM7 and the captivate in general, on how they handle notifications...

flashman2002 said:
You will learn eventually. What do you think Q&A means? This is not the only thread that talks about CM7 IE: Dev thread. The Q&A thread is used for questions and answers. So if it isn't in that thread because you finally searched, maybe you would have asked about BLN and options as a replacement. I gave you a link to where this thread and question should have been asked! Got it yet?
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Ok thankyou.

grasshands said:
What you're missing is the fact that I wasn't bashing CM7, or complaining, but opening a discussion, with the other users of CM7 and the captivate in general, on how they handle notifications...
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This is my last post in your thread. Again you put words in my mouth. I didn't say you bashed CM7 and I am not defending CM7. I am giving you the proper forum for asking your question. That is why there is a Q&A thread for CM7. No offense to you but you obviously don't understand my intent which was to inform you first that there was a better thread for asking your question. Second was to see why you flashed when it has been known that BLN was not compatible with CM7.
Yes, the Q&A thread does not mention BLN. It has been discussed in the Dev thread. By asking your question in the Q&A thread you would have posted in the proper location and still got answers. Sorry for being forum police but that is how it works with forums. Hopefully you will see I am not trying to be an ass and I get what you were wanting, and I gave you a possible solution that I personally have not tried since Froyo. (No LED). Give it a shot.

Sorry for the negative Nelly's
I think that in all the hustle and bustle to iron out technical difficulties and the like the ultimate goal is often lost. Creating an open and effective operating environment for mobile devices that benefits the user and facilitates quick and effective communication with the development team and those who use the software on a daily basis.
If you have not already found a solution, I have the same desire for BLN on Cyanogen. I found that using another Kernel that sits on top of Cyanogen provides that functionality as well as CPU overclocking. I like Le Kernel Du Jour for example and it can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=982337
I hope this was helpful.

grasshands said:
Yes, I would have loved to post in the Q&A thread, but due to new user restrictions, I was not able to and thus I posted in this, the Q&A forum.
J
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Just as a clarification for anyone else reading this thread, there are no restrictions for posting in the Q&A subforum or in any of its stickies. This should have been in the CM7 sticky from the beginning and there's no excuse as to why it wasn't. The Development subforum is the only one with any restrictions.

Miami_Son said:
Just as a clarification for anyone else reading this thread, there are no restrictions for posting in the Q&A subforum or in any of its stickies. This should have been in the CM7 sticky from the beginning and there's no excuse as to why it wasn't. The Development subforum is the only one with any restrictions.
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Half of the spam generated on this forum is from people telling the op why they need to search more or post in a different section. Let the mods sort it out and spend your time with constructive posts.
I for one missed bln when I had cm7 but it was never a game changer for me
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crystalhand said:
Half of the spam generated on this forum is from people telling the op why they need to search more or post in a different section. Let the mods sort it out and spend your time with constructive posts.
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A. The mods can't be everywhere all the time.
B. Educating the noobs and keeping the forum tidy is not SPAM.
C. The mods appreciate the help.

[Q] Development phone

I help develop and test the Tk-Glitch kernel, and recently found myself with two Captivates. The second does not have a SIM card in it ever, just on airplane mode with wifi enabled. My question is first: can the No Service be taken off of the lockscreen and the notification area, and second: What do you think I can take out of the ROM itself to make it as light as possible for developing?

This is probably not exactly what you are looking for, but look through this thread to see if anything here would be helpful. The same poster had another thread with more specific info about remiving things.

creepyncrawly said:
This is probably not exactly what you are looking for, but look through this thread to see if anything here would be helpful. The same poster had another thread with more specific info about remiving things.
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Yeah, I saw that, but he didnt specify what he took out unfortunately.

Compare the roms in that thread to the full ones he removed stuff from...

sixstringsg said:
Yeah, I saw that, but he didnt specify what he took out unfortunately.
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He had an earlier thread with some specifics about what was taken out. It was in Captivate General, or maybe Q&A. Try searching on his user name.

Why don't you hit up nitr8 or sam who runs surface in the i9000 forum. They publish ultra lite roms that you can add what you need to

Roms

Would someone care to reference the difference between all the roms? JVS etc every week that I come on here I have to search what the new rom letters mean. Maybe you can make a sticky making it easier for everyone?

This thread is not going to end well.

I don't really care, they sticky everything so why not what roms are for our phones and what ones are ported. Also what order the came out in. Im done with the captivate this weekend anyway, its only a suggestion.

First, id say what your looking for is already clearly available. 2nd, id say this should be in the development section.
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justin860 said:
Would someone care to reference the difference between all the roms? JVS etc every week that I come on here I have to search what the new rom letters mean. Maybe you can make a sticky making it easier for everyone?
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Look here, thanks and credit to sammobile.com----
http://www.sammobile.com/threads/36-Samsung-Letter-Code. This is good with i897, but I'm still not sure about the i9000 rom lettering system, i.e JVT = ??
You may have to register and login to see this, not sure though. Hope it helps anyway.

conantroutman said:
I'll get straight to the point....
Despite stickys and forum announcements most of us are still finding ourselves becoming terribly, terribly vexed at the amount of [Q]'s cluttering the dev section...
Therefore, from now on, if you do not follow the rules outlined below, you will be infracted. Break them again and you may find yourself unable to post anything at all on any forum!!
If you cannot read and abide by the simple rules in this sticky then I dont know how you're going to manage to hack your device without running into trouble.​​
The Dev section is NOT for asking questions.....
The Dev section is NOT for general topics..........
All threads posted MUST be prefixed with a description of the thread, [ROM] / [Kernel] etc etc.....*
*(Not planning on being particuarly strict on this. You guys (the devs), know how to title a thread.... just a pointer for new devs.)
Basically, unless your thread is to actually release something or discuss something of a very technical and n00b unfriendly nature, it doesnt belong here!
Pretty simple really.....
If you see something that shouldnt be here then PM me....
I will try to check in as reguarly as I can but I have a few sections to keep an eye on and believe it or not, a life outside XDA
Yes thats right, there is life outside XDA​
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right from
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^ +1
Agree 100 %
And I answered his question the way I could to try to help a little.
And I knew this thread would eventually get moved.
PM'd conantroutman to request the move just in case no one else has.

nh5 said:
First, id say what your looking for is already clearly available. 2nd, id say this should be in the development section.
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you mean this SHOULDN'T be in the development section.

[Q] Modems...

I know there is no "definitive" answer. But with so many modems, is there a list of modems that are accepted to be among the best?
Recently flashed ICSSGS RC 3.1, and while it is a great ROM, the included modem (JVT) gave me rubbish reception on Telstra in Australia (850 band). Have been trying various modems as replacements such as KP1, KG3 and JL2.
Anyway, as I mentioned, I would really just like to gain peoples opinions on the top modems available. Or if there is a thread which already discusses this, could someone point me in the direction of it?
Thanks guys!

Here ya go...this should help... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16843698&postcount=1
This is the main Modem Stickied Thread in the Development Forum.
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4-2ndtwin said:
Here ya go...this should help... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=16843698&postcount=1
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I had looked in that thread, but it seems to be more just a list of all the available modems rather than a discussion as to which ones are the best. Yes, best is subjective, but I would have thought that even though there are dozens of modems available, most people are using the same half dozen or so.
I guess what I am after is an updated version of this poll;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=876391
Back then it seemed JL2 was a runaway winner. No idea if that is still the case? I doubt it.