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Hello fellow Kaiser users,
I don't know if this happened only with me or others have experienced the same.
TyTN II keys on the QWERTY after a year of use has some keys responding after the 2nd or 3rd stroke of the key.
Did anyone else experience this?
Is there a solution?
It is really bugging me when I'm typing an SMS or typing something down.
Any suggestions are appreciated.
Hardware suggestions also I will try on my own risk.
fireblade63 said:
TyTN II keys on the QWERTY after a year of use has some keys responding after the 2nd or 3rd stroke of the key.
Did anyone else experience this?
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Same problem here, but I started noticing it after 4/5 months of use. Would like to know about a solution also.
I feel your pain, this is what is really killing me because the keyboard is a very big part of the phone, and I've only been using it for 7 months. If i knew it would become this unresponsive i would of got an i phone because this phones on screen keyboard and transcriber is useless.
It happened to me after 7 months. The "c" key on my tilt started to become unresponsive so I called up at&t and had it warranty exchanged for a refurb. This second one was already even worse than the one I'd just sent back, so I had them send out another one. This third one is fine, although the "c" key (again, oddly enough) doesn't click like the others. It's responsive, but feels a little different. I didn't feel like going through the exchange process again, so for now I'm living with it.
My 1 month old refurb tilt doesn't type the keys when I press them sometimes. I should have that fixed. I thought it was a software problem...
My brand new XPS M1530 does the same thing sometimes. I guess I reckoned it was just me not pressing on the keys hard enough or something like that...
So I'm not the only one with the problem...
But no solution?!
Even a hint of what might be causing this would help..
have you guys tried using the disable XT9 cab ?
yes
I think it is H/W cleaning related
How to clean is the deal...
you can find disassembling guides on mikechannon's web. just follow the disassembling instructions and after you remove keyboard, try cleaning it.
Same problem for me.
I'm always very carefull with my device, and don't use the hardware keyboard very often.
Now for some letters I really have to press harder to make them work.
I have my device for only 6 or 7 months.
Have had my Kaiser for 6 months now and the Y and B keys are starting to go out. For the past couple weeks I have been considering sending it in for warranty exchange but I have taken very good care of my Kaiser and worry about what I would get back...
Anyone eager enough tried disasembling and cleaning?
Moreover, did it work?
funny thing here is that I get more unresponsiveness in the right side of the keyboard (enter; L; P; direction keys).
It is a real pain...
Most prolly will do it soon
Will let you all know of the outcome
Same here.
Had mine 8 months, the W key is worst, takes a really heavy press to get it to work, has been like that for about 5 months.
Now the B is also getting bad, so is the S.
If i'm likely to get a refurb back i guess i'll just put up with it until my contract is up.
I'm facing the same problem on my HTC herald. HTC keyboard quality has gone way down. I never faced such problem when I had htc universal.
Hey man,
since you had quite some ppls share of PPCs;
did you disassemble any of them before?
Do you think it's a good idea to do it myself?
I'm extra careful normally but I'm having doubts
kdskamal said:
I'm facing the same problem on my HTC herald. HTC keyboard quality has gone way down. I never faced such problem when I had htc universal.
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Similar problems here with my Tilt. FN, CAP/SHIFT, N are all problematic for me.
Has anyone tried a spray liquid electronic "contact cleaner" on a device like this before?
Weird
Oddly enough, I have had this problem a little bit with mine as well. However mine is the space bar. I, like many others I am sure, have hopped from ROM to ROM. When I changed ROMs the last time, it seemed to fix the issue. It was really weird because a lot of the times I would type something, and the letters would turn out something like this:
Iw antt oe at atj oes.
Like I said, I just swapped ROMs and it seemed to fix it. maybe the t9?
killerbeans said:
Oddly enough, I have had this problem a little bit with mine as well. However mine is the space bar. I, like many others I am sure, have hopped from ROM to ROM. When I changed ROMs the last time, it seemed to fix the issue. It was really weird because a lot of the times I would type something, and the letters would turn out something like this:
Iw antt oe at atj oes.
Like I said, I just swapped ROMs and it seemed to fix it. maybe the t9?
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You are correct sir! Just run "disable xt9" (found plenty of places on the kaiser forum) and your problem should be fixed.
I too have had this problem. I noticed it with the d, r, and space bar keys. Interestingly enough the keys that i press often (Take A for example [I have it mapped to the A button in PocketNesterPlus]) aren't hard to press at all. What I'm trying right now is pressing the problem keys over and over again to see if they "loosen up". Best Case Scenario: It works. Worst Case Scenario: I ruin an expensive piece of equipment.
Update: This might be working. To test which keys were unresponsive i typed abcdefghijklmnop.... without exerting any extra effort. The keys w and r didn't show up so i kept working them. I repeated the test and I got r to work. perhaps i am unknowingly pressing r harder, or perhaps not.
Hi
This I think this is a weird one I'll try and explain the best I can:
A few days ago I noticed my Diamonds' touch screen was playing up, i.e whenever I pressed the screen somewhere it either a) took ages to register the touch or b) registered it in the wrong place.
I thought this was a software issue so thought I would try to re-align the touchscreen using the WinMo inbuilt tool. However I coudn't do that as it wasn't registering my key press on the start button. So I hard reset it and went through the config procedure.
Everything seemed to go OK and I felt relieved, the screen felt accurate again...BUT having used the device a little more it didn't quite feel right, it felt a bit slow to respond still (when compared to normal operation of a week ago).
I then noticed that I couldn't change my soft keyboard type when composing a text message (you normally can change this by click the keyboard icon on the bottom bar) and other apps e.g calendar etc, my keypress either didn't register or ended up being recognised a a press on the soft keys to the left or right e.g send/cancel. I thought that was a bit strange but made it worse was that on the odd occasion I did get it to register but not with any consistency.
I then experimented with other apps such as Opera which has another button on that part of the screen, that seems to be fine (albeit a bit slow).
So again i though it was a software problem, but now I'm not so sure...I've flashed with Hard SPL and a couple of the cooked roms (SwiftBL and Dutty), and tried a few different SPL's and the problem still persists. I have since reverted to the latest official Vodafone UK rom with a stock 1.37 SPL. Still the same result though.
Now here comes the tricky bit, I bought the Diamond off ebay a couple of months ago (it is the Vodafone UK version, is boxed but no voda receipt) as Vodafone wouldn't let me have one unless I was on a business contract. Like I said I don't have the Voda receipt.
Could it be the Touch screen has malfunctioned?
Are there any strange software bugs that could be causing this.
What are my chances of geting it fixed on warranty?
I need help desperately as I love the phone but now I have found the longer I leave it after aligning the screen the worse the touchscreen response gets so it becomes unuseable. I don't want to pay for a costly repair either.
All help and sugesstions appreciated.
Dalyboy
Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.
might be "m2d" not compatible ... hair wired ..
I wonder ..whether we can install window CE from pc to h/p through usb link ...
"Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts"
r u using original usb cable ..b'cos now a day I saw many only using normal "small" usb cable head which easily spoil the connector at phone ... too loose for that sharp..
l3urton32 said:
Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.
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Go to Start/Settings/System/Clear Storage
and your usb is probably whack
@kaiserII...your usb is whack, haha. that **** made me laugh.
having same exact issue
ya it happened to me sunday night, having exact same problem. keyboard doesnt work, and my front buttons dont work exept for the the center button which ends up opening the start menu (wrong command). Im over my 1 year warrenty and not sure what to do. Had to buy a cheap 40 dollar nokia for the time being, please help if someone can. Oh and I did a hard reset, and it didnt fix anything. Booted android with it and 1 out of 5 times the buttons came back, this is really weird/vexing.
l3urton32 said:
Ok, this might be the first real problem I've had with my tilt, in a sense that I have no freakin clue what happened or how to fix it. The front buttons on the tilt as well as my keyboard decided they wanted to stop working and I have no clue how to bring them back... let me start from the beginning.
I installed m2d about 2 weeks ago, its kind of laggy but I'm still impressed with the overall UI as it compliments the tilt. Some bugs started popping up here and there but through the forum I was able to make it run relatively smoothly. Last night my tilt wouldn't connect to my computer, the usb contacts might have gone bad or something, it only works when I put pressure on the cable to keep the contacts together. Than today my screen would wake up for no reason, with no programs or application running in the front or background of the device. It was annoying to say the least. Than I got my first text of the day and went to respond using the actual keyboard, no dice. No response from the keyboard. So as Im typing using the stylus I tried to delete something, and the backspace button on the touch keypad isn't working, so more problems. I want to try and hard reset the device to see if that fixes the problem, but since I can't use the hard buttons on the front of the device I can't hard reset (the scroll wheel, ptt, and ok buttons aren't working either) Is this anything anyone has ever heard of? My tilt is kind of battered after a year of use, but nothing significant has happened within the last month to make me think that something inside came loose, especially since this just started today and it was just sitting on my table all night. I appreciate any and all help. Thanks in advance.
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Exactly the same thing has happened to me!! Coming on randomly, draining the battery really quickly and the same keys doing the same things as yours i.e. nothing or Start menu. The backspace and space don't work on the on-screen keyboard either. Is it the end of the road or has anyone the slightest idea what the hell to do!?!?!?
Same issue but slightly different
2 days ago I started hearing a noise from my phone that was not something I normally hear. After checking my phone I found out it was the voice recorder program opening up on its own. It started repeatedly doing this and recording automatically. I had to hold down the close option (X) and before it would stop. AFter a reset and when the phone wakes up it always does this now. Along with all these whacky problems my hard buttons stopped working. My scroll wheel and D-pad sometimes work and only the up, down, left and right arrows work on the keyboard. Camera button seems to work sometimes also. All others have stopped responding. Except for holding the power key. I just reflashed my phone to latest phoenix ROM and problem is the same. Is this it for the phone or is there a fix.
Anyone??? Please!!
Try this free fix
I had the same problem as the original poster. My fix was to download AE Button Plus trial and use it to reset my keys to their original setting. I did not have to do the keyboard, just the external keys. Now my tilt works like it used to.
This fixed the problem when clear storage and reloading roms did not.
It doesn't hurt to try since the trial is free.
Good Luck,
Will
same here... help pls...
any one yet has found a solution for this issue??? 2days ago my Kaiser suddenly started with same problems, buttons dont work and the recorder goes on, any one yet found a way to fix it??? thanks...
I have no idea if this will actually help anyone but I installed japanese input on my kaiser once and during the process a registry got edited that stopped my hardware keyboard and the hardware keys (front keys) from working and the fix was to correct the value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010411]
edit the 0010411 value to "00000409"
again I have no idea if this will help but it wouldnt hurt to check to see if the registry somehow got changed. Goodluck and I hope you guys figure it out.
didnt work...
dantegl36 said:
I have no idea if this will actually help anyone but I installed japanese input on my kaiser once and during the process a registry got edited that stopped my hardware keyboard and the hardware keys (front keys) from working and the fix was to correct the value:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010411]
edit the 0010411 value to "00000409"
again I have no idea if this will help but it wouldnt hurt to check to see if the registry somehow got changed. Goodluck and I hope you guys figure it out.
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thanks anyways "dantegl36" but it didnt work...
I have the same issue
This is intresting, I just posted on this, as I am having the same issue, which of course just started a few days ago. I have the updated UI as well but I installed it as well.
Any idea how to fix it??
keyboard fix "edfc" problem
yes , kaiser tweak slide wake disabled ...it OK
Greetings from Olsztyn Poland
Unfortunately, the problem returned it was only a temporary improvement, sorry
For my tytn2 after rom upgrade, the front buttons do not respond except the central one. the side buttons are responding under the win only but in the bootloader screen they don't respond. and I cannot make a hard reset.
I did a hard reset through the setting menu but still the problem has not been solved. Adding on that the keyboard doesn't work except the arrow keys.
Do anyone can figure a solution for that. except the hardware problem bec I am out of warranty.
Did anyone was able to solve the problem fully?
oo wow, i have the same problem. hope theres a fix
adding to that the the bluetooth is turnino on by itself even if I switched it off and the device by itself after time of switching it off it refuse to start again unless I did a soft reset.
I tried all the avilabe suggestion but nothing worked.
Hiya
This seems to be a problem with the TyTn II - there are several threads in this forum about it, none of which have any working solutions that I ever found...
I spent ages trying different ROMS, Radios and pressing of buttons and haven't found a solution - other than to disown the TyTn II and get another phone! I did pick it up again the other day and it is still refusing to have working buttons or keyboard (as reported by others, only the central buttons seems to work all the time as a Start Menu button).
I did manage to stop it eating battery at a ridiculous rate by turning it to specific radio settings rather than letting it find its own GPRS/ 3G and phone band. I think it was in this thread
I was considering sending my TynTn II to HTC, but I'm not sure it's going to be worth the postage and their service fees as I've already replaced it with a Touch Pro 2. Then again if we ALL sent them in, they might acknowledge some sort of problem with this model.
samstables said:
Hiya
This seems to be a problem with the TyTn II - there are several threads in this forum about it, none of which have any working solutions that I ever found...
I spent ages trying different ROMS, Radios and pressing of buttons and haven't found a solution - other than to disown the TyTn II and get another phone! I did pick it up again the other day and it is still refusing to have working buttons or keyboard (as reported by others, only the central buttons seems to work all the time as a Start Menu button).
I did manage to stop it eating battery at a ridiculous rate by turning it to specific radio settings rather than letting it find its own GPRS/ 3G and phone band. I think it was in this thread
I was considering sending my TynTn II to HTC, but I'm not sure it's going to be worth the postage and their service fees as I've already replaced it with a Touch Pro 2. Then again if we ALL sent them in, they might acknowledge some sort of problem with this model.
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can I know how did u mange to change the rom? bec even my side buttons refuse to work whenever I am at the bootloader screen and the upgrade through the active sync failed.
I won't complain about the cracks, or the recessed screen, or even the slow speed (especially video playback, otherwise its good enough). I mean every device has it's own pros and cons. I like my X1, but what I am most dissapoinded in it, is the keyboard. I bought this device for his qwerty keyboard, and it is not very convenient. Ok than I can get used to it, but it started to have keys which need to be pressed really hard to get the letter from it. And that is really annoying and make my KB much slower for writing.
So how do you find your X1 KB? Do you have the already standard KB problem - some buttons needs to be pressed hard, other just get the double letter?
Do you find the TP1 and TP2 keyboards more convenient? Anyone testing omnia pro (the sliding version)?
In the end I'll either clean the KB by myself, or take it to SE for warrany (once the buttons stop working at all). But you know I had a custom SPL, so I need to revert this too. And I've spent more than $800 for this device.
No issue for me with my X1: no cracks: no double letters, no need to press hard on keyboard
The only issue: when I press on one key of the keyboard, it take a little time for the letter to appears on the screen... (sometime, the last letter of a word become the first letter of the next word...)
One of the things that steered me toward the X1 was the hardware keyboard, but I hardly ever use at all. It's like brand new.
I'm glad I don't rely on it judging by some of the posts on here with all the drama it can cause.
Installing the xt9 software and using sktool to make it the default after a reboot etc more or less made my hardware keyboard redundant. Occasionally I'll use it, but not often.
It is perfect for me. Works flawlessly, never had any issues with it, very convenient and comfortable.
I had the same problem.
some keys needed to be pressed real hard, while others place 2 letters.
So i went back to the store.
First time they cleaned the inside.
still...
Second they replaced the KB and the cabel that connects it to the processor.
still..
third time they send it to Sony ericsson, where multiple parts we're replaced.
still..
at that moment i got took a insurance at the store, this was possible because it was testes bij SE.
and with this insurance, i got a new one from the store^^
so my problem is solved.. for now..
Same here...no probs at all...very smooth.
gargoyle_g45 said:
I had the same problem.
some keys needed to be pressed real hard, while others place 2 letters.
So i went back to the store.
First time they cleaned the inside.
still...
Second they replaced the KB and the cabel that connects it to the processor.
still..
third time they send it to Sony ericsson, where multiple parts we're replaced.
still..
at that moment i got took a insurance at the store, this was possible because it was testes bij SE.
and with this insurance, i got a new one from the store^^
so my problem is solved.. for now..
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Man, I really hope my X1 won't be so tough to fix. It was working flawlessly for the first 6-7 months, but then I start having th KB issues.
no problem for me
but guess if one use it around dust and high humidity dust could
turn into dirt layers which could cause what you seem to exp
sometimes the fn button/the blue one doesnt work but the keyboard on the x2 actually looks proper but yea the keyboard isnt great is it
biggest dissapointment would be... the recessed screen.
besides that, it's a considerable phone for all day use.
i have had the keyboard problem on 2 of the 3 x1s i have had. hoping when mine comes back from repair it is sorted. although the keyboard is very annoying and slows writing down alot, its the cracks that really rune the x1 as a phone (in the sense that even if u get it fix its very likely to crack again. every times this happens u have to send the handset back to repair which take 2+ weeks).
odd I only had 1
Rudegar said:
odd I only had 1
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2 replacements from because of cracking
9+ months with the same device . No problemos (hardware lol).
I also had the kb problems... at first it is only the space bar... since the space bar is long.. i cannot trigger the space bar efficiently using my right hand.. sometimes it double taps and sometimes it doesn't tap... so i switch to pressing the spacebar with left hand...
then the "." key.. most often times it double presses... then i lost my phone...
(guess what) i still bought an x1... as of 1 week. the kb still doesn't show up..
My friend Ada got this phone and she told me that sometimes when she wanted to use KB, the screen just stopped and she had to wait for some time until the screen made the reaction...
when i first got my phone and started to use it, i was really dissappointed with just about everything... but in the end, it turned out to be a pretty good phone.
i was looking to get the tp2 for its bigger screen but i dont think i would like it without the scroll pad. plus i didnt want to buy another phone with just a bigger screen and same specs.
in the end... no need to upgrade when the x1a that i have is doing everything that i need it to do.
i have the exact same problem...
my only 3 keys that seem to get...stuck all the time are the I O P
sometimes even the backspace, it does get annoying, and plus if i get it to go at one hit..it would double the letters...
i guess its time to change to the x2
where do you get it repaired btw? its just that i bought my phone in indonesia unlocked, it has its warranty and everything, but i'm in canada now...do you think a carrier would want to take in that warranty?
I had the kb problems after 6 months of use as well, double/triple letters and keys were needed to be pressed harder to register. Had no warranty to get it fixed so I worked around it by installing the XT9 software.
Learned to type with the tips of my thumbs rather than at the base so the keys registered and the double keys issue was taken away because of the predictive txt. So I'm happy with my X1 despite it's kb problems hehe
hello i'm using the official latest rom from the HTC site...i have a problem with the hardware keyboard...what happens is that when i'm typing, the characters take too much time to appear on the screen and many(almost always) times characters are missing and i have to retype them...when i bought the phone it had hyperdragon III and the problem was the same but without the part "characters missing"i have tried 5-6 other roms and the problem is still not solved...does anyone know how to fix this?i am 99% sure that there is no hardware problem from the keyboard cause that would mean that some certain letters in the keyboard are broken...but in my case it happens on random letters every time...thanks in advance!
Moved as not ROM Development.
Try the speed increase .cab in this .zip
The hardware keyboards are notorious for going wrong on Kaiser.
thanks for the advice...i installed both cabs and then did a soft reset...the difference is not big and the lag keeps going but the characters missing issue got a lot better...stil not perfect...thanks so much...
That's cool glad it helped, good job you got a Tilt or your keyboard would be messed up as the other .cab is layout for keyboard Like i said the Kaiser is notorious for the keyboard gettin bad, mine i have about 5 keys i have to stomp on with thumb
really starting to feel like i have to get rid of this phone...it has so many good things but sometimes i forget i have a phone and feels like i have a really old crappy pc which freezes all the time...maybe it's the time to buy an HD2
HD2 would be nice "mind you think i'd get a Rhodium for keyboard", i use Raphael as no contract still better than Kaiser especially now have me own custom ROM rockin away
yeah i know...the keyboard is why i bought the kaiser from the first place...i had a samsung f490 and i couldn't stand it...everything was touch...i had to press a combination of touch buttons to answer a call!imagine me driving my car and trying to answer my girlfriend on the phone...so i traded it for a laptop and bought a kaiser...the reason i am going for an HD2 is because it's the fastest...i wish they could make a keyboard version...that would be really nice!
also have the lagging button syndrome! sometimes letters missing, sometimes duplicates and other times it hangs and makes 3messages full of a single character, so frustrating! now my 'g' button is broken and 'n' and 's' also dont work. but at least i have the screen keyboard to use! otherwise i love this phone! better than any other brand!
the problem is that this isn't a hardware problem...it's software for sure...sometimes the phone freezes...i'm pressing the same button like a million times and nothing happens...at that time the touch controller doesn't work either...and after some time like 5-6 seconds the phone is accepting input again like normal but with lag and with characters missing...i recall that the cabs provided solved the problem...maybe it was a coincidence or something...if it was a hardware problem i would buy a new keyboard and voila all fixed but that's not the problem...many times it misses my touch commands and even more times i have to press the power button to put the phone to sleep state and then press it again to wake it up in order to let me use touch commands again...really nice phone but not for me...i will go buy a practical phone with 60-70 euro which never freezes and doesn't even have wifi or bluetooth but at least i can type a freaking message without have to try 5 minutes to write 160 characters...i use messages a lot...like 2000-3000 messages every month and the full keyboard was the reason why i bought this thing...now it will be the reason to sell it...