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[Q] Help with Nandroid...what is it?

OK, I think I understand nandroid on a basic level. It backs stuff up. Everything. But I'm confused as to how it works. I have CM 6.1 RC1 on my phone right now. I want to try a Sense based ROM but don't want to lose everything. Especially my apps. If I do a nandroid backup before I install the new ROM will the data be compatible with the new ROM? Will the apps work with all their settings intact? Seems to me a different ROM would have weird little things that are incompatible. Seems to me nandroid is more of a way to revert to your previous ROM in case the new one doesn't work out. Does that sound right?

As I understand it, a nandroid back-up is basically a photo copy of your current rom, apps and settings. If you're using ROM manager go into that and choose the "Back up current ROM" choice and it'll back it up and save it to the SD card. If you install a new ROM you'll do a wipe and everything will be gone and then installed with the new ROM. To get it back to the way it was your have your back-up rom saved on the SD card and you can flash that to get it back to the way it was. Does anyone want to double check me on this since I could be wrong?

benutne said:
Seems to me nandroid is more of a way to revert to your previous ROM in case the new one doesn't work out. Does that sound right?
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That's exactly right. It's a flashable backup of a full ROM. If you want to only backup apps, use titanium backup.
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TheEscapist said:
That's exactly right. It's a flashable backup of a full ROM. If you want to only backup apps, use titanium backup.
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Flashable? So I don't have to install the old ROM first then do the nondroid restore?

benutne said:
Flashable? So I don't have to install the old ROM first then do the nondroid restore?
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A nandroid restore is done through recovery, not the ROM. So you could have a Sense based ROM and nandroid (assuming you have made one and it's on your SD card) to a CM ROM
What you should do is install a ROM, set it up how you like/want it then nandroid right away. You can do that with a few ROMS, test them out, choose your favorite and go with it, always keeping the option to go back to any of them

is it only done through rom manager, or can i get a nandroid backup in cwm recovery?

naranova7 said:
is it only done through rom manager, or can i get a nandroid backup in cwm recovery?
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You can backup in recovery. I never use ROM manager anyway.
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i second that duce rom manager is pretty bad now adays the only thing its good for is installing recovery and fixing permissons but thats about it.

Bierce22 said:
i second that duce rom manager is pretty bad now adays the only thing its good for is installing recovery and fixing permissons but thats about it.
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$su
#flash_image recovery /sdcard/nameofrecovery.img
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$su
#fix_permissions
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ROM manager entirely unnecessary

Nandroid back up?

Is this stuff possible yet?
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Not until we have recovery, which we don't yet.

Does the Nook Color even have a normal hardware config where we would be able to flash a new ROM/Recovery into it?

jackjumper85 said:
Does the Nook Color even have a normal hardware config where we would be able to flash a new ROM/Recovery into it?
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Not yet, but it is in the works. Check out this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883175

My NC has sound issues which I believe will require a replacement. I would like to backup a ROM image and restore it on the new NC. How can I make this happen?

30secs said:
My NC has sound issues which I believe will require a replacement. I would like to backup a ROM image and restore it on the new NC. How can I make this happen?
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You can't back up a ROM yet (even if you could, restoring a nandroid backup on a different device probably isn't going to work).
Your best better is probably backing up your data onto your SD card with Titanium Backup then restoring that on your new one.

wvcachi said:
You can't back up a ROM yet (even if you could, restoring a nandroid backup on a different device probably isn't going too work).
Your best better is probably backing up your data onto your SD card with Titanium Backup then restoring that on your new one.
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Do you mean do a backup of all the apps? when i root the new NC, what will i need to manually install/config?

30secs said:
Do you mean do a backup of all the apps? when i root the new NC, what will i need to manually install/config?
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Just install Titanium again, and as long as the same SD card is in, you can restore all your apps with it

wvcachi said:
Just install Titanium again, and as long as the same SD card is in, you can restore all your apps with it
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do i need to back up all the apps? including ones i haven't installed? what about system configurations i've done?

30secs said:
do i need to back up all the apps? including ones i haven't installed? what about system configurations i've done?
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How would you back up apps you haven't installed?

Koush is currently working on a port of Clockwork Recovery, IIRC.

Saving a ROM's backup to my computer

I want to clear my phone completely back to bare-bones 2.1. I do want to save my last good set up with froyo, so;
1) Is it a good idea to do a complete restore.
2) Is it better to leave the phone as is (leaving b/u in tact) or can I save the last b/u to my computer? If so how (Tibu, ROM Man???). How would I return this file back to the phone if necessary?

I never do any more backing up than Titanium Backup of apps. I know clockwork recovery can make a nandroid backup. It saves it to a folder on the internal sd card (Clockworkmod I think) and you could copy that to your computer. Then copy it back if you want to restore. The feature is there, I assume it works, but I have never personally done it. You could do all this through clockwork recovery, make the back up, and restore later if you want. You can leave the backup on your phone after you go back to stock, odin will not clear it off unless you do a "Master Clear". Then you would just have to reflash clockwork recovery, and you could restore.

I've transferred both tibu and nandroid (rom manager) backups to my pc and then restored from them after a master clear by copying them back to the phone from the pc. With the nandroid backup, you have to reinstall the rom first, and it must be the same rom you backed up.
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Good advice thanks:
quarlow said:
I never do any more backing up than Titanium Backup of apps. I know clockwork recovery can make a nandroid backup. It saves it to a folder on the internal sd card (Clockworkmod I think) and you could copy that to your computer. Then copy it back if you want to restore. The feature is there, I assume it works, but I have never personally done it. You could do all this through clockwork recovery, make the back up, and restore later if you want. You can leave the backup on your phone after you go back to stock, odin will not clear it off unless you do a "Master Clear". Then you would just have to reflash clockwork recovery, and you could restore.
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creepyncrawly said:
I've transferred both tibu and nandroid (rom manager) backups to my pc and then restored from them after a master clear by copying them back to the phone from the pc. With the nandroid backup, you have to reinstall the rom first, and it must be the same rom you backed up
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I was thinking this was the case. My only concern is on the re-install, would I be correct in my asumption, that not only would I need the rom installed but the theme as well?

tomween1 said:
Good advice thanks:...would I be correct in the thought that not only would I need the rom installed but the theme as well?
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Disclaimer: I've not tried it. A nandroid backup restores everything in the rom plus apps, but not the kernel, so it should restore your theme and your apps. In that case you may not even need the tibu.
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creepyncrawly said:
Disclaimer: I've not tried it. A nandroid backup restores everything in the rom plus apps, but not the kernel, so it should restore your theme and your apps. In that case you may not even need the tibu.
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Well it's done, we'll see how it goes when I need it

I think the trick is having a working base rom and it being the same as the backup. Id be curious to try restoring a previous version of the same rom. How bad could it get?
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Want to know about backing up roms and restoring them
I want to know wheter we can backup a rom of one mobile and restore it in other mobile. please answer asap.

Abhishek1008 said:
I want to know wheter we can backup a rom of one mobile and restore it in other mobile. please answer asap.
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That may not be a simple question to answer with any certainty. I would not even consider attempting it unless both phone models are exactly the same, you didn't say for sure that this is what you were meaning. If the models are the same: insure they have the same bootloader and modem installed. Then I still would not do it unless the ROM on the second phone is comparable to the ROM you are moving to it. The reason for this caution is that partitioning schemes are not the same on all ROMs, it can even change in a newer version of the same ROM.

dawgdoc said:
That may not be a simple question to answer with any certainty. I would not even consider attempting it unless both phone models are exactly the same, you didn't say for sure that this is what you were meaning. If the models are the same: insure they have the same bootloader and modem installed. Then I still would not do it unless the ROM on the second phone is comparable to the ROM you are moving to it. The reason for this caution is that partitioning schemes are not the same on all ROMs, it can even change in a newer version of the same ROM.
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This :good:

Nandroid backup to external sd?

I just bought my self a new 16gb sd card. I was wondering if there was a way to make cwm backup my nandroid to my external sd card as opposed to my internel one?
Thanks

thekalby said:
I just bought my self a new 16gb sd card. I was wondering if there was a way to make cwm backup my nandroid to my external sd card as opposed to my internel one?
Thanks
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if you are using the newest recovery by thecubed, then it already does...

Pirateghost said:
if you are using the newest recovery by thecubed, then it already does...
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Can I just install this over the current version of cwm Im using? Will it effect my current rom?

The new recovery from thecubed (5.5.0.4) let's you pick between internal and external(default). If you're using another recovery for some reason then just use a file explorer app to cut and paste from one location to the other.
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dusty2422 said:
The new recovery from thecubed (5.5.0.4) let's you pick between internal and external(default). If you're using another recovery for some reason then just use a file explorer app to cut and paste from one location to the other.
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I am using an older version of CWM. All I want to know is can I just install the new version over my old version without returning to stock or loosing current rom.

thekalby said:
I am using an older version of CWM. All I want to know is can I just install the new version over my old version without returning to stock or loosing current rom.
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have you read the recovery thread?
does it specifically say you have to return to stock?
recovery has nothing to do with the rom, so no, you wont lose it

Pirateghost said:
have you read the recovery thread?
does it specifically say you have to return to stock?
recovery has nothing to do with the rom, so no, you wont lose it
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I did read it...it didnt say I needed to but the instructions were talking about installing it right after you unlocked the boot loader, so I was making sure I didnt have to go back and start the whole process again.
Thanks for making it clear!

Titanium back up question....Storage!!

hey
ive been told when using titaium to backup all apps and system data but when it comes to restoring it all, that it should be installed as apps and data only,is that corrent?
Okay i have a external sd card which is only like 3gb, now when you flash roms etc and have to restore stuff back, what exactly is Titanium backing up? is it backing every single thing except the sd card? will all my data within apps remain when i restore? so all my photos, icons, bookmarks etc etc
iam so confused as the app does not specify things in catogories.
cheers.

islandmixed said:
hey
ive been told when using titaium to backup all apps and system data but when it comes to restoring it all, that it should be installed as apps and data only,is that corrent?
Okay i have a external sd card which is only like 3gb, now when you flash roms etc and have to restore stuff back, what exactly is Titanium backing up? is it backing every single thing except the sd card? will all my data within apps remain when i restore? so all my photos, icons, bookmarks etc etc
iam so confused as the app does not specify things in catogories.
cheers.
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It backups your application and data(passwords or data entered in application) just like you had it before flash another rom. It will not backup ur photos, songs, icons but it will backup the bookmarks.
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Okayyyyy so is it best to move my music and icons and all that stuff to the external SD card cause that's not touched when you flash a Rom and stuff right??
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islandmixed said:
Okayyyyy so is it best to move my music and icons and all that stuff to the external SD card cause that's not touched when you flash a Rom and stuff right??
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You are Right. This will not erase your stuff on SD Card

islandmixed said:
Okayyyyy so is it best to move my music and icons and all that stuff to the external SD card cause that's not touched when you flash a Rom and stuff right??
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Even it remains untouched on internal SD card, it won't erase during wiping cache, wiping data (except you specifically select to format USB storage), Flashing.

dr.ketan said:
Even it remains untouched on internal SD card, it won't erase during wiping cache, wiping data (except you specifically select to format USB storage), Flashing.
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Thanks Mr ketan that's all i wanted to find out lol I could only imagine how annoying it would be to keep moving everything to ex SD card.

islandmixed said:
Thanks Mr ketan that's all i wanted to find out lol I could only imagine how annoying it would be to keep moving everything to ex SD card.
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TB can even backup your contacts/call history, data usage and many others too, all you have to do is to backup particular app and while restoring, just restore "data only". I have tried it for same ROM version, not sure if it will work inter ROM as well

jeetu1981 said:
TB can even backup your contacts/call history, data usage and many others too, all you have to do is to backup particular app and while restoring, just restore "data only". I have tried it for same ROM version, not sure if it will work inter ROM as well
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hey jeetu! lol
you now ive still not flashed rom cause each time i see insructions, someone says somethin different lol. although you guys in this thread have always helped me.
ive had a go with gobackup pro and it really does everything, like contacts and bookmarks, your pictures, music, whatever you select it will back up. now that ive learned that my internal sd and ex sd will not be touched, iam not so paronoid about leaving everything in my internal sd as ive got over 10gb of space their. i just thought once ive backed up, ill have to move everything to ex sd due to me doing wipes and flashing roms, it would all be removed LOL.
BUT i do have a question, when i go into settings and click into storage, under internal storage it says ive got over 649mb of apps installed, now under internal sd it says 423mb. NOW is the apps installed under internal just all the system apps that come with the rom? and is this what will be removed when i do the full wipe etc?

islandmixed said:
hey jeetu! lol
you now ive still not flashed rom cause each time i see insructions, someone says somethin different lol. although you guys in this thread have always helped me.
ive had a go with gobackup pro and it really does everything, like contacts and bookmarks, your pictures, music, whatever you select it will back up. now that ive learned that my internal sd and ex sd will not be touched, iam not so paronoid about leaving everything in my internal sd as ive got over 10gb of space their. i just thought once ive backed up, ill have to move everything to ex sd due to me doing wipes and flashing roms, it would all be removed LOL.
BUT i do have a question, when i go into settings and click into storage, under internal storage it says ive got over 649mb of apps installed, now under internal sd it says 423mb. NOW is the apps installed under internal just all the system apps that come with the rom? and is this what will be removed when i do the full wipe etc?
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Hey!!
One is system ROM it should be around 900 MB in total and almost consumed unless you remove some apps from system, this space is used by system apps included in the ROM and will stay even if you wipe the device. (you cannot see this in settings, use TB for it)
The one you are talking about is Internal storage (aroung 2 GB) and is used for apps you download from play store or from SD card. These apps will be removed with wipe.

Okayyyy I think I get it now lol...but both the SD storages will stay? They better lol
R u still on stock rom and if so why are you not flashing roms? Always wondered
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islandmixed said:
Okayyyy I think I get it now lol...but both the SD storages will stay? They better lol
R u still on stock rom and if so why are you not flashing roms? Always wondered
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Yes, SD cards will not be wiped with flashing unless you choose to wipe/format SD cards as Dr.Ketan said. I change ROMS very frequently, tried almost all available custom roms for Note in first 5-10 days . As of now I am using modified version of stock ROM. I have replaced lots of stock apps with modified ones (thanks to the Devs), so no need of custom ROM, but planning to try CM10 soon.

Ha ha ha, i am doing this since long, just difference is never tried custom ROM still.
And that is real our custom ROM.
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dr.ketan said:
Ha ha ha,
And that is real our custom ROM.
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Indeed , I started doing this when I was using htc HD2 and there was no new ROM left for me to try, lol

So what are the best Rome to try??? Rocketrom v10 seems good and that criskelo one but will I loose all system apps? Also can I use netcore v13 with both Roms if I choose to try both of them...or do I need abyess kernal?
I don't like the look of the stock launcher icons in TW so I guess ill have to change launchers unless I can find a rom where I can change my icons and stuff
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islandmixed said:
So what are the best Rome to try??? Rocketrom v10 seems good and that criskelo one but will I loose all system apps? Also can I use netcore v13 with both Roms if I choose to try both of them...or do I need abyess kernal?
I don't like the look of the stock launcher icons in TW so I guess ill have to change launchers unless I can find a rom where I can change my icons and stuff
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Both of these Roms are good and include almost all stock apps, you can use Notecore with them, no need to flash Abyss kernel. You can use Go launcher EX if you don't like the icons as these roms are also TW based and will have same icons .
Try CM based roms if you want to try something new.

CM roms OK I will look for v9 since 10 is not out yet. So netcore I can use with also but I must perform full wipe etc...reading all this info just makes my brain go crazy lol your truly helpful
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islandmixed said:
CM roms OK I will look for v9 since 10 is not out yet. So netcore I can use with also but I must perform full wipe etc...reading all this info just makes my brain go crazy lol your truly helpful
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CM10 is out but not stable yet, u can use notecore to wipe and then flash cm9 but do not flash it once you are on cm. Cm uses different kernels and will come with its own.
But better you read rom threads for flashing instructions, either with Notecore or abyss gb.
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Lol I've had a gud look but I really don't see any I like so maybe I should just stick with root but I have to say this speedmod kernal with ics stock is much smoother and faster. Would the netcore kernal on my stock rom make it even faster? I've heard gud reviews about it
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islandmixed said:
Lol I've had a gud look but I really don't see any I like so maybe I should just stick with root but I have to say this speedmod kernal with ics stock is much smoother and faster. Would the netcore kernal on my stock rom make it even faster? I've heard gud reviews about it
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No clue, m on stock kernel, used custom kernel just to root, flashed stock after 5-10 mins.
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islandmixed said:
Lol I've had a gud look but I really don't see any I like so maybe I should just stick with root but I have to say this speedmod kernal with ics stock is much smoother and faster. Would the netcore kernal on my stock rom make it even faster? I've heard gud reviews about it
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Cleanote v5 + notecore std kernel.
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