[Q] Do I need to unroot for any stock updates? - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

So, when I got my first Captivate, I got into my epic Android zone with all the ROMs and all that good stuff and managed to mess all that up royally. Well I got my new one and made myself keep it at stock 2.2, but rooted (in case any cool apps came about needing root and CWM wouldn't flash correctly, got a bunch of E: errors so I am assuming that I don't have CWM installed anywhere). So, with this in mind, whenever (or should I say if they ever) they push the OTA update for gingerbread or allow non market apps (preferably both) do I need to be unrooted (meaning will they shut off my device once root is detected on from the OTA or will it just not be pushed because I'm rooted) or will it just push over my current ROM, possible recovery?, etc.?
EDIT: So, does the unroot function of superoneclick work or no?

Anyone care to touch this?
I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for another stock update, just my two cents.
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.

When I had my rooted D1 I tried the OTA to see what would happen. I received in error saying that it did not work. I don't think it will work with a rooted phone????
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No it is easier to flash updates of your favorite rom if rooted. ; )
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mcord11758 said:
No it is easier to flash updates of your favorite rom if rooted. ; )
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Sorry, but I'm keeping it stock man...

okachowwa said:
Sorry, but I'm keeping it stock man...
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I know was just being a smuck. I don't think it matters if updating through kies
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okachowwa said:
Sorry, but I'm keeping it stock man...
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If you are rooted the OTA will fail, but then OTA from Att always fails. OTA updates are not safe to begin with but that is just my 2 cents

zelendel said:
If you are rooted the OTA will fail, but then OTA from Att always fails. OTA updates are not safe to begin with but that is just my 2 cents
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But, if it's through kies will it work?

okachowwa said:
But, if it's through kies will it work?
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To be honest I am not sure. As I only run stock long enough to,find the info to get a custom rom. If I remember right it wipes the device kinda like Odin when flashing so you may be ok.

The first update that came out for captivate, I was rooted and it worked. Worked for many others. Then the update to 2.2 came out and those who were stock rooted lost root. Its just best to be stock with update. Those that had failed updates, the majority used dg's odin package to go back to stock. That's what I remember in the "let's figure this out" thread.

boborone said:
The first update that came out for captivate, I was rooted and it worked. Worked for many others. Then the update to 2.2 came out and those who were stock rooted lost root. Its just best to be stock with update. Those that had failed updates, the majority used dg's odin package to go back to stock. That's what I remember in the "let's figure this out" thread.
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Does the unroot function from Superoneclick work? Or is there an unroot thing through adb because odin doesn't work with my computer

Use heimdall stock package. No problems that I know of.

boborone said:
Use heimdall stock package. No problems that I know of.
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I don't want to get back to stock, just unroot...

Money is on you'll just lose root.

okachowwa said:
I don't want to get back to stock, just unroot...
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Don't know man. I think one click root has an unroot button. Never used it though.

dan_maran said:
Money is on you'll just lose root.
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i was running 2.2 then used the kies to get 2.3.5 and all my programs were still on my phone but i lost root.

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Update to Gingerbread, and Lose root??

So I have the latest rom.. Cm6 rc3.. I got this by using the one click Root method.. the app that you had to have, i don't have anymore due to wiping my phone..
I reinstalled the app and pressed unroot to see if I still could... I couldn't..
I then pressed root and it said that im already rooted..
By wiping my phone and losing that app, am i now stuck on root?..
I read somewhere around these forums that once gingerbread comes out for the nexus one, the people that have rooted their phone with the one click method will lose root once they update to 3.0.. Like everything will be back to normal, stock everything.. it'll be like you have never rooted in the first place..
Is that true?
P. S. I do love being rooted tho lol.
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most update will make you stock again, just like when update to froyo
but then some genius here will figure it out and BAM we're rooted again, so no worries man
ANY OTA update loses root. Just wait til gingerbread comes out and let Cyanogen or Paul gets root working on it before you flash it. Most likely it will erase all data and you gotta redownload and resync everything.
futango said:
ANY OTA update loses root. Just wait til gingerbread comes out and let Cyanogen or Paul gets root working on it before you flash it. Most likely it will erase all data and you gotta redownload and resync everything.
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Really? Wow ok.. Thanks fellas
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Creating the rooted rom is pretty easy. The problem is usually for devices that have updated to some manufacturer update that locked the device down more.
Stock updates reverts back to stock as many have already said.

Keep getting 2.2.1 updates after root. How can this be stopped?

Keep getting 2.2.1 updates after root. How can this be stopped? Its annoying to keep rooting only to get the system updates again and again. I'm rooting with a signed fr91 file. Any way to stop this?
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Upgrade to 2.2.1 frg83 then use the one click super root to root 2.2.1 you won't get the update any more u can find it in nexus wiki
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Download 'Quick Boot' from the market and use it to reboot the phone. Then, clear the update notification from the notification menu. The update message should go away for a while (mine lasted a week before it came back).
I'm still somewhat hesitant to upgrade to FRG83 and use SuperOneClick since some people in the thread are reporting problems. I love my phone how it is right now!
kornball said:
Download 'Quick Boot' from the market and use it to reboot the phone. Then, clear the update notification from the notification menu. The update message should go away for a while (mine lasted a week before it came back).
I'm still somewhat hesitant to upgrade to FRG83 and use SuperOneClick since some people in the thread are reporting problems. I love my phone how it is right now!
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Do manual rage root ... no problems.
nexusdue said:
Do manual rage root ... no problems.
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Agreed!
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nexusdue said:
Do manual rage root ... no problems.
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Are you and Memnoch30 referring to the post you laid out in another thread? I'm pretty sure you wrote detailed instructions on how to do the manual rage root using adb. Will this method work fine if all I want is to run stock 2.2.1 with root-requiring apps like setcpu and move2sd enabler? Sorry for being such a noob
kornball said:
Are you and Memnoch30 referring to the post you laid out in another thread? I'm pretty sure you wrote detailed instructions on how to do the manual rage root using adb. Will this method work fine if all I want is to run stock 2.2.1 with root-requiring apps like setcpu and move2sd enabler? Sorry for being such a noob
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Yes: Instructions
But read the whole thread to make sure you know what you are doing!!
Any other options? I'm not going to fr83 and unfamiliar with rage root.
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Why don't you install a custom rom and be done with it.
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Any other options? I'm not going to fr83 and unfamiliar with rage root.
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I just installed 2.2.1 and used the SuperOneClick method to root the phone again. I had to turn the phone off, run the program, and then boot the phone for it to work. I suggest you try this method. It couldn't be much simpler.
Now i keep getting the new firmware update message and i cant seem to turn it off even with the quickboot. Any ideas?
Install the update, root again. Now really, this "idea" is 1 message above yours - what made you post?
Hm i tried to update but failed, could be due to tampering of the build number that I did previously but after that it didn't bug me anymore, at least not for now. Will try the superoneclick one next time. Thanks.
It might be back in several days, but if you've tampered with the system and advanced the build number - it shouldn't appear anymore.
yeah i sure hope so. will know in a few days

12/16/2010 Captivate update. What is it?

Hi guys, I am a tmobile user so I don't have a captivate, but I do own a vibrant, nexus one, and nexus s.
I rooted my buddy's captivate a little while back. No custom rom or anything, just root, custom recovery, and such.
He just called me today and said he has a notification for an update and wants to know if he should get it. I told him no for now and I'll find out what it is.
So any of you captivate users get an update notification today 12/16/2010? What is it? Froyo? Is it safe to update with root and custom recovery?
No update afaik. It's probably jh7.
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curti.nogg said:
No update afaik. It's probably jh7.
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Ok so I just called him and he has f*3 I think he said? I don't even remember what he said but it was f something. Not jh7.
I guess would bring me to the question of whether we can just let the ota run it's course or if i need to take him back to stock first. Any thoughts? I'll call back and find out what exact version he is using if I need to. I'm kind of tired right now and forgot what he said.
Stock would be jf6 and the only ota the Captivate has received is jh7.
Edit: You should just flash a froyo rom imo.
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curti.nogg said:
Stock would be jf6 and the only ota the Captivate has received is jh7.
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Ok that's probably what he said, I just texted him to ask again. I knew it had a f in it though.
Do you know if i need to unroot and go back to stock recovery to update to jh7?
Ya he has jf6, just heard back from him. What is a stable everyday use 2.2 rom I should suggest to him? I'm guessing 2.3 will be ported soon too.
So no one knows if I have to unroot and revert the recovery to stock in order to get jh7 update safely? Currently on jf6 rooted with clockworkmod.
I've seen as others have also reported that if you have ever rooted your phone the OTA update to JH7 will fail. The phone will get to 50% in the update and fail. It could possibly even brick.
you would need to use the odin 1 click to update your buddies phone then re root it.
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you would need to use the odin 1 click to update your buddies phone then re root it.
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thank you, exactly the information I was looking for.
Old text message for update is old.
gunnyman said:
I've seen as others have also reported that if you have ever rooted your phone the OTA update to JH7 will fail. The phone will get to 50% in the update and fail. It could possibly even brick.
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It must be hit or miss. Had two phones and both rooted, with at the time oclf, and ain't bloatware removed. Both had ota go fine. But I guess better safe then sorry.
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Yea mine failed when I had attempted.
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I had been running the leaked Froyo and went back to stock. My OTA to JH7 always failed at 50%. I had to use Kies (what a piece of crap software) to finally get back to out of box. I had to return during 30 day for a continually crazy search button.

[Q] Rooting my Captivate

Is there a easier way to Root your captivate, I have tried several one click or different ways and have had no luck. Anybody can help me with this or point me in the right direction that works? the one click app don't work I really want to add and run other apps.
And also the KIES software does not work it never did. I really don't like the software even after trying the lite version. I like Droid Explorer. Oh yea this is on a 2.2 Froy OS
gottheit2005 said:
Is there a easier way to Root your captivate, I have tried several one click or different ways and have had no luck. Anybody can help me with this or point me in the right direction that works? the one click app don't work I really want to add and run other apps.
And also the KIES software does not work it never did. I really don't like the software even after trying the lite version. I like Droid Explorer. Oh yea this is on a 2.2 Froy OS
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Have you considered joining the party and flashing a custom ROM? They all come prerooted to make your lives easier. At least I know my ROMS, MikeyMikes and anything by designgears does. I have not tried the rest yet.
I would definitely follow adam's advice and just flash a new rom. here is a good tutorial to help you get started:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
Adam's roms are great as well as DG's. Give one of them a try and realize how good of a phone the captivate really is.
Paragon is pre rooted also.
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One click root / unroot
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yokozuna82 said:
One click root / unroot
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OP said one click doesn't work for him lol but op have you enabled usb debugging before trying out one click? Just asking to make sure. Although I recommend going the custom rom route as well
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If you are that stuck on rooting only, and one click really doesnt work for you (thats a first).
Google root captivate. A root update.zip should be very easy to find, put it on your internal sd card, reboot into recovery mode and select reinstall packages.
Id post one, but i am on my phone...
^ not going to be able to root on stock froyo at the recovery 3e wont let you install unsigned zips. The one workaround to this would be flashing a custom kernel via ODIN and then using that custom recovery to root.
Doh! I missed that.
Maybe odin to 2.1, and install a custom rom / kernel package...

Verizon update rolling out now: Build VS98012B

And no, it's not kit kit. I'll wait for the brave souls to experiment...
http://www.droid-life.com/2013/12/1...b-approved-and-ready-to-roll-out/#more-127919
Nothing about this update has me even thinking about switching back to stock for this. But thanks for the heads up.
Anyone have a copy of the stock recovery? Don't want to flash all the way back to stock but would like to take the update. Currently running tarp.
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I know this breaks root, but is it possible to root again or do we have to find a new way to root. I only want to root for tethering and debloat. Verizon sucks when they load everything they can on top of a phone that has a lot of apps already installed on it.
Best to get a copy of it to the devs. If it works like the razr, you can d/l but not install it and pull the file from cache.
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Use Titanium backup, and freeze Software Update MUC.
This should prevent you from getting the update.
yoinker23 said:
Use Titanium backup, and freeze Software Update MUC.
This should prevent you from getting the update.
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I don't see that file at all on Malladus 1.2.2 Rom under Titanium backup or root explorer......
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I don't see that file at all on Malladus 1.2.2 Rom under Titanium backup or root explorer......
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Yeah, I'm on stock, I assume the dev took the updater out of his rom. You'll have to confirm with him.
I've been trying to get this update but my phone isn't getting it oh well
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Nothing here yet either. But I am rooted with tons of mods. Not ready to lose everything over a silly OTA.
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player911 said:
Nothing here yet either. But I am rooted with tons of mods. Not ready to lose everything over a silly OTA.
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especially not, since you can get the benefits of the new radios, without accepting the whole update.
Will this for sure break root and would something like root keeper help at all?
I'm finally eligible for a contract upgrade device. If I were to buy a G2 today from Verizon, what are the odds it come with this update out of the box? I'd hate to buy a device I can't root and install custom ROMs on...
cant pull update??
so i am rooted but running stock.. anyone know why i cant pull the update??
Just flash the radio.. Its the only thing thats worth anything out of this update
NateK said:
I'm finally eligible for a contract upgrade device. If I were to buy a G2 today from Verizon, what are the odds it come with this update out of the box? I'd hate to buy a device I can't root and install custom ROMs on...
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I would say zero. I would imagine their stock is at least 1-2 months old. I have never bought a phone that didn't get an update the first day.
valen89 said:
so i am rooted but running stock.. anyone know why i cant pull the update??
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They usually release updates over a couple days for server reasons. I still haven't seen it either.
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I would say zero. I would imagine their stock is at least 1-2 months old. I have never bought a phone that didn't get an update the first day.
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That was my feeling as well. I thought I would wait until the S5 or HTC One 2 came out to upgrade, but based on the previous versions rooting/unlocked bootloader on VZW are highly unlikely.
I was brave and tried the update. Stock ROM, just rooted for tethering purposes. I tried twice and received an error code both times. Then a message stating the update was unsuccessful upon reboot. Boo...
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I was brave and tried the update. Stock ROM, just rooted for tethering purposes. I tried twice and received an error code both times. Then a message stating the update was unsuccessful upon reboot. Boo...
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Temp unroot and try again?
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