Eclair with lagfix faster than Froyo with lagfix - Galaxy S I9000 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have just flashed a lag fix onto my phone, and tested it using Quadrant, only to find that it's around over 800 less than what I was getting before.
I had Eclair on my phone, with a lagfix, and qudrant gave me well over 2000 for a score, now with Froyo and a lagfix, I only get 1200..
How could there be such a big difference? I used SpeedMod Froyo for the lagfix on the Froyo version, but I don't know what the name was for the Eclair version..
Is this common? That froyo would be slower than eclair with a lagfix?
Denno

SpeedMod is the kernel, not lagfix (if i'm not mistaken).
Lagfix refers to universal lagfix by sztupy or voodoo by supercurio.
I might be wrong

Oh right.. Am I able to install a lag fix as well then?? There is talk about lag fixing in the SpeedMod thread, so that's why I assumed it was a lag fixer..

yes you can, For supercurio's Voodoo,
http://project-voodoo.org/
For Sztupy's Universal Lagfix, you need to refer to the post in xda. Mine comes with Doc's custom rom.

Oh wow, so if I'm getting 1200 without a lag fix, then it should go pretty damn nice when I do apply one. However there were options for a lag fix in the boot menu, and I have applied those already...
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denno020 said:
Oh right.. Am I able to install a lag fix as well then?? There is talk about lag fixing in the SpeedMod thread, so that's why I assumed it was a lag fixer..
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You need to activate the lagfix in SpeedMod kernel. Reboot to recovery, go to lagfix option (or something similar) and choose your lagfix schemes. I recommend the "No-RFS EXT4". Try not to use JFS lagfix since it is known to be quite unstable.
After enabling it, reboot your phone, it will then prompt you with multiple backup options.
I recommend you doing a "backup and restore" if you have important apps in your phone.

I did already go through the boot menu, but to be honest, I had no idea what I was choosing. I can't remember the exact one I went for though, but it did have something like ext in the name.
So that would mean this is as fast as my phone will get?
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will this help?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkYFgWVYSMM&feature=related

denno020 said:
I did already go through the boot menu, but to be honest, I had no idea what I was choosing. I can't remember the exact one I went for though, but it did have something like ext in the name.
So that would mean this is as fast as my phone will get?
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Yes, it would mean that your phone would be more responsive at the expense of battery life.
However, some lagfix options are rather unstable and could lead to crashes/force closes...
So I'd recommend you using the "No-RFS Ext4"

Thanks for the youtube video, confirms what I did what the right way lol.
But to be honest, I'm a little disappointed with how fast my phone is with the lagfix...
Although it is better than stock, so I guess I can't complain too much.
Denno

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Do we need to use lagfix with Cognition Froyo

Cause well it is froyo and has jit? my phone spontaneously corrupted overnight so i need to do a reformat :[
rsx19 said:
Cause well it is froyo and has jit? my phone spontaneously corrupted overnight so i need to do a reformat :[
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Cog comes with a lagfix. works great too
From my personal experience. No. I put my phone up against a coworker running Cog wiht the lagfix. I see no difference. I love Cognition, been running DG's work since Super Rooter. But in this case, I already did everything manually and the lagfix doesn't seem to make a difference. I'll wait for Voodoo, which apparently will be a while. But that's ok.
Ever since jh7 there has been no need for a lag fix.
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[Q] Froyo 2.2 and VOODOO lag fix.

hi.
I have galaxy S I9000 froyo 2.2 official. Orange rom.
I currently use Z4ROOT with RyanZA OCLF version 2.2.8. Benchmark score is around 1800.
I read somwehre that the VOODOO lag fix is better.
Can it work with froyo 2.2? Do I need to root my phone with other application? (uninstall Z4ROOT)?
I'm asking this since the phone is still laggy in some parts, like waiting for it to load the contact list.
Thanks.
You usualy get lower benchmark scores but better real life performance with Voodoo.
It does work with Froyo, but you have to flash it via Odin. Remove oclf first though. And pretty sure you can keep z4root, but if you remove it, it's easy to root using Voodoo.
Edit: You could also get better performance by debranding your phone. Operator bloatware just slows it down.
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Bess833 said:
You usualy get lower benchmark scores but better real life performance with Voodoo.
It does work with Froyo, but you have to flash it via Odin. Remove oclf first though. And pretty sure you can keep z4root, but if you remove it, it's easy to root using Voodoo.
Edit: You could also get better performance by debranding your phone. Operator bloatware just slows it down.
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What does it mean better life performance? In what way? Is it smoother and faster?
And what id Odin? I'm kinda noob at this. I got my phone last week. My first android.
It means that while OCLF provides better benchmark scores, Voodoo provides better user experience - it's snappier, faster, smoother, generally better (for most, anyways). Not by a huge groundbreaking margin though.
Odin is a tool you use to flash firmwares/kernels/etc to your phone using your PC.
If you want to flash Voodoo, I suggest you remove OCLF (you can remove z4root too, but you shouldn't have to) and then read this.
You do not need to root for voodoo to work so if the only reason you rooted was to put OCLF on you can use Z4root and unroot. other wise just remove Remove all the OCLF fixes made and uninstall it. then follow the tutorial that was nicely provided above.
Thanks. I'll try that.
does it take up 1GB from the internal ram as well? the link is not working.
can someone make a tutorial video how to install the voodoo lagfix on the phone!!!! or make it step by step instruction clearly!!!!!pleaaasseeee
nazrazr said:
can someone make a tutorial video how to install the voodoo lagfix on the phone!!!! or make it step by step instruction clearly!!!!!pleaaasseeee
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Just click the link I posted above and read it? It says everything you have to do.
Here is the link again. Of course this is if you have Froyo.
wow this is really complicated. This is way technical.
where do I find galaxy drivers and how can I backup my info?
Is there a simpler guide? something that has every tool to help through the process?
Where is /efs folder? can't find it.
Its not complicated at all, just load the file via odin, press a few buttons on the phone click on Flash and then it works
It really isn't complicated. Assuming you connected your PC with your phone already, you have drivers. Make sure you close KIES before proceeding though. So all you have to do is:
1. Remove any other lagfixes that you may have
2. Go to Download mode
3. In odin, put the VooDoo file as PDA and do nothing else in there
4. Plug your phone in, wait for Odin to find and recognize it, maybe install drivers if that's the first time you work with it
5. Hit Start
ok I've done it. I don't really see any improvement. but benchmark shows 1500.
is there another indication for the phone being fast?
The only indication is you. How does it feel - faster, smoother, less laggy, etc. You are the judge of that really, no benchmark scores..
I also just finished apply the Voodoo 5 by following the link given..
the step is so easy.. perfect..
but before im doing this.. i already factory reset it.. mean it look new
so.. how do I knw that the Voodoo is perfectly installed?
but I noticed there's already superuser there is that all?
Is there a folder Voodoo with folder logs in it on your int. SD card? If so it should be installed correctly. Also check Quadrant scores. Should be obvious that it's snappy too.
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Bess833 said:
Is there a folder Voodoo with folder logs in it on your int. SD card? If so it should be installed correctly. Also check Quadrant scores. Should be obvious that it's snappy too.
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just check it.. yes there's Voodoo folder in my SD..
lazy to check the Quadrant.. will start to install apps & games again
thanks ^_^
You can also check by going to settings and then "about phone" and u should see [email protected]#6 as the kernel.
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Is there any battery drainage issue with this version?
Chuckle75 said:
Is there any battery drainage issue with this version?
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Nope none.

Carphone Warehouse Galaxy S

Hi guys,
I am looking to finally get rid of the lag on my phone (I know theres milions of root questions about
I am currently on O2 through carphone warehouse which means my offical ROM is Froyo 2.2 xxJPO
When booting in recovery mode i have version 3e which i believe means I can use z4root followed by RyanZA OCLF. I was wondering what other JPO users have used to fix there lag?, is OCLF my best option?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=833953
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=784691
Also I have read somewhere that it is advisable before doing this to move all your apps from the SD card to your phone. I have since downloaded Advanced SD card and done this. But is this just moving the apps t0 my internal, external SD card. Did it mean move the to my external micro SD?
Cheers guys
Regards Jim
Well if you want a easy lagfix then i guess Oclf is best.
But if you want to learn about the phone and you are good in tweaking and flashing stuff i would choose other more real lagfix.
Like z4mod or speedmod kernels.
With that kind of lagfix you will get a better phone.
And you don't need a 3e part program to move the apps.
That is already in froyo.
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thanks for the reply,
Have just managed install z4root and OCLF ok.
I had a few dramas with the lagfix though. I tried v2.2 but that crashed so i had to do a factory reset and install v1 which has worked just fine.
Quadrant score went from 960 to 1850
Might have to venture into the world of ROMS now
Regards Jim
Benson881 said:
thanks for the reply,
Have just managed install z4root and OCLF ok.
I had a few dramas with the lagfix though. I tried v2.2 but that crashed so i had to do a factory reset and install v1 which has worked just fine.
Quadrant score went from 960 to 1850
Might have to venture into the world of ROMS now
Regards Jim
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Good You got it to work.
When you do start with kernels and other Rom you will se a much better phone.
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Just been looking at ROMS and it seems that quite a few have lagfix included in them. Does this mean the ones i have installed will be come redundant? it seems quite complicated. I have already got CWM installed with ROM manager for when i start messing
Regards Jim
Benson881 said:
Just been looking at ROMS and it seems that quite a few have lagfix included in them. Does this mean the ones i have installed will be come redundant? it seems quite complicated. I have already got CWM installed with ROM manager for when i start messing
Regards Jim
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The lagfix you got installed is a basic and simple one.
When you move to more advanced thing then Oclf is no use.
But you must undo everything you did with that.
First just try a custom kernel and get a feel how odin work and how to flash.
You can then do what you want.
Myself have only my own kernel with z4mod lagfix.
I don't feel any custom rom is for me.
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[Q] Lagfix options

I have rooted my phone using the Onclick rooting software, that seems to have been a success.
However, I tried using teh OCLF from market to lagfix it but nothing seem to have happened in the 30mins I let it do its thing. THe progress bar goes full then start again, and does this repeatedly. And after reading around some people say that's now out dated and other lag fixes should be more suitable
So, now that my Samsung G S is rooted, what options for lagfixes do I have?
Hi, im asking the same questions
Hi, i am in uk running stock froyo 2.2, I have rooted my phone using Z4root, but I want to put a lagfix on, I have read that OCLF isnt very good anymore, and voodoo you have to install a new rom and im not brave enough to do anything like that so which is the best lagfix i can use and i have heard about overclocking what does that mean? thanks in advance
can anyone help us please
TheSippler said:
So, now that my Samsung G S is rooted, what options for lagfixes do I have?
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Besides the fact I dont know whats a Samsung G S and no idea what your ROM version is you could do what I did. But depends on your ROM and SGS version!!!
But its on all your risk. Read manuals and warnings to the kernel and the app. You have been warned (I have done this on 2 SGS mine and my friends till now , he has 2.2 stock rom and I 2.2.1 stock JPY too)
Took the neldar kernel flasher , backed up my stock kernel.
Then flashed the speedmod CWM version with the kernel flasher, kernel you can find in the speedmod kernel thread.
Applied the tweaks and lagfixes (ext4) from the recovery. done
and that was it. btw when you do this, try to run the rom WITHOUT the lagfixes, just with the new kernel so you can easily get back to your stock. If you want more, then go to the recovery ULK options and do the recommended tweaks from there. If you still need it, then apply the lagfixes (always backup and always on your own risk)
kezgez said:
and voodoo you have to install a new rom and im not brave enough to do anything like that so which is the best lagfix i can use and i have heard about overclocking what does that mean? thanks in advance
can anyone help us please
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Not sure you have to install another rom, but I do not know the the original voodoo kernel . Maybe you could try with the one I suggested up there.Btw there is more kernels to choose from, depends on your Galaxy Version and ROM.
Overclocking is nothing you should be concerned with yet I think there is a pretty big speed jump from stock to custom kernel, then from custom tweaks and also to lagfixes. If you are not satisfied then you can try that. OC should make the phone faster. In my opinion though the 1GHz is enough for the phone. With OC come some risks (heat, battery usage, stability)
Last night I managed to get the OCLF working on the phone and noticed improvements. Now that I have a lagfix working, will OCLF be alright to leave on there? Or do you still recommend going to somethign else? (I didn't quite understand why OCLF is being considered out dated anyway).
Install the new version (2.2.1) and lagfix is of no need anymore.
Completely satisfied with a smooth running Galaxy now.
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Last night I managed to get the OCLF working on the phone and noticed improvements. Now that I have a lagfix working, will OCLF be alright to leave on there? Or do you still recommend going to somethign else? (I didn't quite understand why OCLF is being considered out dated anyway).
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Well keep the lagfix you have now. If you wanted try something else you would have to undo the changes you have done till now. If it works and you like it keep it..
To plexat: yes the 2.2.1 it's sufficient in speed.
In my case though I had to do already 2 factory reset once cuz the phone didn't start at all and in time even the 2.2.1 became slow. I installed the custom kernel though just for the sharpness fix but was surprised with the lower battery usage and speed. There is still a big speed jump from stock to custom
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thankyou for your help, ive got the kernal flasher and kernal thread but can you just confirm for me what I have to do with the kernal thread sorry but ive not done this before and really dont want to damage my phone thanks again Karen
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thankyou for your help, ive got the kernal flasher and kernal thread but can you just confirm for me what I have to do with the kernal thread sorry but ive not done this before and really dont want to damage my phone thanks again Karen
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Ok man, first of all. You have stock 2.2 but which phone exactly?
In the kernel thread, is written for which phones it is and also for which ROM.
So if it fits yours. You can try what I wrote you somewhere up. Backup, flash the CWM version etc.
First make sure though if you have the correct kernel for your ROM and phone. AND you shouldn't have any other type lagfixes applied.
Thats kinda all. What you can do if you have root, without any trouble, is backup your kernel with the app. Then verify if other things fit. And you can try to flash a custom kernel.
EDIT: Why are you still on 2.2? I mean UK had as one of the first 2.2.1 and plexat is right. 2.2.1 is faster and smoother as 2.2 ? If you dont have any lagfixes or other custom things applied you should kinda update to 2.2.1
Hi Pagot, I checked I had the right kernel and stuff and YIPPEE ive done it, my heart was in my mouth but i took the plunge and it now says i have the kernel above, it does seem more responsive and quicker although the benchmark still says the same? the reason I have still got 2.2 is because I have a branded o2 phone and they havent released it yet for branded phones and i am scared to try and flash it to 2.2.1 is there anything i can now do to speed it up anymore ie lag fixes and things thanks for your help
Glad it worked for you
Well not sure about upgrading the rom with a custom kernel. Am new at this too . So dont flash a rom yet.
From what I asked in the speedmod kernel thread. It should be safe to put back the stock backup kernel you made with the app and then to update if its out. Thats just for 2.2.1 upgrade for you in the future. The condition is however no lagfixes applied!!! If you have them applied it can and will probably go bad on the update!!!
kezgez said:
does seem more responsive and quicker although the benchmark still says the same?
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Ok please dont look at the score. Mine is actually worse as on the stock kernel if you are talking about quadrant. They are irrelevant.
If your phone feels right, leave it as it is
If you want to tweak it little more. Get to the recovery and there are some tweaks,should be still safe to make. They are marked as recommended in the ULK options.
I wouldn't suggest yet to apply a lagfix. Try it how it feels now. If it starts getting bad and laggy etc. Then experiment with that. I had a lagfix but reverted back, for me the speed is sufficient how it is now
Since you have now CWM you can even backup your whole phone.
If you dont know how to go to the recovery the 3 button combo. There are many nice tools in the market for that. I personally use SGS toolbox/tools, in it is a shorcut with reboot to recovery.
When you are there. the BACK button is actually like OK so beware of that!!! You navigate with the volume button UP/DOWN and confirm with home or back.
Thanks again, been in and enabled tweeks, just so as I no, I noticed in recovery there is a lagfix option is this where i go to apply this and if I do it how do I disable it if I want to
Also you said I could backup my phone now how do I do this Thanks again
Wow my phone is really speedy now thanks for all the help I've now flashed kernel tweaked and applied lagfix and all is well I've backed up my phone as well
YIPPIE
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kezgez said:
Wow my phone is really speedy now thanks for all the help I've now flashed kernel tweaked and applied lagfix and all is well I've backed up my phone as well
YIPPIE
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Ha seriously glad for you . One day you have no idea about anything, the next day you run a custom kernel with lagfixes and tweaks.
When you get to it, its kinda not so difficult. (It took me kinda a half year )
PAGOT said:
Ha seriously glad for you . One day you have no idea about anything, the next day you run a custom kernel with lagfixes and tweaks.
When you get to it, its kinda not so difficult. (It took me kinda a half year )
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How true. Just in case get familiar with Odin. Having fun with flashing by CWM can sometimes result in being stuck. Knowing how to use Odin and having all necessary files on your computer should give you some sense of security.

Need help bout Kernel

Hi guys make this post cause im kinda new to think kernel instal/removal and didnt find anythink usefull in google.So i have SGS i900 darky rom 9.3 xwjs5 and kernel [email protected]#24.So question is does speedmod a lagfix ?How do i remove it/replace it and is it normal on quadrant to have 1101 score with this setup?And does the kernel i wrote is the default one from darky.And can anyone post any other lagfix suitable for this rom cause vodoo drains way much batt.
Speedmod does have a lagfix. Quadrant scores vary but they don't really matter as their not indicative of how good your phone is running. You have to boot into recovery and then go into Speedmod menu. Then go to lagfix/tweaks to enable whatever you want.
You don't need to enable anything if you feel your phone is fast. Only do it if you think your phone is lagging.
There are a whole bunch of kernels here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966646
utsmaster18 said:
Speedmod does have a lagfix. Quadrant scores vary but they don't really matter as their not indicative of how good your phone is running. You have to boot into recovery and then go into Speedmod menu. Then go to lagfix/tweaks to enable whatever you want.
You don't need to enable anything if you feel your phone is fast. Only do it if you think your phone is lagging.
There are a whole bunch of kernels here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966646
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So speedmode is like think that have alot tweaks?and those new kernels i instal over this one and flash with clockwork right
speedmod has a lagfix but to be honest I dont think its essential. Its snappy enough without it. Also the latest stock releases are super fast also.
sizzlers said:
So speedmode is like think that have alot tweaks?and those new kernels i instal over this one and flash with clockwork right
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Yeah you flash it with clockwork. But to be honest, just like the poster above said, you don't need lagfixes with most of the new roms as they are all very fast as is. And sometimes the lagfix might also screw up your phone. I applied the lagfix to darkyy's 9.3 and it killed my battery much faster and when I tried to go back to RFS my phone gave me problems. So unless you really need it I don't think that you should apply the lagfix.
But to each his own. Good luck

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