So I just recived my new nook color. Problem being, I'm downrange in Afghanistan, all I have is military network / no wifi. Any suggestions to skip the setup entirely so I can use my nook?
Otherwise I think it's going to sit around until I get back to the states in August.
I do have a personal laptop, I could download files burn to cd, move to my personal laptop and root the nook.. but only if it could root a stock nook. model no bnrv200
Any suggestions for my rather unique prediciment?
You should be able to skip the B&N setup entirely by following the steps for Auto-Nooter. You will have to update to 1.0.1 of the B&N firmware by downloading it from their site and loading it on to the internal memory. Once that has applied(just be patient, stare at it for 10 minutes until it does its thing), you can use a micro SD card loaded up with AutoNooter 2.2.18+ to gain root access, unlock the setup screen, etc. You will have to skip steps 10 and up - just leave the thing not signed in. I don't know if the B&N apps will throw a fit about not being signed in, but my hunch says you should get a working system out of it.
Stay safe!
EugeneKay said:
You should be able to skip the B&N setup entirely by following the steps for Auto-Nooter. You will have to update to 1.0.1 of the B&N firmware by downloading it from their site and loading it on to the internal memory. Once that has applied(just be patient, stare at it for 10 minutes until it does its thing), you can use a micro SD card loaded up with AutoNooter 2.2.18+ to gain root access, unlock the setup screen, etc. You will have to skip steps 10 and up - just leave the thing not signed in. I don't know if the B&N apps will throw a fit about not being signed in, but my hunch says you should get a working system out of it.
Stay safe!
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Yeah, that's sorta what I was thinking / hoping would work. I'll post some details of how I am able to get it up. (if I am able to get it up)
thanks
worked for me with auto-nooter, i never set up the b&n crap!
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worked for me with auto-nooter, i never set up the b&n crap!
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sweet, good to hear.. now if only it didn't take me a day to download.. and have it fail once already... someday, maybe by xmass i'll get it downloaded and be able to use it...
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I bought the Nook Color while visiting Boston few weeks ago and activated it in some random Apple store (free wifi!)
Now I'm wondering, if I ever need to activate it again while not in the US, are there any workarounds? or can it be activated from anywhere?
I activated mine from Hong Kong, no issues. afaik you don't have to be in the USA to activate it, the only thing about the NC is that you have to be in the States to buy books from B&N (and that is only IP-wise too) and go on Pandora.
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I activated mine from Hong Kong, no issues. afaik you don't have to be in the USA to activate it, the only thing about the NC is that you have to be in the States to buy books from B&N (and that is only IP-wise too) and go on Pandora.
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Ok good to know
One more question, when I load my own epubs to the nook, they show up in all the right places except for the home screen, there are only the b&n books, any way to get my own epubs there?
Activated in Spain with no problems. The only issue is you can't buy anything out of USA.
Yeah it works. I still hope someone here finds a way to circumvent the activation / registration process. Nobody knows how much the nook is phoning home to B&N.
Also, some versions of the classic nook firmware forced registration like the nc, and B&N filtered non US IP addressss...
Their TOS allow them to disable your device by deactivating your account. So if our NOOKs for instance send back lists of installed apps, B&N would know that we rooted (went against their TOS) and could deregister our device ... yeah, all this might not be a big deal since accounts can be easily created again, but that again might change.
that's a great news, I order my NC today, but I live in france.
Is there a way to root before registering?
Yeah, I believe for our rooting method it doesn't matter when we do it.
Now, even if you are rooted you'd have to know which files to change so that the registration Wizard doesn't come up. Maybe you could just kill the process of the wizard via adb, but you might have to do this at every boot and maybe the wizard is part of some larger app, like the DeviceManager.apk that has to run in the background all the time.
You can test and unregister, then register again via the menus. So maybe analyzing the data partition's differences in between could help us find the important files.
On a registered device I already tested deleting /data/system/accounts.db, which caused my name etc. to disappear from he device info. Still the wizard did not come up again, and I believe there must be another place where the nook saves a account ID or at least a bit that says, "wizard is finished". I also tried to delete the data directory for the device manager. This simply caused a notification to appear at reboot, that my device has been updated. (Of course it hasn't been updated). Still no wizard to be seen and root was left untouched.
Hi
My Nook is rooted and is great. However I'm needing to deregister it so the new owner can use it.
Whats the best way to do this? I'm not 100% sure I actually have the B&N password as I'll never order from them being in the UK.
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B&N got shipments in today, it was the first shipment after the 2 week delay message and all the rumors of lock downs.
I bought one and it appears on the outside that it has no sticker or anything to make me thinking it has a newer modified bootloader but before i open the box i want to make sure all the nooks that came in today arent modified?
Also, is there anything that should be done when i first get it besides registered a b&n account if i plan on rooting, loading froyo or honeycomb etc? I want to make sure i dont boot it up for the first time and all of a sudden it downloads some new update and locks it down or something.
there is so much happening with this device on a daily basis on all the sites, i cant keep up with it all, it appears autonook 3.0.0 after flashing 1.1.0 is my best bet ?
thanks again guys.
Thats what I have been told autonook 3.0.0
bought the wife a NC on saturday. all bestbuy's around the KC area were out of stock but the B&N by us had a bunch so we picked it up. it came loaded with version 1.0.0 and has yet to autoupdate. ill probably update it to 1.1.0 today or tomorrow. i mentioned rooting to her and what it does and now she wants it done. ive been reading up on that and it seems relatively simple.
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B&N got shipments in today, it was the first shipment after the 2 week delay message and all the rumors of lock downs.
I bought one and it appears on the outside that it has no sticker or anything to make me thinking it has a newer modified bootloader but before i open the box i want to make sure all the nooks that came in today arent modified?
Also, is there anything that should be done when i first get it besides registered a b&n account if i plan on rooting, loading froyo or honeycomb etc? I want to make sure i dont boot it up for the first time and all of a sudden it downloads some new update and locks it down or something.
there is so much happening with this device on a daily basis on all the sites, i cant keep up with it all, it appears autonook 3.0.0 after flashing 1.1.0 is my best bet ?
thanks again guys.
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I would burn a honeycomb or nookie froyo sd card. Then open the box, put in the sd card and turn it on. If it boots into one of those roms you should be able to root it
@cray. I got a Nook Color from a brand new BN shipment yesterday too. It came with 1.0.1 already installed.
These are the steps I like to follow:
1) register it with BN
2) turn off wireless ASAP after OOBE (out of the box experience) finishes
3) download updates from BN.com using my computer and install by sideloading onto NC (i didn't bother since i am fine with 1.0.1)
4) turn off NC, insert microSD and proceed to with autonooter rooting process
5) enable ADB (optional)
6) change OTA updates to manual
After that you're free to do whatever because your NC is registered and rooted.
If you're careful about turning wifi off when you are done playing with it, you shouldn't get any of the OTA updates. You can also flash a zip that will block OTA for 1.1 if you don't want to run on that version.
I have seen posts that with Autonooter 3.0 you can't install CWR (Clockworkmod Recovery), which makes it harder to apply the overclocking kernels if you were planning to do that. Or any other modifications that uses CWR. I would personally go to 1.0.1 (if you're not already out of the box) and apply Autonooter 2.12.25 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=872490). Then apply Decad3nce's V1.1.0_r2 ROM (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932145). This route takes more time but maximizes the potential of the NOOKcolor.
Is there any reason to register your Nook with B&N other then purchasing book to read on it?
I picked up a Nook a couple days ago and immediately used Nookie and Honeycomb from the SDCard. I've only booted and seen the intro video/setup once but never completed the setup.
I'm still not sure if I ever really plan on using the Nook with it's base software. I'll most likely flash the internal memory when the Honeycomb official source comes out and things get real stable.
I can't imagine that not registering will effect anything, but I just want to make sure I'm not overlooking something. I don't want it to bite me in the ass down the road.
I mainly want to make sure if I ever do boot into the stock setup that it doesn't auto update in the future and possibly complicate rooting the device.
Gonna bump this one up instead of creating my own. Tried searching, but there's so many threads about registering, I couldn't find anything about not registering, aside from this single thread. I also come from SD Froyo, where there's no registration, and don't care about anything having to do with B&N aside from the hardware itself. From some of the "lost registration" threads, all we lose is access to the B&N library/store, is that all? Considering finally moving over to CM7 flashed directly to the NC.
if youre not on stock rom, registering is useless!
That's what I thought, even though most of the builds still warn you to register before flashing. Like the CM7 guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
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That's what I thought, even though most of the builds still warn you to register before flashing. Like the CM7 guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
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That is only so you could use B&N market for buying books... etc.
I had a wifi only Tab before so I'm not unfamiliar with Tab devices. Or so I thought. I bought a Sprint Tab off Woot recently. I sold the Wifi Tab on ebay and basically traded up for better hardware at no cost.
Anyway, the Tab from Sprint came in today and I find I have two questions.
1. This Tab appears to have no internal memory. When I go to settings for the SD card, it only sees my external card. That's also all that maps on my computer. The Wifi Tab had either 8 or 16 gb internal plus and external card. Is this normal?
2. I was under the impression that I was going to have to activate this thing with Sprint for at least a month. That doesn't appear to be the case though. It does gripe at me to activate, but doesn't seem to be forcing me to do so and even without being activated has pulled down at least two OTA updates. Is this normal?
1. This Tab appears to have no internal memory. When I go to settings for the SD card, it only sees my external card. That's also all that maps on my computer. The Wifi Tab had either 8 or 16 gb internal plus and external card. Is this normal?
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Your internal memory is not an sd card. It isn't listed in that section.
2. I was under the impression that I was going to have to activate this thing with Sprint for at least a month. That doesn't appear to be the case though. It does gripe at me to activate, but doesn't seem to be forcing me to do so and even without being activated has pulled down at least two OTA updates. Is this normal?
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Pulling down the updates occurs over wifi, it will happen regardless of CDMA service.
If you want to get rid of the hassles:
First root, use superoneclick, its the easiest method.
Then use a program such as root uninstaller to uninstall sprintadroidextension.apk (you can also freeze it, allegedly).
Once you do this, be aware that if Sprint updates it won't download properly and start harassing you about that instead (albeit less frequently). The only solutions are to reflash back to stock and then update, or modify your build.prop file to change the build id (I used remount and notepad to do it).
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Your internal memory is not an sd card. It isn't listed in that section.
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It was on my wifi tab.
Pulling down the updates occurs over wifi, it will happen regardless of CDMA service.
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It pulled down two updates before I even connected it to my wifi.
I rooted with SuperOneClick and now have these OTA's downloading... I'm wondering what the pro's and con's are with taking these two OTA's? Have you already rooted prior to taking the OTA's?
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I rooted with SuperOneClick and now have these OTA's downloading... I'm wondering what the pro's and con's are with taking these two OTA's? Have you already rooted prior to taking the OTA's?
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No, I got the OTA's before rooting. I turned it on and one was there. It rebooted and another was there right away.
Well I guess I'll find out when I get home if it loses root, which I assume can be restored again... rather, I hope :]
I guess next for me is recovery... seems like the UnLocker page has a nice write up, but I seen mixed reviews on Sprint tabs. I always have a certain degree of comfort when I'm able to backup/recover.
You given that any thought yet? Or you keeping it stock?
Honestly, the only reason I root is because of backup. I like being able to get a core level backup with Titanium and I like being able to restore all of my apps plus all their data on a new device. I've rooted every tablet I've owned (all three of them) but never tried to flash a new ROM or even considered it.
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Honestly, the only reason I root is because of backup. I like being able to get a core level backup with Titanium and I like being able to restore all of my apps plus all their data on a new device. I've rooted every tablet I've owned (all three of them) but never tried to flash a new ROM or even considered it.
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I hear that! My intentions for buying this was simply to modify it to run HC once Spacemoose gets a stable build up.
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Honestly, the only reason I root is because of backup. I like being able to get a core level backup with Titanium and I like being able to restore all of my apps plus all their data on a new device. I've rooted every tablet I've owned (all three of them) but never tried to flash a new ROM or even considered it.
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Have you seen this video/write-up from TheUnlocker?
I'm thinking I may give this a shot to get CWM recovery... debating if I want to chance screwing up my device on day 1 though :]
I can still return my NT. It's clear that BN doesn't want one to root or sideload apps. Lots of the sideloaded apps don't behave properly and some menus are invisible. It's difficult to install non stock keyboards. Now with the latest OTA update we have to find a way to re-root and sideloading apps doesn't work anymore.
My question to the group is: If I get a Color, root it and load CM7, will that guarantee that on OTA update won't mess up anything? Do you have the same problem with apps not behaving right under CM7.
Thanks for your input.
If you load CM7 to the emmc, you will never receive an OTA update as you will no longer be running the B&N modified OS. You can always run CM7 from SD card and leave the stock B&N OS on the emmc. That way you can switch between running CM7 and the reader software (which, for reading I believe is superior). Just depends on what you want to do with it.
As far as application issues. You may run into an app or two there that doesn't behave well, but overall my experience is that most of everything that I've loaded on it runs without a problem.
Is it possible for an update to prevent the loading of CM7 from the SD card?
If I understand what you are saying, yes.
There are two popular methods to running CM7 on the NC.
1) Wiping the B&N OS and loading CM7 directly to the internal memory (emmc) and using the SD card as storage only.
2) Leaving the B&N OS on internal memory and having CM7 run directly off SD card (since the NC reads SD before internal memory). B&N updates will not interfere with CM7 on the SD card.
Either way is up to you. I can't say which way is more popular as there are a ton of users that do it each way.
If you want to review the methods, search for eyeballer's guide (load to emmc) or verygreen's guide (booting off SD) and choose which one is best for you.
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Is it possible for an update to prevent the loading of CM7 from the SD card?
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I believe it's possible for BN to prevent you booting from SD card through an update, but I don't see why they would bother at this point. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
CM7 from SD card... BN update concerns
Thank goodness for this thread. I've been trying to figure a few things out since I read the news about the BN update yesterday.
My situation is this: I am getting a Nook Color (NC) for Christmas in a few days. I've already formatted a microSD card to run CM7 on it, but obviously I can't mess with it until I open it. It won't have the update when I take it out of the box, so I know i have time to do something if I need to. But what exactly is locked down on the NC with this update?
That is, if I'm dual-booting from the SD card, I'll still be able to install whatever apps I want on the Android side, yes? I just won't be able to load (or "sideload") those apps into the NookOS? I understand that this is a much worse deal for Nook Tablet owners, but it seems I just lucked out, yeah?
Thanks for reading! As you can see, I'm brand new to all this!
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I believe it's possible for BN to prevent you booting from SD card through an update, but I don't see why they would bother at this point. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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I suppose they would bother for the same reason they're trying to keep us (the NT people) from rooting and sideloading.
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That is, if I'm dual-booting from the SD card, I'll still be able to install whatever apps I want on the Android side, yes? I just won't be able to load (or "sideload") those apps into the NookOS? I understand that this is a much worse deal for Nook Tablet owners, but it seems I just lucked out, yeah?
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Yes. The B&N OS won't be rooted so you can't load anything outside their market, but you can install everything to the CM7 SD card. In fact I don't even think you'd have to register the nook or boot it into the B&N OS. You should be able to boot right from SD.
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I believe it's possible for BN to prevent you booting from SD card through an update, but I don't see why they would bother at this point. I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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No, I'm pretty sure the Color is safe from any changes to the boot order. The very first steps of the boot process are in hardware and so are the configuration settings for which device it checks first for x-loader and the rest of the boot process. I think the only way to change that order is shorting out or adding resistors to certain pins on the system board
A short answer to make it clear.
No, if you run CM7 from SD or any other way, then B&N cant do anything against it as the boot order is set into stone by the hardware.
Thats the main reason why the NC can still compete so well against its bigger brother.
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It's quite clear from the responses that the NC is preferable as an Android tablet over the NT. I'm inclined to switch, however is the NC hardware adequate? Is the screen and speed acceptable compared to the NT. Will I have a "real" tablet but be disappointed in the performance?
Do Netflix movies appear acceptable?
Lower your expectation, then.
What you intend to use "this tablet" for? Heavily watching video? streaming movies? playing games?... If that's the case, I think you need a better hw spec.
Although not dual core by the time a Nook Color is overclocked and running an optimized CM7 it gives a pretty good experience in my opinion.
Pretty smooth navigation and no problem with standard definition movies or regular games.
Anyone actually upgraded to 1.4.1 and tested SD boot
If we can net this out even further.... Has anyone actually upgraded their Nook Color to the new version (1.4.1?) and verified that they can still boot from their SD card?
I agree with the opinions that it is in hardware and BN's upgrade should not have any effect, but I'd like to know if someone has actually done it and can confirm the SD card boot still works OK after the upgrade.
Thanks!!!!
If you need power for the same / less money of a NC get a Novo 7 Advanced.
It runs everything from 2.3 to 4.0 and has a 1.0 ghz dual core, dual cams, mic, etc.
However its 800x480 resolution only, if you dont mind you might just get that one.
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If we can net this out even further.... Has anyone actually upgraded their Nook Color to the new version (1.4.1?) and verified that they can still boot from their SD card?
I agree with the opinions that it is in hardware and BN's upgrade should not have any effect, but I'd like to know if someone has actually done it and can confirm the SD card boot still works OK after the upgrade.
Thanks!!!!
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Yes, I have 1.4.1 stock on internal emmc, and run CM7.1 stable off my uSD card.
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Yes, I have 1.4.1 stock on internal emmc, and run CM7.1 stable off my uSD card.
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Can you side-load any app that not offered by B&N on your NC running v1.4.1?
I have my NC running 1.4.1 rooted, and am able to sideload apps at will (within the memory limitations of 1.4.1). I did run the fix to (hopefully) prevent further B&N OTA updates, so I expect it to stay this way for a while. I also dual-boot to CM on SD card.