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Hello all-
I just got in my Diamond today and after working on it about an hour, I still can only get Edge (and very small reception and SSLLOOWW data). I currently have a tilt with a flashed ROM running 6.1 and got perfect 3G reception from it here at my desk. I use At&t here. Could the lack of the 850 band be my issue. Please give me some clues or point me to a tutorial to get everything set up to par for my Diamond. I've already searched this whole forum.
Thanks a lot!
Oh dear here we go again....if you had done a search you would have saved yourself so much hassle.
The Diamond you have wont support 3G on AT&T because its missing a £G attenna...even though your settings will show that it can support the band for AT&T 3G but in reality you CANNOT get 3G access with the Diamonds that are out at the moment.
Only way your going to be able to get 3G in America is by waiting for the proper American version of the phone...as to when its out...could be july/August.
Well...Thats the bad part of me that gets way too excited. I'm going to try to return it. I'm sure my fiance that im marrying in 3 weeks will love to hear the news of my lack of research. Thanks!
LOL its ok...its just been explained a few times on here that the Diamonds that are on the market arent really suitable for the American 3G market...your just gonna have to wait a bit for the American version.
For what i's worth - thanks for your time with a stupid question.
bzowk said:
For what i's worth - thanks for your time with a stupid question.
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No problems buddy, its ok...thats what we are here for...to help each other out.
Apologies if i was a bit abrupt in my first post...been a long day
no 3g
for what it is worth, i have the same issue with no 3g but i have edge and so far find it fine for what i need it for. For others, the added speed that you get may be worth it. I love my Diamond otherwise, despite the battery. I will however get the usa version when it comes out, mainly for reception purposes since i feel the lack of 850 band lessens the reception a little... But so far I love it. Btw i have the ME rom which is fast and smooth and have no issues so far other than i cant hide the SIM contacts even with the tweak.
hi, that is the question.
Would you buy the DIAMOND again if you know you can't use the data transfer under the 3G technology??? is it worth the us$500 or eur450????
I dont really care about 3g when wifi is so readily available.
3g doesn't add any functionality to anything. its really nothing! ok, i waited 10 more seconds for some web page to load, but who cares! wifi is all over the place anyway. its way cooler stealing wifi then giving cell companys business! at the same time ill never buy a phone thats not 3g lol
for me 3G is essential as I use my Diamond extensively on Telstra's 850Mhz 3G network, and I can get far better coverage in regional parts of Australia. 3G is also essential for me as I use my Diamond as an external modem connected to my laptop. I could not imagine trying to use the internet at dialup speeds!! (or not at all due to lack of coverage)
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3g doesn't add any functionality to anything. its really nothing! ok, i waited 10 more seconds for some web page to load, but who cares! wifi is all over the place anyway. its way cooler stealing wifi then giving cell companys business! at the same time ill never buy a phone thats not 3g lol
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3G is a masssive bonus, especially when dealing with moving large files or for video calls. web pages are not so important.
As for stealing WIFI i think there is a strong moral question about doing that, especially as there are still people who are charge by the amount of data they use. Would you pick their pockets?
Thankfully most of the wifi spots i see people are wise enough to use WPA encryption. But still some people are relying on nothing or just WEP
in france we are massively under H (or a 3.5g or 3g+) so we don't care about 3g it's only when we goes to foreign country... but funny things there is a lack of wifi spot here
I'd buy it (again - my Touch Pro that is) in a second.
We do have quite spread UMTS and not bad HSPA and even some hot spots, but all these are just things "outside" the device; and the device rulez.
3g great...but
must turn off where overseas
don't want a big bill waiting for when i get home
I don't much care for the 3G, it's a nice bonus but it's not the reason I bought the Diamond.
The Diamond is the perfect phone for me (especially after I found this place and was able to upgrade the software tremendously) and I would certainly buy it again.
My biggest complaint in that the screen is so easily scratched. I hate using screen protectors and never really had a problem with scratches on my previous touch screen (Treo 700wx) like I do now. But minor issues as far as I'm concerned. I definitley don't have a problem with the battery as many others do, as I've become quite accustomed to carrying spare batteries since I use my devices quite a bit.
Good phone, even better tech support (here). How can you go wrong?
3G is a must!!! Still waiting over here in the U.S.
hi
3g isn't a a must, if you want to brows the internet get a computer, but for some people who work out in the field and needs Internet service then sure 3G is fun, but other wise than browsing the Internet you don't really need it, but for someone who is one of those emo Internet people myspace youtube what not, that its for u.
The answer depends on where you live as well as what you use your phone for.
In UK (and most of Western Europe) we have very good 3G and even 3.5G networks that can give us mobile broadband at very good speeds - not up to best wired speeds but getting close. You can really notice the difference between that and slow old GPRS when downloading emails or surfing the real web (rather than just WAP).
On the other hand in the UK free wifi spots are few and far between - most require some sort of payment or subscription - Holiday Inn hotels for example want £15 per day, and Hilton are £10! And most private companies (and households like mine) that use wifi lock their access so you can't park outside and piggy back.
Because there has been so much investment in these new technologies they are being pushed hard by the phone companies and many contracts for phones now come with "free" bundled data access. My HTC comes with "unlimited" downloads (sunbject as always to a fair use policy that I have never got near).
I understand that in other parts of the world including the US the roll out of this sort of technology is less advanced, and so the arguments for having 3G are less convincing at the moment.
I would not have bought the Diamond without 3G. 3G(Hdspa) is an absolutley must!
/How do I change my country settings? I've changed it...
3g is the s**t lol
i gotta say once you use 3G (HSDPA) you will never go back, most if the time i don't even bother connecting to WIFI coz there is honestly hardly any speed difference if you have good reception (and i have unlimited data plan).
Luckily i live the the UK and with orange we have decent coverage and the speed is increasing over the next year of so
COLOMBIA
HI, i live in BOGOTA/COLOMBIA/SOUTH AMERICA
and here the mobile carrier use 850 band (3g) so that is why i am wondering if the diamond's worth the money if I can't use all the stuff on it, like the 3G speed...
Well I bought my Diamond (european version) not knowing that 3G wouldn't work in the US. Despite that, It was going in for some repairs at HTC America with Canada post and somehow, the phone got "lost" (yeah right).
So now, I'm getting back my insurance money and I will most probably buy another Diamond not taking into consideration weather 3G works or not.
Mrok said:
HI, i live in BOGOTA/COLOMBIA/SOUTH AMERICA
and here the mobile carrier use 850 band (3g) so that is why i am wondering if the diamond's worth the money if I can't use all the stuff on it, like the 3G speed...
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purchase a Telstra DIAM130 one from Australia and it will have 850Mhz 3G
3g or 2g
I'm in the camp of MUST have 3g, in AU with telstra and all prior htc phones have had 3g BUT I went and grabbed a Diamond 100 a while back BEFORE we all really knew about the different models being hardware (bands) different so long story short I've got 2g only and it sucks big time.
Reception outside of metro very average, data s l o w ..no video callls and
I live in the country area, even chucked my sim card into my wifes old motorola v3xx., Yea pink as well........
I am using the Diamond as I like the phone/features
I'm looking to buy a 3g Diamond or renew/upgrade my plan due next month.
Then the hardly used Diamond100 will hit ebay and thats it.
(Unless someone in AU is looking to swap as Diam100 works on Optus/Voda etc, but not telstra)
So if your provider is going to get compatible phones then wait, otherwise like driving a v8 in first gear.
Okay, after the update to the Nexus my wife is getting MUCH better 3G coverage. Our house is on the edge of 3G/EDGE... I get Edge with very rare 3G... she is getting almost constant 3G (and 3 bars of it). In my work building she gets 3G and I do not.
Seems like whaever google did to the Nexus REALLY helped 3G coverage for us. HOW can we do the same for the G1.... or, what is making the difference?
Its most likely what ever it is that picks the signal up thats in the phone.
They most likely made it stronger so it could pick the signal up better.
idk if there is anything you could do to make it work on your g1...
unless you know how the hardware works in there.
I frankly know very little... but it is very obvious and I know there are folks on here with both the G1 and N1 that may be able to see the same (if they are on the edge of 3G). May not be as noticable for those in really good 3G coverage.
Is there a new radio we can load? I am very jealous of the Nexus' 3G connection in comparison to mine.
Im not sure. I dont think so but then again I wouldnt know.
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Okay, after the update to the Nexus my wife is getting MUCH better 3G coverage. Our house is on the edge of 3G/EDGE... I get Edge with very rare 3G... she is getting almost constant 3G (and 3 bars of it). In my work building she gets 3G and I do not.
Seems like whaever google did to the Nexus REALLY helped 3G coverage for us. HOW can we do the same for the G1.... or, what is making the difference?
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The N1 has a newer, better, yada yada yada radio itself that can get better signal with less juice...
Putting the N1 radio ROM on a G1 would do nothing, except brick it, but it won't make the radio in the G1 any better... personally, I think the G1 has a damn good radio as is, though (Best I ever experienced until the N1, and that is including the new BB's and WM's). The N1 gets 1 more bar at my Dad's than my G1, which is very impressive! But the G1 getting 1-2 bars is impressive as well considering every other phone I have owned or tested got nothing unless you stood by the front door or went outside.
Hello,
Wondering if any Raider users out there have previously used the Sensation 4g and can comment on any improvement in reception you have noticed since changing?
I have a sensation now (bell mobility) and am thinking of switching to the Raider in hopes of getting around the known antenna/reception issues i currently have with the sensation.
Thanks in advance to whoever responds...your answers will determine if I get the device or not.
I had a bell sensation and now have a raider. WiFi reception is dramatically better with the raider.....no signal drop regardless of how I hold the phone. GPS reception is also much better. Cell signal is not an issue for me so I can't really comment on that.
I would say to you that everything about signal connection (cell, hspa, wifo, gps, data, bt...) Is better than the sensation. Of course the most noticeaboe is the wifi deathgrip from the sensation, that dissapears with the raider.
Also, my family have a private camping in a rural, mid-remote area. With my sensation, it was a pain trying to make a call or push a text from there. Egen with my girlfroends desire z. With the raider i do not have the issue anymore, or at least its far far better!
Sent from my HTC Raider 4G LTE running ICS.
Thank you both!
I'm going to go grab one today then. Maybe I'll post back my findings in case this helps anyone else.
Really appreciate it.
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Finally got my new Raider (Rogers), have it all rooted/unlocked etc and running Virtuous Inquisition back on the Bell network.
Different radio's mind you, but I tried to get the Raider as close to the same as the sensation was.
Now in my basement I get absolutely full bars, and no reception issues and dropped calls like I did with my sensation. (the sensation barely gave me 1 bar if I was lucky down here and there was pretty much no chance of getting a call to go through).
Wifi reception seems to be better as well on the Raider.
I know this doesnt prove anything as there is room for so many variables that could affect my particular situation, however I am personally convinced there is something wrong with the sensation antenna design and the transition was extremely worthwhile for me.
Hope this helps someone.
I picked up a Raider last week after giving up on the signal issues in rural areas with my Sensation. Right now mine is upgraded to Bell ICS, s-off, and sim unlocked. What I've noticed however is that while the signal is good, it's not consistently good. I find that signal fluctuates a fair bit (ranging from 85 - 99 dbm in the same location over a period of minutes). Doing something that engages the antenna seems like it makes things better (especially things like switching on an off airplane mode). All told I'm happy with the phone and reception is definitely better than it was, still, I'm curious to know if anyone else has noticed this / has come up with a solution.
Hi All,
Well I recently purchased the HTC One and have been playing around with it for weeks now. I had the HTC EVO 4G LTE before. Well I am very disappointed. I know Sprint is a terrible network but it just doesn't make sense so I wanted to see if anyone else in my area or just in general is having the same terrible reception. I live up in the Northwest of Vegas and with my EVO I had perfect 4G reception with around 12-20Mb a sec. Now, the HTC One in the same area barely gets one bar. When I travel around town it usually is only on 3G and hardly ever on 4G. I have updated the PRL and Profile several times through the days and still nothing.
I am currently running the Viper One ROM and another issue that drives me crazy is when I use the built in hotspot (part of the ViperOne ROM), I can't get any internet when I am on 4G, I have to go in and set the network to only CDMA to actually have it work which then is slow as hell.
I really like this phone but this has gotten to the point where I want to throw it against the wall. I know they both have different radios and it seems the radio in the One can barely penetrate walls as well. Once I enter a store, my reception drops or I get no data at all.
I have tried a bunch of ROMs and have also reset the phone a million times, it is now unlocked and rooted.
Any advice or thoughts would be great.
Thanks!
fireforsin said:
Hi All,
Well I recently purchased the HTC One and have been playing around with it for weeks now. I had the HTC EVO 4G LTE before. Well I am very disappointed. I know Sprint is a terrible network but it just doesn't make sense so I wanted to see if anyone else in my area or just in general is having the same terrible reception. I live up in the Northwest of Vegas and with my EVO I had perfect 4G reception with around 12-20Mb a sec. Now, the HTC One in the same area barely gets one bar. When I travel around town it usually is only on 3G and hardly ever on 4G. I have updated the PRL and Profile several times through the days and still nothing.
I am currently running the Viper One ROM and another issue that drives me crazy is when I use the built in hotspot (part of the ViperOne ROM), I can't get any internet when I am on 4G, I have to go in and set the network to only CDMA to actually have it work which then is slow as hell.
I really like this phone but this has gotten to the point where I want to throw it against the wall. I know they both have different radios and it seems the radio in the One can barely penetrate walls as well. Once I enter a store, my reception drops or I get no data at all.
I have tried a bunch of ROMs and have also reset the phone a million times, it is now unlocked and rooted.
Any advice or thoughts would be great.
Thanks!
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With the evo the reception that the status bar displayed was the voice signal and the HTC one with the 4.3 upgrade they switched it to data as far as I know so that would explain the drastic differences in reception. As far as LTE connecting automaticly my phone seems to pick it up everywhere where my friend with his gs4 picks it up
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fireforsin said:
Hi All,
Well I recently purchased the HTC One and have been playing around with it for weeks now. I had the HTC EVO 4G LTE before. Well I am very disappointed. I know Sprint is a terrible network but it just doesn't make sense so I wanted to see if anyone else in my area or just in general is having the same terrible reception. I live up in the Northwest of Vegas and with my EVO I had perfect 4G reception with around 12-20Mb a sec. Now, the HTC One in the same area barely gets one bar. When I travel around town it usually is only on 3G and hardly ever on 4G. I have updated the PRL and Profile several times through the days and still nothing.
I am currently running the Viper One ROM and another issue that drives me crazy is when I use the built in hotspot (part of the ViperOne ROM), I can't get any internet when I am on 4G, I have to go in and set the network to only CDMA to actually have it work which then is slow as hell.
I really like this phone but this has gotten to the point where I want to throw it against the wall. I know they both have different radios and it seems the radio in the One can barely penetrate walls as well. Once I enter a store, my reception drops or I get no data at all.
I have tried a bunch of ROMs and have also reset the phone a million times, it is now unlocked and rooted.
Any advice or thoughts would be great.
Thanks!
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Try upgrading your radios http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44634436
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Try upgrading your radios http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=44634436
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I just upgraded the firmware and the bars display correctly. I just installed the hotspot hack and now my bars only display around 1 bar at my house. Strange.
I also just tested the hotspot on speedtest.net and only get around 2Mb on 4G. Before I installed it I had the Wifi Tether app by Treve and I was getting 6Mb. The only problem is I had to use it as an Ad-Hoc which my tablet and PS3 does not connect to.