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Hello, I am in need of a little help. I am a complete noob to android and have no idea really how the system works. I have a Samsung Galaxy S and have decided to root my phone for 2 reasons.. ap2sd and so I can install the lag fix. I have done a bit of reading and chosen the path I wish to take but would like some assurance and pointers. I am also unsure of: If I root my phone does this automatically mean that with a properly partitioned sd card that I can store apps 2 sd or do I still need to flash the handset with a new ROM and if so there I am stuck... I do not know where to begin with searching for the best ROM for me. Also I would like to know if after i've done this will the handset still be able to receive the official updates or will I just need to keep updating it myself!
Here is the rundown as far as i have got so far...
Samsung Galaxy S I9000/XXJF3 Updated!
All the programs for XP i need are downloaded (eg.net3.5/4, samsung drivers)
The root method I thought was best for me was that of TGA_Gunman
The lag fix I had chosen is by Chainfire
I have still to back up the original ROM with ClockWorkMod (Is this easy to do and if I need to use it will it bring me completely back to my original settings for warranty purposes, or is there other things I would need to do?)
Also could someone provide me with a link to the best noob proof SD partitioning method!!
Is there anything I'm missing here, or anything that could be done a better way!! Any and all pointers will be much appreciated....
P.s. I would be wanting to update to the official froyo update when it's available will this cause me problems and if so what must I do!
Thanks in advance
ANDROID NOOB
rooting the phone is safe, and it will not cause any damage to the phone.
but stuff that you install after you root your phone, or modifications and customization changes that you do, might brick the phone, is not done properly (that's the worse case scenario), normally it will just get stuck in a black screen, or endless loop.
All that can be easily fixed using the 3 button Recovery Mode, or 3 button Download mode as posted in the Wiki
I'll suggest you to try the phone rooted but stock with whatever firmware you choose to run.
use the "Lag Fix" only if you really feel the phone sloppy.
I've been using my phone from day one to now without the "Lag Fix" because i've not experience any lag at all.
However I do install Apps to the external SD card, as i want to keep my internal SD as free as possible.
the best link for the Lag Fix & SD card partitioning is the sticky here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
AllGamer said:
rooting the phone is safe, and it will not cause any damage to the phone.
but stuff that you install after you root your phone, or modifications and customization changes that you do, might brick the phone, is not done properly (that's the worse case scenario), normally it will just get stuck in a black screen, or endless loop.
All that can be easily fixed using the 3 button Recovery Mode, or 3 button Download mode as posted in the Wiki
I'll suggest you to try the phone rooted but stock with whatever firmware you choose to run.
use the "Lag Fix" only if you really feel the phone sloppy.
I've been using my phone from day one to now without the "Lag Fix" because i've not experience any lag at all.
However I do install Apps to the external SD card, as i want to keep my internal SD as free as possible.
the best link for the Lag Fix & SD card partitioning is the sticky here
Thanks... I understand the risks. Bricked my windows omnia twice before I successfully managed to de-brand and update it!! lol... As to what you said about rooting it and staying with whatever firmware I choose? I wouldn't know which one to use. Normally I wouldnt bother with it all but the lag on my phone now is silly, 5sec pauses on black screens. I end up having to kill my inactive apps once or twice a day just to get some usability from it (which I'm not supposed to need to do)..... So with that in mind is there a firmware that is running better that XXJF3.... Also if flashing a new ROM will be more advantageous and easier I am willing to take that route. I had a look at the link you gave for the lag fix... but being honest I feel that is a bit much for me at this moment... there are many one click lag fixes out there that don't intimidate me so much, is there not a reliable one?... The reason the lag fix you posted scares me is that I dont really understand half of whats being said and am not to sure of the process (if i'm honest it's not explained simple enough for idiots like me) Also dont even know what a busybox is let alone have one, The one click options have them in the package. Sorry, I am so dumb and need the easy route!! LOL.... A Step by step dummies guide would be much appreciated.. LOL! But honestly The more I read the more it all confuses me.....
Anxiously waiting any help possible!!... if it's possible!
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hmm.. then i'll suggest the "one click lag fix v2" in the developers forum.
that's the easiest way to get it going.
for the I9000 version JM1 seems to be the most stable ROM
I ma be following this thread as I am a noob as well
Thanks to the patient experts here!!!
Cheers!
AllGamer said:
hmm.. then i'll suggest the "one click lag fix v2" in the developers forum.
that's the easiest way to get it going.
for the I9000 version JM1 seems to be the most stable ROM
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Read some more into the problems with the lag fixes and now see why you were trying to steer me away.... Still way to many bugs for my liking!! I think for now its best like you said to just root and flash a better firmware... But how do I do this, correct me if im wrong:
1. Root phone via TGA_Gunman method
2. Back up phone using clockworkmod
3. download new firmware from samsung firmwares
4. put downloaded firmware onto root folder of internal SD
5. shut down phone then put the phone into download mode (Using the 3 buttons)
6. select the update.... then wait it out!!
Am I missing anything ???
As I side point I called the european samsung office today to ask if there was going to be a fix for the lag in the next month, or is it just the GPS it's concerned with... Samsungs response.... "There wasnt a problem with lag on the phone as far as we knew... You're the first person to complain of it... It has to be a problem with your handset"... Needless to say the conversation went no futrther, or I'd have lost the plot! LOL...
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As I side point I called the european samsung office today to ask if there was going to be a fix for the lag in the next month, or is it just the GPS it's concerned with... Samsungs response.... "There wasnt a problem with lag on the phone as far as we knew... You're the first person to complain of it... It has to be a problem with your handset"... Needless to say the conversation went no further, or I'd have lost the plot! LOL...
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Holy stitch, what BS is that? FOR ME, THERE IS DEFINITELY LAGGING THE MOMENT I BROUGHT THIS PHONE (from music player to video player to switching between apps or even opening some apps though most of the times its just minimal).
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Holy stitch, what BS is that? FOR ME, THERE IS DEFINITELY LAGGING THE MOMENT I BROUGHT THIS PHONE (from music player to video player to switching between apps or even opening some apps though most of the times its just minimal).
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Yeah I've had the same... The longer the phone is in use the slower mine gets... I'm not leaving apps in the background either... It seems as if it just piles and piles inactive apps into the memory then goes slow!! I cancel the inactive ones and It's fast for a while then BOOM!.. slow again, 5/10 screen lag! unreal they're sayin they know nothing! Just hoping that a new firmware will make it better as the lag fixes look way too buggy still! Good luck with yours.. let me know if you find out any better roots/routes to fix the dam thing!
i'll disagree with the lag
i'm still using the stock ROM on mine, and i don't experience the lags some people are having.
i can browse fast, switch apps fast, play audio/video fast, launch GPS app fast, and get a lock fast even when the car is moving on the road already
i do leave stuff like Fring running in the backgroup for my IM and video calls, meanwhile the music player plays via Bluetooth to the car Deck or BT headphones, and using GPS to check my route for speed, traffic jam, etc.
email is constantly syncing, set to auto sync every hour
if i want to check the weather it loads up instantly
using stock JH2 ROM
damdeviousduck said:
1. Root phone via TGA_Gunman method
2. Back up phone using clockworkmod
3. download new firmware from samsung firmwares
4. put downloaded firmware onto root folder of internal SD
5. shut down phone then put the phone into download mode (Using the 3 buttons)
6. select the update.... then wait it out!!
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As far as im aware you cant install a firmware using the update.zip method? this is more for custom roms and other modifications over the top of an already installed firmware?
you want to open up Odin3 and connect your phone ones in download mode, use this to flash the PDA file in your firmware pack
Using JG4. No lag. None zilch wham. I have seen the lag first hand at a local store.
I will not be installing a lag fix until I understand what they are doing so I don't be a tard (brick my phone).
AllGamer said:
i'll disagree with the lag
i'm still using the stock ROM on mine, and i don't experience the lags some people are having.
i can browse fast, switch apps fast, play audio/video fast, launch GPS app fast, and get a lock fast even when the car is moving on the road already
i do leave stuff like Fring running in the backgroup for my IM and video calls, meanwhile the music player plays via Bluetooth to the car Deck or BT headphones, and using GPS to check my route for speed, traffic jam, etc.
email is constantly syncing, set to auto sync every hour
if i want to check the weather it loads up instantly
using stock JH2 ROM
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Dont quite understand what you mean... "I'll disagree with the lag" you can't disagree with it it's there... whether you have problems with it or not MANY people do!!
sensi_ said:
As far as im aware you cant install a firmware using the update.zip method? this is more for custom roms and other modifications over the top of an already installed firmware?
you want to open up Odin3 and connect your phone ones in download mode, use this to flash the PDA file in your firmware pack
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I'm fine up to the point of flashing the formware could you or someone please explain in a bit more detail what ODIN3 is, how it works and what i'm gonna need and what I need to do!! Sorry to be asking so much, but better I ask and get it right than ask for more help on how to unbrick my phone ...LOL
Is it an android program or somethin I put on my PC... also is there anything I would need to do to the phone other than the root!!
EDIT: Why o why do I need to use odin3... From what i'e read all that does is send it back to original settings and firmware... WHICH I HAVE!! I have not even rooted the phone yet, I am gathering enough info before I even begin!!
So back to the point in hand.... I will root my phone back up the ROM with clockworkmod!!
After this I am stuck as to how I flash it with a different firmware one that is more stable and maybe not having issues with lag!!
Which firmware should I pick and how do I get it flashed onto the device!
PLEASE HELP! I need to try something to get rid of this lag it's unbearable! I'm now wondering if there maybe is something wrong with the handset as the lag is really not to be expected 10secs to switch an app... and i've only added bout 15 apps so its not as if I'm expecting alot from the thing!
before you go all the way and do all those Mod to make the phone faster
lets try something more simple and safer to get rid of that LAG problem (10 sec is definitely too much)
go to the phone dial pad
and dial this number
*2767*3855#
Then give us an update if the phone goes back to normal speed.
AllGamer said:
before you go all the way and do all those Mod to make the phone faster
lets try something more simple and safer to get rid of that LAG problem (10 sec is definitely too much)
go to the phone dial pad
and dial this number
*2767*3855#
Then give us an update if the phone goes back to normal speed.
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did that played with the phone a little a began to see the lag creep up on me again (I am beginning to think this is a problem with memory more than anything, it just keeps loading inactive apps into the memory till it's full) .... Ran quadrant and had a score of 856 although this means not alot to me... what is the norm... and why does that seem slow.... it is after all a 1ghz processor.....
awaiting any ideas/responses.... maybe I am just being too fussy!!!
While i'm still thinking bout what to do... Anybody got any thoughts on the APK ryanZA has released on the market place.. one click root and lagfix!! some comments that it does nothing and some sayin its runnin quadrant scores over 2k....
IS IT ONLY FOR CAPTIVATE/VIBRANT or will it work with european models???????
if it's slow like 10 sec lag even on stock.... i'll definitely return the phone to exchange for another unit.
it should respond immediately, like in 1 sec
AllGamer said:
if it's slow like 10 sec lag even on stock.... i'll definitely return the phone to exchange for another unit.
it should respond immediately, like in 1 sec
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As I say it doesnt start laggy... it just gets that way after a while of using it!! 'is it then to do with the apps i'm using but them the system manager says its all inactive programs using the space... why does it load so many in!
I have just decided to root and lag fix using Ryans' oneclick apk from the market place... Has worked a treat... Am just waiting for the official JM1 update for mine... Kies wont update my version for now.. Anyway wait and see, got a feeling froyo will be out before they sort out the kies update here! If all else fails wait for the official froyo release and apply it myself with odin!...
thanks for the help!
question for you.
did you install any software that will log your activities?
i just recently installed a network logging app, to see how much 3G /2G/GPRS data i'm using, and i noticed the seldom lags
as soon as i uninstalled that particular software, the stock JH2 ROM runs fast as usual again.
i still have all kind of other apps running in the background like IM, fring, and many other online stuff running continously without any lag
AllGamer said:
question for you.
did you install any software that will log your activities?
i just recently installed a network logging app, to see how much 3G /2G/GPRS data i'm using, and i noticed the seldom lags
as soon as i uninstalled that particular software, the stock JH2 ROM runs fast as usual again.
i still have all kind of other apps running in the background like IM, fring, and many other online stuff running continously without any lag
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Nope I was getting lag sometimes on a virtually clean handset with only 4 apps installed and the weren't apps that logging any activities at all... think maybe was bad firmware... had re-installation of system today at a samsung repair centre.. see how things go for now!! thanks though...
Hello chaps,
I just installed cognition 3.04 from stock, and now I'm a bit frustrated because everything works EXCEPT when it tries to recieve calls. I did a little putzing around and found this person with the same problem, but it didn't help. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918458 I tried getting the phone.apk from this thread here, but it will not install. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10685612&postcount=861
Unfortunately, if I can't recieve calls, this rom is useless to me. It's a phone, after all. anybody have a fix for this that doesn't involve the words "master reset"? I don't care if I have to flash back to stock but I will not master reset. 32 gigs of music takes too damn long to sync haha, plus I don't want to have to reset all my tones/settings. I would like to stay on froyo, I like my flash player, working skype, and little pointer that makes it easier to pick a spot in text. (oh, and the whole "better ui" thing is great too)
I'm open to other roms, kernels, whatever as long as I can get everything to work, and not have to master reset
iamtheculprit said:
Hello chaps,
I just installed cognition 3.04 from stock, and now I'm a bit frustrated because everything works EXCEPT when it tries to recieve calls. I did a little putzing around and found this person with the same problem, but it didn't help. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918458 I tried getting the phone.apk from this thread here, but it will not install. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10685612&postcount=861
Unfortunately, if I can't recieve calls, this rom is useless to me. It's a phone, after all. anybody have a fix for this that doesn't involve the words "master reset"? I don't care if I have to flash back to stock but I will not master reset. 32 gigs of music takes too damn long to sync haha, plus I don't want to have to reset all my tones/settings. I would like to stay on froyo, I like my flash player, working skype, and little pointer that makes it easier to pick a spot in text. (oh, and the whole "better ui" thing is great too)
I'm open to other roms, kernels, whatever as long as I can get everything to work, and not have to master reset
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Depends on your knowledge level but it sounds like a reflash is in your future. Just flash to stock and reflash the ROM. if the problem persists, try another ROM. There are plenty to choose from. Please move this to QA though
You know Adam,
What amazes me is how you continuously help to contribute to the XDA community with your great FF, Phoenix and SN in addition to answering questions about other roms too.
We need more guys like you!
Looking forward to SN!
V
adamholden85 said:
Depends on your knowledge level but it sounds like a reflash is in your future. Just flash to stock and reflash the ROM. if the problem persists, try another ROM. There are plenty to choose from. Please move this to QA though
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I did restore my apps with titanium, could that have caused the issue?
iamtheculprit said:
I did restore my apps with titanium, could that have caused the issue?
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This was my issue too...I ended up going through all the steps to flash back to stock and then to cog 3.04 again. After that I cleared all the "caches" and did a master clear.
All of that may be a little superfluous but when I did my restore I did as little as I could because my suspicion was that the full back up from the stock rom was copying over some phone settings. So I picked through the restore items and only left on the apps and contacts left everything else off.
Sure could have if you reinstalled it with system data.
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I did restore my apps with titanium, could that have caused the issue?
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Yes that can definnately cause a problem
You are probably replacing the phone 2.2 with the version of your older ROM. The problem will show it self right after you reboot after restoring with TB.
Also what are you doing flooding the main forum. Either QA or post right in the Cognition thread.
A good rule of thumb for restoring things with Titanium Backup: If the name of the app is RED don't restore it. Only restore things that are GREEN or WHITE
Is your music only on your external sd card? If so, take your external out and master clear. Will only wipe your internal. If it is on your internal as well then ignore this lol.
Sent from my Captivate running Cezar's Continuum v.2.1 with SuckerPunch kernel.
I had this same problem. Phone would ring, and all I had was caller ID, but could not answer the phone. Turns out my Answering Mode was disabled. I don't know if the first flash to the ROM reset this or what, but once I reset to enable, I had no problems. I have since re-flashed ROMS and using Titanium Backup has restored my settings and have had no problems.
I have the same problem in mi Captivate. The phone.apk application hang up when I do OUTGOING calls.
For test, I unninstall the phone.apk and the SO always show an hangup for phone.apk and for messaging.apk applications. I have a Backup after that, and I restore it, but occurrs the same problema in outgoing calls. I didn't restore this application, but I didn't do a Master Clear. I try and post my result.
Otherwise, I have to rollover to Stock ROM.
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iamtheculprit said:
Hello chaps,
I just installed cognition 3.04 from stock, and now I'm a bit frustrated because everything works EXCEPT when it tries to recieve calls. I did a little putzing around and found this person with the same problem, but it didn't help. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=918458 I tried getting the phone.apk from this thread here, but it will not install. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10685612&postcount=861
Unfortunately, if I can't recieve calls, this rom is useless to me. It's a phone, after all. anybody have a fix for this that doesn't involve the words "master reset"? I don't care if I have to flash back to stock but I will not master reset. 32 gigs of music takes too damn long to sync haha, plus I don't want to have to reset all my tones/settings. I would like to stay on froyo, I like my flash player, working skype, and little pointer that makes it easier to pick a spot in text. (oh, and the whole "better ui" thing is great too)
I'm open to other roms, kernels, whatever as long as I can get everything to work, and not have to master reset
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This should have been posted in Cognition Q&A.......
I have a GT-I9000 with stock ROM (& moded kernel, but the kernel is not the problem).
Today, my phone turned off while I was working and didn't paid him much attention.
Then I tried to turn it on, I waited some time and decited that it takes too much.
Then I opened it's back panel and removed the battery. after about 4 hours I charged the battery and turned on my phone.
That's where the problems begun!
The phone booted as ususal till it got to the lock screen, but then it vibrated (the app crash vibration), I unlocked and then ALL of my apps crushed one after another, about 50 apps one by one even though I just turned on my device.
In addition, I've been asked by the device for some info, such as my facebook loggin details, and wifi/3G settings.
Every time I try to use a crashed app, it crashes again.
In my notifications bar, the "noteeverything" app tells me that the Datavase is unreadable and GO Louncher keeps crashing time and time again.
Any1 knows what happens and what should I do?
If formatting the flash is the only way, might I save my apps and their data?
Please help me save my PICTURES!!! ><
Thanks in advance
i would suggest trying to uninstall go launcher, sounds like that's where the problem begins
if it doesn't help you might have to flash your phone, also you should try to save your stuff via Kies if it still is recognized by it
good luck mate
I don't know what you have stored on the actual phone, but I'd try everything to pull what you can off, uless you have recent backups... which you should. One thing I've learnt with smartphones is backup backup backup. I lost my calendar through similar circumstance to you, phone froze, i rebooted it and calendar would always crash... had to reset it =(
Worse to worse, you'll probably have to do a factory reset on it. This only resets all your apps, contacts, sms etc etc... basically anything stored on main phone memory. All data on your internal SD card will be safe... this means your photo's.
If you have kept all your data backed up through google (contacts, calendar etc) then you'll have almost no issue. It'll all restore itself after you wipe and setup your account again.
Flash with Odin. Pictures on internal SD are safe.
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Thank you very much, I'll do that.
Though if I flash, maybe I should have something better then my current 2.2 version.
Any1 knows what CM7 nightly (if at all) I should install so I will be able to do my basic staff? (phone calls, Wi-Fi, 3G, camera, and the basics).
10x again
renkinjitsu said:
Thank you very much, I'll do that.
Though if I flash, maybe I should have something better then my current 2.2 version.
Any1 knows what CM7 nightly (if at all) I should install so I will be able to do my basic staff? (phone calls, Wi-Fi, 3G, camera, and the basics).
10x again
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Im on nighty 7 had no reason to flash any others works like a charm.
only things that dont work are tv out and fm radio.
Hi all
Ever since upgrading to 2.3.3 I've been having random freezes that usually end up in needing a battery pull or pressing down on the power button until the phone reboots itself. This is with Darky's 10.1, although I don't think it's related to the "Darky parts" of the ROM itself, but something more to do with the OS.
Also, I've felt that the phone sometimes slows down. It doesn't feel like the original lag on 2.1, but rather feels like something's eating up CPU power. This will happen on ANY application, and even when moving through homescreens on TW Launcher or ADW Launcher.
Another thing of note is that it seems to be the UI or input process that hangs or dies or something. Because whatever's running keeps running I just can't make the phone respond to touch or any of the hard buttons. For example, today I was playing Age of Wind (sweet game, check it out) and after like 10 seconds of the game stuttering, the phone stopped responding, but my ship just kept going forward and the other ships were trying to keep up with me. Sounds and music kept going. And after 30 seconds of "inactivity", the screen went to sleep. As you can see everything's normal except there's no input.
So what I'd like is for ideas on how to fix or figure out what's wrong. I'm somewhat tech-savvy so I wouldn't be scared of using adb or some other debugging tool. So far I've not been able to figure out what's wrong because all the logs start over whenever I reboot the phone.
So, any ideas? Any additional information that would be useful?
Edit and update: I've changed the title because this has already happened on different custom ROM's, including Darky and Criskelo.
I have now tested for 5 days on Criskelo's ROM (based on 2.3.4) and it will happen also. So far what I've noticed both on Darky's and on Criskelo's ROMs:
- The phone will work perfectly for about 4-5 days
- On the 4th day it will start stuttering and lagging. That's when I know it's very close to locking up.
- On the 4th day it will maybe lock up once in a day
- After the 4th day it will start locking up up to three times a day
- The lock-up is at the UI level. Applications will keep running, it will ring if you call it, notification sounds are still alive, the screen will turn off normally after 30 seconds or whatever timeout you set up. But input is totally dead.
- When it locks up, both soft-buttons will light up and stay lit.
Possible causes:
- Something related to USB storage or SD card storage. Someone mentioned that it might be caused by the "fast media scanner". It's possible, because on one of my many tests, instead of reinstalling an OS, I formatted the minisd, the internal sd and phone storage and the phone was fine for 4-5 days and then it started doing screwy stuff again. This reinforces the theory that it's something to do with storage. My guess is the OS itself starts degrading the filesystem or handles or something. And my suspicion is that it's something in the /system/dbdata or /cache partitions, not the sdcard or external sd cards. Impossible to know because I have no idea how to debug using adb and nobody has given any ideas on this.
- I'm starting to suspect the BLN support in the kernel. I have BLN turned off, but I'm not so sure.
Hi,
Sorry don't have any answers, but am having the exact same problems on Darky's 10.1. Except I have a TouchWiz4 Port + Galaxy S II Icons.
Hopefully someone will know of this issue! Its starting to annoy me!!
Cheers,
Sunny
Tell me something, when you installed Darky, did you restore your apps via Titanium Backup? Did you select "Restore apps + data" or just apps?
I'm in the process of reinstalling Darky's from scratch, see if that works. If not I might go back to 9.5 or try Criskelo's ROM.
Thanks
Hi,
Nope I didn't backup or restore any apps. My data is all on my SD card and I just reinstall apps.. I came from DebusROM G1.
Thanks,
Sunny
Maybe a factory reset (do it in recovery) would help?
I actually did a factory reset before installing.
@sundazetoo: Do you have Voodoo lagfix enabled?
Last night, while in the process of reinstalling Darky's ROM, I disabled the lagfix (converting to RSF) and after almost an hour i decided to pull the battery. Then when I rebooted again, it went through the conversion process, finished in 2 minutes (wut!) and an error displayed (it couldn't mount some partition, one that I know is not critical).
So I'm suspecting a filesystem problem.
I already installed and DO NOT have Voodoo's lagfix enabled. I also did a complete wipe and restored my apps without data. So far it seems fine but it's only been a few hours.
@Lunchbox115: I did the factory reset when I installed too.
@ferparedes: Yep voodoo is enabled. I am now running on the stock launcher that came with Darky's 10.1 and it seems to be running a lot smoother. I was running a TW4 port so that may have been my problem!
I will monitor it and let you know how it goes.
Have you tried clearing the data / cache for the launchers you are using? That seems to fix alot of FC issues for apps for me.. I guess no harm in trying anyways?
2 days in after reinstalling.
Voodoo EXT4 lagfix NOT enabled. Phone is pretty snappy and I've haven't had any more freezes. I think it was either a bad EXT4 conversion or the lagfix itself was causing it. Anyways, since the phone is pretty fast I'm leaving it with RFS lagfix only.
One thing of note, though. I'm running stock GB launcher atm, because ADW was giving some problems.
Yesterday ADW Launcher *died* and although the phone was working and responsive, the launcher never came back. The result was that when I pressed the home button nothing happened but a blank screen. The power button worked, though, so I was able to do a clean reboot and switch to Launcher.
Interesting, I dont seem to have the same issues with the voodoo lag fix.
Also I am now using ADW Launcher EX and have not had any issues. I think my problem was the TW4 port.
Same again
I get these issues too. I seem to get them RFS and ext4 (I think - mostly its been ext4 though). Often get a delay on the keyboard. Its driving me a bit nuts but I am reluctant to go back to Froyo just for this (I hate having to restore all my user names and passwords).
Silly thing is I cannot recall if I got in when I tried Gingerreal (on Darky 10.1 now).
Would love to see thoughts and theories too..
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After almost 2 days of totally flawless operation, I reinserted my 16 GB Micro SD card with all of my stuff in there. Among many things:
- Audible audiobooks, along with bookmark and "furthest listened" data
- Music, playlists. All created by TuneSync (which I use to wireless sync music and playlists from my PC's iTunes)
- Dropbox download folder
- Photos and videos taken with the phone
- Some other files not associated with any app
2 hours after doing this, blam, the phone locked up again requiring a reboot. So I removed the Micro SD and when I got home I backed up my photos and videos on the PC, reinserted it in the phone and formated the card. This was last night.
So far the phone's working fine.
My current theory:
The Micro SD card I originally bought for the phone was an 8gig. When I got the 16 gig one, I just copied everything from the 8gig onto a folder on the PC, then copied everything over to the 16 one. This might've broken something.
After going to Gingerbread, it's possible that the way some applications look for their data (for example, Audible) changed but when encountering the same data (that was copied over from a windows folder on the PC) it might've generated errors which in turn put the interface into a deadlock.
My strongest suspect is Audible. After installing Darky 10.1, the app just chugged away remembering all my farthest listened to data, all my audiobooks were visible, etc. After reinstalling (and removing the Micro SD) I had to redownload some, but it still remembered where I was and didn't have to reactivate the device. Now, after formatting the Micro SD, I've had to redownload everything, it didn't remember where I was on each audiobook and I also had to reactivate the device.
If the phone doesn't lock up during the next 4-5 days then I'll conclude that errors on accessing the Micro SD by some app was the cause.
sundazetoo said:
Interesting, I dont seem to have the same issues with the voodoo lag fix.
Also I am now using ADW Launcher EX and have not had any issues. I think my problem was the TW4 port.
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Yeah I actually don't think ADW launcher is causing this particular problem. But in a different problem altogether, it did die and in this case required me to do a reboot, albeit a clean one. But if it gave me this one single problem than I'm inclined to stop using it. I don't want the phone disabled for the 3-5 minutes it takes to boot up if I need it in an emergency (it's a phone first and foremost, after all)
tw4 is an EVIL for SGSi9000 imho... because almost everyone have problems with it !!! so just use another Launchers... LauncherPro, Launcher EX (my favourite) but not TW4 )))
I tried to fix with a reinstall of stock jvp and then went to F1 v8 jvp rkm but I also formated ext_sd card as suggested here (and deleted audible application which I was not using.
So far so good but it's only been an hour...
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Definitely something related to sd card. Everything is screwy now but less so with the sd card out.
Anyone find any solutions?
I was getting double boot screens and freezes on the dialer. Realized it was the sd when my backup would not load.
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Had this happen to me today,
I had the phone boot up and it would get to the lockscreen, then media scan, then it would lock up, only a battery pull would turn it off.
Tried booting without the External SD and it didnt occur, hmmm
Put the microSD card in the card reader on the PC, and performed a scan for errors/fix bad sectors, it didnt find anything but i put it back in and it goes fine now, im sure its the external card.
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Found this thread that seems related;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367912&page=3
Trying the chkdisk utility now...
It did it again with the micro sd card out. So today I reformated the internal SD storage (usb storage) and will see how it goes. If this last attempt fails I will either go back to froyo or try another ROM.
But I do think it has something to do with one of the SD card storage.
gfacer said:
Found this thread that seems related;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=367912&page=3
Trying the chkdisk utility now...
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Should be fine
More things to try
Looked at my rom page (F1 JVP) and noticed that V8, which I have now, had the faster media scanner as does Darky's 10.1-which is not getting updates often now it seems. Well the faster media scanner only lasted 2 days until V9 of the F1 rom when the delevoper removed it. My guess it that it was causing issues.
Leads me to wonder if that might be causing the corruption in the first place or at least a contributing factor.
Also read some threads at google about similar issues across a whole wave of devices and one person there mentioned H2testw utility to test the sectors of your SD card. It sounds like cheap ebay sd card and larger SD cards my have more issues (mine is a 32gb). It is best to format and then test with h2testw but I decided to run just on the empty parts of the card and decide from there.
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this seems to be happenning very ofthwn for my phone, and it hasn't disappeared even with using a different ROM or kernel.
I'm on tweaky's 2.3.5 JVS now, and I sometimes when I am in dialer and I type in 3 numbers, it just closes itself and shoots me back to the homescreen. it keeps doing that, and I'm unable to dial out because of this, until after a while and it irritates me to no end.
this also seemingly happens with me using whatsapp or Viber, where when I want to reply a message, after whatsapp has loaded up, it shoots me back to the home screen.
now, I've tries to get rid of my task killers, and saw no changes whatsoever, so can someone enlighten me on what's going on, and how to rectify this????
You say you did try a couple of roms, have you performed a factory reset or re-partition when flashing the roms?
Yes I did, all the time with Odin... Happenned with Darky, symply, simplicity, all of them
I wipe data and factory reset, even format the storage.
I'm not sure but as you said you've tried to change both rom and kernal yet there seems to be some sort of constant.
Are you backing up your apps accounts data etc and then restoring data? or the apps themselves? Because this can cause in-compatibilities.
If you do then start from scratch install only apps but only from market and one by one. Try play around half a day or something (or if you know a definite trigger see if it happens) if nothing then install another of your old apps.
Also have you tried installing no apps just use those that came with the rom. If it still happens after everything has been wiped (cache, dalvik cache, repartition, format sd, no external sd) then im inclined to say its hardware... When did this start happening?
Hi, thanks for the reply.
I back up my applications using Appmonster, and this retains just the program itself, I reset everything back to how it was after I wipe.
I'm not sure, I tried to think on whether its an issue with like lacking of ram or something, because SOMETIMES it behaves after I kill of some apps and free up some RAM.
I also thought it might have been a task manager which is doing it but uninstalled that and nothing changed.
I tried to install the programs slowly and individuality and it was a VERY slow and painful process, and it got me really nowhere, as like after i uninstalled and backtracked it still happenned.
I was wondering to myself if it was app incompatibility, as I have a relatively large list of apps installed.
It doesn't seem to do it if its fresh, so I'm not too sure myself.
Any ideas per se? Maybe a list of my installed apps? IDK I'm trying to find a solution to this.
At this rate I'm tempted to get a new phone
No harm in sharing the list of apps I guess, maybe someone more knowledgeable can give you a hand with that info.
Okay, But are there known apps that do this to the system? doesn't seem to happen for games but for Dialer and Whatsapp and Viber.
Everything else just works peach.
I just realised it might take more than a while, perhaps I will try a slow install of only the absolute necessities then.
I'm just wondering if I'm the only one who's encountering this issue. I'll try a week of the basics soon.
Thanks anw. :3
hamsteyr said:
I'm just wondering if I'm the only one who's encountering this issue. I'll try a week of the basics soon.
Thanks anw. :3
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It happened to me too.
I am also seeking the reason.
But the latest ROM Gingerreal v7.14 was okay..
That's really strange then.
Perhaps its the combination of apps... I don't know, I'll try getting rid of the unnecessary and see if it'll cause the same issues.
dialpad problem and other
sas_sas said:
It happened to me too.
I am also seeking the reason.
But the latest ROM Gingerreal v7.14 was okay..
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good to me the same thing happened to good use Viber but not if I used other application in restored times I have installed from scratch I have used several JVS rom and even some custom rom and also jvr stock but it is more about the JVS rom because jvr step with me after a few occasions,
JVS install and initially as well but in the kernel changes and custom rom rom that has happened to me in all I've used lately.