n00b ROM question - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok I have rooted, installed rom manager, flashed clockwork, installed TI backup, taken a backup of my current samsung stock rom, and backed up all apps and data through ti. I am ready to flash a new rom. My question is can I flash to any rom out there but still go back to my stock rom at any time? Can I move to a custom froyo and then flash back to my eclair rom I backed up? Same for gingerbread (when it is available)?
I am all ready to take the next step but just want to make sure I can get back to where I am at now.
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JMakarius said:
Ok I have rooted, installed rom manager, flashed clockwork, installed TI backup, taken a backup of my current samsung stock rom, and backed up all apps and data through ti. I am ready to flash a new rom. My question is can I flash to any rom out there but still go back to my stock rom at any time? Can I move to a custom froyo and then flash back to my eclair rom I backed up? Same for gingerbread (when it is available)?
I am all ready to take the next step but just want to make sure I can get back to where I am at now.
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1. Take a backup using clock work recovery of ur eclair
2. Copy this to external SD or anywhere where it would be safe even if u formatted ur internal SD
3. Install ROMs of ur choice and play all u want
4. Use one click ODIN to get back to eclair stock
5. Go to clockwork and restore ur backup

As mentioned above odin is what will safely get you back to stock. Before you flash make sure you know how to and can use this program
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
The clockwork backup you made is good to restore your phone and settings to how you have them if you are on stock 2.1. Do not try to go to you're backup if you are on 2.2
I hope you have a pc and not a mac. It is easy and quick, allows you to go back to stock and recover from bad flashes. Good luck, and happy flashing
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Caution:
If you have a 1010 build phone (and perhaps 1009), DO NOT USE Odin 1-click JF6. There have been multiple reports of it bricking these newer build phones.
Breakin' Ranh has been through it and has posted a guide here for getting back to stock if you have one of these phones. This process effectively replaces Step 4 from diablo009's post above.

Once on 2.2 can I use Odin to get back to stock 2.1 and flash to my backup ROM?
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[Q] How to back up Captivate?

I'm terribly sorry to ask this, as it probably has been answered previously, but I've looked all over the internet on how to back up my Captivate, with no success. So I dreadfully ask, how do I back up my data so I can upgrade to JI6 afterward?
Thank you.
pilotdude22 said:
I'm terribly sorry to ask this, as it probably has been answered previously, but I've looked all over the internet on how to back up my Captivate, with no success. So I dreadfully ask, how do I back up my data so I can upgrade to JI6 afterward?
Thank you.
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lol...just 5 mins back i was searching for the same thing and i rooted to cognition 2.2beta7........well u must be rooted....u can backup everything by titanum backup(go to backup/restore and there u can backup all/selected stuff)....also download rom manager and then click on flash clockwordmod......
Root your device.
Install ClockworkMod, then go into CWM and download the recovery ROM for your device.
Click back up current ROM.
Be aware, both of you, that CWM is currently unable to extract boot.img so if you upgrade from Eclair to the leaked Froyo, you will need Windows/Odin to restore your device. Make sure you have in your hand Odin AND the correct Captivate factory Eclair image before you attempt to upgrade to the leaked Froyo.
gdanko said:
Root your device.
Install ClockworkMod, then go into CWM and download the recovery ROM for your device.
Click back up current ROM.
Be aware, both of you, that CWM is currently unable to extract boot.img so if you upgrade from Eclair to the leaked Froyo, you will need Windows/Odin to restore your device. Make sure you have in your hand Odin AND the correct Captivate factory Eclair image before you attempt to upgrade to the leaked Froyo.
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oh!!!
well i do have the odin by the name -- I897UCJF6-final-OCD-REV0 -- with me??is this what i should be having???
also since now i am on cog2.2beta7, i tried restoring through titanium but i cant seem to find my backups!!!! also when i mounted the sd card it shows the clockworkmod folder to be of 454mb....it has a backup folder with a few stuff in it.....
so if i have to restore ill have to use odin or cant i just boot into clockword recovery an do a backup???
sorry am still a noob!
neo_31591 said:
oh!!!
well i do have the odin by the name -- I897UCJF6-final-OCD-REV0 -- with me??is this what i should be having???
also since now i am on cog2.2beta7, i tried restoring through titanium but i cant seem to find my backups!!!! also when i mounted the sd card it shows the clockworkmod folder to be of 454mb....it has a backup folder with a few stuff in it.....
so if i have to restore ill have to use odin or cant i just boot into clockword recovery an do a backup???
sorry am still a noob!
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You will need Odin that you have to flash back to stock JF6. If you want to use your backup from Clockwork of your current setup you must be running 2.2 with the 2e kernel. Clockwork backs up your ROM not your kernel.
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Sorry if this is a repeat, im very new to Android and a little confused on backups.
I rooted and then did this after downloading clockwork/rom manager:
How to Install ClockWork Recovery:
1. On the menu there should be an option labeled “FLASH CLOCKWORK RECOVERY.”
Press it.
2. Once a popup says that it has been succesful press “BACKUP CURRENT ROM”
3. Your phone will now restart and backup your ROM
4. If your phone does not start backing up and instead boots into a blue menu use the volume
keys to select reboot now and then press the power button. Try to do all the steps again.
5. Wait for it to finish and then it should restart.
Is this considered a Nandroid backup? Is there anything else I need to do as far as backups or is this the best method?
This will allow me to go back to my stock Rom at any point , is that correct?
Then I should use Titanium Backup for data/apps/settings?

Newb Q's before flashing for the first time

Ok, so I'm thinking about finally flashing a rom because I am tired of waiting on the official update, probably using cog. However there are some things that I want to make sure I understand before I start flashing.
(1) I want to be able to go back to this official jh7 in car something arises. If I am not mistaken, I can do that through clockwork recovery by using "flash clockwork mod". If I'm correct this will create an update.zip file that can be reinstalled by going to phone recovery and reinstalling packages. If so, what all does this back up? Will it be like a stock jh7 with only default apps and settings? Do I need to un root and un-lag fix from what I did through ryanza oclf?
(2) do I need to un root and un lag fix oclf to install a rom.
(3) I'm pretty sure that it will not have my apps/settings from now, to get these I must backup using titanium, and reinstall from titanium on new rom correct?
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Nerz said:
Ok, so I'm thinking about finally flashing a rom because I am tired of waiting on the official update, probably using cog. However there are some things that I want to make sure I understand before I start flashing.
(1) I want to be able to go back to this official jh7 in car something arises. If I am not mistaken, I can do that through clockwork recovery by using "flash clockwork mod". If I'm correct this will create an update.zip file that can be reinstalled by going to phone recovery and reinstalling packages. If so, what all does this back up? Will it be like a stock jh7 with only default apps and settings? Do I need to un root and un-lag fix from what I did through ryanza oclf?
(2) do I need to un root and un lag fix oclf to install a rom.
(3) I'm pretty sure that it will not have my apps/settings from now, to get these I must backup using titanium, and reinstall from titanium on new rom correct?
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Great place to start is with Cognition Roms. Have run several and currently on 2.3b6. It's fast and the Froyo touches make it worth NOT waiting for an official update.
1. Once you are rooted, install Rom manager, and flash Clockwork Recovery. Reboot into Recovery from Rom manager. There are several options in recovery but toggle to backup and restore and then select backup. Doing this will create a nandroid backup of your phone as it exists now. This file will be stored on your phone's external sd and from there I always copy or move mine to my removable sd card. If you ever want to restore reboot into clockwork recovery, toggle to backup and restore, then restore and find the file (would rename it if i were you) then restore.
Another great tool is the Odin 1 click restore. If you get your phone jacked and can't get into recovery this will take you back to stock with no root. Cog recommends flashing back to stock with Odin and then rooting again before flashing another rom so it would be good to learn this method anyway.
2. Can't flash a new rom without being rooted. I would uninstall the lag fix also. There is a lagfix built into the current Cog rom called Voodoo.
3. Backup up apps with Tit backup but when you restore, restore the app only and not the data. I backup my text messages and call log with sms backup which works pretty well and restores easily.
From your current state. Download the latest cog rom 2.3b6 from your phone's browser and rom manager will pick up the download. Go to rom manager when it's downloaded, click download rom, find the zip file, wipe date, wipe cache and watch the magic.
The cognition wiki explains the steps as well.
The water's warm so jump on in.
Roof King said:
3. Backup up apps with Tit backup but when you restore, restore the app only and not the data. I backup my text messages and call log with sms backup which works pretty well and restores easily.
From your current state. Download the latest cog rom 2.3b6 from your phone's browser and rom manager will pick up the download. Go to rom manager when it's downloaded, click download rom, find the zip file, wipe date, wipe cache and watch the magic.
The cognition wiki explains the steps as well.
The water's warm so jump on in.
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Thanks for your help, I'm anxious now. If I want to restore a game amr its save games don't I have to restore data too? And on the wipe data and write cache, by that you mean from clockwork recovery? Thanx again for your help
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I've read it many times in the Cognition forum that restoring data with apps can give you problems. I have done it in the past with no difficulties on some apps and had issues with others. You can try and see what happens. My kids always get upset when I flash a new rom because they have to start Angry Birds from the beginning again. I'm not an expert by any means but you might want to search the cognition thread and get some second opinions.
You can flash a new rom from rom manager and since you are at stock with root is probably the easiest. Go to rom manager, install rom from sd card, you will then be taken to your sd file directory, go to download, then the cog file you want to flash. You will get a prompt to backup existing rom which you can do if you haven't already done your nandroid backup but if you have a backup already then you can leave unchecked. You will also get a prompt to wipe date and cache which you want to do. Rom manager will take it from there. Phone will go into recovery and you will see on the screen what is happening as the file is downloaded and everything currently on the phone is wiped and will reboot.
Note on Tit backup - I would copy your backup file to your external sd. My files, long press tibu, copy, go to external sd, paste. Little extra protection and only restore apps and not system stuff. Apps are always a certain color in tibu.
Ok, so when I try a remove oclf it gives me an error dating I have 312 mb free on rfs, but 662 mb used on ext2, must free up some space.
Do I delete some stuff on /data/data to free up some space?
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Not sure on that one. I had oclf installed once and was able to uninstall pretty easy in Ryan's program. It might not matter if you are wiping data but DG has posted several times about disabling lagfixes. You can always give it a shot and then restore your backup if you have issues.
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I successfully installed cognition and like to say thank you for your help and thanks to thanks to great developers and helpful ppl of this great community.
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Nerz said:
I successfully installed cognition and like to say thank you for your help and thanks to thanks to great developers and helpful ppl of this great community.
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No prob! Welcome to the club

[Q] Restore Stock Rom

Ok, i have read many posts, the one from ODIN and ask people, watched videos, and nothing. Im starting in the rooting process, im currently on Phoenix 2.5, before i flashed this rom i made a backup rom with Clockwork, i decided to restore to stock using clockwork, but it failed on me and i fear that my phone was bricked. I flashed again the phoenix rom, but i want to return to my stock rom, but i dont know why, i just want to flash darkys rom, but i dont know how to restore back to stock, if i use odin by default i have to do the master clear, please help me, i dont want to be stuck on this rom.
hernan078 said:
Ok, i have read many posts, the one from ODIN and ask people, watched videos, and nothing. Im starting in the rooting process, im currently on Phoenix 2.5, before i flashed this rom i made a backup rom with Clockwork, i decided to restore to stock using clockwork, but it failed on me and i fear that my phone was bricked. I flashed again the phoenix rom, but i want to return to my stock rom, but i dont know why, i just want to flash darkys rom, but i dont know how to restore back to stock, if i use odin by default i have to do the master clear, please help me, i dont want to be stuck on this rom.
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#1: Are you disabling Lagfix before flashing? If not, that may be your problem.
#2: Prepare to be flamed for posting in the devs section with a Q&A post.
hernan078 said:
Ok, i have read many posts, the one from ODIN and ask people, watched videos, and nothing. Im starting in the rooting process, im currently on Phoenix 2.5, before i flashed this rom i made a backup rom with Clockwork, i decided to restore to stock using clockwork, but it failed on me and i fear that my phone was bricked. I flashed again the phoenix rom, but i want to return to my stock rom, but i dont know why, i just want to flash darkys rom, but i dont know how to restore back to stock, if i use odin by default i have to do the master clear, please help me, i dont want to be stuck on this rom.
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POST IN THE RIGHT SECTION (I guess I had to do that, right??)
To answer your question - Gr8danes is right, you should be disabling your lagfix to restore your backup first.
Do this by going into your /sdcard/voodoo directory - Create a folder named "disable-lagfix" and reboot your phone. You will hear the robotic voice reconverting your file system - this will take about 3-5 minutes.
Then proceed with flashing your stock backup.
If that fails, you will have to use ODIN One Click to revert back to Eclair 2.1
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POST IN THE RIGHT SECTION (I guess I had to do that, right??)
To answer your question - Gr8danes is right, you should be disabling your lagfix to restore your backup first.
Do this by going into your /sdcard/voodoo directory - Create a folder named "disable-lagfix" and reboot your phone. You will hear the robotic voice reconverting your file system - this will take about 3-5 minutes.
Then proceed with flashing your stock backup.
If that fails, you will have to use ODIN One Click to revert back to Eclair 2.1
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So as long as the file system is restored (voodoo disabled) you CAN nandroid back to stock? Awesome.
thanks a lot, and sorry for posting in the wrong section.
Suppose everything fails, when i decide to use ODIN, do i need to do the master clear?
hernan078 said:
thanks a lot, and sorry for posting in the wrong section.
Suppose everything fails, when i decide to use ODIN, do i need to do the master clear?
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no you do not need to master clear
also, the nandroid doesnt backup the KERNEL or the MODEM so you will likely get a bootloop after trying to restore your stock backup. in order to get back to stock, the best option is ODIN.
im using clockwork, i did the backup with clockwork
hernan078 said:
im using clockwork, i did the backup with clockwork
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yeah, clockwork doesnt backup/restore the stock kernel+modem for you (one of its downfalls on this phone it seems). thats a manual process. the other option is to use the JH7 stock+rooted rom, thats designed for clockwork
But if i disable the lagfix, and do the restore using clockwork, it will fail? I MUST USE ODIN?? If i have to use ODIN, whats the point of doing a backup stock rom?
Pirateghost said:
yeah, clockwork doesnt backup/restore the stock kernel+modem for you (one of its downfalls on this phone it seems). thats a manual process. the other option is to use the JH7 stock+rooted rom, thats designed for clockwork
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Haven't seen that around here, can you link?
Phateless said:
Haven't seen that around here, can you link?
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dont know of any links. i just know in my testing that is what happened.
if you look at a backup done in clockwork, there are the following files created:
cache.img
data.img
datadata.img
nandroid.md5
system.img
if you are flashing from a 2.2 rom to a 2.1 backup, you will get caught in a bootloop because you still have the kernel from 2.2, as cwm doesnt backup the kernel for our phones. if you flash a 2.1 kernel, via clockwork, or odin, your backup will boot up, but you will probably get FC's on a lot of things, because the modem is still a 2.2 modem, and causes instabilities. if you then flash a 2.1 modem, your backup will boot up without any issues. the best way to deal with this is to keep a 2.1 kernel and 2.1 modem CWM flashable zips on your sd card alongside your nandroid backup, flash the modem and kernel, then restore the backup.
Pirateghost said:
dont know of any links. i just know in my testing that is what happened.
if you look at a backup done in clockwork, there are the following files created:
cache.img
data.img
datadata.img
nandroid.md5
system.img
if you are flashing from a 2.2 rom to a 2.1 backup, you will get caught in a bootloop because you still have the kernel from 2.2, as cwm doesnt backup the kernel for our phones. if you flash a 2.1 kernel, via clockwork, or odin, your backup will boot up, but you will probably get FC's on a lot of things, because the modem is still a 2.2 modem, and causes instabilities. if you then flash a 2.1 modem, your backup will boot up without any issues. the best way to deal with this is to keep a 2.1 kernel and 2.1 modem CWM flashable zips on your sd card alongside your nandroid backup, flash the modem and kernel, then restore the backup.
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thats sounds to me like too much work, or things that i didnt do, best option is to use odin then, right?
hernan078 said:
But if i disable the lagfix, and do the restore using clockwork, it will fail? I MUST USE ODIN?? If i have to use ODIN, whats the point of doing a backup stock rom?
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It backs up apps and settings, but it isn't meant for restoring firmware versions.
If you just want to run Darky's then just flash it and skip the whole returning to stock step. It's really not necessary.
opcow said:
It backs up apps and settings, but it isn't meant for restoring firmware versions.
If you just want to run Darky's then just flash it and skip the whole returning to stock step. It's really not necessary.
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i dont need to go back to stock to flash another rom? i can just flash darkys on top of Phoenix?
hernan078 said:
i dont need to go back to stock to flash another rom? i can just flash darkys on top of Phoenix?
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You should use the option in cwm recovery for WIPE DATA/SYSTEM RESTORE before you do, but yes.
hernan078 said:
i dont need to go back to stock to flash another rom? i can just flash darkys on top of Phoenix?
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Yes, u don't have to restore stock first before flashing another rom, but like said above, make sure to do a factory reset in cwm..
As for odin, you don't have to master clear either, you can use either odin one click or download a stock rom from samfirmware.com and use regular odin...
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You should use the option in cwm recovery for WIPE DATA/SYSTEM RESTORE before you do, but yes.
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i didnt understood your instructions, i just see and option that says wipe data/facory reset, what do i do to install darkys rom, while still on phoenix?
hernan078 said:
i didnt understood your instructions, i just see and option that says wipe data/facory reset, what do i do to install darkys rom, while still on phoenix?
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Here are the install instructions from the first post of the Darky's thread:
HOW TO FLASH
Place the ROM on the root of your SD card.
Backup your apps using Titanium Backup.
Open ROM Manager (Downloadable from the market)
Choose "Install ROM from SD card". If after you flash and you have problems like force closes and you can't receive calls, wipe data/cache.
Let the phone sit for 5-10 minutes after booting.
Be happy.
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That's pretty much how I've done it with all the ROMs I've used for the last couple of months, except that I boot to recovery mode to choose the ROM and start the install.
ok, thanks a lot guys, i spent all my thanks for today, but the conclusion is that i can flash darkys rom on top of phoenix, restoring back to stock will be if i want to take it for warranty or something like that right?
hernan078 said:
ok, thanks a lot guys, i spent all my thanks for today, but the conclusion is that i can flash darkys rom on top of phoenix, restoring back to stock will be if i want to take it for warranty or something like that right?
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That's my opinion. The install script formats and deletes everything anyway, so going back to stock is superfluous. Some people disagree, but as per my other post, the Darky's instructions say nothing about flashing stock.
I went a couple of months without going back to stock and in that time I flashed various versions of Cognition, Darky's, di11igaf, Assonance, Perception, Axura, Phoenix, Doc's, Serendipity and probably others I've forgotten. I only flashed stock the other day because I sent my phone back to Samsung to see if I can get one with working GPS.

[Q] ICS on Rooted Captivate (stock 2.3.5)

First off i am kind of a noob and haven't flashed any rom ext.
I have a rooted captivate on stock 2.3.5 and wanted to know how to get ICS.
Any advice on the easiest way to do this or ROMs that you recommend would be great
Thanks
If you have cwm...ask you need to do is, factory reset and format /system in recovery and flash the ROM, when that's done it'll probably boot back into recovery (which will probably look different because its the ics kernel recovery) and flash the Rom once more, and you're done.
Thanks, but what is cwm and how do I get the ics rom on my phone
Also how do I back up the phone so I don't lose all of my data?
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Cwm= clockwork mod recovery.
How did you root, a custom kernel swap? If so that's got cwm.
you can transfer the ROM via usb...or download it directly to your phone.
backup your contacts to your gmail and/or Sim card (i do both)
Download and run titanium backup to backup your apps.
Cdevine8 said:
Thanks, but what is cwm and how do I get the ics rom on my phone
Also how do I back up the phone so I don't lose all of my data?
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First, back everything up like studa recommended. If you are not on a custom kernel, download the speedmod kernel and odin in my attachments. Then download an ICS rom that you like. Put the rom on your phone. Open Odin on your computer, and select the speedmod kernel in the PDA section. Put your phone into download mode and flash the kernel. After the flash is done and your phone reboots, remove your battery to turn off your phone. Reboot into recovery and navigate to install zip/install custom zip and navigate to your chosen rom. After it installs, install it again from the new ICS recovery screen (it's probably different colored). Then, reboot your device and wait a few minutes for your rom to start. Afterwards, the apps, contacts, etc. can be restored.

[Q] Need to do a Nandroid Restore, what do I need to do?

I need to a Nandroid Restore on my phone. It's currently running CM9RC2 with Semaphore ICS 1.3 and CWM6. The backup was taken from a Gingerbread 2.3.6 stock ROM (although I can't remember which exactly) with Semaphore 2.7.4 and CWM5
So what do I need to do to successfully restore without messing anything up? Do I need to reflash back to stock ROM, or can I just run the restore as it is and it'll put everything back to how it was?
bigdave196 said:
Do I need to reflash back to stock ROM, or can I just run the restore as it is and it'll put everything back to how it was?
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look in My Guides and Manuals about nandroid
You can't use different CWM to restore your nand I would suggest Odin back to stock re-root and make sure you add the same CWM recovery so you can update to 2.3.6 then after boot go back in recovery wipe and all the usual and then restore your back up
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Hurray, managed to sort everything out and my phone is back to exactly how it was before I installed CM9.
Thanks for the help guys

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