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Is there any other modem i can use with an i9000 ROM besides the UGJK3? I have always had and am still having issues with that modem.
ya.. it's called PLEASE POST QUESTIONS IN THE Q&A PART OF THE CAPTIVATE FORUM. THIS FORUM IS MADE FOR DEVELOPERS TO TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT REGARDING ROMS/KERNELS/ETC.
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ya.. it's called PLEASE POST QUESTIONS IN THE Q&A PART OF THE CAPTIVATE FORUM. THIS FORUM IS MADE FOR DEVELOPERS TO TALK ABOUT DEVELOPMENT REGARDING ROMS/KERNELS/ETC.
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typical........
if it's so typical then you shouldn't have posted it in the first place how about you use the nice little search button.
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Is there any other modem i can use with an i9000 ROM besides the UGJK3? I have always had and am still having issues with that modem.
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UGJK3 is the best i9k modem for use with the captivate. If you think its not good, you will not like the others.
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UGJK3 is the best i9k modem for use with the captivate. If you think its not good, you will not like the others.
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Thanks DG, yeah I looked at the modem sticky thread prior to posting this (modem thread is in development section by the way). I just can't seem to get a stable signal with the JK3 modem. I awaken my phone from sleep sometimes to no reception at all!
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(modem thread is in development section by the way)
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In a last ditch effort to keep the brain dead from creating threads like these.
I'm having the same issue (I've got a thread in Q&A btw). I've tried jpp and jpm and still get the same service drops. Also tried only 1900 bands with no luck. Don't what gives and why the issue is so isolated...
I hope someone gets there hands on the armani captivate rom. It is reported to have hsupa. Then we could have a fully functioning phone.
sent from sgh-i897. nonsense courtesy of swype.
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In a last ditch effort to keep the brain dead from creating threads like these.
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Uhh huh, well as I stated, I read the sticky and it only recommends the UGJK3 modem. It also states that the ones listed aren't the only by far, therefore, I was looking to developers to assist me. I appreciate those who like to help and really don't see the reason those like you choose not to. All that aside, I really was enjoying your Assurance ROM.
Well I'm going to have this thread reported to be moved.. clearly nothing development like here.. Only a person who keeps ignoring people saying this is the dev forum..
Hey all,
As the Captivate becomes more popular, I'm seeing more and more ROMs pop up. Problem is, I can't quite figure out the differences between most of them. They all seem to have the exact same features.
Currently on the front page I see:
Cognition
Perception
AXURA
Assonance
di11igaf's ROM
eSPyeL's ROM
As I look through the features, most of it looks pretty similar. So my question is, can anyone break down the key differences between the ROMs? While we're at it, maybe we can discuss the different kernels too?
This belongs in Q & A not in development please!
We need to keep this area clean for development threads only.
Regards
Ugh, sorry. I feel like a dumbass.
shaolin95 said:
This belongs in Q & A not in development please!
We need to keep this area clean for development threads only.
Regards
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Ugh, sorry. I feel like a dumbass.
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damn I m too late to flame the thread
None of the people who frequent the Q&A forums are of any help :-/
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damn I m too late to flame the thread
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Of course you are too late, look, that other guys has flames in his sig, you know he means business when flaming! lol
Anyway, read the OP on each rom, they all have different things
To the Q&A!!
Thecoolestcow has a good point... plus 90% of the posts in the dev threads are 'omg I can't wait'/'hey good job'/'wah wah im a noob' .
Seriously...1000 pages on a dev thread... that's beyond useless.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I897 using XDA App
More effective thread locking please.
Could we have something besides community flaming to deter the junk posters?
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None of the people who frequent the Q&A forums are of any help :-/
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I make it a point to come to Q&A and try and help.
The problem is the overwhelming number of ZOMG WUT DU I DOOOO threads that push valid questions down to oblivion.
410 views and nobody has answered his question.
As far as I know (which may contain incorrect information), each rom is built off the same base rom. There are captivate based frameworks and i9000 based frameworks. Then there are kernels and models.
Some roms emphasize stability, they do not use the latest overclocked kernels, they stick to stock filesystems etc. Other roms emphasize the latest breakthroughs in Galaxy S modifications (1200-1600mhz OC/UV, speedtweaks, filesystem changes). Another rom may emphasize reduced-bloat, everything is stock but theres no crapware. And on top of it all, everyone mixes and matches kernels and modems (but most are on JK3 and i9000 Kernels, though most use SeitroN's and DG has his own). On top of all that, developers apply themes that they like (all of which you can customize yourself).
I hope that helped. I haven't researched deeply into each rom, but this is just what I've deducted.
I had always thought that I897 was captivate, and I9000 was all other Galaxy S phones. But I have a captivate that lists its "model number" as GT-I9000, and see here that captivate users are installing I9000 ROMs. Am I wrong about the difference?
Not development.
Captivate = i897
Galaxy S = i9000
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I had always thought that I897 was captivate, and I9000 was all other Galaxy S phones. But I have a captivate that lists its "model number" as GT-I9000, and see here that captivate users are installing I9000 ROMs. Am I wrong about the difference?
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as mikey said, this isn't development related.
you are merely installing i9000 ROM's with reoriented kernels.
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as mikey said, this isn't development related.
you are merely installing i9000 ROM's with reoriented kernels.
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As they both said - what part of development does this fall under?!
I've noticed something around here at XDA that is really kind of odd to me. Whenever a new guy comes here and posts a thread not knowing that it isn't the right thread to post on. There's always the "too cool" attitude thrown out by a few. I know that XDA is here to help others and think that maybe instead of posting smartass replies that maybe an answer to the question and a point in the right direction would be the best thing to help a noob out. I've learned more from the great guys here at XDA (ADAMHOLDEN85, MIKEYMIKE01, KIZZMIAZZ, ZELENDEL, EXTREMEKILLA09, TSACHI) from their positive attitudes and direction than I've learned from any other forum. Keep it welcome here guys.
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I've noticed something around here at XDA that is really kind of odd to me. Whenever a new guy comes here and posts a thread not knowing that it isn't the right thread to post on. There's always the "too cool" attitude thrown out by a few. I know that XDA is here to help others and think that maybe instead of posting smartass replies that maybe an answer to the question and a point in the right direction would be the best thing to help a noob out. I've learned more from the great guys here at XDA (ADAMHOLDEN85, MIKEYMIKE01, KIZZMIAZZ, ZELENDEL, EXTREMEKILLA09, TSACHI) from their positive attitudes and direction than I've learned from any other forum. Keep it welcome here guys.
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^ Amen to that!
yeah, for real, it only takes one guy to correct the miss placed thread and a mod to move it. and you can correct a person and be helpful at the same time.
to the op, if the captivate is saying gt -i9000 on a splash screen on startup or on your computer when plugged in to usb then it is a modded i9000 kernel installed, this is very common because the source code for the i9000 was realeased long before the captivate and things like overclock and color fixes could be baked in. a lack of source on the captivate meant that either you ran 2.1, ran 2.2 basically stock or you used an i9000 kernel to get all the good stuff. if it says i9000 in about phone or in apps then you have an i9000 rom and the build.prop was not changed.
to be clear the att captivate is the i897, the armani is the i9010 the rogers is the i896 and the chinese version is the i9088. the i897 and i896 are identical aside from the rom, the armani has a different battery door and maybe darker plastic, i haven't seen one up close. the chinese version may have other difference like less ram.
the i9000 is sold in many countries and is the real galaxy s. it has a forward facing camera. it is sold in many countries and has several versions including the i9000m and i9000b, the b has an antenna to pickup live digital hd tv and is sold in brazil
the i500 is the fascinate and the mezmerize in the us and is cdma.
the t959 is the vibrant in the us and the t959d is the facinate in canada. these are the closest relatives to the captivates but look more like a i9000.
then there is the epic, i dont remember the model of it but it has a forward facing camera and a slide out keyboard. it is cdma and i think do to the stock software, that it is an epic piece of crap!
there are others now such as the nexus s i9020 which is a google dev phone and has aosp gingerbread, and the indulge which isn't quite a galaxy s but does have the hummingbird chip and adds a keyboard and lte data network
Couldn't have said it better. The same reason why I waited so long to push into the custom side. Sick of the attitude on here(for the most part). Am I new to android or XDA for that matter? Maybe. But I am not stupid and I don't deserve to be treated like I am. Anyways...
Longer story short...I resorted to learning by a q&a session with one of the nicer devs. And by the end of a couple pm's back and forth, I was flashing my first rom with no problems.
A little kindness can go a long way people..
I agree. Calm down folks. Everyone makes mistakes especially whe they are new to something. I'm new to and posted a few questions in the Q&A section but some people act totally anal in response there. Need more people like the nice dev's who are patient and calm with their users.
Wheres the moral fiber thread?
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yeah, for real, it only takes one guy to correct the miss placed thread and a mod to move it. and you can correct a person and be helpful at the same time.
to the op, if the captivate is saying gt -i9000 on a splash screen on startup or on your computer when plugged in to usb then it is a modded i9000 kernel installed, this is very common because the source code for the i9000 was realeased long before the captivate and things like overclock and color fixes could be baked in. a lack of source on the captivate meant that either you ran 2.1, ran 2.2 basically stock or you used an i9000 kernel to get all the good stuff. if it says i9000 in about phone or in apps then you have an i9000 rom and the build.prop was not changed.
to be clear the att captivate is the i897, the armani is the i9010 the rogers is the i896 and the chinese version is the i9088. the i897 and i896 are identical aside from the rom, the armani has a different battery door and maybe darker plastic, i haven't seen one up close. the chinese version may have other difference like less ram.
the i9000 is sold in many countries and is the real galaxy s. it has a forward facing camera. it is sold in many countries and has several versions including the i9000m and i9000b, the b has an antenna to pickup live digital hd tv and is sold in brazil
the i500 is the fascinate and the mezmerize in the us and is cdma.
the t959 is the vibrant in the us and the t959d is the facinate in canada. these are the closest relatives to the captivates but look more like a i9000.
then there is the epic, i dont remember the model of it but it has a forward facing camera and a slide out keyboard. it is cdma and i think do to the stock software, that it is an epic piece of crap!
there are others now such as the nexus s i9020 which is a google dev phone and has aosp gingerbread, and the indulge which isn't quite a galaxy s but does have the hummingbird chip and adds a keyboard and lte data network
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Isn't the Nexus S actually made by Samsung,too?
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task650 said:
I've noticed something around here at XDA that is really kind of odd to me. Whenever a new guy comes here and posts a thread not knowing that it isn't the right thread to post on. There's always the "too cool" attitude thrown out by a few. I know that XDA is here to help others and think that maybe instead of posting smartass replies that maybe an answer to the question and a point in the right direction would be the best thing to help a noob out. I've learned more from the great guys here at XDA (ADAMHOLDEN85, MIKEYMIKE01, KIZZMIAZZ, ZELENDEL, EXTREMEKILLA09, TSACHI) from their positive attitudes and direction than I've learned from any other forum. Keep it welcome here guys.
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Couldn't have said it better myself!
Has anyone tried Cognition 4.2.2 with different kernals and modems yet? I'm currently running 4.1.1 with Speedmod's latest and KP1, and getting excellent battery life... though I notice the phone sometimes lags a bit.
I love the features and overall smoothness of Cognition, but I changed out the modem (to JK4, and then to KP1) and kernal on 4.1.1 because it was killing my battery, and it was a pretty laggy, too. I've been singularly unimpressed with KB1.
Try the Cognition sticky at the top of the forum, where this should have been posted.
The moderator is quite free to move the thread if its placement is a problem... but I've noticed on far more than one occasion that questions specific to various ROMs, be they technical or concerned with more general matters, have been asked in the general Q and A section.
Which is why I asked here, and not in the Sticky, which doesn't always get perused by the larger population.
Using the KB1 modem with Overstock kernal. All features work, call quality and signal are amazing, bluetooth is clear, and I can get about 37 hours out of my battery from 100% charge with normal usage.
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The moderator is quite free to move the thread if its placement is a problem... but I've noticed on far more than one occasion that questions specific to various ROMs, be they technical or concerned with more general matters, have been asked in the general Q and A section.
Which is why I asked here, and not in the Sticky, which doesn't always get perused by the larger population.
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The moderators created those stickies for exactly this purpose, which you defeat by thinking you deserve personalized attention in your own thread.
Please use the Q&A stickies for Rom related questions instead of opening new threads.
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Since we now have an official GB build for our LG-P925, i really think this forum should be cleaned up and all the builds that are built from LG-P920 GB Base should be removed. Since they are not actually for our device.
Does anybody agree?
Sent from my LG-P925 using xda premium
Please. Get out of the development section.
EDIT: No. I do not agree. It's literally the SAME device. Open one up. Check the "P925" label that's underneath it.
And no. It's not that is:
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Since they are not actually for our device.
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It's that there are other carriers in this world that exist. Besides AT&T and all.
Now tell me.
Q: If there wasn't the international version or the P920 ROMs were "banished" from our Device section, do you really think I'd still be here?
A: NO. AT&T is worthless. For the fact that they'd like to bloat everything and put restrictions and whatnot.
Conclusion?
Leave it as is.
EDIT 2: End rant. Every developer needs to have one of these. xD
One can only be nice for so long.
Dude dont be a duche. A mod will move when they see fit. And by the way great work on your roms.
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I'd say no. They are compatible with our thrill, its the same phone.
Rogers Canada uses the P925 but calls it by its official LG name, the optimus 3d.
Should the forums be combined?
Probably. If you're willing to modify your phone with a custom ROM then you should be able to change apns and all that good stuff. Why should we keep it seperate thus making it harder for users to find a good ROM?
The average USA user isnt going to search for the optimus 3d forum.
Do you think the optimus 3d mods should get rid of roms that were made from a LG thrill dev?
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Dude dont be a duche. A mod will move when they see fit. And by the way great work on your roms.
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It's not that I'm being a "douche"
It's that you straight up ignored a PINNED thread.
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poyensa said:
MOD EDIT: BEFORE POSTING ANY THREAD IN THE DEVELOPMENT SECTION, PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING:
If you have developed a ROM, or are working with others to do so, the development forum is somewhere to discuss and share ideas, post useful feedback and logs or crash dumps, and to discuss a common goal developers are trying to achieve.
It is NOT the place to post your question because it gets higher traffic, or because more experienced users frequent it. Doing this just annoys those who are working on the device, and drives them away. Developers don't want to wade through 20 threads of "Help me urgently" to find their threads for porting and fixing camera issues etc. Similarly, if a thread is designated as discussion for developers say, porting a camera fix, please do not post in there asking "When will it be ready?", "Can I flash this yet?" etc. This is both completely disrespectful to those working on the project (you evidently haven't read the important posts in the thread), and also is making it harder for developers to find comments from other developers or testers when required.
Similarly, don't make loads of "Thanks for your work here" posts in an active development thread. It's just as annoying to developers as asking when something will be ready. If a ROM is complete, then go ahead and thank the developer if you wish, but don't go into threads for devs only, and interrupt it to post "thanks". It's basically spamming, and is treated as such.
If you are posting in development, you should have read every sticky and notice there, and should be actively developing or helping in the development of something. Developing isn't installing a ROM, or using a tweak, it's creating a ROM or other hack or tweak. If you haven't read for several days before starting out on XDA, you are likely about to ask something already solved. I registered on XDA when I first wanted to post, and that was to join in a discussion on something. Sure, join up and ask a question, but read the information available in General and Q&A first, as your question will have been asked before. Search is your friend here, become familiar with it.
Regarding when to post in development if you are not actually developing something, there is one occasion where it's acceptable. If you find a leak of a new ROM, which isn't already posted, and you verify it's legitimacy via either running it, or based on the source you obtained it from, then this is assisting in development, and should be posted in development. If you want to ask when a leak will be available use search first, then if not already in discussion, open a thread in general or Q&A.
If you have a problem flashing a ROM, this is NOT related to development. It's up to you to determine if it is specific to a particular ROM, and post useful information in that developer's existing thread for the ROM. If it happens on more than one ROM, and isn't a known issue (remember you should read several times more words than you post), then find out what you are doing wrong. Check guides written by others, try to repeat the problem and see if it happens every time. Something needs to be reproducible to be fixed effectively.
Once you have identified what you need help with go to the device Q&A forum (general if device lacks one), and make a clear, informative thread that explains the issue, and what you have tried doing to fix it. Did you re-download the ROM? Did you ask a friend to flash it for you, to reduce chance of user error? What steps (exactly) did you follow? What errors did you see (exact wording)? Did you double check all the steps? Did you do a wipe or hard reset?
If you make a clear, concise, yet detailed post, you will find help forthcoming, and should get the problem sorted very quickly. If someone suggests you try something, report back on what happened, did it work etc. Then, next time someone has this issue and searches, they will find this and have a verified and tested solution.
So remember... before you start a thread in development, ask yourself what you are developing. If you can't answer, then stop, step away from the post button, and think about where you are posting. Would it be better in General or Q&A, or is some more time with your best friend, search, required?
Regards,
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Someone lock this obnoxious idiots thread, if it weren't for half the O3D Devs, we'd never had a Temporary GB Baseband.
Do a quick favor for me, go back to when you joined XDA and watch the n00b video, I think there's a few things you didn't pay any attention to!
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Ok well obviously no one can see the obvious that the 920 based GB roms all pretty much run like crap on our 925. And also the fact that none of the GB based kernels made previous to v20p are not compatible with v20p, why have a forum full of roms that really arent made for our phone and that are borked
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Oh let me point out this is the LG Thrill 4G forum (LG-P925) not (LG-P920)
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Oh let me point out this is the LG Thrill 4G forum (LG-P925) not (LG-P920)
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Alright. No more BioHazard? Enjoy a ROMless device.
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And let me point out that the P920 and P925 are pretty much the same phone. Quoted from Engadget's review of the Thrill 4G:
Talk about a spitting image of the LG Optimus 3D. Don't get us wrong, we were expecting the Thrill 4G to be incredibly similar to its global counterpart, of course -- we just didn't believe it would be that close. We expect US carriers to take a handset popular in other parts of the world, tweak its design, change the UI and essentially turn it into a completely different phone. Interestingly enough, we found it difficult to find any significant variations at all between the twins aside from a few minor adjustments.
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and
Reviewing the Thrill 4G was essentially a complete rehash of the LG Optimus 3D, with the obvious exception of AT&T branding and price ($100 with a two-year commitment).
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Or, look at the specs of the P925 and the P920 and tell me what major differences you can find.
The Dark Lestat dont get so upset seriously dude, like your roms were great dont get me wrong. Buuuut, your 2.0 and 2.1 versions honestly were crap, the new v20p completely satisfies my taste and runs way smoother than your 2.xx versions. So by all means leave if you want to. Thanks for your time while you were here though dude. v20p has made this phone is usable until the Samsung Galaxy III comes out. These are just my opinions im not speaking for ghe whole community here The Dark Lestat.
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The Dark Lestat dont get so upset seriously dude, like your roms were great dont get me wrong. Buuuut, your 2.0 and 2.1 versions honestly were crap, the new v20p completely satisfies my taste and runs way smoother than your 2.xx versions. So by all means leave if you want to. Thanks for your time while you were here though dude. v20p has made this phone is usable until the Samsung Galaxy III comes out. These are just my opinions im not speaking for ghe whole community here The Dark Lestat.
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I know. I'm not actually leaving. That's essentially what it would be like. NO DEVELOPMENT for the Thrill except for bedwa.
As for 2.0 and 2.1, I posted a fix already.
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So, you would alienate a superb developer on behalf of the whole P925 community just because v20p satisfies *your* tastes? That's the textbook definition of selfishness.
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I know. I'm not actually leaving. That's essentially what it would be like. NO DEVELOPMENT for the Thrill except for bedwa.
As for 2.0 and 2.1, I posted a fix already.
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Believe it or not. Urabewe is teetering on the idea of coming out with the next edition of doomed roms based on this new official gb. So count him as a dev still...
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Believe it or not. Urabewe is teetering on the idea of coming out with the next edition of doomed roms based on this new official gb. So count him as a dev still...
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That's legit. I really hope this place is flooded with devs. I really do.
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The v20c base band is the same as the one released in the new gb v20p so essentially its the same except bloatware. I'm on att using v20c with 2.1. And I absolutely don't understand how someone could Complain about. Its flawless, and if not maybe your doing something wrong. I have so many options, overclock, themes ect . With v20c I am finally happy with this phone. Everyone else should be too!
Sent from my LG-P920 using XDA
Thanks again lestat!
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The v20c base band is the same as the one released in the new gb v20p so essentially its the same except bloatware. I'm on att using v20c with 2.1. And I absolutely don't understand how someone could Complain about. Its flawless, and if not maybe your doing something wrong. I have so many options, overclock, themes ect . With v20c I am finally happy with this phone. Everyone else should be too!
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Obviously you dont know what your talking about because v20c and v20p are totally different. You cant use any existing kernels on v20p, the result is a phone with no cell signal and you cant even open apn settings. Also if no one has noticed yet v20p does have new features, one ive noticed is when you receive a text message at when phone is locked there is a cool text message pop up icon now in the middle of the lock screen that you can press snd slide down to unlock straight to messages, also if you use the built in email app its the same thing, also with a missed call.
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I agree with akwhite, V20c is the best stock ROM to base off of; v20p is almost the same but loaded with AT&T annoyances such as the name in the notification bar. I just loaded v20p to see how it was, but it's obvious v20c is the way to go. Rogers seems to be alot better at keeping their branding less obtrusive and more removable. V20p and v20c are pretty much the same.
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Oh let me point out this is the LG Thrill 4G forum (LG-P925) not (LG-P920)
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Be reminded that Half of BioHazard is built ORIGINALLY off the O3D in general specifically because the very first GB Baseband mostly changes the device name and overruns software in order to put our device on possibly the first US/EU Baseband portable to the Thrill.
Yes! This is the "Thrill" forums and if I'm not correct the O3D was advertised FIRST and the most in Europe, it wasn't til a month later that the device WE call the Thrill wad advertised. Most Optimus models made are mainly for Europe! This making our device a European output device Originally based on P920. I'm beginning to think the reason for the long GB Official wait was because LG wanted to bug out the early released European GB.
Look at the facts of most European devices, half of our Mobile devices are based off them.
You slowly seem like you not even care for BioHazard. The first working GB ROM made mostly for Thrill in order to make a break and give us at least some 4G Speed & Signal.
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