[Q] Massive HTC+Sprint+Microsoft Conspiracy - Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Okay - I admit it's been a while since I programmed anything, but the desire to root my HTC Hero (Sprint) has brought me back into the game.
Thanks to the recent patch from HTC/Sprint (I have the 2.32.651.2 build#), I can't do a simple root using Androot or Unrevoked or z4root, etc.
Plus, since I have Win7(x64), I have serious difficulties reverting my phone back to a previous issue (the lovely USB error issue that comes up with the RUU flash). I tried replacing the driver and no luck.
So - I tried going the more fun, extended route, using SDK. Now - even though I have the latest version of JDK - the SDK installer is not recognizing JDK on my system. I've searched through the Android developers forum and even Google admits it shouldn't be that difficult and they'll work on addressing it in an upcoming release.
WTF?!
I'm starting to think I might have to venture into the bowels of my garage and dust off the old XP box... I'd rather avoid doing that, so any assistance y'all can provide is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!

Why not make a backup of everything, Wipe your whole system. Flash with a Rooted Stock ROM and restore backup. Then you have a good new phone...

ARGH! Can't anyone read?

Can't u hunt down old version of sdk?
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App

There are plenty of sources to get a free copy of microsoft's virtual machine software. I want to say you can get VM 2007 for free directly from microsoft, but it's been a while since I've looked into it. Could do a VM and have it run XP, if you have a legit key there should be no problem.

no... school is for fools!!!
sorry bud about your luck... if it makes you feel any better, forced to use an old XP to update my dad's HTC Wizard from WM 5 to WM 6.5... that's not happening!
although, now that I think about it, this was the wizard forum's suggestion, use the XP Virutalization in Win7... it didn't work for me, but you could give it a shot!

SirRipo said:
There are plenty of sources to get a free copy of microsoft's virtual machine software. I want to say you can get VM 2007 for free directly from microsoft, but it's been a while since I've looked into it. Could do a VM and have it run XP, if you have a legit key there should be no problem.
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Beat me to it, ugh, can't type as fast after my surgery. Yes, VM 2007 is free, you also have to download XP mode to make it emulate XP. There's a MS website that gives you the three steps, all free downloads. Just make sure your copy of Win is authentic... whoops on my part. The internet is amazing!

Right click on the RUU.exe and run as an adminstrator. Some have also run it in WinXP SP3 compatability mode. It's been a while but when the phone reboots and you get the blank screen followed by the USB error, disonnect the USB cable from the phone for about 5 seconds. Plug it back in and you should get the white screen with 3 androids at the bottom. Close the RUU and reun it again. It should recognize the phone and update.
I remember it being very frustrating but it did finally work. Good luck.

This isn't really the place for this, but these questions have already been covered, many many times..
Rooting instructions. I know this works on the latest official sprint, because I've done it successfully.
As far as not being able to RUU, some people have an issue running the RUU if they haven't ran HTC Sync. Try that and see if it works, and if not, follow this method.
HERCIMG-2.31.651.7.ZIP download it. it's the Sprint 2.31.651.7 executable but in signed zip format, for people who aren't running windows. Not sure who actually converted the executable to a signed zip, but props to you for helping those that can't run the regular RUU.
Rename the file to HERCIMG.zip and place it on the root of your SD card.
Power the phone off.
Press and hold your Volume Down button, and while still holding it press the power button to power your phone back up into HBoot mode.
HBoot should then automatically verify the zip file, and ask you if you would like
to flash it. Press your trackball to confirm the update (downgrade in this case),
or press your send button to cancel.
Once on 651.7 you would root as normal, but you should not have to RUU back to 651.7 just to root.

SirRipo said:
There are plenty of sources to get a free copy of microsoft's virtual machine software. I want to say you can get VM 2007 for free directly from microsoft, but it's been a while since I've looked into it. Could do a VM and have it run XP, if you have a legit key there should be no problem.
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I know I had a version of Microsoft VM on Vista, but it seems under Windows 7 it will only work for the top end (professional/Enterprise/Ultimate)? Home premium and basic versions will not run VM.
Microsoft also (for those running pro/enterprise/ultimate) offers "Windows XP Mode" for free, if your system passes WGA. just google windows xp mode and it should pop up to the microsoft site that lets you download all of the required files.
I installed it on my laptop and desktop, and it runs fine on both. (Better on the laptop, actually).

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801570
This might help with your driver issues

So where is the ROM or ROM development?

@moxlon - I just have "Premium" and honestly not sure if I need to fork over another $200 to microsoft. Tried the HERCIMG, but it just says there is "no img or wrong img". Any ideas?
to the rest of you - thanks for tolerating my ineptitude.

Same issue
I had the same issues when I tried to run the RUU and revert. Basically I had to download the HTC sync first and let it do its thing with the drivers and such. Then I went back in and ran the RUU, it got to a point where it was stuck, I forget exactly which point, but you will know. I unplugged the phone from the computer and closed down the RUU and reran it and it went through. Its kinda weird, but will work. I am also running Windows 7 x64...

Try this. Runs on my Win7 machine and on the latest update. I know because I have done it several times. Extract to SDK tools folder, right click app (it will be red), and run as admin.

New SDK on Win7 x64
As big a pain as it can be. Simply install the 32 bit version of JDK and it'll find it just fine.

wfetter said:
As big a pain as it can be. Simply install the 32 bit version of JDK and it'll find it just fine.
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Even with 32 bit mine is hit or miss. Gotta love technology sometimes...

yeah it's a gas aint it ... pffft

guitarjuggalo said:
I had the same issues when I tried to run the RUU and revert. Basically I had to download the HTC sync first and let it do its thing with the drivers and such. Then I went back in and ran the RUU, it got to a point where it was stuck, I forget exactly which point, but you will know. I unplugged the phone from the computer and closed down the RUU and reran it and it went through. Its kinda weird, but will work. I am also running Windows 7 x64...
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This is what I had to do, too. I'm running Win7 x64. Each time I would run the Sprint RUU 2.27.651.5, it would get stuck and error out on when the phone reboots to the bootloader. Once that happens, leave the phone alone, but unplug it from the computer, plug it back in and re-run the RUU. It works.
I've done that twice to my phone in the past week.

Wow, wish I found this before LOL
Just posted this a few min ago http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9964489#post9964489
Maybe change the title so people can find this that are having RUU issues? I only clicked because I was like conspiracy? I'd love to read this one LOL
I didn't search today because I didn't think there would be anything new from days ago when I was trying to run RUU since it's just the Hero lol
Wow forget the RUU, thanks for the zip file to flash! I found one before but was like eh.... doesn't sound as official.

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Updating to WM6 ROMs on Vista

Hey All-
I'd appreciate any help anyone can offer. I am having problems updating to any of the WM6 ROMs out there (up here). One of a few things is happening:
1) Either RUU crashes just after it successfully sends my PDA in to bootloader mode, or
2) RUU is able to stay up, but for some reason, does not like the update file:
I either get an error: "This NBF file cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get a newer NBF file.", or
it suggests the nbf file is "corrupted", I think indicating the RUU util I am running is out of synch with what the PDA is expecting.
I'm using a T-Mobile MDA (Vario?) and Vista.
I've tried all of the solutions I have been able to find:
* changing the driver to HTC USB Sync so that it can "reconnect" once in bootloader
* various flavors of the update utility to get around the crash, which do not let me upgrade to the ROM of choice!
* hard reset of the device
* I even tried pulling down one of the ROM upgrades from the T-Mobile dowloads site and dropping that in with a WM6 ROM nbf file. That was a huge flop.
I know people have done this! I've seen it over and over again. So what in the world stupid thing am I doing to not make this work?
Thanks.
Joel Niemeyer
Seattle
RUU doesnt work on Vista. Use shelltool.
Thanks for the advice. I'm sure it was good advice, but I am three hours in to it running now, and I don't have a good feeling about it. I think it says it would take at least 15 minutes. Not 180! Ugh, now I wonder what I should do?
Joel
jniemeyer said:
Hey All-
* changing the driver to HTC USB Sync so that it can "reconnect" once in bootloader
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How do you do that? Thank you because when i try to downgrade my ROM or w/e so that i can unlock it when i gots to bootloader the fred green blue thingy it doesnt reconnect to active sync and maybe thats my probelm...=[
chaos, just look around for the RUU with Vista instructions- they are everywhere!
hey mate,
just follow this instructions http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=252977 to falsh every official ROM under MS Vista. Surely, when it comes to WM6 you gotta use the Shelltool.
regards
irm
Answer for Vista
My question is why don't people just dual boot vista with xp or 2000/etc...that would solve a lot of issues about the problems with vista.. just boot to xp..
I figure if you have the $Funds$ to spend on a $250+ phone you could shell out $50 for a 150gb 16mb cache HDD for your pc and dual/tri/quad/etc... sheeet son i've been doing this for years with linux/m$/mac.
Gotta face it, some software just runs better on one OS over another. peace out.
can someone confirm shell tool work
ANTC said:
can someone confirm shell tool work
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I tried it, took like 6 minutes then it was completed, knowingly it wasnt flashed right, but did the hard reset on the phone and was stuck at the SPL screen, so just loaded up VMWare to reflash.
It worked for me...
I flashed one of the WM6 ROMs using my Vista Ultimate computer. One of the main parts in making the thing work is remembering to put your computer in bootloader before doing it. On post #7 in the MoDaCo thread, it says this.
Once more, here is the link: http://www.modaco.com/RUU-on-Vista-It-can-be-done-the-ultimate-guide-t252977.html
so your saying witht hat tut you flash a custom rom??
Yes
Yes I was able to. I don't remember which, but I think i was Core 2.0
Yeah, I was able to use shelltool to make this happen. Thanks for the feedback, folks. Only hang up was that it had appeared to have seized up (was seemingly stuck before the "End" portion). I waited for like 3 hours before I finally threw up my hands and hard reset the unit. Low and behold my wizard booted up in to the new ROM and I have been good to do since!

Unable to flash under vista x64

Hi, i've read the "How to" from this URL http://trinityguides.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=20&Itemid=66 but with no success.
Device Manager shows an error code 39.
I just don't understand, i followed everything without errors from the start.
what can i do now ? i want to reflash my radio rom from 1.50.08.11 to 1.46.30.11. My battery was draining slower with that one.
Thanks !
first of all, it helps if you post this under the thread for trinityguides...
you had your device in bootloader and connected before step 2?
are you vista 32 or 64?
it's quite strange cause most people had success with these steps. How have you flashed your ROM in the past?
same for me. the reason is that vista isnt able to install the drivers when the bootloader start.
vista 64bit only works with signed by ms driver be that videocard drivers or pda drivers
if you ask me 64bit is not yet for primetime
drivers are few and limited
support for many external things are non
funny to see how pc entuthieasts pay that much for
vista ultimate when the only thing they get is the 64bit option
and backup and some crypting options which if they ever use
they'll cry salty tears when they have to reinstall and cant
get access to their data anymore
ultimate dont mean it's faster or better
just that one gets the full ms bloatware packet
yeah... the guide shows how to load the unsigned drivers though...
are the two of you running 64 or 32bit vista?
his title "Unable to flash under vista x64"
the x64 would sugest that he's using the 64bit version
mmm... you are observant haha... can't believe i missed it
Same problem here, did what was written in the trinityguide (twice now), but to no avail. Code260 (no connection)
Vista64
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Fortunately my laptop runs on vista32bit, update works like a charm on that one...
hmmm... this is getting strange...
so you followed the 64bit instructions for unsigned driver that are in the popup window? (on trinityguides)
racerx_ said:
hmmm... this is getting strange...
so you followed the 64bit instructions for unsigned driver that are in the popup window? (on trinityguides)
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Yep, every step, including the unsigned driver stuff (have used that for other programs too, it worked before). Did it twice, no error messages apart from the error260 while trying to update the device.
There must be people who do manage to get it to work, but not me (on the 64bit vista)
yeah, i'm really sorry to hear that. Most people have been successful. Every once in a while, someone reports that they have had trouble with it, but i don't have vista x64 to troubleshoot.
i remember reading in another forum about someone with the same error saying that some kind of optimization option he had selected for vista was the culprit. I think he ended up reinstalling vista with default options and was ok..
(i know that's not really the answer you're looking for, but just thought i'd throw it in there )
hey i was just thinking...
do you want to see if any of these other methods of disabling driver signing work for you, listed in this post
it works under vista x64
If you enable automatic update in vista x64, and you plug in your trinity, after a few minutes a update will appear from microsoft asking that there is a update for your trinity, install it and my phone works and was able to flash new roms on it with this update....i have windows vista ultimate x64 edition...
great tip... the_stranger or simkard, can you try this and verify if it works? i'm sure a lot of vista x64 users would be thankful to know
forgot somthing
if you have updated the drivers from microsoft, put your trinity in bootloader and then in "device management" select your trinity and select update drivers...if not your not able to flash.....
racerx_ said:
great tip... the_stranger or simkard, can you try this and verify if it works? i'm sure a lot of vista x64 users would be thankful to know
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I've allready flashed under vista32bit and more importantly, installed all programs and contacts. However, when I update the ROM again, I will try this method and report back...
The_Stranger said:
Yep, every step, including the unsigned driver stuff (have used that for other programs too, it worked before). Did it twice, no error messages apart from the error260 while trying to update the device.
There must be people who do manage to get it to work, but not me (on the 64bit vista)
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ive got vista 32 and i doesnt work 4 me. ive only gotten 1 rom 2 load 4 me. i need a new radio rom and it wont load.ive got the no gsm. wanna fix it bad.

can not flash button rom

HI.. Im a newbie here, just got my g3 wizard ipl2.25 / spl2.25 couple weeks ago and seen what you can do with them. phone is sim and cid unlocked. i would like to flash to wm6 eventually all thought im running into problems. i followed all the guides to upgrade. tried on my vista 32 bit and win xp sp2. every time i run the button rom to downgrade, i get "romupdateutility mfc application not responding" on vista and "error 260 or 274" with the xp. ive tried it in bootloader mode, restarting pc and wizard, tried different driver for vista, and shut down AS and WMCD before attempting to flash. ive been at this thing for weeks. firewall and antivirus turned off on both pcs, phone is at 100% charge. once in bootloader i get usb at bottom of screen. so i know i have connectivity. run rom not in bootloader, identifies version, then goes to bootloader, then i get error. run again and it dont even identify wizard. happens with both pcs. any ideas please help. i have already read, read, read and still cant figure this out. any ideas are greatly appreciated.
First of all,as you say its SIM/CID unlocked already then why are you trying to downgrade with Button's Rom,its only needed to downgrade if its required to CID unlock.If you are sure its already CID unlocked than simply download any wm6 rom and flash to upgrade,but if you are not sure if its CID unlocked,download WST_4.2.2 tool and run it to verify the CID lock/unlock status.
sorry i made a typo. it is Locked both sim and cid. typed last night at 3:30 in the morning. i ran the wizard service tool and thats what it told me. sorry again
check firewall (even XP one) / anti-virus settings, avoid using front panel USB, avoid usb cables with electric components, try different RUUs, avoid Vista, try another XP computer
Take all the precautions mestrini has posted above and always try on a winXP machine,don't use vista for flashing.May be the Button's rom you downloaded is not a correct package,try to download it again or from a different download link,you can even downgrade with official AKU 1.xx rom if you can find and download.
thanks for all the idea. definately stop trying with vista. i already have tried downloading button rom from a different link, no electronics in usb cable, and firewall and anit-virus have been disabled. i just found a aku 1.xx rom last night so im going to try that tonight. thanks again
well i tried all that and still nothing always get a error 274 connection code. my xp is ran through virtualbox on a ubuntu machine. could that have anything to do with it? i can run WST that works fine. one thing i have noticed though is when my wizard goes into bootloader my connection gets lost and usb connection icon comes up with unknown device and a different pid # then if phone is just turned on, and no check next to it. i tried activating it while ruu is searching and that immediately gives me a 274 error. is it normal for product id to change when in bootloader? by the way i was using the cingular 1.08 ship rom this time, tried it about 15 5itmes with same result everythime. never touched the phone and never took out of bootloader.
litlldevill666 said:
... my xp is ran through virtualbox on a ubuntu machine. could that have anything to do with it? i can run WST that works fine. one thing i have noticed though is when my wizard goes into bootloader my connection gets lost and usb connection icon comes up with unknown device and a different pid # then if phone is just turned on, and no check next to it. i
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I think you touched the wound!!
I guess RUU can't communicate properly through virtual box. Please try another XP machine before anything else (i think you can manage a friend with one since M$ is so spread - unfortunantely )
cheers
well thats what it was, i did a dual boot on my linux laptop with xp sp2. ran button rom and flashed first time. thank you both very much.
litlldevill666 said:
well that's what it was, i did a dual boot on my linux laptop with xp sp2. ran button rom and flashed first time. thank you both very much.
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Thanx ! it was pleasure to help you,hope you upgrade it successfully,do let us know if there's any problem,we are always here to help,Thats what this excellent forum is all about !!!

Stuck with Vista

I cannot get any thing to work with Windows Vista. I never had problems with XP and my other Wizard. I had it replaced through the insurance. Please help me. I have been through the threads claiming to have some way of tricking Vista with old drivers. I have installed them and had no change. Read all the threads!!
So Dont do it!!!
Man some versions work some doesnt... TRY XP men if you dont have problems since your first Wizard and xp use.
Dont be in panic mode, is not prooved even if many thread said that.
I'm just pissed, i had a great ROM running on my old phone. now i am stuck with a computer running Vista Ultimate and Mobile 5 on he replacement phone. I was hoping somebody found a way to run these Roms through Vista successfully.
Vista support for Windows Mobile is really hit and miss, it works for some, and not at all for others....your best bet is finding a friend with XP and upgrading it there.
Not G4 specific, moved > Upgrading
i use vmware with an xp image to mod my phone, i run vista x64.
Upgrade vista with all available service packs then download the latest version of WMDC from microsoft
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/device-center.mspx#download
and try flashing then
If you still have problems try replacing the ruuupgrade files with Muns ones and use these to flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52404&d=1190997171
if that doesnt work then you havent done what i just said
scousemartin said:
Upgrade vista with all available service packs then download the latest version of WMDC from microsoft
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/device-center.mspx#download
and try flashing then
If you still have problems try replacing the ruuupgrade files with Muns ones and use these to flash http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=52404&d=1190997171
if that doesnt work then you havent done what i just said
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I cannot flash my Wizard now that I have Vista 64-bit. I have followed many different methods that I have found on XDA in the last few days. I've downloaded and ran many different RUU tools, nothing gets me past the RUU crashing.
The one problem that I get hung up on is while installing a new driver for the Pocket PC (wceusbshx64.inf) in device manager I get the error message that the driver is not signed, I click next anyways. I then get the following message "The driver may be corrupt or missing (Code 39)".
Any other ideas? I'm having flashing withdrawals.............
Thank you for your help
Anyone that knows away to get around the above problems? Luckily I still have my XP computer upstairs, so I can still flash new roms. But I would like to keep it all on one computer (Vista)
Thanks
Some day...
I saw a guy with a XP emulator and a partition HD with Vista mostly and a little part with XP Pro ( he use the Vista for work and everything and the little partition just for upgrades but... He use an emulator for vista and he has XP Runing trought Vista... but I cant find the thread again...
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I saw a guy with a XP emulator and a partition HD with Vista mostly and a little part with XP Pro ( he use the Vista for work and everything and the little partition just for upgrades but... He use an emulator for vista and he has XP Runing trought Vista... but I cant find the thread again...
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Thanks, I remember seeing that thread before. I'll have to find XP and give it a try. The XP disk I have is for another computer so I'm not sure it will work.
Thanks

Important! My rhodium crashed during flashing

I synchronize my phone using ActiveSync. After flashing wizzard my rhodium wanted a driver. I didnt find it and now I'm standing in the tricolor.
Somebody help me please what to do !!!!! :-(
In the tricolour screen (the bootloader), does it say "USB" at the bottom ? If so, you should still be able to flash it ok. Though if there is a missing driver on your PC, it might just come up with an error and not be able to flash it. You could still try flashing from SD card in that case.
I did a soft reset and my old ROM was boot. Driver is missing. I have to install it. Thx
Wihtefaust said:
I did a soft reset and my old ROM was boot. Driver is missing. I have to install it. Thx
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if you want to obtain the missing driver, you shouldve left the phone on the tri colour screen, and now this is my question, what OS are running? Win7 or XP? if youre on Win7 its going to search for the drivers on the internet and it should take 5 mins, as stated above if the drivers are installed it should say USB on the bottom and should be ready to be flashed, this happens to me once in a while when i flash a ROM, i just leave it on that screen and let the computer do the work and sometimes the RUU which is the program u use to flash a ROM will have an error, thats fine, just re run the RUU and should be fine from there
My OS is win XP, but this computer is adjusted using XP lite. One of important component is removed (maybe drivers support... idk). I did not know that I have these problems during the flashing on this computer.
Wihtefaust said:
My OS is win XP, but this computer is adjusted using XP lite. One of important component is removed (maybe drivers support... idk). I did not know that I have these problems during the flashing on this computer.
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If you have the ActiveSync drivers it should be automatic. If you were able to Sync with ActiveSync, you can flash. Just let it install the drivers by itself or download ActiveSync again and install and try again.
or flash from memory card.... no need for drivers.
Wihtefaust said:
I synchronize my phone using ActiveSync. After flashing wizzard my rhodium wanted a driver. I didnt find it and now I'm standing in the tricolor.
Somebody help me please what to do !!!!! :-([/QUOTE
Copy RHODIMG.NBH (you can take from any Rom, sometimes it has another name, rename it rhodimg.nbh) to your SD card using a card reader form your computer
Put it in your phone than start. It will ask you to push start button to begin flashing.
After flash restart phone with red button under battery cover
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Have you tried doing a Windows update while the phone is hooked up to your computer? Your computer probably just doesn't recognize the phone. I had that problem when I did my first flash. Windows update just found the drivers and installed them and I was good to go.
I think what he was trying to say is that he used N-Lite to strip down his XP install and removed some critical driver or possibly PNP pieces..
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I think what he was trying to say is that he used N-Lite to strip down his XP install and removed some critical driver or possibly PNP pieces..
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I understood that but if ActiveSync works, then flashing should work as they are the same driver. Probably needs even less components than ActiveSync.

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