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Hi,
I'm having my Nexus One for about two weeks now and I already started a thread about the choppy scrolling between homescreens but now I want to know if there are other people that find their Nexus One slow and if they were able to make it faster in any way.
When I bought this phone I thought android would 'fly' on it cause I already had a HTC Magic and that went reasonably fast. But everything I'm using on my Nexus One feels choppy and not fluent as I expected/want it to be. For example when you start the browser or any other program you get this zoom animation which is nice but it doesn't go fluent, it goes choppy like you would play a videogame with 5 FPS.
And as I already mentioned the same counts for the launcher, it's just not fluent and doesn't feel fast at all.
I've tested different rom's, froyo, etc. but nothing seems to make it right so now I'm wondering if there are people that have the same issue's? Is it normal that the Nexus One isn't super fast to use or is there something wrong with my phone and should I return it?
i think something is wrong. especially with froyo the phone is ultra-fast.
Try Linpack and some other benchmarks and post the results.
Or try osmonitor for example and see what the cpu speed does, perhaps it is stuck @ 245 mhz for some reason lol
Ok, my score in Linpack is 6844 (MFLOPS). Don't know if that's good or bad. In BencmarkPi my Nexus One calculates Pi in 2842 miliseconds. And in Neocore I get 26.4 FPS which seems pretty normal to me.
I don't think my problems are hardware related, it more feels like it's the software.
Ow and I ran OSmonitor now and there's something strange. It says Memory Total: 217.440K Free: 67.500K
Is this a known bug or should it say 512MB?
renegadEEE said:
Ok, my score in Linpack is 6844 (MFLOPS). Don't know if that's good or bad. In BencmarkPi my Nexus One calculates Pi in 2842 miliseconds. And in Neocore I get 26.4 FPS which seems pretty normal to me.
I don't think my problems are hardware related, it more feels like it's the software.
Ow and I ran OSmonitor now and there's something strange. It says Memory Total: 217.440K Free: 67.500K
Is this a known bug or should it say 512MB?
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your using eclair without a highmem kernel, thats why it only shows that much RAM. What roms have you tried? Try cyanogens or even stock froyo and see how the speed improves. I think you may be feeling its slow because of the extra animations that werent present during 1.6 which is what the MT3G is on
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your using eclair without a highmem kernel, thats why it only shows that much RAM. What roms have you tried? Try cyanogens or even stock froyo and see how the speed improves. I think you may be feeling its slow because of the extra animations that werent present during 1.6 which is what the MT3G is on
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But the kernel thing doesn't affect the speed? I believe stock Froyo is one of the best I've tried so far. I tried cyanogen too, 5.0.7 I believe, but the launcher was extremely slow on that one.
Or am I flashing my roms the wrong way so things don't run smooth? I just download the .zip files, put them on my sd card, boot into recovery, whipe and flash. Normally it should work that way I believe.
And on my HTC Magic I was using a rom with Sense UI that worked very smooth. Maybe I should try the Desire ports but I like the stock Nexus One UI better.
Also I can't understand why there are developers OC'en the Nexus One? If it's really that fast already why would you risk that you're phone dies quicker for that extra performance?
And I don't hate animations, I even like them, but not if they are choppy.
renegadEEE said:
But the kernel thing doesn't affect the speed? I believe stock Froyo is one of the best I've tried so far. I tried cyanogen too, 5.0.7 I believe, but the launcher was extremely slow on that one.
Or am I flashing my roms the wrong way so things don't run smooth? I just download the .zip files, put them on my sd card, boot into recovery, whipe and flash. Normally it should work that way I believe.
And on my HTC Magic I was using a rom with Sense UI that worked very smooth. Maybe I should try the Desire ports but I like the stock Nexus One UI better.
Also I can't understand why there are developers OC'en the Nexus One? If it's really that fast already why would you risk that you're phone dies quicker for that extra performance?
And I don't hate animations, I even like them, but not if they are choppy.
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the kernel is actually the primary factor when it comes to speed. how the kernel manages actions on the phone is the deciding factor on what makes it run fast. you can have a very fast phone hardwarewise, but if the kernel is designed poorly, the phone will run slow as well. Using a kernel that does not have highmem enabled means your probably running an older kernel that does not have updates for speed. the latest froyo kernel has highmem and JIT enabled for faster application use as well as over smoother feel.
i love the animations as well
im coming from the G1 and i havent had any of the of the problems you seem to be having. you are flashing the roms correctly (unless there are additional things such as google apps you need, idk whats the procedure on that for the nexus) Im running fully stock with froyo FRF72.
I would imagine that Desire would be SLOWER than stock android not faster. However the animations may be better optimized. I only used sense on the G1 and it was slow as heck on there (i would have used it all the time otherwise) The main reason that things look so choppy is because rendering is not handled by the GPU, rather the CPU. This puts more strain on the CPU than should be necessary.
I don't get why they OC the CPU either. Seriously, 1gHz is fast for a PHONE. I can understand why when the phone starts getting dated why you would....but its not gonna be dated till at least Q4 2010 when the 1.2-2gHz snapdragons are coming out.
Qualcomm will have a 1.5gHz ready for new phones this year. DUAL-CORE
http://gizmodo.com/5443976/qualcomm...dragon-smartphones-are-about-to-go-hyperspeed
As for the problem. Sounds weird. Try LauncherPro for a test. That is smooth launcher that flows like butter. If that is choppy then there is something seriously fu-bar going on with yer phone
I've flashed the stock froyo FRF50 now and till now it looks a lot better. OS manager now shows a total of 400MB memory. Is this the normal amount it should show? Or should I be looking for another kernel for froyo? And what is the difference between froyo FRF50 and FRF72?
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so is your nexus smooth and fluid now? because mine is very smooth swiping the homescreens. using launcher pro. no choppiness at all.
Stock launchers to me are kinda choppy too. And that was my only complain with the nexus. Like the previous posters advised, try launcher pro and adwlauncher, tweak the settings to your liking and you'll see the difference. As far as kernel for froyo try pershoots kernel, it seems to be very smooth and speedy.
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I've flashed the stock froyo FRF50 now and till now it looks a lot better. OS manager now shows a total of 400MB memory. Is this the normal amount it should show? Or should I be looking for another kernel for froyo? And what is the difference between froyo FRF50 and FRF72?
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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400 is normal. FRF72 seems to help battery life greatly for me. browser seems more stable and google apps have been updated (alarm and calendar)
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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Minor suggestion - install ADW.Launcher (you'll have to tweak the settings a bit to make it nice) or Launcher Pro (works great as is) with your Froyo ROM. You'll thank me for it. The stock launcher scrolling is choppy - always has been, never was really fixed in Froyo (at least as of FRF50 - I haven't even bothered trying it with FRF72).
Ok so I love android and all of it's openness and mods. I like to modify all electronics that I have. But the only problem I have with it is that it isn't smooth. I have had an iPhone in the past and it was smooth. It just confuses me how 1ghz can lag on a mobile os. I guess this rant is to ask how do I smooth the edges. I've tried many roms and some were better than others. One major thing I want is when I unlock it, when I slide homescreen, and when I open the app drawer to be smooth. Any ideas settings roms?
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Read through a lot of threads, and understand that there isn't what you're looking for. You might try MIUI, people report it as smooth - never tried it personally. Also, for launcher use LauncherPro, it's smooth.
About the gigahertz stuff: CPU speed doesn't matter as much as SW does. And there is no "smoothness support" yet.
Android isn't smooth. It's powerful, though. Personally, I like the trade off.
jakeneal22 said:
Ok so I love android and all of it's openness and mods. I like to modify all electronics that I have. But the only problem I have with it is that it isn't smooth. I have had an iPhone in the past and it was smooth. It just confuses me how 1ghz can lag on a mobile os. I guess this rant is to ask how do I smooth the edges. I've tried many roms and some were better than others. One major thing I want is when I unlock it, when I slide homescreen, and when I open the app drawer to be smooth. Any ideas settings roms?
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delete all your apps, turn off all services, and it will run just like the iphone. kill every app after you use it. - that's what the iphone does.
You can tweak the internal task killer to speed up your phone. It takes some work and testing. This thread has the directions and explanations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666
Geo411m's ROM has these tweaks built in and they work really well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7008637&highlight=internal+task+killer#post7008637
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You can tweak the internal task killer to speed up your phone. It takes some work and testing. This thread has the directions and explanations.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622666
Geo411m's ROM has these tweaks built in and they work really well.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7008637&highlight=internal+task+killer#post7008637
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This has been useless since Froyo. As I once researched and posted, Froyo kills the processes much earlier than Eclair (OOM=12 instead of 16) and considering the amount of memory on Nexus - you never get anywhere below 100MB free unless you run a super-heavy app, and those never stay in background.
Now these tweaks don't do a thing.
does power mean smoothness? I just don't get the concept of having a fast processor and not being smooth. I mean it is almost the same speed as my netbook... on a phone. It seems like that should be smooth. Maybe I'm asking for to much. But another thing I have seen videos of people on cyanogen and it is running smoothly with a live wallpaper. I have never got cyanogen to run smoothly for me even with a still wallpaper. Is there some magical setting everyone but me knows about?
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Read through a lot of threads, and understand that there isn't what you're looking for. You might try MIUI, people report it as smooth - never tried it personally. Also, for launcher use LauncherPro, it's smooth.
About the gigahertz stuff: CPU speed doesn't matter as much as SW does. And there is no "smoothness support" yet.
Android isn't smooth. It's powerful, though. Personally, I like the trade off.
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Power = ability to do things. Not CPU power, OS power.
Smoothness = frame rate of transitions between screens in UI. By most part, it's a result of heavy GPU utilization (which Android doesn't do stock) and programming that puts graphics as top priority (which isn't the case with Android). When CPU is made busy making beautiful graphics, it makes beautiful graphics. When it's not the main concern - it makes what it makes.
Again, you seem to be complaining about the launcher - otherwise you wouldn't bring this live wallpaper thing. So go download LauncherPro.
Folks go on about miui being smooth but personally I found it quite choppy at times, and this was most evident using the miui default launcher and comparing to say an iPhone 4, it looks very stuttery. Its better with launcherpro, but then you've lost half the reason for using it.
I am using cm6 and a theme (minimal matte fwiw ) and its very smooth and nice looking (and believe me I am very sensitive to, and loathe slow performance on a latest Gen phone).
Best compromise I've found yet on android.
I use the latest CM6 nightlies with Launcher Pro Plus and have a lot of widgets on my homescreen, smooth as butter.
I do remember the homescreen being a bit choppy when I ran 2.1 on my N1 though...
Have you messed with the performance settings? I hear that switching the performance setting to 24 instead of 34 helps. I'm not on cyanogen right now so I don't remember the exact setting but it is cyan settings then performance.
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I use the latest CM6 nightlies with Launcher Pro Plus and have a lot of widgets on my homescreen, smooth as butter.
I do remember the homescreen being a bit choppy when I ran 2.1 on my N1 though...
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Truth of the matter is, is that Android running as SMOOTH as an iPhone would be difficult, simply because the IOS operating system doesnt allow any applications to run in the background. Android has TONS of apps that run in the background, and its still smooth as hell if your running the right ROM.
In all honestly, as much as I LOVE enomther and cyan ROMS, MIUI is hands down the smoothest and fastest ROM I have ever used. Give it a shot. I promise that if you can get past the iPhonish look, you will LOVE the speed and fluidness of the ROM. I cant recommend it enough.
I have used the miui roms and they are awesome. But honestly I just feel like a sell out while running them.
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jakeneal22 said:
I have used the miui roms and they are awesome. But honestly I just feel like a sell out while running them.
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Lol. Why? Because it's iPhone-like? That's a pretty bad reason to not use a great rom...
Possibly I don't know. Do you suggest a bundle or do you suggest the original with langauge packs
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Original with launcher pro and language pack
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Possibly I don't know. Do you suggest a bundle or do you suggest the original with langauge packs
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The reason why even iPhone 3G's can feel "smoother" than Android phones at most times: hardware acceleration.
Ever since the 2G they've had a dedicated GPU which was used to its fullest in basic UI interactions. We see phones like the SGS with freak GPUs but Android doesn't allow full use of them.
Phandroid made that article on a supposed "Gingerbread" leak. They claim it will introduce hardware acceleration. Hopefully thats true and we'll never hear complaints about a laggy UI again!
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The reason why even iPhone 3G's can feel "smoother" than Android phones at most times: hardware acceleration.
Ever since the 2G they've had a dedicated GPU which was used to its fullest in basic UI interactions. We see phones like the SGS with freak GPUs but Android doesn't allow full use of them.
Phandroid made that article on a supposed "Gingerbread" leak. They claim it will introduce hardware acceleration. Hopefully thats true and we'll never hear complaints about a laggy UI again!
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Yup, most of the smoothness complaints is just hardware acceleration complaints. After gingerbread if it has hardware acceleration, we won't hear the laggy UI issue, we'll just hear the bandwagon "Fragmentation!"
I've finally got a smooth handset. I'm on latest cyanogen with intersect raven kernel overclocked to 1333. I'm very impressed and I'm finally enjoying this phone. Btw I'm using launcher pro to
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Hi Guys,
I am currently running the CM7 ROM (7.1.0.6 Milestone-KANG) on my Milestone. While the ROM is much better and faster than the stock ROM it still gets slow and laggy sometimes (Overclocked to 800 MHz).
Please let me know which the are fastest Gingerbread based ROMs out there and is there anything else that can be done to increase the responsiveness of the device.
Cheers...
Chander
Try HO!NO 7.1.1. It is build from kabaldan source, Android 2.3.7 and I love it
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Ultimate Milestone (formerly Ice and Fire) is the fastest ROM i've used.
i used ultimate mod (ice and fire) but switchted to HO!NO! then.
i had trouble with minfree settings (check thread) that it killed my apps...
HO!NO! is even faster, more beautiful (i love this ICS design and transitions) and reliable (not killing any app). i only had to adjust permissions in OR once.
I must disagree with you guys. Ho!NO! ROM is very RAM consuming.
OK it looks nice but the phone is slow and lags a lot.
Stock froyo ROM with setcpu works faster, you must admit it.
I flashed my milestone with HO!NO! after reading this thread but i`m dissapointed.
I think I`ll give a try with a vanilla cyanogenmod
@up, apply Supercharger from zeppelinrox with best settings that fits for you and then try
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vangug said:
I must disagree with you guys. Ho!NO! ROM is very RAM consuming.
OK it looks nice but the phone is slow and lags a lot.
Stock froyo ROM with setcpu works faster, you must admit it.
I flashed my milestone with HO!NO! after reading this thread but i`m dissapointed.
I think I`ll give a try with a vanilla cyanogenmod
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where i find vanilla cm rom to milestone?
Ultimate Milestone (formerly Ice and Fire), is my best. Only complaint was camera (as with any CM7 based), then downloaded MIUI Camera and I'm done!
If you are open to something else.... the FASTEST rom out there is by far TelusLite (eclair and no longer developed) but if you want brute speed... that is the way to go.
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i used CM6 from milaq 6.3.x - 6.3.4).... very fast and "low" RAM usage
then switched to CM7... it works well too but i feel the RAM usage when opening apps like MAPS to navigate or want to play some games. navigation browser and apps may close without warning...
then tried again milaqs CM6 (6.3.6)... it was ok but RAM usage is not good as the versions before...
i recommend milaqs 6.3.3 or 6.3.4... these two are ok, fast and you can use the most apps withouts errors.... and with supercharger you can get 60-70MB free RAM
IMHO, HO!NO! is the fastest ROM with moderate amount of RAM. I've tried all other ROMs like CM7, Ultimate Milestone, CM6, Cronos, MIUI... but they couldn't meet my need as HO!NO! does.
Ok it was like 2.3 works pretty smooth on the outside but gets really lag when you actully use any apps. 2.2 roms are much better but there's always a hard choice on which 2.2 is better since now most developers are focusing on 2.3
KaitouKimura said:
IMHO, HO!NO! is the fastest ROM with moderate amount of RAM. I've tried all other ROMs like CM7, Ultimate Milestone, CM6, Cronos, MIUI... but they couldn't meet my need as HO!NO! does.
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This is true! i try all and HO!NO! is the best!
Regards,
I am currently using CM9 RC0 (built from source myself) and must say, despite the very early status I like it even better than the excellent CM7.1! It still has a few issues (e.g. keyboard backlight and camera don't work, though I think there is a fix for the former), however, overall, it feels much smoother to me. As always with our old Milestones, the biggest issue is memory... When limiting background apps to two, I have very little issues with that anymore.
Keep in mind though that this ROM is not intended for daily use, so you need to be as crazy as I am (remember, no camera)
can i use the HO!NO! in my Motorola Droid A855?
i recommend HO!NO! for milestone.. it works smooth and fast.. of course it comes with a great battery life
moriel73 said:
can i use the HO!NO! in my Motorola Droid A855?
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Not unless he's made a Droid version as well. Milestone and Droid ROMS are not interchangeable.
Thanks Guys!!!
Thanks a lot guys for your suggestions. i tried most of the ROMs but found Ho! No! to be the fastest. Even at 600 MHz the ROM is quite fast and smooth.
In fact I have been having a small problem with Ho! No! ROM. I am in India on AIRTEL 3G. Whenever I switch to 2G Network I tend to loose signal and after sometime the signal gets completely lost. If I remain in 3G only everything works fine but battery usage is obviously more. Moreover, recently after HO! NO! CM 7.1.3 I am not getting 3G speeds while internet browsing while being on 3G network.
Do I need to change my radio according to India (where to find the same and how to do it?)
I didn't have any such problems on CM 7!!!
Very n00bish question here, but I'm having trouble finding an updated source of comprehensive information. I accidentally smashed the screen on my Fascinate, so I have to fall back to using my Verizon OG Droid.
It was running old software, of course, so I flashed the newest CM7 nightly (update-cm-7-20120226-NIGHTLY-sholes-signed.zip). Also updated the baseband to the newest I could find (C_01.43.01P).
What is the newest or recommended ROMs/kernels these days? If there is an updated thread that lists them, that would be just as good.
Thanks!
I've been happy with Droid Concepts (Final Build 13). It's froyo based with plenty of options.
I have been very happy with Pete's Bugless Beast GPA 19 running ChevyNo1 uLow voltage kernel 1.0 Ghz. It's a stock Gingerbread based ROM that is very stable and great battery life.
Bugless Beast GPA 19 Peter Alfonso
ChevyNo1 Kernels for OG Droid
Steel Droid 10 was just released yesterday for the Droid, so that is probably the most recent ROM based off CM 7 source -
Steel Droid 10 via DroidForums
Here is a listing of most of the Rom's for the Droid:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/custom-roms/
There is also a ICS Rom in Pre-Alpha here at XDA based on CM 9 source
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393632
I am using the cm9 now. It is stable enough for daily light usage. There is some lag when opening and closing apps due to lack of ram. Android automatically closes background tasks when shortage of ram and reopens again when foreground app is closed. Even Camera is working now but still laggy. Launcher performs buttery smooth after all icons are loaded. Try this rom.
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I am using the cm9 now. It is stable enough for daily light usage. There is some lag when opening and closing apps due to lack of ram. Android automatically closes background tasks when shortage of ram and reopens again when foreground app is closed. Even Camera is working now but still laggy. Launcher performs buttery smooth after all icons are loaded. Try this rom.
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Since when did they get camera working?
Rylvir said:
I have been very happy with Pete's Bugless Beast GPA 19 running ChevyNo1 uLow voltage kernel 1.0 Ghz. It's a stock Gingerbread based ROM that is very stable and great battery life.
Bugless Beast GPA 19 Peter Alfonso
ChevyNo1 Kernels for OG Droid
Steel Droid 10 was just released yesterday for the Droid, so that is probably the most recent ROM based off CM 7 source -
Steel Droid 10 via DroidForums
Here is a listing of most of the Rom's for the Droid:
http://www.droidforums.net/forum/custom-roms/
There is also a ICS Rom in Pre-Alpha here at XDA based on CM 9 source
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393632
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Very nice info! I've been running Steel Droid 10 for the past few days with the included ChevyNo1 low voltage 1ghz kernel. It's nice looking, and runs pretty good. Not buttery smooth like the froyo cyanogenmod ROM's I used to run back in the day, but it's alright. I get about 18 hrs of battery life.
As tempting as the ICS rom sounds, I don't know if it could compare to ICS on the Fascinate. I was running AOKP, and it was a thing of beauty.
I've been thinking about rolling back to a froyo based ROM, but I haven't yet. Decisions, decisions.
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Very nice info! I've been running Steel Droid 10 for the past few days with the included ChevyNo1 low voltage 1ghz kernel. It's nice looking, and runs pretty good. Not buttery smooth like the froyo cyanogenmod ROM's I used to run back in the day, but it's alright. I get about 18 hrs of battery life.
As tempting as the ICS rom sounds, I don't know if it could compare to ICS on the Fascinate. I was running AOKP, and it was a thing of beauty.
I've been thinking about rolling back to a froyo based ROM, but I haven't yet. Decisions, decisions.
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I'm on SD10 also, it's really nice, I'm getting great battery life and performance. It's smoother than most GB based roms I have used.
ICS is actually very smooth on the D1 it's just very...unusuable for daily use. It's getting there very slowly.
Going back to froyo would be so hard every time I try I always end up back on GB because it has fancy things I find hard to live without anymore. DC13 is very very stable and fast though if you do go back
I have to give huge props to Pete Alphonso. I used my OG Droid as much as I could and pushed it to the limits every single day for over two years. I've installed probably 20 different roms and out of all of them the one that stands out was GPA19. I was able to overclock to 1300mhz stable. No other rom would allow me to run past 1100mhz.
It's clean, simple. Doesn't have any bloat or unwanted extras. I can't say enough about how great the GPA/BB ROMS have been. Pete is the master of the OG Droid
Best Rom??
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Personally I think that FroYoMOD is the best or Steel Droid
i have tried CM7, Liquid Smooth, ChevyNo1's Simply Stunning, MIUI, and Steel Droid. i just recently gave up on CM7 after a year or so because it just became too buggy. IMO, Steel Droid (currently v10) is the best in terms of stability, features, and battery life. Liquid Smooth is a close second, although not as stable and feature packed. MIUI is very stable and quick if you want something simple, though, it just doesn't have the features that the others do. SS was always snappy, i just got terrible battery life no matter which kernel i used.
So with all the flashing around I've done on my Nexus 4, I've come to the conclusion that some ROMs seem to be fast, and smooth, and some ROMs seem to be a bit laggy at some places. The lag is more noticeable while sending messages ending with Emojis on whatsapp, while using Swiftkey. Haven't been able to figure out what makes a ROM fast or slow, but let me list what ROMs I find fast, and which ones I find slow. Maybe someone else can make some sense out of it and find the root cause? Is it toolchain? Dalvik optimizations?
P.S: This thread is not here to compare ROMs. In fact, I *really* want to use the ROMs that I've classified as slow, hence I want to get to the bottom of this. These perceptions are based on me running the ROMs on Dalvik, and not ART.
Fast/Smooth ROMs:
Simple AOSP
Vanir
Carbon ROM
Purity
Liquid Smooth
Nameless ROM
Rastakat
Slow/Laggy ROMs:
Mahdi
Slim
crDroid
Found another way to reproduce how I classify ROMs as fast and slow. In a slow ROM, do a clean flash, and when entering your wifi password, if you tap the keys really fast on google keyboard, you'll notice that it will lag, and the vibration will lag too. This lag isn't present in fast ROMs.
CM11S is smooth too
I think smoothness is decided by maby factors kernel, cpu governer freq etc. Maybe you should use same settings and maybe even same kernel to compare different roms. And same set of apps.
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I think smoothness is decided by maby factors kernel, cpu governer freq etc. Maybe you should use same settings and maybe even same kernel to compare different roms. And same set of apps.
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Yep, of course, I use the same kernel with the same settings, and the same apps
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If I may I find that some Roms have a noise while using headphones in call. I noticed in purity and cm11. Noise is gone in 4.4.4 stock unless opening hangouts (only app I tested with). I also find the call quality to be less and more dropped calls on cm11. I have been on cm11 for a while and before that purity. I haven't tested many Roms.
It has something to do with kernel mahdi s a bit slow as it s packed with features but with some simple tweaks with my favorite kernel the ROM flies.
Ls is the fastest of all though an amazing ROM.
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Slim laggy and slow... L O L
This is a very foolish and silly thread l am going to stop there
lol slim is not slow or laggy
Yeah, too bad I don't have any way to quantify slow or fast. Only place I notice it is that the keyboard gets laggy in the slow ROMs
Some ROMs by default have different animation scale settings (in developer options). Default stock is 1.0x, but I've seen some ROMs that 0.75x or 0.50x as their default. This can make certain ROMs feel faster "out of the box".
I've tried maybe 20-25 different Nexus 4 ROMs in the past few weeks, and frankly none of them have felt slow or laggy, and I've never even tried switching to ART.
Planterz said:
Some ROMs by default have different animation scale settings (in developer options). Default stock is 1.0x, but I've seen some ROMs that 0.75x or 0.50x as their default. This can make certain ROMs feel faster "out of the box".
I've tried maybe 20-25 different Nexus 4 ROMs in the past few weeks, and frankly none of them have felt slow or laggy, and I've never even tried switching to ART.
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Yep, but I always set animation scale at 1x. Also, the lag is evident in opening the recents menu, and typing on keyboard. Even on google keyboard, if you have haptic enabled, you can feel that sometimes the keys lag, and sometimes the haptic feedback lags.
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kalpik said:
Yep, but I always set animation scale at 1x. Also, the lag is evident in opening the recents menu, and typing on keyboard. Even on google keyboard, if you have haptic enabled, you can feel that sometimes the keys lag, and sometimes the haptic feedback lags.
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Which slimkat build number did you test ? (and same questions applies for other roms)
How did you test it ? MultiRom ? Or Clean install after wiping the device ?
I personnally use Slim roms since 3.0, and didn't feel lags, especially on my Nexus 4
(it's laggy in fact on my Nexus S, but, not the same hardware !).
What a pity for a recognized contributor to provide so false informations.
benbugohit said:
Which slimkat build number did you test ? (and same questions applies for other roms)
How did you test it ? MultiRom ? Or Clean install after wiping the device ?
I personnally use Slim roms since 3.0, and didn't feel lags, especially on my Nexus 4
(it's laggy in fact on my Nexus S, but, not the same hardware !).
What a pity for a recognized contributor to provide so false informations.
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Latest version of all ROMs. Clean installs. No multirom. I'm sorry if people can't corroborate my findings. Guess I'm far too much sensitive to lags, than most other people
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I am on latest Mahdi and experiencing the very same LAG you were talking about. Swiftkey behaves absolutely erratic.
Thought of trying to SLIMKAT. After reading the post, I am puzzled . Love many of the features of Mahdi. Been with it
for more than 6 months.
kerins said:
I am on latest Mahdi and experiencing the very same LAG you were talking about. Swiftkey behaves absolutely erratic.
Thought of trying to SLIMKAT. After reading the post, I am puzzled . Love many of the features of Mahdi. Been with it
for more than 6 months.
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You're the first person to confirm my findings
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I'm currently using the ROM in my signature. It may be placebo, but this ROM is blazing fast. If you've time, just try it before i was on Mahdi too, but as said before, it became more and more unstable
These perceptions are based on me running the ROMs on Dalvik, and not ART.
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Something you shouldn't have been doing for at least one year, TITS (that is to say) since KK was released.
True performance is on ART. If someone wants to stick with the old fart for xposed it makes sense, but one can't judge a ROM basing on keyboard responsiveness.
Anything with justArchi mod should fly
Sir_gpm said:
Anything with justArchi mod should fly
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Can you list such roms?
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