I'm about to have a G1 soon. Just would like to know, how does the built-in email app in 2.0 compares to K-9...? Which one is better in your opinions?
Thanks in advance.
I use Gmail for my personal use as it pushes the email out as soon as it arrives.
I use K-9 Mail for my work email account - there is no push - K-9 Mail can be set to check the mail at different intervals.
They both are free and they both have a few different features.
My advice - use them both for awhile and then get rid of whatever one you like the least.
Unless you're using a half-complete Eclair rom, you won't be getting 2.0 email until HTC updates their drivers.
But if you're looking for push email, Seven is a good one. It's in beta, so you have to register (but it's automatic, no waiting), but the client isn't that bad. It pushes through their servers like Google does for Gmail, and it also works for other email services like Hotmail, Yahoo, Aol, etc.
K-9 does do Push. If you connect to an IMAP server, K-9 uses the IMAP IDLE command to quietly wait for mail notification. I get notified on my phone as fast as running Thunderbird on my PC.
tdusen said:
K-9 does do Push. If you connect to an IMAP server, K-9 uses the IMAP IDLE command to quietly wait for mail notification. I get notified on my phone as fast as running Thunderbird on my PC.
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Thunderbird isn't push
But the OP was wondering about the Android 2.0 E-mail app if I am not mistaken, not the Gmail app.
Yep. It's my understanding that in 2.0 the Gmail app has been integrated into the Email app, correct?
I'm getting a G1, probably will install Cyan on it. But I don't like 2 email apps. So I wonder if there's a compelling reason to use a half-baked 2.0 on it.
Thanks to all.
tekkitan said:
Thunderbird isn't push
But the OP was wondering about the Android 2.0 E-mail app if I am not mistaken, not the Gmail app.
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I guess it depends on your definition of push.
Most people think of Push email as Instant notification. Thunderbird connected to an IMAP server provides instant notification by using the IMAP IDLE command. This does require a permanent connection to the IMAP server.
Find out more about Thunderbird and IMAP here: http://kb.mozillazine.org/IMAP
And this paper compares various methods of "Push" notifications: http://www.isode.com/whitepapers/imap-idle.html
K-9 Supports IMAP IDLE and so gives instant notification of new mail.
(I'm not the developer, just a fan)
tdusen said:
I guess it depends on your definition of push.
Most people think of Push email as Instant notification. Thunderbird connected to an IMAP server provides instant notification by using the IMAP IDLE command. This does require a permanent connection to the IMAP server.
Find out more about Thunderbird and IMAP here: http://kb.mozillazine.org/IMAP
And this paper compares various methods of "Push" notifications: http://www.isode.com/whitepapers/imap-idle.html
K-9 Supports IMAP IDLE and so gives instant notification of new mail.
(I'm not the developer, just a fan)
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I wasn't aware Thunderbird did that, I don't use it as such, not really a big fan of it. I point all my personal domains e-mail to Gmail
edit: I also tried k-9 for another one of my accounts. Didn't like it that much. The interface was mostly annoying to me.
My phone was out of storage so anytime I wanted to install a new program, I had to uninstall an old one. I installed Diskusage to see what was causing it and K9 mail was taking 95MB. I deleted all messages from the trash and inbox folder and it was the same. I uninstalled it and reinstalled it and it is now normal. Any ideas why K9 mail was taking so much storage?
On Cyanogen's ROM, there's 2 email apps. One called eMail and the other is Work Email. I want to sync my school email to the phone. So, I don't want it taking them off the server but just copying them. Anyway let me know which one I should be using, and maybe what's different about them?
I'd usually forward to my Gmail but my school filters out forwarded mail to Gmail.
You should use eMail for the task. Work Mail is to connect to exchange server.
My suggestion is K9 Mail. You can download from Market, and it has much more features than stock eMail app.
There is no free Mail app for Android I tried so far that I could say I like.
GMail app misses some important GMail functions, eMail app never ever shows me notifications even though I enabled them, Work eMail is exchange only with nearly no options and K9 has graphical, usability and speed issues.
Maybe I should try Touchdown Exchange for my University Mail (which uses exchange).
Are there any other Mail apps someone could recommend?
My first post. So Exciting
Has anyone who is running FROYO on their Captivate setup their Hotmail (or MSN or Live) email account through the exchange server settings (I think it's called a "Corporate" account in the new acccounts setup menu)? If so, are you receiving HTML email?
A few months ago, Hotmail began offering Exchange email services through Activesync, and it does work with my bone stock Captivate (syncs email, all folders, contacts and calendar), except the email is not HTML, and thus many emails become useless. I have researched this, and its a known problem with Hotmail, but I also read that it was supposed to be resolved in newer software versions, so I wondered if HTML Hotmail email was working in beta FROYO?
yeah, i was wondering the same thing
Well, a quick google search turned up this post on the droidforums: http://www.droidforums.net/forum/dr...mail-android-finally-good-way.html#post786175
I will follow the directions there and let you know how it goes. Hopefully it doesn't muck up my K9 settings. But that's what a backup is for!
Edit: Looks like it does work. Now I don't use Hotmail as my main email, I use my Gmail account. So I don't really have any contacts or calenders to test if they synced or not. As for everything else, you have the green light sir.
Thank you miztaken for your help. The link you sent is actually not fully accurate, as Activsync support does work with Android 2.1 (as I am currently using it on my stock Captivate) - it is just that HTML email does not work on Android 2.1 , but everything else does (calendar & contacts sync and email folder support).
So, did you get Hotmail HTML email to work with Froyo (through Exchange/Activesync / Add Account, Corporate) ?
Well it would be nice if it worked in the stock email app, but it doesn't. Just a bunch of hyperlinks. I'll try it through the K9 email app I use and try again.
Edit: For the life of my I can't get the damn thing to talk to the SMTP server for Hotmail on K9. I'll mess with it some more when I get more free time.
I haven't been able to get exchange HTML hotmail ever on an android... used 3rd party apps and nothing. Quite frustrating... i'm running on 2.2 and it syncs everything but no HTML.
If using pop3 it works. Exchange is a no-go.
Yeah, exactly, POP delivers perfect HTLM Hotmail email, but once you get used to how incredible exchange email is, it's hard to go back to POP.
I guess based on what snieves said, HTML Hotmail is a no go even on Android 2.2, but for the sake of further annoying myself, I'll test it this weekend by flashing the latest COG 2.2 BETA8 to my Captivate, and I'll report back. Unfortunately, if I cant get it to work, I think I'll move on to a WIN 7 phone.
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Yeah, exactly, POP delivers perfect HTLM Hotmail email, but once you get used to how incredible exchange email is, it's hard to go back to POP.
I guess based on what snieves said, HTML Hotmail is a no go even on Android 2.2, but for the sake of further annoying myself, I'll test it this weekend by flashing the latest COG 2.2 BETA8 to my Captivate, and I'll report back. Unfortunately, if I cant get it to work, I think I'll move on to a WIN 7 phone.
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You would seriously switch to a different platform just because of email? Why? Just make a Gmail account, have your Hotmail forwarded to the Gmail, and set your phone up for that Gmail account. Then you have push email with HTML support.
It is a little bit long winded, but it's not worth the switch just for email.
Gmail sux, so outdated and just absolutely hate their web client. hotmail is way better, right click menus, reply button is right there, not at bottom of thread like crappy gmail. And whats up with no standard html email client in android. So hate how they lock **** down so you have to use their services. K9 sux also, POP and IMAP, come on. Someone please make a proper FREE email client for android that dose it all. Think im gona go back to windows mobile.
hi, no news?
BUMP
Why is this still not working. Gmail works, hotmail connects and sync's fine by doesn't load HTML via 'corporate' but POP does load them - there must be a simple explaination and fix???
texwatson said:
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Why is this still not working. Gmail works, hotmail connects and sync's fine by doesn't load HTML via 'corporate' but POP does load them - there must be a simple explaination and fix???
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My understanding is that it has to do with the Exchange ActiveSync servers used by Hotmail. The version 2.5 EAS servers that they use don't technically support HTML. So when Android sees that the version doesn't support HTML it downloads the emails as plain text. The post also said that the iPhone will download HTML messages from the Hotmail EAS servers because its email program was written to ignore the EAS version number and force HTML d/l. I read this several different places, but here is one of those sources....
http://thecioblog.info/2010/09/01/hotmail-now-has-push-e-mail-contacts-calendar-synchronization/
It appears that HTML e-mail is only possible via iPhone and will be available on Windows Phone 7. ....Hotmail’s Exchange ActiveSync implementation decided only to use the Exchange ActiveSync 2.5 (Exchange Server 2003 SP2) protocol because they feel that’s the protocol that “most” devices with Exchange ActiveSync clients use. ... For most non-iOS and WP7, you will not be able to receive “native” HTML email at delivery on your device. This is because EAS 2.5 only supports plain text email sync. They could’ve also implemented Exchange ActiveSync 12.0, which does allow for HTML email. Somehow, iOS’s developers have programmed their EAS client such that it represents faithful HTML email for Hotmail. Overall, though, this is Windows Live’s crow to eat...
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Basically, to get HTML emails from Hotmail, either MS would have to upgrade their AES servers, or someone will have to figure out how Apple got the iOS email client to see Hotmail messages as HTML & duplicate it on Android.
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or someone will have to figure out how Apple got the iOS email client to see Hotmail messages as HTML & duplicate it on Android.
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Ok...so who is up for the challenge . I am currently trying out XDANDROID on my TP2 and am seriously considering making the switch as I am sure many are. This is a big draw back for those who have used WinMo for years and have everything tied into MS Live services.
Yes, I could make the big transition, but it just doesn't make sense that if iPhone can recieve HTML Hotmail via Exchange, no reason why Android can't.
Anyone know if it will be supported with Gingerbread?
give this a try. though it doesnt work for everyone it works for me. im the OP...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=960269
its the samsung social hub and email deodexed. works great with hotmail and msn messanger for me on firefly in canada where it originated.
MSN / Hotmail HTML Email Works via MS Exchange Activesync !
So I did get rid of the captivate long ago and went back to a BB 9700, than a 9780. I got the itch again and just bought a Samsung Infuse yesterday. It took 4 tries to get it working, but Finally, I can confirm for sure, that on a 100% stock AT&T Infuse, MSN / Hotmail via Microsoft Exchange Activesync does come through as HTML email. The email initially comes through as text, but there is a buton that says "Load More Details", and when you seect that button, it loads the HTML version (and on the huge Infuse screen, looks incredible).
I am guessing that the stock Samsung email app on the Infuse is used on most/all Samsung phones. Here is what I did:
Accounts and Sync
Add Account
[ ] Microsoft Exchange Activesync
Enter you email address
Enter your password
NEXT
Domain\Username: \[email protected] (just enter your email address @msn or @Hotmail and make sure to put the \ before your email address)
Password: re type your password. I tried several times and I was only able to finish the setup if i retyped my password on this screen
Exchange server: m.hotmail.com (works regardless if you are @msn or @hotmail)
Check the Use Secure Connection (SSL)
And on the next screen, just select the options that are important to you.
It works perfectly for me.
DeliciousPHO said:
So I did get rid of the captivate long ago and went back to a BB 9700, than a 9780. I got the itch again and just bought a Samsung Infuse yesterday. It took 4 tries to get it working, but Finally, I can confirm for sure, that on a 100% stock AT&T Infuse, MSN / Hotmail via Microsoft Exchange Activesync does come through as HTML email. The email initially comes through as text, but there is a buton that says "Load More Details", and when you seect that button, it loads the HTML version (and on the huge Infuse screen, looks incredible).
I am guessing that the stock Samsung email app on the Infuse is used on most/all Samsung phones. Here is what I did:
Accounts and Sync
Add Account
[ ] Microsoft Exchange Activesync
Enter you email address
Enter your password
NEXT
Domain\Username: \[email protected] (just enter your email address @msn or @Hotmail and make sure to put the \ before your email address)
Password: re type your password. I tried several times and I was only able to finish the setup if i retyped my password on this screen
Exchange server: m.hotmail.com (works regardless if you are @msn or @hotmail)
Check the Use Secure Connection (SSL)
And on the next screen, just select the options that are important to you.
It works perfectly for me.
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Wow sir. You are a god among men. This worked PERFECTLY for me just now. I finally can have ALL my email accounts on my phone finally.
Edit: Don't see the "Load More Details" button on the stock email app.
I have now tried several different ROMS on my Infuse, and all of the Email Apps are more or less the same, and when you open a email, a gray button appears at the bottom of the screen that says " Load more details ". I would have to think this is always there, becuase when setting up the email account in the first place, it asks you how much (2K, 5K, 20K, etc...) you want to download per email. I believe I set mine to 2K. Anyway, when I click the load more details button, the complete HTML email appears after a few seconds. Nice.
Try Exchange mail with HTML, In-line replies
Has anyone tried the new Kaiten Mail app by the Creator of K-9 mail. It is suppose to be for tablets and HD phones. I thought it was in beta, but it is in the Amazon App store for $5.
http://www.amazon.com/K-9-Dog-Walkers-Kaiten-Mail/dp/B004UBB1G2
Looks nice just did not know it was even out yet.
I just bought it and its fantastic. Got my Gmail/yahoo/live accounts set up. Interface is set up nicely as this is aimed for tabs. Plenty of features. By far the best email app I've tried. I've tried just about all of them out there. Well worth the 5 bucks.
Thanks for letting me know. I have always liked K-9 so this is something I was looking forward to.
Wow this has instantly become my favorite email app for the gtab. The layout is excellent and makes effecient use of screen real estate. At the same time it has all the configuration that k-9 has unlike the client from NI. I have not had any DC yet. So far so good.
This might be a dumb question but will this client work for MS Exchange email accounts?
Anyone know how to select a default email account? Its always starts out displaying all the accounts. I want to open it, and it start on gmail. I've looked in in the settings to no avail! Thanks!
Found it! I kept reading over it.
Just got it today, very nice.
Anyone know how to setup more than one Google account? I have one Gmail account then my work email is a Google app account (cloudtrigger.com). When I try to set it up I con only choose from imap, pop3 or exchange...none of them work.
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This might be a dumb question but will this client work for MS Exchange email accounts?
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Apparently only Exchange 2003, but I'm still having trouble getting it to authenticate.
Works well on my DroidInc2 (4" screen)
Sent from my ADR6350 using XDA App
How do I setup a yahoo account?
It works ok with my gmail account and my ISP's IMAP account, but I can see my yahoo email but can't send from it. How do I set up a yahoo mail account?
Thanks!
Heyho,
i'm searching for an email app wich allows me to check my mails i sent from Thunderbird on Win7 when im not at home. Normally on my android device it works properly with K9 and imap on both programs, but on my Win7 device it didn't.
Ja i set everything to imap, maybe interesting it's an gmx adress. And normally they want to be paid for imap, but it works also if u enter smtp... yourself.
Regards Max
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hi max
The only thing i've managed to get working is gmail.
I have gmail check my 3 pop email accounts ( all seperate mail servers)
On WP7.5 under gmail account i can find each folder ( i have set up in Gmail to keep the 3 inboxes seperate) and pin the inbox to the home screen.
On the home screen i can see when and how many mails are in each mail box
I like gmail as it means even if i loose my phone or whatever, i can always check all my mail on one webmail account
Works great
gmail, yahoo, hotmail all work perfectly fine in wp7.
I set up an IMAP server we use at work, without any problems.
Do you get an error message?