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[Q] Uanble to Nandroid Backup

Hey guys...noob question here. Yesterday I rooted my wife's Hero and it was successful as far as I could tell. I proceeded to do a Nandroid backup via ROM Manager, but at the end of the backup it said something to the effect of "no sd-ext" or something like that.
Any thoughts?
Thanks!

You may need to format your SD card....be sure to back up your files on your computer, so you can put them back on there after....
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Find out how to put ur phone into recovery via Google then nandroid backup from there. ROM manager is kinda funny acting so try that.
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Vandelay007 said:
You may need to format your SD card....be sure to back up your files on your computer, so you can put them back on there after....
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Well, not sure if it matters, but her card already has stuff on it so I'm assuming it's working correctly. Am I supposed to do something to the card prior to backing it up? Do I need to be in some sort of "mode" or check some box in an application? Sorry...still new to this phone.

r0cky0790 said:
Find out how to put ur phone into recovery via Google then nandroid backup from there. ROM manager is kinda funny acting so try that.
r0cky.Da.3v0.SU
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Thanks for the reply! I've already tried that method as well and I get the same result.

am not sure. but i'd the same msg and when i googled some one answered that "because you do not have any app on the sd card to back up". well makes sense as before root all the apps were installed on the phone memory and not the sd card. Also after back up and restart when i go to the rom manager -> under back up and restore i am able to see the back that i created even with no sd-ext msg...
am not 100% sure but i think it did back up.. still enlighten me..

[Q] Help with Nandroid...what is it?

OK, I think I understand nandroid on a basic level. It backs stuff up. Everything. But I'm confused as to how it works. I have CM 6.1 RC1 on my phone right now. I want to try a Sense based ROM but don't want to lose everything. Especially my apps. If I do a nandroid backup before I install the new ROM will the data be compatible with the new ROM? Will the apps work with all their settings intact? Seems to me a different ROM would have weird little things that are incompatible. Seems to me nandroid is more of a way to revert to your previous ROM in case the new one doesn't work out. Does that sound right?

As I understand it, a nandroid back-up is basically a photo copy of your current rom, apps and settings. If you're using ROM manager go into that and choose the "Back up current ROM" choice and it'll back it up and save it to the SD card. If you install a new ROM you'll do a wipe and everything will be gone and then installed with the new ROM. To get it back to the way it was your have your back-up rom saved on the SD card and you can flash that to get it back to the way it was. Does anyone want to double check me on this since I could be wrong?

benutne said:
Seems to me nandroid is more of a way to revert to your previous ROM in case the new one doesn't work out. Does that sound right?
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That's exactly right. It's a flashable backup of a full ROM. If you want to only backup apps, use titanium backup.
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TheEscapist said:
That's exactly right. It's a flashable backup of a full ROM. If you want to only backup apps, use titanium backup.
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Flashable? So I don't have to install the old ROM first then do the nondroid restore?

benutne said:
Flashable? So I don't have to install the old ROM first then do the nondroid restore?
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A nandroid restore is done through recovery, not the ROM. So you could have a Sense based ROM and nandroid (assuming you have made one and it's on your SD card) to a CM ROM
What you should do is install a ROM, set it up how you like/want it then nandroid right away. You can do that with a few ROMS, test them out, choose your favorite and go with it, always keeping the option to go back to any of them

is it only done through rom manager, or can i get a nandroid backup in cwm recovery?

naranova7 said:
is it only done through rom manager, or can i get a nandroid backup in cwm recovery?
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You can backup in recovery. I never use ROM manager anyway.
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i second that duce rom manager is pretty bad now adays the only thing its good for is installing recovery and fixing permissons but thats about it.

Bierce22 said:
i second that duce rom manager is pretty bad now adays the only thing its good for is installing recovery and fixing permissons but thats about it.
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$su
#flash_image recovery /sdcard/nameofrecovery.img
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$su
#fix_permissions
.....
ROM manager entirely unnecessary

Saving a ROM's backup to my computer

I want to clear my phone completely back to bare-bones 2.1. I do want to save my last good set up with froyo, so;
1) Is it a good idea to do a complete restore.
2) Is it better to leave the phone as is (leaving b/u in tact) or can I save the last b/u to my computer? If so how (Tibu, ROM Man???). How would I return this file back to the phone if necessary?

I never do any more backing up than Titanium Backup of apps. I know clockwork recovery can make a nandroid backup. It saves it to a folder on the internal sd card (Clockworkmod I think) and you could copy that to your computer. Then copy it back if you want to restore. The feature is there, I assume it works, but I have never personally done it. You could do all this through clockwork recovery, make the back up, and restore later if you want. You can leave the backup on your phone after you go back to stock, odin will not clear it off unless you do a "Master Clear". Then you would just have to reflash clockwork recovery, and you could restore.

I've transferred both tibu and nandroid (rom manager) backups to my pc and then restored from them after a master clear by copying them back to the phone from the pc. With the nandroid backup, you have to reinstall the rom first, and it must be the same rom you backed up.
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Good advice thanks:
quarlow said:
I never do any more backing up than Titanium Backup of apps. I know clockwork recovery can make a nandroid backup. It saves it to a folder on the internal sd card (Clockworkmod I think) and you could copy that to your computer. Then copy it back if you want to restore. The feature is there, I assume it works, but I have never personally done it. You could do all this through clockwork recovery, make the back up, and restore later if you want. You can leave the backup on your phone after you go back to stock, odin will not clear it off unless you do a "Master Clear". Then you would just have to reflash clockwork recovery, and you could restore.
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creepyncrawly said:
I've transferred both tibu and nandroid (rom manager) backups to my pc and then restored from them after a master clear by copying them back to the phone from the pc. With the nandroid backup, you have to reinstall the rom first, and it must be the same rom you backed up
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I was thinking this was the case. My only concern is on the re-install, would I be correct in my asumption, that not only would I need the rom installed but the theme as well?

tomween1 said:
Good advice thanks:...would I be correct in the thought that not only would I need the rom installed but the theme as well?
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Disclaimer: I've not tried it. A nandroid backup restores everything in the rom plus apps, but not the kernel, so it should restore your theme and your apps. In that case you may not even need the tibu.
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creepyncrawly said:
Disclaimer: I've not tried it. A nandroid backup restores everything in the rom plus apps, but not the kernel, so it should restore your theme and your apps. In that case you may not even need the tibu.
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Well it's done, we'll see how it goes when I need it

I think the trick is having a working base rom and it being the same as the backup. Id be curious to try restoring a previous version of the same rom. How bad could it get?
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Want to know about backing up roms and restoring them
I want to know wheter we can backup a rom of one mobile and restore it in other mobile. please answer asap.

Abhishek1008 said:
I want to know wheter we can backup a rom of one mobile and restore it in other mobile. please answer asap.
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That may not be a simple question to answer with any certainty. I would not even consider attempting it unless both phone models are exactly the same, you didn't say for sure that this is what you were meaning. If the models are the same: insure they have the same bootloader and modem installed. Then I still would not do it unless the ROM on the second phone is comparable to the ROM you are moving to it. The reason for this caution is that partitioning schemes are not the same on all ROMs, it can even change in a newer version of the same ROM.

dawgdoc said:
That may not be a simple question to answer with any certainty. I would not even consider attempting it unless both phone models are exactly the same, you didn't say for sure that this is what you were meaning. If the models are the same: insure they have the same bootloader and modem installed. Then I still would not do it unless the ROM on the second phone is comparable to the ROM you are moving to it. The reason for this caution is that partitioning schemes are not the same on all ROMs, it can even change in a newer version of the same ROM.
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This :good:

Random factory reset

My Nook HD just randomly reset. Yep, I turned it off to reset it and, when it came back on, it reset back to factory settings. I then had to go through the set up process all over and it seems I have lost my root. HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? I have a TiBu backup, but, alas, no recent nandroid. Guess I'm going back to square one.

natefish said:
My Nook HD just randomly reset. Yep, I turned it off to reset it and, when it came back on, it reset back to factory settings. I then had to go through the set up process all over and it seems I have lost my root. HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? I have a TiBu backup, but, alas, no recent nandroid. Guess I'm going back to square one.
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It must have been a full reset since an update would not require a re-register. Were your media files lost too?
Probably one of your installed apps, like adaway, wrote something to /system. If you see it starting to recycle on boot, quickly turn it completely off before it goes through 8 times so you can get your card CWM card in.
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leapinlar said:
It must have been a full reset since an update would not require a re-register. Were your media files lost too?
Probably one of your installed apps, like adaway, wrote something to /system. If you see it starting to recycle on boot, quickly turn it completely off before it goes through 8 times so you can get your card CWM card in.
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All of my media is on my external card, so that was safe. It was an annoying setback, but I'm good now thanks to Titanium Backup and your great thread.
Can I do a nandroid If I just have root installed? I know I did one before--does it require the CWM boot card?

natefish said:
All of my media is on my external card, so that was safe. It was an annoying setback, but I'm good now thanks to Titanium Backup and your great thread.
Can I do a nandroid If I just have root installed? I know I did one before--does it require the CWM boot card?
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No, you need the CWM boot card. That is what makes the backup.
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natefish said:
All of my media is on my external card, so that was safe. It was an annoying setback, but I'm good now thanks to Titanium Backup and your great thread.
Can I do a nandroid If I just have root installed? I know I did one before--does it require the CWM boot card?
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If you have root, then you have the CWM card. Unless you formatted right after flashing the root zip.

How can I EASILY switch between two roms (Dual Boot)

Please let me know how I can easily switch between 4.4.4 FireKat and CM12 - I havnt found anything on this forum yet...
Thanks!

ccheww said:
Please let me know how I can easily switch between 4.4.4 FireKat and CM12 - I havnt found anything on this forum yet...
Thanks!
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make nandroids of both, and switch between them when you want to; wont take more than 10 minutes total

wase4711 said:
make nandroids of both, and switch between them when you want to; wont take more than 10 minutes total
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Pardon my stupidity but can I make nandroids through TWRP? how do i do that.

ccheww said:
Pardon my stupidity but can I make nandroids through TWRP? how do i do that.
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Yes a nandroid is basically just another name for a backup made through recovery. Just boot into recovery (in your case, TWRP) and then make s backup or restore one there.

You need custom kernel to do
This dual boot
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You can have two backups but when you restore either, the data will not be the same for apps on both ROMS.
Make sense?

If i had the same exact apps on each rom would the data be the same? Or would it be different considering im trying to switch between an AOSP Lollipop rom and KitKat (FireKat).
I tried the nandroid backup, but its not quiet what I wanted. I want to be able to almost switch between roms with a soft reboot. Or a simple selection from a reboot menu.
Is there a way for me to have one rom run from the SD card, and one rom run from my internal mem?

Wouldn't you have to backup and restore settings, apps, etc, as you switch between two ROMs? What if you move apps to an SD card prior to switching ROMs?

arjun90 said:
Wouldn't you have to backup and restore settings, apps, etc, as you switch between two ROMs? What if you move apps to an SD card prior to switching ROMs?
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I'm not fully sure how android is compiled in my phone but I feel I would be able to dual boot in the same form as a computer. Using a partitioned SD card or having one on internal and one on SD card
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