Hi guys, I am a tmobile user so I don't have a captivate, but I do own a vibrant, nexus one, and nexus s.
I rooted my buddy's captivate a little while back. No custom rom or anything, just root, custom recovery, and such.
He just called me today and said he has a notification for an update and wants to know if he should get it. I told him no for now and I'll find out what it is.
So any of you captivate users get an update notification today 12/16/2010? What is it? Froyo? Is it safe to update with root and custom recovery?
No update afaik. It's probably jh7.
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curti.nogg said:
No update afaik. It's probably jh7.
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Ok so I just called him and he has f*3 I think he said? I don't even remember what he said but it was f something. Not jh7.
I guess would bring me to the question of whether we can just let the ota run it's course or if i need to take him back to stock first. Any thoughts? I'll call back and find out what exact version he is using if I need to. I'm kind of tired right now and forgot what he said.
Stock would be jf6 and the only ota the Captivate has received is jh7.
Edit: You should just flash a froyo rom imo.
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curti.nogg said:
Stock would be jf6 and the only ota the Captivate has received is jh7.
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Ok that's probably what he said, I just texted him to ask again. I knew it had a f in it though.
Do you know if i need to unroot and go back to stock recovery to update to jh7?
Ya he has jf6, just heard back from him. What is a stable everyday use 2.2 rom I should suggest to him? I'm guessing 2.3 will be ported soon too.
So no one knows if I have to unroot and revert the recovery to stock in order to get jh7 update safely? Currently on jf6 rooted with clockworkmod.
I've seen as others have also reported that if you have ever rooted your phone the OTA update to JH7 will fail. The phone will get to 50% in the update and fail. It could possibly even brick.
you would need to use the odin 1 click to update your buddies phone then re root it.
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avgjoegeek said:
you would need to use the odin 1 click to update your buddies phone then re root it.
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thank you, exactly the information I was looking for.
Old text message for update is old.
gunnyman said:
I've seen as others have also reported that if you have ever rooted your phone the OTA update to JH7 will fail. The phone will get to 50% in the update and fail. It could possibly even brick.
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It must be hit or miss. Had two phones and both rooted, with at the time oclf, and ain't bloatware removed. Both had ota go fine. But I guess better safe then sorry.
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Yea mine failed when I had attempted.
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I had been running the leaked Froyo and went back to stock. My OTA to JH7 always failed at 50%. I had to use Kies (what a piece of crap software) to finally get back to out of box. I had to return during 30 day for a continually crazy search button.
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I'm trying to update to official 2.2 to return the phone to warranty but its not updating. The progress bar gets to about 3/4 of the way then it says the upgrade could not be completed. Anyone know why?
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did you get the phone with stock 2.2? If not I would just flash back to stock jf6 as that erases any trace of custom ROMs (from what I've read).. and even if the phone came with 2.2 it may not matter if they get it back and it's 2.1. Beats me, just a thought.
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did you get the phone with stock 2.2? If not I would just flash back to stock jf6 as that erases any trace of custom ROMs (from what I've read).. and even if the phone came with 2.2 it may not matter if they get it back and it's 2.1. Beats me, just a thought.
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They don't keep track of what version the phone was on when it was sent. Simply use Odin3 one clck downloader and it will clear everything that would void your waranty.
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They don't keep track of what version the phone was on when it was sent. Simply use Odin3 one clck downloader and it will clear everything that would void your waranty.
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I didn't think so but wasn't sure.. thanks for clarifying
Nvm i went they didnt do anything wasted an hour of my life and then i called the warranty number and got a replacement on the way in 10 minutes
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I'm not new to this sort of stuff either. I used odin one time on my phone with no issues what so ever. my wife just had to make a warranty claim on her phone and we just got the replacement, asked her if she wanted me to root and put cognition on and she said sure
Well it had stock 2.2 on it and it wouldn't install clockwork recovery. upon reading that it was the update causing the problem I figured id just use odin to take the phone back to 2.2. I used a brand new charge cable I've only had for 3 weeks and things started fine but eventually the screen went black and odins progress bar stopped moving... 15 mins went by and nothing was happening... so I knew it was messed up and I unplugged it...
And $125 later I have an ins replacement on the way. Understand that I've been doin this for six months and this is the first time I've ever had a problem... so what happened? major hit to my confidence here!
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Cor-master said:
I'm not new to this sort of stuff either. I used odin one time on my phone with no issues what so ever. my wife just had to make a warranty claim on her phone and we just got the replacement, asked her if she wanted me to root and put cognition on and she said sure
Well it had stock 2.2 on it and it wouldn't install clockwork recovery. upon reading that it was the update causing the problem I figured id just use odin to take the phone back to 2.2. I used a brand new charge cable I've only had for 3 weeks and things started fine but eventually the screen went black and odins progress bar stopped moving... 15 mins went by and nothing was happening... so I knew it was messed up and I unplugged it...
And $125 later I have an ins replacement on the way. Understand that I've been doin this for six months and this is the first time I've ever had a problem... so what happened? major hit to my confidence here!
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Your prob is due to the new phones that come with 2.2 don't always work with one click Odin. Should use the recovery work around for it instead
should of known....ugh... wish I would of known this yesterday I would of been $125 richer and minus one angry wife. What about my phone now? its runing cognition 4.4.2. In light of what's happened I'm thinking about going back to stock myself and staying there... Will odin work on my phone or is there another way?
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you could use the Odin one click for JH6, that'll take you back to eclair and you can use the Kies mini to update to 2.2 KB1
or...
you could use full odin to flash the 2.3.3 basic theres a great TUT for it. let me grab some links...
the TUT; http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...&highlight=tut
the odin to Eclair: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989&highlight=odin+one+click
if your going to choose the gingerbread path make sure you READ a lot.
And I wouldn't lose to much confidence over it. If you look at some of the "big shots" they usually have hard-bricked a captivate.
Thanks for the reply... yeah my confidence is bruised but its hard to turn back now. Just def don't ever wanna find myself in this situation ever again. I am interested in going to gingerbread, in fact very interested. I've started to look into it I'm gonna read more before I make the big jump.
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Thanks for the reply... yeah my confidence is bruised but its hard to turn back now. Just def don't ever wanna find myself in this situation ever again. I am interested in going to gingerbread, in fact very interested. I've started to look into it I'm gonna read more before I make the big jump.
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Good to know, just follow the tutorial to a T and you'll be all set
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Different versions of the captivate brick when you use the 1 click Odin. Use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995143
Wow same thing happened to me aswell, it scares you for future flashes.
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Next time, (hopefully there won't be a next time for you) you should first hit up samsung warranty first. If you have att, try them before samsung. I hard bricked my phone, sent it to samsung, they fixed it, no charge and sent it back. It took about 12 days, but it was FREE. Just an fyi.
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Jeepin' Rock Climber said:
Different versions of the captivate brick when you use the 1 click Odin. Use this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995143
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What happens if your running a gingerbread rom with updated bootloaders and you decide that you want to go back to froyo and elair. Is your only option odin one click to restore the bootloaders?, what if your captivate is one of those unlucky ones that like to brick with odin one click? Would you be stuck on gingerbread?
You can use 2.2 roms with gb bootloaders, they are backwards compatible. Just make sure there are no bootloaders in the rom you flash.
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Oh I see thanks.
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Wait so if i flashed gingerbread bootloaders and my phone is not compatible with odin one click, is there no way to get back onto froyo/eclair bootloaders? I understand that you can still flash froyo roms without bootloaders but you can always make a mistake and flash froyo bootladers bricking your phone.
You can use the regular JH6 flash back just not the one with the three button mod, this is because the three button mod replaces 1 out of 2 bootloaders and they won't match but the JH6 only replaces both (or none not sure) and they do match
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What's the difference between jf6 and jh6?
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Check stuff from studacris on this forum. He's very knowledgeable and helpful. I saw somewhere where he wrote about using odin one click to flash stock with any build. You'll get a bootloop, or a soft brick, and then put in download and flash the jf6 secure with odin. That way you have boots and stock. Don't quote me on any of this. I'm going off memory and might have some of this wrong. Don't want anyone mad at me for the wrong info. Just read into his posts, before trying any of this. You'll definitely learn a lot.
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This was what I was taking about.
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sounds like you have a later build phone that doesnt like odin one click...thats all your gonna get out of it is a bootloop
get into download mode and use this package:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=995143
if you go to gingerbread and want to revert back to stock bootloaders you will have to use one click, even though you will end up in a bootloop and then use the package i posted to get it up and running completly sotck.
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So, when I got my first Captivate, I got into my epic Android zone with all the ROMs and all that good stuff and managed to mess all that up royally. Well I got my new one and made myself keep it at stock 2.2, but rooted (in case any cool apps came about needing root and CWM wouldn't flash correctly, got a bunch of E: errors so I am assuming that I don't have CWM installed anywhere). So, with this in mind, whenever (or should I say if they ever) they push the OTA update for gingerbread or allow non market apps (preferably both) do I need to be unrooted (meaning will they shut off my device once root is detected on from the OTA or will it just not be pushed because I'm rooted) or will it just push over my current ROM, possible recovery?, etc.?
EDIT: So, does the unroot function of superoneclick work or no?
Anyone care to touch this?
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for another stock update, just my two cents.
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.
When I had my rooted D1 I tried the OTA to see what would happen. I received in error saying that it did not work. I don't think it will work with a rooted phone????
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No it is easier to flash updates of your favorite rom if rooted. ; )
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mcord11758 said:
No it is easier to flash updates of your favorite rom if rooted. ; )
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Sorry, but I'm keeping it stock man...
okachowwa said:
Sorry, but I'm keeping it stock man...
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I know was just being a smuck. I don't think it matters if updating through kies
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Sorry, but I'm keeping it stock man...
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If you are rooted the OTA will fail, but then OTA from Att always fails. OTA updates are not safe to begin with but that is just my 2 cents
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If you are rooted the OTA will fail, but then OTA from Att always fails. OTA updates are not safe to begin with but that is just my 2 cents
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But, if it's through kies will it work?
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But, if it's through kies will it work?
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To be honest I am not sure. As I only run stock long enough to,find the info to get a custom rom. If I remember right it wipes the device kinda like Odin when flashing so you may be ok.
The first update that came out for captivate, I was rooted and it worked. Worked for many others. Then the update to 2.2 came out and those who were stock rooted lost root. Its just best to be stock with update. Those that had failed updates, the majority used dg's odin package to go back to stock. That's what I remember in the "let's figure this out" thread.
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The first update that came out for captivate, I was rooted and it worked. Worked for many others. Then the update to 2.2 came out and those who were stock rooted lost root. Its just best to be stock with update. Those that had failed updates, the majority used dg's odin package to go back to stock. That's what I remember in the "let's figure this out" thread.
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Does the unroot function from Superoneclick work? Or is there an unroot thing through adb because odin doesn't work with my computer
Use heimdall stock package. No problems that I know of.
boborone said:
Use heimdall stock package. No problems that I know of.
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I don't want to get back to stock, just unroot...
Money is on you'll just lose root.
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I don't want to get back to stock, just unroot...
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Don't know man. I think one click root has an unroot button. Never used it though.
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Money is on you'll just lose root.
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i was running 2.2 then used the kies to get 2.3.5 and all my programs were still on my phone but i lost root.
After I fixed my soft bricked captivate it was reverted back to éclair which I was aware of, I clicked check for updates and my phone found one which I assume would be froyo. I clicked install or what ever and after a minute or 2 the update failed (can't remember what it said) I tried it again and my phone told me I'm able to check for updates in another 23.5 hours. I called att and they told me that they'll call me this time tomorrow for assistance. Is there another way to update to froyo?
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If you have your heart set on stock, you'll need to use a program called Kies Mini - it's available through Samsung's site, and that should get you going where you want to be.
Mini Kies is safer than the OTA update that perma bricked many. Once you've modded your phone (rooted, etc.) kiss OTA goodbye, AT&T made it so you can't do OTA updates. I am pretty sure Mini Kies is on Samsung's site download it and follow the instructions.
edit: just looked up you beat me to it, lol, I type to slow!
I have mini on my pc, guessing that's how I got froyo In the first place. So I just hook phone upto pc, open keis and that's it?
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That's my understanding. I personally haven't used it, but that sounds right.
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That's my understanding. I personally haven't used it, but that sounds right.
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It's just finished and everything seems in order.
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OP update: fixed! Thanks! Fix was posted
My brother has a S5 g900a.. he's stuck on 4.4.2, ND3.. won't allow the OTA which is only the small 170mb (which from what I read was a ssmall bug fix blah blah blah.. well 4.4.4 is out OA1, well he can't update to it cuz the only OTA available is the small 170mb update which downloads fine but fails the install.. no 170 update means no 4.4.4 update.. can he Odin back to NCE to fix the OTA issues?? Anyone had luck with this? We even tried to use the stock recovery - update.zip from ext SD OA1 and when he did and it rebooted it still showed 4.4.2 as his FW.. I've read and read and all I see are people having issues but no good answer.. thanks guys (BTW I'm not accustomed to ATT nor the S5. I'm TMo Note 2 (and other phones) awaiting my Note 4 arrival tomorrow)
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My brother has a S5 g900a.. he's stuck on 4.4.2, ND3.. won't allow the OTA which is only the small 170mb (which from what I read was a ssmall bug fix blah blah blah.. well 4.4.4 is out OA1, well he can't update to it cuz the only OTA available is the small 170mb update which downloads fine but fails the install.. no 170 update means no 4.4.4 update.. can he Odin back to NCE to fix the OTA issues?? Anyone had luck with this? We even tried to use the stock recovery - update.zip from ext SD OA1 and when he did and it rebooted it still showed 4.4.2 as his FW.. I've read and read and all I see are people having issues but no good answer.. thanks guys (BTW I'm not accustomed to ATT nor the S5. I'm TMo Note 2 (and other phones) awaiting my Note 4 arrival tomorrow)
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i unrooted my s5 before and i went to accept that same update it downloads fine but whwn my phone would **** off to install it it would fail after 42%. so i did a factory reset and then redownloaded it and it installed fine. try it
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i unrooted my s5 before and i went to accept that same update it downloads fine but whwn my phone would **** off to install it it would fail after 42%. so i did a factory reset and then redownloaded it and it installed fine. try it
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He's factory reset it a few times already. I just instructed him to download NCE and flash via Odin. He did and is on NCE now, he checked for updates and of course there is a update.. he's updating now, I'm sure he'll have to go update to update til he gets back to where he was on 4.4.2 and then we'll see if the update he was originally trying but kept failing actually goes thru this time.. he's gonna text/call be soon with the results. I'll update with his progress soon.
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He ODIN'd back to NCE and OTAs still fail. So he's on a older version that he even started with the OTA issues.. don't make no sense. Told him to take it to Best Buy with a Samsung Experience team and have them flash the latest 4.4.4 .. what a bunch of BS. Glad I'm on TMo and my Note 4 arrives tomorrow. From the sounds of all the problems my Note 2 is better than a AT&T S5. Locked Bootloaders too? They screwed y'all. :thumbdown:
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He ODIN'd back to NCE and OTAs still fail. So he's on a older version that he even started with the OTA issues.. don't make no sense. Told him to take it to Best Buy with a Samsung Experience team and have them flash the latest 4.4.4 .. what a bunch of BS. Glad I'm on TMo and my Note 4 arrives tomorrow. From the sounds of all the problems my Note 2 is better than a AT&T S5. Locked Bootloaders too? They screwed y'all. :thumbdown:
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hes gotta go from nce to ne4 for it to even recognize the available ota.
Here
You need to make sure to search first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...to-root-g900aucu2aoa1-4-4-4-2-3-2015-t3021120
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You need to make sure to search first.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...to-root-g900aucu2aoa1-4-4-4-2-3-2015-t3021120
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OK.. what I gathered was:
Downgrade to NCE (using the downgrade_to_nce file) via odin
Then just sideload the nce_to_ng3, then the ng3_to_oa1 via stock recovery ..
That should bring him to the latest stock unrooted OA1? Or will he have to go back and flash the kernels as well ? I got him doing the downgrade and side loading the other 2 otas right now. So I guess we'll find out soon enough.. what a bunch of BS you gotta go through on the S5 AND its a locked bootloader?? SO glad I got a N4 instead of a S5 lol
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how are we suppose to unrooted. i been having issues restoring to factory.
help needed
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My brother has a S5 g900a.. he's stuck on 4.4.2, ND3.. won't allow the OTA which is only the small 170mb (which from what I read was a ssmall bug fix blah blah blah.. well 4.4.4 is out OA1, well he can't update to it cuz the only OTA available is the small 170mb update which downloads fine but fails the install.. no 170 update means no 4.4.4 update.. can he Odin back to NCE to fix the OTA issues?? Anyone had luck with this? We even tried to use the stock recovery - update.zip from ext SD OA1 and when he did and it rebooted it still showed 4.4.2 as his FW.. I've read and read and all I see are people having issues but no good answer.. thanks guys (BTW I'm not accustomed to ATT nor the S5. I'm TMo Note 2 (and other phones) awaiting my Note 4 arrival tomorrow)
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I think that you are over complicating the process of upgrading to 4.4.4 . Mine originally failed trying to pull the OTA from AT&T. However my phone was extremely de-bloated stock rom(NG3). Muniz's safestrap upgrade to 4.4.4 worked flawless for me. As long as you are confident using safestrap I recommend that, and plus it will be rooted when you are done.
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I think that you are over complicating the process of upgrading to 4.4.4 . Mine originally failed trying to pull the OTA from AT&T. However my phone was extremely de-bloated stock rom(NG3). Muniz's safestrap upgrade to 4.4.4 worked flawless for me. As long as you are confident using safestrap I recommend that, and plus it will be rooted when you are done.
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We got it working.. Went to the Troubleshooting portion of the OP in the How-To-Root.. basically my brother couldn't do OTA update.. from ND3 forward.. So we downgraded to NCE per the file suggested, then we manually sideloaded the other 2 OTA files.. Thanks y'all. Sorry I wasn't comprehending it. I DO read and search just sometimes don't get my head wrapped around it. Thanks!
BTW: we are stock unrooted and wanted to keep it that way
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We got it working.. Went to the Troubleshooting portion of the OP in the How-To-Root.. basically my brother couldn't do OTA update.. from ND3 forward.. So we downgraded to NCE per the file suggested, then we manually sideloaded the other 2 OTA files.. Thanks y'all. Sorry I wasn't comprehending it. I DO read and search just sometimes don't get my head wrapped around it. Thanks!
BTW: we are stock unrooted and wanted to keep it that way
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Glad you got it fixed, but you know you will go back to root LOL...I use to tell myself that I would never root bootloader phones unless there is a current firmware available to restore with ODIN in case I **** up. However I stopped caring when all the roots out don't trip KNOX and if it comes down to it I can just have a AT&T store reload my firmware after playing stupid..did that once lol..
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Glad you got it fixed, but you know you will go back to root LOL...I use to tell myself that I would never root bootloader phones unless there is a current firmware available to restore with ODIN in case I **** up. However I stopped caring when all the roots out don't trip KNOX and if it comes down to it I can just have a AT&T store reload my firmware after playing stupid..did that once lol..
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LOL. I never leave phones stock.. this was my brothers phone, he was on ND3 and couldn't receive OTA updates, was essentially stuck on 4.4.2 and upset cuz 4.4.4 is out already and awaiting 5.0 hopefully. So he was a bit ticked off lol. I'm still on my TMo Note 2 running Lollipop, my Note 4 will be here tomorrow.. me and my bro have our own houses and weren't near each other, and he never rooted or flashed before so it was a figuring it out, communicating to someone.who doesn't flash issue
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