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Has anyone found a way to upgrade to any WM6 ROMs on Windows Vista? I'm sorta at my wits end here!
In the Wizard Upgrading forum there is a thread "Upgrading your phone on Windows Vista". The driver instructions (which are really well written) work perfectly, but the RUU version fails with an "out of date" error.
There have been a number of other RUU versions suggested, but they all crash on Vista.
Shelltool works on Vista only about 25% of the time. Usually it just starts the flash process and hangs indefinitely. I was able to successfully flash XM6r4, but since then nothing else I've tried has worked. I did go back to the latest AT&T ROM afterwards, but haven't been able to get back to WM6 since. One of the things I tried was extracting the RUU from Cingular's update, but that one didn't work either, which confuses me even more!
All of the RUU Wrapper versions I've used to flash my Hermes work great on Vista, yet none of the RUU versions seem to be able to do so on my G4 Wizard (Cingular 8125).
Please, if anyone has any suggestions, I'd really appreciate them! I've searched and searched through the forums for different methods and versions, but have come up empty handed.
FWIW, I don't have access to an XP machine, and dual booting is not an option for me.
Thanks!
Dual Boot!
I just ended up dual booting XP, I noticed you said it was not an option, but did you know you can do it without reformatting through computer management in Vista?
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dktech said:
I just ended up dual booting XP, I noticed you said it was not an option, but did you know you can do it without reformatting through computer management in Vista?
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Yep! Unfortunately that's not an option either. It's a matter of resources. I'm stuck with Vista, on which, I should point out, I can upgrade my Hermes successfully 100% of the time!
The RUU versions used to flash .nbh format ROMs to my Hermes all work, yet the older versions which take the .nbf format ROMs used by the Wizard don't!
There's got to be some solution. Using Shelltool usually works, but that only flashes the OS, not the ExtROM, splash screen, etc, so it's really only part of the solution.
Hmm i myself had some problems with flashing using Windows Vista. here are some observations i had
1) i first flashed using the origional tmobile rom (3.08 spl/ipl with 2.69 radio) i flashed it without doing anything special besides putting it in bootloader mode
2) next when i tried flashing it with a cooked rom it wouldnt work ( again i just tried to flash from bootloader mode without following any of the instructions givin in the Upgrading with Windows Vista thread)i found the RUUupdater version to be 2.0?? ( im sorry i forget the exact version numbers)
3) On checking the RUUupdater of the Tmobile that worked i found it to be 2.5???( again i forget teh exact version but suffice it to say it was newer)
4) i copyed the cooked rom nbk files to the Tmobile origional rom folder ( the one that worked on updating) but unfortunatly it wouldnt work
5) i then went to the thread and downloaded the drivers and installed them as the instructions said i should
6) i then downloaded the VistaRUU file they had there and then copyed the nbk files to that folder and VIOLA i flashed it and it worked like a charm ( again i flashed in bootloader mode)
This was just my experiance hopefully someone can figure out what i did right and why it worked for me and hopefully make it work for everyone else having problems
I thought there was a thread somewhere here about how to use Vista...if I remember, it may have even been stickied.
There was a stiki but it seems to have been unstikied and has since gone outta sight
Was this the thread??
It is still stickied if it is the thread.
I don't use Vista, so I haven't really read through it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338473
docnas said:
Hmm i myself had some problems with flashing using Windows Vista. here are some observations i had
1) i first flashed using the origional tmobile rom (3.08 spl/ipl with 2.69 radio) i flashed it without doing anything special besides putting it in bootloader mode
2) next when i tried flashing it with a cooked rom it wouldnt work ( again i just tried to flash from bootloader mode without following any of the instructions givin in the Upgrading with Windows Vista thread)i found the RUUupdater version to be 2.0?? ( im sorry i forget the exact version numbers)
3) On checking the RUUupdater of the Tmobile that worked i found it to be 2.5???( again i forget teh exact version but suffice it to say it was newer)
4) i copyed the cooked rom nbk files to the Tmobile origional rom folder ( the one that worked on updating) but unfortunatly it wouldnt work
5) i then went to the thread and downloaded the drivers and installed them as the instructions said i should
6) i then downloaded the VistaRUU file they had there and then copyed the nbk files to that folder and VIOLA i flashed it and it worked like a charm ( again i flashed in bootloader mode)
This was just my experiance hopefully someone can figure out what i did right and why it worked for me and hopefully make it work for everyone else having problems
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What do you mean by putting the phone in bootloader mode first? In my experience, the phone has to be booted fully in order for the RUUs to work. Is there a way to get it to recognize the phone if it's already in bootloader mode?
If I put the phone in bootloader mode and then run RUU, the RUU just comes back and says it can't talk to the phone.
FWIW, I did the same as you, as far as flashing the original (Cingular) ROM and trying to use the RUU that came with that update. It seems that those RUUs won't work with any other ROMs.
Thanks for any help!
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Was this the thread??
It is still stickied if it is the thread.
I don't use Vista, so I haven't really read through it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338473
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Yep, that's the one! Been through it. As I mentioned above, the driver instructions in that thread are required when using Vista, but the RUU doesn't work.
Other than docnas here, everyone else has had the same problem as me. The Vista RUU comes back and complains that it's out of date.
I'd like to figure out what docnas did differently to get it to work. BTW, what version of Vista were you using? 32 or 64 bit? Mine is 64.
I'd also like to find out how it worked with the phone already in bootloader mode, since everyone says (and my experience has shown) that the phone needs to be booted and synced before the RUU will talk to the phone.
This may all be too late for me anyway. I'm giving my old Cingular 8125 to a friend, which is why I've been updating it. Unfortunately (or fortunately? ), once she has it, I'll only be working with my ATT 8525, which I can update and work with without any of the problems I've had with the Wizard.
HI.. Im a newbie here, just got my g3 wizard ipl2.25 / spl2.25 couple weeks ago and seen what you can do with them. phone is sim and cid unlocked. i would like to flash to wm6 eventually all thought im running into problems. i followed all the guides to upgrade. tried on my vista 32 bit and win xp sp2. every time i run the button rom to downgrade, i get "romupdateutility mfc application not responding" on vista and "error 260 or 274" with the xp. ive tried it in bootloader mode, restarting pc and wizard, tried different driver for vista, and shut down AS and WMCD before attempting to flash. ive been at this thing for weeks. firewall and antivirus turned off on both pcs, phone is at 100% charge. once in bootloader i get usb at bottom of screen. so i know i have connectivity. run rom not in bootloader, identifies version, then goes to bootloader, then i get error. run again and it dont even identify wizard. happens with both pcs. any ideas please help. i have already read, read, read and still cant figure this out. any ideas are greatly appreciated.
First of all,as you say its SIM/CID unlocked already then why are you trying to downgrade with Button's Rom,its only needed to downgrade if its required to CID unlock.If you are sure its already CID unlocked than simply download any wm6 rom and flash to upgrade,but if you are not sure if its CID unlocked,download WST_4.2.2 tool and run it to verify the CID lock/unlock status.
sorry i made a typo. it is Locked both sim and cid. typed last night at 3:30 in the morning. i ran the wizard service tool and thats what it told me. sorry again
check firewall (even XP one) / anti-virus settings, avoid using front panel USB, avoid usb cables with electric components, try different RUUs, avoid Vista, try another XP computer
Take all the precautions mestrini has posted above and always try on a winXP machine,don't use vista for flashing.May be the Button's rom you downloaded is not a correct package,try to download it again or from a different download link,you can even downgrade with official AKU 1.xx rom if you can find and download.
thanks for all the idea. definately stop trying with vista. i already have tried downloading button rom from a different link, no electronics in usb cable, and firewall and anit-virus have been disabled. i just found a aku 1.xx rom last night so im going to try that tonight. thanks again
well i tried all that and still nothing always get a error 274 connection code. my xp is ran through virtualbox on a ubuntu machine. could that have anything to do with it? i can run WST that works fine. one thing i have noticed though is when my wizard goes into bootloader my connection gets lost and usb connection icon comes up with unknown device and a different pid # then if phone is just turned on, and no check next to it. i tried activating it while ruu is searching and that immediately gives me a 274 error. is it normal for product id to change when in bootloader? by the way i was using the cingular 1.08 ship rom this time, tried it about 15 5itmes with same result everythime. never touched the phone and never took out of bootloader.
litlldevill666 said:
... my xp is ran through virtualbox on a ubuntu machine. could that have anything to do with it? i can run WST that works fine. one thing i have noticed though is when my wizard goes into bootloader my connection gets lost and usb connection icon comes up with unknown device and a different pid # then if phone is just turned on, and no check next to it. i
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I think you touched the wound!!
I guess RUU can't communicate properly through virtual box. Please try another XP machine before anything else (i think you can manage a friend with one since M$ is so spread - unfortunantely )
cheers
well thats what it was, i did a dual boot on my linux laptop with xp sp2. ran button rom and flashed first time. thank you both very much.
litlldevill666 said:
well that's what it was, i did a dual boot on my linux laptop with xp sp2. ran button rom and flashed first time. thank you both very much.
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Thanx ! it was pleasure to help you,hope you upgrade it successfully,do let us know if there's any problem,we are always here to help,Thats what this excellent forum is all about !!!
Hi, first of all let me begin by saying that I have spent a long time reading around through the guides and forums about flashing rom/radio to my Rohdium but still face problems. I have successfully flash my old TyTN II and Orange E650 but am at a loss as to why Im struggling this time round!
I flashed the Hard SPL which went 'fairly' smoothly, got there in the end after having problems on WIndows 7 64bit and then succeeded using Xp 32. However when trying to flash a new rom and/or radio I am greeted with an error, that being Error 284. I have tried like I say on Win7 64, Xp32 and when the error pops up my phone gets stuck on the process bar and forced to pull battery out. I then put it back in and it freezes on bootloader. The RUU software trys to recover but it is a loop of the same thing happening (attempts and then crashes). The only way to get out of this mess was strangely reflashing HardSPL which recovers it and allows me to boot to Windows. I have tried flashing a radio and/or rom whilst in sync within windows, I have tried flashing when manually forcing the phone to enter bootloader, I even paid the £10 to get the unlocker which would patch the special radio but that even returns the same error. I have the sim card out and storage card, battery charged over 50%. I even tried the Mtty program (sorry if mispelled, at work now and can't fully remember name!) when it was stuck at bootloader and using the "boot" command it boots as far as Touch Pro 2 logo but then doesn't progress, then i resorted to reflashing HardSPL which allowed me to boot properly. I just don't know what else to try!
Like I said Im sorry if this is obvious to someone but I have tried alot!
Many thanks in advance if someone could help!
* Update: Just tried flashing a radio on my works computer (XP 32) and it flashed no problem!? Wonder why my operating systems had an issue?
** SOLVED! ** - got home and randomly tried again on Win7 64 without using my USB extension cable and plugged into a different USB port directly and it worked! Faulty cable maybe, bad luck, who knows, it works!
Thanks.
Sound like maybe your RUU/update utility may have gotten corrupted. I would try to re-download the rom you want to flash over to your home pc again and try to re-flash.
If that doesn't work, you can always flash your rom through the storage card.
hmmm yea thats possible, will try when I get back in couple of hours thanks! Just seemed weird how nothing was working, different roms (cooked roms or shipped roms) and even the security/sim unlocker that I purchased......mystery!
USB cable tends to go bad easily! That might be the reasion why!
I have no idea what has happened to my PC since the last time I flashed, but now the RomUpdateUtility.exe is returning error 260 even when I'm on the tri-color screen. I've left it plugged in for a bit, tried replugging it, etc... no luck.
I did a bunch of Google searched before deciding on opening a thread because nothing was helping.
Running Win 7 x64. In my device manager I have an 'Other Device' labeled Qualcomm CDMA Technologies MSM...
Well... as soon as I make a post I get it working by deleting the driver and doing a re-installing the driver by telling it to search windows update for one.
Okay - I admit it's been a while since I programmed anything, but the desire to root my HTC Hero (Sprint) has brought me back into the game.
Thanks to the recent patch from HTC/Sprint (I have the 2.32.651.2 build#), I can't do a simple root using Androot or Unrevoked or z4root, etc.
Plus, since I have Win7(x64), I have serious difficulties reverting my phone back to a previous issue (the lovely USB error issue that comes up with the RUU flash). I tried replacing the driver and no luck.
So - I tried going the more fun, extended route, using SDK. Now - even though I have the latest version of JDK - the SDK installer is not recognizing JDK on my system. I've searched through the Android developers forum and even Google admits it shouldn't be that difficult and they'll work on addressing it in an upcoming release.
WTF?!
I'm starting to think I might have to venture into the bowels of my garage and dust off the old XP box... I'd rather avoid doing that, so any assistance y'all can provide is greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
Why not make a backup of everything, Wipe your whole system. Flash with a Rooted Stock ROM and restore backup. Then you have a good new phone...
ARGH! Can't anyone read?
Can't u hunt down old version of sdk?
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
There are plenty of sources to get a free copy of microsoft's virtual machine software. I want to say you can get VM 2007 for free directly from microsoft, but it's been a while since I've looked into it. Could do a VM and have it run XP, if you have a legit key there should be no problem.
no... school is for fools!!!
sorry bud about your luck... if it makes you feel any better, forced to use an old XP to update my dad's HTC Wizard from WM 5 to WM 6.5... that's not happening!
although, now that I think about it, this was the wizard forum's suggestion, use the XP Virutalization in Win7... it didn't work for me, but you could give it a shot!
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There are plenty of sources to get a free copy of microsoft's virtual machine software. I want to say you can get VM 2007 for free directly from microsoft, but it's been a while since I've looked into it. Could do a VM and have it run XP, if you have a legit key there should be no problem.
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Beat me to it, ugh, can't type as fast after my surgery. Yes, VM 2007 is free, you also have to download XP mode to make it emulate XP. There's a MS website that gives you the three steps, all free downloads. Just make sure your copy of Win is authentic... whoops on my part. The internet is amazing!
Right click on the RUU.exe and run as an adminstrator. Some have also run it in WinXP SP3 compatability mode. It's been a while but when the phone reboots and you get the blank screen followed by the USB error, disonnect the USB cable from the phone for about 5 seconds. Plug it back in and you should get the white screen with 3 androids at the bottom. Close the RUU and reun it again. It should recognize the phone and update.
I remember it being very frustrating but it did finally work. Good luck.
This isn't really the place for this, but these questions have already been covered, many many times..
Rooting instructions. I know this works on the latest official sprint, because I've done it successfully.
As far as not being able to RUU, some people have an issue running the RUU if they haven't ran HTC Sync. Try that and see if it works, and if not, follow this method.
HERCIMG-2.31.651.7.ZIP download it. it's the Sprint 2.31.651.7 executable but in signed zip format, for people who aren't running windows. Not sure who actually converted the executable to a signed zip, but props to you for helping those that can't run the regular RUU.
Rename the file to HERCIMG.zip and place it on the root of your SD card.
Power the phone off.
Press and hold your Volume Down button, and while still holding it press the power button to power your phone back up into HBoot mode.
HBoot should then automatically verify the zip file, and ask you if you would like
to flash it. Press your trackball to confirm the update (downgrade in this case),
or press your send button to cancel.
Once on 651.7 you would root as normal, but you should not have to RUU back to 651.7 just to root.
SirRipo said:
There are plenty of sources to get a free copy of microsoft's virtual machine software. I want to say you can get VM 2007 for free directly from microsoft, but it's been a while since I've looked into it. Could do a VM and have it run XP, if you have a legit key there should be no problem.
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I know I had a version of Microsoft VM on Vista, but it seems under Windows 7 it will only work for the top end (professional/Enterprise/Ultimate)? Home premium and basic versions will not run VM.
Microsoft also (for those running pro/enterprise/ultimate) offers "Windows XP Mode" for free, if your system passes WGA. just google windows xp mode and it should pop up to the microsoft site that lets you download all of the required files.
I installed it on my laptop and desktop, and it runs fine on both. (Better on the laptop, actually).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=801570
This might help with your driver issues
So where is the ROM or ROM development?
@moxlon - I just have "Premium" and honestly not sure if I need to fork over another $200 to microsoft. Tried the HERCIMG, but it just says there is "no img or wrong img". Any ideas?
to the rest of you - thanks for tolerating my ineptitude.
Same issue
I had the same issues when I tried to run the RUU and revert. Basically I had to download the HTC sync first and let it do its thing with the drivers and such. Then I went back in and ran the RUU, it got to a point where it was stuck, I forget exactly which point, but you will know. I unplugged the phone from the computer and closed down the RUU and reran it and it went through. Its kinda weird, but will work. I am also running Windows 7 x64...
Try this. Runs on my Win7 machine and on the latest update. I know because I have done it several times. Extract to SDK tools folder, right click app (it will be red), and run as admin.
New SDK on Win7 x64
As big a pain as it can be. Simply install the 32 bit version of JDK and it'll find it just fine.
wfetter said:
As big a pain as it can be. Simply install the 32 bit version of JDK and it'll find it just fine.
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Even with 32 bit mine is hit or miss. Gotta love technology sometimes...
yeah it's a gas aint it ... pffft
guitarjuggalo said:
I had the same issues when I tried to run the RUU and revert. Basically I had to download the HTC sync first and let it do its thing with the drivers and such. Then I went back in and ran the RUU, it got to a point where it was stuck, I forget exactly which point, but you will know. I unplugged the phone from the computer and closed down the RUU and reran it and it went through. Its kinda weird, but will work. I am also running Windows 7 x64...
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This is what I had to do, too. I'm running Win7 x64. Each time I would run the Sprint RUU 2.27.651.5, it would get stuck and error out on when the phone reboots to the bootloader. Once that happens, leave the phone alone, but unplug it from the computer, plug it back in and re-run the RUU. It works.
I've done that twice to my phone in the past week.
Wow, wish I found this before LOL
Just posted this a few min ago http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9964489#post9964489
Maybe change the title so people can find this that are having RUU issues? I only clicked because I was like conspiracy? I'd love to read this one LOL
I didn't search today because I didn't think there would be anything new from days ago when I was trying to run RUU since it's just the Hero lol
Wow forget the RUU, thanks for the zip file to flash! I found one before but was like eh.... doesn't sound as official.