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European Galaxy S in Canada ?

Hi there,
I bought a Galaxy S in France, (model GT-I9000) and I'm moving to Canada (Montreal). It's SIM unlocked but does anyone know if I'll be able to get 3G here, and if so with which mobile phone providers ? I guess there are slight differences between European and Canadian models of Galaxy S in 3G frequencies...
Also if anyone has got an idea about what's the best provider here in Montreal for this android phone, i'm planning to put between 70 and 90$ /month including taxes.
Thanks in advance !

Bell And Telus uses 850 and 1900, Videotron uses the other band, not sure about the other carriers
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You will not be able to get 3G in Canada...only EDGE which is 2G data. Phone part will work...just no 3G or 3g+..only 2G.

Are you sure ? I just went to a bell store to try a sim there and the phone was showing hsdpa icon...
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If you have thehsdpa icon then you are good, you might have issues some places if you dint have the 850 band but around town you should have the 1900 band pretty much everywhere. Since most ROM for this phone come with the 1900 band you should be good.
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You will have limited HSDPA coverage with Bell/Telus/Rogers on the 1900 MHz band. Mostly in the cities. In rural areas, they tend to use 850 MHz instead, which your phone doesn't support. If you are with Rogers/Fido, your phone would fall back to GSM/EDGE, but not with Telus/Bell.
But you get no warranty, as any of these company could turn off any of their 1900 MHz tower any day and replace it with a 850 MHz one. That's why all their phones support both frequencies.
With Videotron, you would have no HSDPA at all and always roam on Rogers' EDGE network (Videotron have an agreement with Rogers). So I would avoid this.
You can always check this map:
http://www.ertyu.org/steven_nikkel/cancellsites.html
I don't know if it is reliable but maybe you can see which towers are 850 MHz.
By looking at this map, Bell seems to be 1900 MHz only in Montreal. However if you plan to travel outside of Montreal a bit, Rogers/Fido might be your best bet.
Also remember that Rogers=Fido, Bell=Virgin Mobile and Telus=Koodo

Here is a map of Telus's 3G coverage for the Montreal/Toronto corridor.
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yeah but it doesn't tell you if it is 850 or 1900 MHz (or both)

can't you just flash the modem from JL2 and run on 850hz or it's hardware limited?

My friend is a engineer at BELL who helped design the new HSPA+ system...he told me first it connects at 1900 and then pushes you to 850 for data. 1900 will work at times but only in certain area and if the load is low on it. Basically 99% get pushed to 850.
I have tried only 1900 many times...it works but very slow..EDGE slow speed. So yes like I said...but you will be getting edge speed...do a speed test and you will see. Icon's dont mean anything!

I went with Virgin Mobile and so far it's working like a charm. I'm getting hsdpa and a speedtest showed 4.5Mb in dl and 400kbps in upload
I've been using the phone for one day around Montréal and i always had hsdpa coverage. I'll see if I'm not getting network sometimes but since I'm gonna stay a lot in Montréal I feel it's really what I needed.
Many Thanks for your answers, that was really helpful
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Are these good speeds..?

I used the speed test.net app and got these results.. I have an H as you can see instead of 3G..i know that's for hsupa..
Is that at&t's 4G?
If so are these speeds in the 4G class?
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Samsung captivate running d11igaf 5.6

No its not the 4 g. 4g has a + on the end. But yea those scores are pretty good in. usually get 2 something and 1 something
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francous said:
If so are these speeds in the 4G class?
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Not even close, here are my speeds are they're pretty good for a 3g hspa network. 4g in theory should be much faster.

peachpuff said:
Not even close, here are my speeds are they're pretty good for a 3g hspa network. 4g in theory should be much faster.
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how did u get your speeds so high??
Is that WIFI your on??
Does Anyone know if huspa takes MORE, LESS, or EQUAL amount of data as 3G??

It takes equal amounts of data, H just does it faster. And speeds depends on your modem, and the service where you live.

sixstringsg said:
It takes equal amounts of data, H just does it faster. And speeds depends on your modem, and the service where you live.
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i get good service where i live.. do u kno wat the fastest modem out there is? i have UGJK4

The H stands for HSDPA, not hsupa in the status bar. It is how the rest of the world besides here does it. You do have hsupa, otherwise it would cap uploads at ~384k.
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id10terrordfw said:
The H stands for HSDPA, not hsupa in the status bar. It is how the rest of the world besides here does it. You do have hsupa, otherwise it would cap uploads at ~384k.
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oh ok , its all another language to me anyway lol.. thanks for the help!

Also H is a technology that is under the 3G umbrella
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groves226 said:
Also H is a technology that is under the 3G umbrella
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yea i hear one of its nicknames is "3.5G"

francous said:
how did u get your speeds so high??
Is that WIFI your on??
Does Anyone know if huspa takes MORE, LESS, or EQUAL amount of data as 3G??
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If I'm correct, it's showing the cell tower icons in the picture next to the recorded speeds, so he is receiving those speeds on HSDPA/HSUPA. Great download speeds, I average between 3-4mb/s. How you got such a high upload speed is beyond me haha, mine spikes up to 1.8, but never recorded higher than 1.4 upload. My 21mb/s Comcast Wireless get's me maxing around 3mb/s upload lol!

Torridred04 said:
If I'm correct, it's showing the cell tower icons in the picture next to the recorded speeds, so he is receiving those speeds on HSDPA/HSUPA. Great download speeds, I average between 3-4mb/s. How you got such a high upload speed is beyond me haha, mine spikes up to 1.8, but never recorded higher than 1.4 upload. My 21mb/s Comcast Wireless get's me maxing around 3mb/s upload lol!
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so you seen my speeeds.. not as fast as urs.. so wats the secret?? how do u get them that fast??

francous said:
so you seen my speeeds.. not as fast as urs.. so wats the secret?? how do u get them that fast??
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this depends ENTIRELY on location and modem used....

Lmao, im lucky to get 1mbps down with almost full service. I havent seen anyone elses speed tests under 1500, so be greatful francous lol.
My area realllllyyy blows.

ridethelight said:
Lmao, im lucky to get 1mbps down with almost full service. I havent seen anyone elses speed tests under 1500, so be greatful francous lol.
My area realllllyyy blows.
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HAHA! yea i mean i wouldnt say its slow.. but u kno when u see how fast other ppl's are u get a little greedy lol

id10terrordfw said:
The H stands for HSDPA, not hsupa in the status bar. It is how the rest of the world besides here does it. You do have hsupa, otherwise it would cap uploads at ~384k.
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The H is for HSPA.

MikeyMike01 said:
The H is for HSPA.
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Whats it Stand for?

francous said:
Whats it Stand for?
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try this
http://tinyurl.com/4lasouj

francous said:
Whats it Stand for?
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a little faster than 3g, i heard. at&t is rolling out HSPA + and call it 4g but the real 4g is coming later this year with LTE

LTE is not 4G.
4G is any technology that supports 100M connections.
LTE HSPA+ WIMAX are still in the 3G umbrella.
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"4G" Speeds

With the release of ATT's actual 4G speeds this Sunday, does anyone know if our HSDPA speeds will get any faster?

What exactly are you referring to?
lte=4g we will not see any benefit fro its implementation ....it requires an lte radio
Or is your area (or all for that matter) getting true hspa+ (not really 4g but faster than plain old 3g) ?
if that switch hasnt been turned on for your area and they are turning it on then yes....you could see an increase in data speeds.
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00mred00 said:
What exactly are you referring to?
lte=4g we will not see any benefit fro its implementation ....it requires an lte radio
Or is your area (or all for that matter) getting true hspa+ (not really 4g but faster than plain old 3g) ?
if that switch hasnt been turned on for your area and they are turning it on then yes....you could see an increase in data speeds.
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I think what he means is will LTE turning on alleviate some of the stress on the flipped on markets HSPA networks, or maybe the backhaul has been approved in these markets.
I can speculate that no there won't be an immediate improvement. First, there are simply not enough LTE devices and users that would hop on the new network leaving the HSPA network to make an impact, not yet anyways. Second, I really really hope AT&T is not using the same backhaul on both networks, so the HSPA backhaul probably won't improve much in these markets.
But hey, what do I know.

CEaton said:
I think what he means is will LTE turning on alleviate some of the stress on the flipped on markets HSPA networks, or maybe the backhaul has been approved in these markets.
I can speculate that no there won't be an immediate improvement. First, there are simply not enough LTE devices and users that would hop on the new network leaving the HSPA network to make an impact, not yet anyways. Second, I really really hope AT&T is not using the same backhaul on both networks, so the HSPA backhaul probably won't improve much in these markets.
But hey, what do I know.
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I thought the same....relief idea....but the only lte devices in market right now are hot spot (only 2)
No phones...and we wont see any until the celox and holiday are released in q4
Even then lte is only active in a few markets right now.
There are however quite a few markets that dont have the backhaul thingy turned on yet....so if that is what he talkung about sure....he could see an increase.
Here in dallas it has yet to be on full time. sometimes its active (and insanely fast) others it isnt (but still faster than tmo and sprint)
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I think he's asking if AT&T will upgrade their HSDPA ("4G") now that they've rolled out LTE.
Imo, no they won't upgrade it.

Killer Bee said:
I think he's asking if AT&T will upgrade their HSDPA ("4G") now that they've rolled out LTE.
Imo, no they won't upgrade it.
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But that is the thing...they haven't finished rolling out HSDPA...and there are no immediate plans of a national roll out of LTE ...it's market by market...
they plan on maintaining both ...I do know that for sure... but I don't know how much they plan on enhancing HSDPA

That's what I'm saying because currently the faux G is pretty slow in my area
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dangerdan said:
That's what I'm saying because currently the faux G is pretty slow in my area
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define slow

You all should feel lucky, my area doesn't even have 3G yet! My roommate loves to rub in that he has Verizon 3g.
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00mred00 said:
define slow
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2.8mbps down, .4 up.
Seems pretty slow to me.

dangerdan said:
2.8mbps down, .4 up.
Seems pretty slow to me.
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lol..an average of 3 is about what most people get.
It cracks me up when people refer to that as slow (I jumped ship from Sprint 2 months ago...we were lucky to get 1 mbps down)
But yeah...those speeds may indicate that they haven't switched it on for you yet...it's the same here in Dallas.. unless you are up late or out in the middle of nowhere.

I'm lucky enough to have a backhauled tower right by my house and I pull a average of 8mbps when at home.

dangerdan said:
2.8mbps down, .4 up.
Seems pretty slow to me.
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that fastest i can pull off in my area (Bakersfield, Ca) was 1.33mbps and 0.46mbps. Verizon has true LTE here by the way.

Funny thing for me my "4g" thrill only gets about 3-4 mbps at my house. My captivate would allways be over 4mbps hmmm.......
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fn1046 said:
Funny thing for me my "4g" thrill only gets about 3-4 mbps at my house. My captivate would allways be over 4mbps hmmm.......
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That was the same for me. That's actually why I made this thread lol

If you're up for the challenge, the latest update of the Thrilled ROM fixes the speed setting that AT&T has on the phone. My download speed doubled from ~3 to ~6 mbps.

I Also increased speeds after the thrill rom installation. ATT has the build.prop tweaked for lower speeds. The thrill ROM addresses that.
As far as the LTE rollout for ATT, they don't even have ANY Lte phones out yet. I asked at the store last week when I got the thrill. Supposedly they will have around 20 4g and LTE phones by the end of the year. I don't know if that is nationwide...but it is the story I got here in Orlando Florida.
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This is my result after adding some tweaks in my build.prop
Code:
net.tcp.buffersize.default=4096,87380,256960,4096,16384,256960
net.tcp.buffersize.wifi=4096,87380,256960,4096,16384,256960
net.tcp.buffersize.umts=4096,87380,256960,4096,16384,256960
net.tcp.buffersize.gprs=4096,87380,256960,4096,16384,256960
net.tcp.buffersize.edge=4096,87380,256960,4096,16384,256960

Wish I got more upload. Even on my inspire I always topped out at 1.1mb up. I am averaging 4.5 down and 1.1 up.
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really quick, are you using an app to determine your speeds? i just ask because I am having trouble determining if i get 4g speeds even though I should have it

s3 mini is LTE capable ??

When I went into this menu *#*#4636#*#* I go into phone then selecting network mode.
You will see it says LTE and loads of others.
Can any dev confirm if this phone is LTE capable please. Thanks

I'm not dev but i'm sure, our phone is not LTE capable

piskor said:
I'm not dev but i'm sure, our phone is not LTE capable
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If i remember correctly the nexus 4 also had this on same menu but never had LTE but then the LTE modem was released thus enabling it. All other non lte devices do not have lte listed under this menu. That's a fact I look in this menu on hundreds of devices.

Don't think they do LTE. What model s3 mini do you have?
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tooter1 said:
Don't think they do LTE. What model s3 mini do you have?
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I have the NFC edition GT-I890N. Looking on my old desire s it does not have this in that menu it has only wcdma and other but no LTE

Also a little note. If i Select LTE/GSM/CDMA AUTO then come off the menu and go bk in again it stays at what I set it too

AFAIK the S3 Mini is not LTE compatible.
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GXGOW said:
AFAIK the S3 Mini is not LTE compatible.
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Does not explain as to why I can select LTE and it actually stays set to LTE even after a reboot ???

fastfix2013 said:
Does not explain as to why I can select LTE and it actually stays set to LTE even after a reboot ???
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Well, try it out then and let us know if there's any difference in network speed.
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GXGOW said:
Well, try it out then and let us know if there's any difference in network speed.
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I have had it on LTE/GSM/CDMA AUTO now for a good few hours. I used bittorrent client for android to download a 720p film from yify torrents site. Same file so was the same 829mb size for both downloads.
On normal network ( wcdma ) I had a average DL speed of 1,2mbps
But on the LTE selected band I had not a huge jump increase it wa averaged at 1.4mbps so there is n obvious speed increase but that could be for a different reason. I will go head and use apeedtest.net and post results after.

GXGOW said:
Well, try it out then and let us know if there's any difference in network speed.
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That's the lte band is double my normal speed
http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/744650636

Does the phone show an LTE icon? Also what does it say in Status?
Settings>About Device>Status
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tooter1 said:
Does the phone show an LTE icon? Also what does it say in Status?
Settings>About Device>Status
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No just a H but now and then for. Very few seconds it shows a H+ but that's only if I toggle data on and off really. In my nexus 4 it does not show a LTE icon when in 4g it only shows H+.

fastfix2013 said:
I have had it on LTE/GSM/CDMA AUTO now for a good few hours. I used bittorrent client for android to download a 720p film from yify torrents site. Same file so was the same 829mb size for both downloads.
On normal network ( wcdma ) I had a average DL speed of 1,2mbps
But on the LTE selected band I had not a huge jump increase it wa averaged at 1.4mbps so there is n obvious speed increase but that could be for a different reason. I will go head and use apeedtest.net and post results after.
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Even, if there is an option called "LTE/GSM/CDMA", our phone cannot switch to LTE
Our phone is not LTE capable and never will be
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57530541-94/galaxy-s3-mini-samsungs-big-new-move/
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i8190_galaxy_s_iii_mini-5033.php

piskor said:
Even, if there is an option called "LTE/GSM/CDMA", our phone cannot switch to LTE
Our phone is not LTE capable and never will be
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Piskor look at gsmareana at nexus 4 it says no LTE BUT nexus 4 DOES have LTE thanks to a hybrid modem so them websites mean nothing
Not to ruin you day Lol but the nexus 4 was said to never get LTE either but it has got it thanks to great developers. I might take my phone apart and take a closer look at the hardware components. Also if that was true why is my phone able to select the LTE band and not only that it stays on that LTE band even if I reboot. So it recognises that the user selected the LTE band and it changed to it also I just found out o2 does not use 4g so I will try again with my contract EE sim and check again and give another update

fastfix2013 said:
Piskor look at gsmareana at nexus 4 it says no LTE BUT nexus 4 DOES have LTE thanks to a hybrid modem so them websites mean nothing
Not to ruin you day Lol but the nexus 4 was said to never get LTE either but it has got it thanks to great developers. I might take my phone apart and take a closer look at the hardware components. Also if that was true why is my phone able to select the LTE band and not only that it stays on that LTE band even if I reboot. So it recognises that the user selected the LTE band and it changed to it also I just found out o2 does not use 4g so I will try again with my contract EE sim and check again and give another update
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Try to choose "LTE only" and you will see, what will happen Nothing Menu returns to "WCDMA preffered" (in my case)
Nexus 4 is completely different thing. There must be flashed the hacked modem, there must be set different APN
And something about your speed result http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/744650636
It's nothing special. You obtained only 6.59Mb/s / 2.33Mb/s but our phone on 3G is capable to operate with HSDPA 14.4 Mbps and HSUPA 5.76 Mbps
<EOT>

The NovaThor U8500 system-on-a-chip on S3 Mini doesn't have LTE support so it's impossible for LTE to function on our devices

Looking for app that shows me Band/Pairing #

I know Samsung devices have this and I believe iphones.. not sure.. I dont use iphones...
Unfortuneately, our devices doesnt show this or at least I can not get into this mode... Is there an app that can show us this...
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I have yet to find one.

Lte discovery might be what your lookin for it will show you band not sure about pairing though but still worth looking in to
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Dont know what you search, but you can get into service menu. Go tot dailer en call *#*#4636#*#*

mindblizzard said:
Dont know what you search, but you can get into service menu. Go tot dailer en call *#*#4636#*#*
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Im pretty sure our phones dont show this info.. Ive been in there many times..
Can you show me a screen shot of yours with this info?

Sure, I dont have 4g network overhere

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kei5rio.secretcode&hl=en

I must be blind.. but where does it show the Band and pairing BW?

If you refer to my post, my point was only that there's a little app that shows the Android service menu. The band is indicated (mine says HSPA - my contract doesn't allow LTE, so I can't say anything about that).

fmc000 said:
If you refer to my post, my point was only that there's a little app that shows the Android service menu. The band is indicated (mine says HSPA - my contract doesn't allow LTE, so I can't say anything about that).
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that app your referring to is the same menu as going into *#*#4636#*#*
also, HSPA, LTE, GSM, etc is not the band type, its a network type.. by Band type I mean LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40, which is also another way to describe radio frequency
as you can see in the first pic of my first post, in the Samsung device, it shows Band 4
but my question was for mindblizzard,

I don't think the phone can show that information
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which is why Iam asking around to see if theres an app that can...

gd6noob said:
LTE: Bands: 1/3/4/7/17/38/40
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Just out of curiosity, what useful purpose would this serve?

ImWarped said:
Just out of curiosity, what useful purpose would this serve?
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I would assume to see if the band unlock mod works for other frequencies?
I will see if band 20 is unlocked in few weeks once i get my 4g/LTE data package.

tofuboi01 said:
I would assume to see if the band unlock mod works for other frequencies?
I will see if band 20 is unlocked in few weeks once i get my 4g/LTE data package.
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That's all fine and dandy, but it's not like your carrier is operating multiple frequencies that you're likely to see ever. Maybe if you live in an incredibly dense population center, but even then... Perhaps I'm missing something.

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Just out of curiosity, what useful purpose would this serve?
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Im just curious to see what Band/DL Bandwidth my carrier is using... Our area is suppose to be upgraded to a new LTE network using a new band and what not...

gd6noob said:
Im just curious to see what Band/DL Bandwidth my carrier is using... Our area is suppose to be upgraded to a new LTE network using a new band and what not...
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Fair enough, if you have LTE already, and they are simply deploying a new frequency, you likely won't notice any change, to any of the service. Speeds don't increase between bands, the only reason a carrier deploys a new band, is to fight radio interference from other carriers. Given the cost of a single radio, carriers generally only deploy these new radios in VERY congested areas. Meaning, that in a city that has, say 15 towers, 2-3 of them would actually get the upgrade, in the area that suffers from the most interference. (You have to bear in mind, that a full tower build, requires 6 radios, each radio costing about $18,000 for the radio, another $1000 for the antenna, another $500-1500 for the power supply and cabling. They don't just "upgrade" an entire area, it takes too long to recoup costs)

ImWarped said:
That's all fine and dandy, but it's not like your carrier is operating multiple frequencies that you're likely to see ever. Maybe if you live in an incredibly dense population center, but even then... Perhaps I'm missing something.
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Ah my mistake, i had in my head he meant to check for bands in the area which he can use with the 'unlocked' frequency mod..for some reason. My total mistake!
However what i meant with what i said when i get my 4g is that i can confirm that the unlock mod will enable band 20 since our OPO is restricted/doesnt support it by default. The band app would be good though!