[Q] How hard is it to brick? - Touch Diamond2, Pure Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok so im new to this did some Research and thinking about Flashing my htc topaz,
but i want to know how hard it is to brick it till u cant ever use it?
And if there any ways to really back it up so if u do u can recover it ?

rezkon said:
Ok so im new to this did some Research and thinking about Flashing my htc topaz,
but i want to know how hard it is to brick it till u cant ever use it?
And if there any ways to really back it up so if u do u can recover it ?
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hi rezkon,
according to the knowledge available to me, majority of causes of bricking a WM phone are these:
load corrupted HSPL
run out of battery during flashing a ROM
unplug the USB cable during flashing a ROM
i am not aware fo other cases, but I think there must be other cases. I flashed my phone several times with EnergyROMs and I really like them

tlsty said:
hi rezkon,
according to the knowledge available to me, majority of causes of bricking a WM phone are these:
load corrupted HSPL
run out of battery during flashing a ROM
unplug the USB cable during flashing a ROM
i am not aware fo other cases, but I think there must be other cases. I flashed my phone several times with EnergyROMs and I really like them
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Generally with a Topaz though there is an option in the standard flash ROM of restarting the flash from the beginning so i would think that most of those are covered by that . I know that i flashed a standard ROM onto mine and half way through it lost connection for which the flash utility told me so and let me restart the flash all over again so from my point of view that's pretty robust.

Thanks
Ahh ok soo its seems quiet hard to brick forever?
if anyone of you would pm to guide me?

rezkon said:
Ahh ok soo its seems quiet hard to brick forever?
if anyone of you would pm to guide me?
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why do you even need it bricked...?

Oh im sorry i didnt notice,
i ment a guide so i can Flash my phone and not brick it
sorry for any trouble

rezkon said:
Oh im sorry i didnt notice,
i ment a guide so i can Flash my phone and not brick it
sorry for any trouble
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see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715864

syrian
what is the device brick what is the cuz of it
thanks

SYRIAN4E said:
what is the device brick what is the cuz of it
thanks
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To brick a device is a slang term it means that because of something that you have done the device no longer works so pretty much has the same use as a brick - can be anything from a wrongly flashed device to dropping it down the toilet if it no longer works it's been bricked

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** Urgent ** my Wizard cant power on after upgrade ROM

Hi to all that can help me, i just flash the rom yesterday night that i have download and its completed the upgrade and go into the screen and running the installing of the program that come with the rom.
after the full install and the device restart without any more power and picture show.
I have try to charge the battery with wall charger and also replace with new battery but still no power.
Is that mean i'm flashing with a wrong rom and what should i do now.
Can i get it fix?
nicholas99 said:
Hi to all that can help me, i just flash the rom yesterday night that i have download and its completed the upgrade and go into the screen and running the installing of the program that come with the rom.
after the full install and the device restart without any more power and picture show.
I have try to charge the battery with wall charger and also replace with new battery but still no power.
Is that mean i'm flashing with a wrong rom and what should i do now.
Can i get it fix?
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That really sucks...
nicholas99 said:
Hi to all that can help me, i just flash the rom yesterday night that i have download and its completed the upgrade and go into the screen and running the installing of the program that come with the rom.
after the full install and the device restart without any more power and picture show.
I have try to charge the battery with wall charger and also replace with new battery but still no power.
Is that mean i'm flashing with a wrong rom and what should i do now.
Can i get it fix?
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which rom did u flash it with ??? wat ver ur configs before that . ur ipl/spl version os and etc.
sometime it happens that the power button doesnt works ....
try poking the reset button wiz ur stylus ... press and hold for sumtime and c wat happens
if it starts then ... press it again and wen the screen goes blank pree the camera button and hold it ... ull get into the bootloader ... den connect da usb and flash a new rom or da old factry one ...
i use molski's rom its really stable
well i'm using Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii+CF2 for the first but after that i just try to flash the rom the the chinese support rom which is Dopod_CHT_TW_RUU by using the newromupdateutility to flash it to my phone. At the beginning the rom flash successful and login to the device for install all the program that come with. After all the installation done the device will restart but never boot up anymore even u can see any green light flashing at all. Please dont tell me i damage my rom, should i send for repair?
or someone can help me out please......
nicholas99 said:
well i'm using Wizard_Love_2.26.10.2_WWE_Novii+CF2 for the first but after that i just try to flash the rom the the chinese support rom which is Dopod_CHT_TW_RUU by using the newromupdateutility to flash it to my phone. At the beginning the rom flash successful and login to the device for install all the program that come with. After all the installation done the device will restart but never boot up anymore even u can see any green light flashing at all. Please dont tell me i damage my rom, should i send for repair?
or someone can help me out please......
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did u try da soft reset ???
yes i did but nothing happen at all
Xda Neo
I have the same problem. IPL and SPL 2.15.00001 and tryed to downgrade but after restart it does not power on. Tried everything but no way to power on. Is somebody know how to make it work again.
Regards,
You guys tried to flash a G3 Rom on your G4 Wizard.
So your bootloader (IPL/SPL) that is 2.xx.0001 is overwritten by a G3 bootloader that is 2.xx, so in other words....your devices are bricked.
Please someone, correct me if I am wrong.
Molski
yup, I agree. Bricked hopefully someone can fine the JTag on these devices.
Wow that sucks! Full moon over Miami last night, naw that can't be it .....
Sorry but unfortunately I must follow my Grandmother's advice concerning when I don't have anything nice to say...
R there NO ALTERNATIVE WAY for THIS?? HOPE we can help those people that made a mistake by upgrading to a ROM that doesnt fit to their WIZARD. due maybe because of TOO XCITEMENT they forgot to CHECK FIRST(PLS! ALWAYS CHECK FIRST) their IPL/SPL.
HOPE those master GURU's can do something!
So, please someone tell clearly how to know G3 or G4 of the Wizard
thanks so much
Sorry but I have no more tolerance for people who just jump in first without doing a little research. A while back when the G4 first came out we didn't know. Now everyone who puts out a ROM warns people about the possible consequences. And there's so many threads on just the first page with tales of woe... how can a person miss them all??
I'm sorry but my parents raised me to take responsibility for my own actions, as Baretta used to say" Don't do the crime if you can't do the time"
Similar to when a Cat 4 hurricane is coming at you and you don't leave after being warned.... then blaiming everyone but yourself...
And if anyone wants to rebute me on this, don't bother as I've neither the time nor the patience.
Bottom line is that flashing phones has the very real possiblity of trashing an expensive piece of hardware in a very short period of time. If one has any doubts, then they shouldn't do it! And if a person doesn't have a concern initially then they're asking for trouble.
Sorry....
magicer said:
So, please someone tell clearly how to know G3 or G4 of the Wizard
thanks so much
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a G4 has a .00001 on the initial splash screen.
ArtXT said:
R there NO ALTERNATIVE WAY for THIS?? HOPE we can help those people that made a mistake by upgrading to a ROM that doesnt fit to their WIZARD. due maybe because of TOO XCITEMENT they forgot to CHECK FIRST(PLS! ALWAYS CHECK FIRST) their IPL/SPL.
HOPE those master GURU's can do something!
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The problem is that if your bootloader (IPL/SPL) is fuc*ed up, there is no way to get it in bootloader mode to do a flash!
Only known solution is with JTAG connector, but that solution is not a clear solution yet, but I dont know nothing about that solution (simply...because I never needed it).
Molski
Dr Puttingham said:
Sorry but I have no more tolerance for people who just jump in first without doing a little research. A while back when the G4 first came out we didn't know. Now everyone who puts out a ROM warns people about the possible consequences. And there's so many threads on just the first page with tales of woe... how can a person miss them all??
I'm sorry but my parents raised me to take responsibility for my own actions, as Baretta used to say" Don't do the crime if you can't do the time"
Similar to when a Cat 4 hurricane is coming at you and you don't leave after being warned.... then blaiming everyone but yourself...
And if anyone wants to rebute me on this, don't bother as I've neither the time nor the patience.
Bottom line is that flashing phones has the very real possiblity of trashing an expensive piece of hardware in a very short period of time. If one has any doubts, then they shouldn't do it! And if a person doesn't have a concern initially then they're asking for trouble.
Sorry....
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I knew I have a G4 and can't upgrade/downgrade with G3 roms or even change IPL/SPL, but I did that :]
Just found ROM v2.22.1 (I think), like my original Wizard's was. I was so happy that I found it, that I forgot about G3 chips existence 8)
Well, ROM was for G3 -_-
Just ran too fast and slipped. Maybe I got that speed after very often Pioneer BCT 1430 flashing. It is just immortal :]
well i know about the G3 and G4 but the rom that i downloaded from doesn't say anything about support G3 or G4 thats why i consider this rom doesn't included IPL and SPL just like the custom rom been make from other member.
Damn now i have to send my phone back to factory for fixing it. Lucky i still have a warranty of it.
nicholas99 said:
well i know about the G3 and G4 but the rom that i downloaded from doesn't say anything about support G3 or G4 thats why i consider this rom doesn't included IPL and SPL just like the custom rom been make from other member.
Damn now i have to send my phone back to factory for fixing it. Lucky i still have a warranty of it.
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I do feel for you. I believe that the best thing that we can do is to not even make G3 ROM's available to the general public. Maybe all new ROM releases should be IPL/SPL - less. If one needs a ROM that will upgrade their bootloader they'll have to request a password protected file.
I just dunno...
Dr Puttingham said:
I do feel for you. I believe that the best thing that we can do is to not even make G3 ROM's available to the general public. Maybe all new ROM releases should be IPL/SPL - less. If one needs a ROM that will upgrade their bootloader they'll have to request a password protected file.
I just dunno...
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...which is one of the reasons why carriers make it so hard to flash a ROM from one carrier to the device of another.
Qtek 9100 half bricked
Hi Molski
I'm new here.Just 'd like to know if you could support me on this matter.
Here we go...
I've flashed my 9100 from wwe to esn (spanish) with the ROM 1.3.7.5 or something like this.
This is the problem...I got a power failure in the middle of the flashing process.So now the device isnt able to start up it didnt install the OS properly.
Now it says:
IPL 2.24 (i managed to flash the ipl n spl)
SPL 2.24
OS 1.3.7.5
But I'm pretty sure that there's no OS watsoever because after keep trying flashing with other ROM in bootload mode.I finally managed with an Orange of 34 mb it updated the ROM,that is the IPL And SPL and with the process was running I've noticed the screen got blank and updated it properly.I was realy happy when I saw it but even though it did it properly I still got the same problem.The pda doesnt start up.When I flashed it for the first time I did it with care,followed all the instructions,that is, unlocked the CID first etc.But had the damn joy of getting a power failure in the middle of it.
I'm just wondering if one of you would be able to gimme a light on it.I've tried everything but flashing it with a G4 ROM coz I know it wont work.
Regards
Luiz Santos
Molski[/QUOTE]

what is hard spl ?

i see lots of thread of hard spl, what is it exactly ?
xpir said:
i see lots of thread of hard spl, what is it exactly ?
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mmmhhh...... wellllll it is a secret which must be found out by READING!!!!!!!
damn - there is a wiki
there is a Noobguide....
there is a thread called "How to flash HRAD-SPL....
and 1000 threadds more with INFORMATION!!!!
Please read and then ask.
Because when you don´t even know how to find out what Hard-SPL is then stay away from flashing. Because it is dangorous and could brick your device!!!
Thanks...
.... if you don´t like my answer - report my post to one of the moderators!
Quite frankly, since I have success flashing via USPL/nbh method, I doubt I'll ever even think about the hard-spl way of life, simply because I really don't want to fark anything up and brick me tele-phono.
And he's right. If you aren't able to figure out on your own something that's explained about 100 times, you need to keep reading before you consider trying to hard spl your device, or even flash a new rom.
simplicity05 said:
Quite frankly, since I have success flashing via USPL/nbh method, I doubt I'll ever even think about the hard-spl way of life, simply because I really don't want to fark anything up and brick me tele-phono.
And he's right. If you aren't able to figure out on your own something that's explained about 100 times, you need to keep reading before you consider trying to hard spl your device, or even flash a new rom.
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you could add "HARD-SPL and USPL" to your signiture then he does not ahve to search...hahaha
I was a newbie till about a month a go and have learned tons of information from this site. These guys are right. The information is right there you just have to search for it.

Bricked G1

right i know how i bricked my G1
did spl before radio .. so the outcome is basiclly it hangs on the screen thing
i passed the phone down to my little brother so hes been using it for some time i ain been on the g1 scene for quite some time until yesterday he started ranting on bout me upgrading his system to the Hero ports
my main question was is there a way to recover this problem
or am i going to have to go tru my friends at t-mobile
thanks in advance
1) You posted in the wrong forum. How is this post in way Android Development?
2) Learn to use periods. It's hard to understand what you are trying to say.
...So you bricked your g1?
Sorry, nothing can be done.
shaji007 said:
right i know how i bricked my G1
did spl before radio .. so the outcome is basiclly it hangs on the screen thing
i passed the phone down to my little brother so hes been using it for some time i ain been on the g1 scene for quite some time until yesterday he started ranting on bout me upgrading his system to the Hero ports
my main question was is there a way to recover this problem
or am i going to have to go tru my friends at t-mobile
thanks in advance
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Shaji... 1st off how is your little brother using a "bricked" phone? If it is bricked it can't be used let alone have the ROM updated to the Hero ROM's. Also there are several threads over in the " Dream android development " that should provide you with PLENTY of information that you seek... good luck with T-Mobile...
peace
...tell T-Mobile you got an OTA update and phone never booted past the first screen after. You're phone is bricked ,get a new one.
shaji007 said:
right i know how i bricked my G1
did spl before radio .. so the outcome is basiclly it hangs on the screen thing
i passed the phone down to my little brother so hes been using it for some time i ain been on the g1 scene for quite some time until yesterday he started ranting on bout me upgrading his system to the Hero ports
my main question was is there a way to recover this problem
or am i going to have to go tru my friends at t-mobile
thanks in advance
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I did the same thing the night Haykuro came out with all his new stuff for that. I flashed SPL before radio, but I was able to fix it. I'll pull up the email I worked out with him, PM me for it.
Disconnect usb, take out the battery and plug it back it, connect usb, boot the phone into the recovery mode, go to the console.
Enter then type this: echo /dev/block/mmcblk0 > /sys/devices/platform/usb_mass_storage/lun0/file
You now can access to ur sdcard from your computer, download a rom, change it to "update". Reboot the phone again, now try to wipe and install the update. After you install the update, flash the radio first, then the SPL. Let me know how it works out for you.
thanks for all the information people
@shaji007 Your post is quite confusing, can you tell us what you did in order? Can the phone get in to recovery (power+home) or the bootloader (power+camera)?
@phuthanvinh If you brick you can't get in to recovery.
@lukekirstein You know how to bring bricked G1's back to life? This I gotta see...
right basiclly
i followed the guide how to downgrade root n hack etc
did all that
then upgraded to one of JF builds
then i was going to install the hero ports that have been flying around
however this is my fault i wasnt really concentrating and i upgraded the spl before the radio
so yea its bricked on there
i just thought xda might have a way of fixing it back up
getting it replaced with t-mobile is of course no problem but i dont want to go through the hassle
lukekirstein said:
I did the same thing the night Haykuro came out with all his new stuff for that. I flashed SPL before radio, but I was able to fix it. I'll pull up the email I worked out with him, PM me for it.
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yea okay I don't believe you...If haykuro was able to fix it why hasn't he posted a fix? No why havent YOU posted a fix?
shaji007 said:
right basiclly
i followed the guide how to downgrade root n hack etc
did all that
then upgraded to one of JF builds
then i was going to install the hero ports that have been flying around
however this is my fault i wasnt really concentrating and i upgraded the spl before the radio
so yea its bricked on there
i just thought xda might have a way of fixing it back up
getting it replaced with t-mobile is of course no problem but i dont want to go through the hassle
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Right, yeah, you're screwed. Just tell tmo that the update bricked it, but don't say bricked, just act dumb
I wouldn't hold out much hope for lukekirstein's unbrick method that no one has over heard about before...

Do i loose my guarantee after Flash?

i flashed my x1 with some rom, and now i flashed it back to the basic rom but i allready have the hard spl mod (debranded x1)
and my keyboard now sucks, i got the bill / and support card
so can i go to the shop where i bought it and get back a new one or repaired one?
do i have guarantee even if i have flashed my x1 ?
thanks !
now u still gotta flash stock spl... just check the sticky threads...
also had tht keyboard prob... hope its not gonna happen again..
Uhm no it wouldnt work right now but if you look at the stickyed threads you will see a way to flash back your normal hardspl and your normal rom this way it will look like just an ordinary branded xperia
i have bought the x1 from a shop in germany
Without any brandings (vodafone,t-mobile,o2)
where i can find the stock rom for it ?
can somebody find a link for this one ?
Not very hard to find...
Just look here...
Mopral said:
Not very hard to find...
Just look here...
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yeah and which of these ? generic de or what ?
and this ones are all exe files how can i flash them ? cuz i got hard spl on my device.
I wouldn't worry about flashing the HardSPL. I sent my phone back to Sony after flashing and didn't hear a thing. They sent it back reflashed with an official HardSPL and Firmware. There's not much chance of them finding out, and even if they did you could just claim innocence and say you have no idea what they are talking about.
If it's a problem with something that they would need to test with the phone turned on and working however, I would highly suggest you flash the original rom (don't worry about the spl).
Just my advice
donbonone said:
yeah and which of these ? generic de or what ?
and this ones are all exe files how can i flash them ? cuz i got hard spl on my device.
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ah man!!
extract it (rar,zip whatever) rename to kovsimg.nbh- hard spl
or read the sticky and like Lex said flash stock spl back
and if you wish you can take Zimbabve language, up to you to download one you understand
okay thanks very much, i dont know much about it.. but you helped me.. thanks for the advice.. !
one of my X1 cracked jz beside the back hatch. i've flashed it with cRoms from xda! guess what? i'm still up for warranty as long as the stickers protection the machine inside is still intact.
btw, does x1 comes with guarantee?
Right is just like a pc ... as long as is still in warranty they want care if u have customized it in any way or whatever they just reflash it to latest SE rom ... and repair it
never had problems

T-mobile G1(Dream110)-bricked : HELP :o)

Hi all,
have some problem with T-mobile G1.
In first, its not mine, but my friends.
He was trying to do ROOT + flash eclair rom.
But he was unsuccesfull.
I tell him, I will write here and maybe, if all goes fine, repair his G1.
I realy dont know, what all he was trying with it.
But when i get it to my hands G1 was stucked on showing logo T-Mobile G1.
So where can be problem? And how can i repair it? )
Now Im going to read all forums about G1, cuz I have it in my hands for first time.
So if anybody can help i will be happy )
MiTMaNeK said:
Hi all,
have some problem with T-mobile G1.
In first, its not mine, but my friends.
He was trying to do ROOT + flash eclair rom.
But he was unsuccesfull.
I tell him, I will write here and maybe, if all goes fine, repair his G1.
I realy dont know, what all he was trying with it.
But when i get it to my hands G1 was stucked on showing logo T-Mobile G1.
So where can be problem? And how can i repair it? )
Now Im going to read all forums about G1, cuz I have it in my hands for first time.
So if anybody can help i will be happy )
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I can help, but need more info. Tell me about the process you used to root and flash.
What happens if you turn on the phone while holding down the home button?
How about if you power on while holding the camera button?
I can help, but need more info. Tell me about the process you used to root and flash.
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In first, thx for answer
What I know(I asked owner of this bricked G1):
1)He make ROOT with GoldCard
2)After that he flash SPL
3)Flash this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=598973
But not working, so he made point 2 and 3 again .. still dont work.. dont know if he tried it again..
What happens if you turn on the phone while holding down the home button?
How about if you power on while holding the camera button?
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nothing =(
EDIT : Its realy firts time when I got Andorid phone in hand, I can repair bricked Raphael, but I realy dont know what with this and what all i need in my computer.
MiTMaNeK said:
In first, thx for answer
What I know(I asked owner of this bricked G1):
1)He make ROOT with GoldCard
2)After that he flash SPL
3)Flash this ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=598973
But not working, so he made point 2 and 3 again .. still dont work.. dont know if he tried it again..
nothing =(
EDIT : Its realy firts time when I got Andorid phone in hand, I can repair bricked Raphael, but I realy dont know what with this and what all i need in my computer.
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I am guessing they flashed Haykuro's special (i.e. danger or death spl) since they wanted an eclair ROM. Furthermore, I am guessing they did not flash the updated radio before the SPL?
Either way, since nothing happens when holding home, or camera, I am sorry to say you have a brick.
Thx )
Yea, I know, its a brick, while Im reading all forums about bricked G1... but there must be way how to repair it =D
MiTMaNeK said:
Thx )
Yea, I know, its a brick, while Im reading all forums about bricked G1... but there must be way how to repair it =D
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As of yet your options are to send it to HTC to have it fixed, replace the motherboard, or follow this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591048
Maybe these guys will figure it out.
Thx for this link, Its last hope for my friends G1 =), or buy used broken G1 with good motherboard =)
In all the cases I've read about if you can't access bootloader and recovery then your phone is bricked for good, but if you can access at least one of them your phone can still be fixed
Its fully bricked. So Power+ Cam and Power + Home dont work, maybe they found the way how to repair it )

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