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There is a new WM6.5 build 23022 with new UI
Check this out!!!
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=6625
More Screen shots
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=6672
Video
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=6713
nice that they are making changes to it. hope its not just another skin modification or something
Hi
Aleluya,
it is your time to put the Ok button
down, it's easier .....
Thank you for the info!
I don't like this new UI,top and bot bars are increased and for Manila this is not a good things,HTC Task Manager icon is covered from the clock,MS moved left softkey to the middle and this way home screen became ugly...
I try this 23022 on my HD but i moved back to 23017 in 5 minutes...I hope MS will complete the new UI with a better look,IMHO,now,this is not the right way.
Which ROM base on Build 23022? i want to try
texture said:
I don't like this new UI,top and bot bars are increased and for Manila this is not a good things,HTC Task Manager icon is covered from the clock,MS moved left softkey to the middle and this way home screen became ugly...
I try this 23022 on my HD but i moved back to 23017 in 5 minutes...I hope MS will complete the new UI with a better look,IMHO,now,this is not the right way.
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I can agree with you that it is not the prettiest of changes, however the fact that they are changing the UI proves that they have finally realized that the UI looks crap
Go here...at the end of the first post, there are 2 TEST versions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=493911
Thanks for the ROM Miri
Is this build not stable yet? Why is it Test version?
Because of the graphic glitches. If you have time test it and you will see what's going to come
edwinlinkt said:
Thanks for the ROM Miri
Is this build not stable yet? Why is it Test version?
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That looks nice OK button was always a big problem for me it's to small and it's too damn far away from the thumbs when you operate with one hand.It's not maybe the best solution but definetly an improvement I don't want to try it cause it's too early version but what happens to the task button? I see that the clock is there so it's removed ?
hey miri is it gonna be a non-manila v or we wait 4 a stable build coz this one seems nice alot visual changes
Nope, 23022 is not ready for daily usage, we have to wait a little more
sweet_eye_h said:
hey miri is it gonna be a non-manila v or we wait 4 a stable build coz this one seems nice alot visual changes
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23022 and Manilla 2.5
Miri - I am big user of your Manilla 2.5 ROMs. Please share when you think you will drop a 23022 build combined with Manilla 2.5. Keep up the good work!
Now the important problem is manila 2.5 is not stable! not the WM6.5 if you dont use manila, you can enjoy the new version of WM.
But I think microsoft is not creative. HTC had made the WM more easy-operative and better apparence.
So, it is not microsoft but HTC which should optimize their work.
i really hate Window 6.5 UI. Just look and see at the home screen the top and bottom bar are transparent but when u go into setting or sms for example they turn into black. It's really baadddddddddddd . That's the reason why i choose to stay with 6.1 rom until now
mitut said:
i really hate Window 6.5 UI. Just look and see at the home screen the top and bottom bar are transparent but when u go into setting or sms for example they turn into black. It's really baadddddddddddd . That's the reason why i choose to stay with 6.1 rom until now
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Absolutely right
I really like the new WM6.5 UI. It is a definite improvement from WM6.1, despite the fact that I don't really like a 100% Touch interface. I like using my stylus too but this is in WM6.5 not an issue.
What I don't like is Manila. How can I disable it completely? I am not talking about Touch Flo but about Manila. I want to have the original WM6.5 experience...
There are soime rom called super light here where u can get only 6.5 experience without manila. But as i talked above u should stay with 6.1 because u will get dissappointed with 6.5 right after u use it
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I really like the new WM6.5 UI. It is a definite improvement from WM6.1, despite the fact that I don't really like a 100% Touch interface. I like using my stylus too but this is in WM6.5 not an issue.
What I don't like is Manila. How can I disable it completely? I am not talking about Touch Flo but about Manila. I want to have the original WM6.5 experience...
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if yo want to disable manila goto settings->today->items and uncheck "TouchFlo 3D"
if you want to get the original wm6.5 experience you have to enable titanium which is microsofts new "desktop". you can enable it under settings->today->items and tick "Windows default".
This is the merge of MD (maldives) and Com3.
There are definitely many issues with the number of changes made and many of the new UI updates have no real skinned assets.
However, there are some fixes in 23022 and the native 480x800 resources help (the themes included also have reg settings which need to be applied).
X button replacements like HTC TaskManager have some issues, as do the Notification managers and enlarge start menu services.
MS is in the progress of transitioning the notification UI to the confetti plus engine (the HW accelerated, XML/CPR driven engine that runs the start menu)
Knowing Miri, he will likely have a stable build up by the end of the weekend.
So I am moving here from Raphael Section and I have a doubt that I could not clear by searching through Rhodium and Topaz forums.
What is the difference between Manila 2.1 and Manila 2.5 or as HTC wants us to call it, HTC sense 2.1 and HTC sense 2.5?
Is the home screen weather (the one with full screen clouds, snow etc.. on a full screen layer) available in both?
Thanks
I'd also like to know this as I've used 2.5 and not overly keen on all the changes.
yes, both have weather animation on the home screen. 2.5 has more detailed animation but is slower, 2.1 animation runs a lot smoother i found.
thank you
I will try 2.1 first.
I think 2.5 might become more optimized once HD2 matures.
Anyways, last few days of reading has landed me with following list.
1) 2.5 has widget themed home screen. i.e. clock, calendar, shortcuts are made to look like widgets. However, they are not as configurable as Hero or SPB shell.
2) 2.5 is social networking centric with support for twitter, facebook, footprint, youtube uploading, etc.. 2.1 has just facebook integration.
3) 2.5 has landscape support for audio, gallery tabs which has cover flow inspired from iphone
4) HTC says that sense 2.5 has deep roots in the ROM and is not just a today's screen plugin. I cannot confirm this in cooked ROMs as i haven't got my Pure yet. But this is what HTC said in one of the HD2 previews.
5) 2.5 is designed for 1GHz processor and thus might be too much for our 528 Mhz processors.
6) If you are not a twitter user and don't quite use your phone for playing songs, go for 2.1. It will always be more stable than 2.5 on our phones. HTC designs it with our phone in mind.
I might be wrong with this list.... and it won't be the first time
Thanks.
Yea I've tested some various builds before starting to cook my own and I like the 2.1 version. It feels like normal Manila but with the animated homescreen which is a nice touch. Manila is MUCH better on a WVGA phone vs the Raphael's VGA screen (too cramped).
My favorite build was Dutty's and had a nice simple black background. I like things simple.
Manila isn't bad, but I HATE how EVERY part of the screen is clickable and takes you to an app; especially the HUGE clock. I always end up launching apps I don't want. I guess Titanium is the same way but it has a tendency to scroll before actually clicking, so there are less app launches.
That plus it adds like 60mb to a rom (wtf).
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thank you
I will try 2.1 first.
I think 2.5 might become more optimized once HD2 matures.
Anyways, last few days of reading has landed me with following list.
1) 2.5 has widget themed home screen. i.e. clock, calendar, shortcuts are made to look like widgets. However, they are not as configurable as Hero or SPB shell.
2) 2.5 is social networking centric with support for twitter, facebook, footprint, youtube uploading, etc.. 2.1 has just facebook integration.
3) 2.5 has landscape support for audio, gallery tabs which has cover flow inspired from iphone
4) HTC says that sense 2.5 has deep roots in the ROM and is not just a today's screen plugin. I cannot confirm this in cooked ROMs as i haven't got my Pure yet. But this is what HTC said in one of the HD2 previews.
5) 2.5 is designed for 1GHz processor and thus might be too much for our 528 Mhz processors.
6) If you are not a twitter user and don't quite use your phone for playing songs, go for 2.1. It will always be more stable than 2.5 on our phones. HTC designs it with our phone in mind.
I might be wrong with this list.... and it won't be the first time
Thanks.
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Good info dude.
So these all are your experiment or any HTC source?
I had just posted one similar question, So Now I will point that to this thread.
Thanks.
HTC HD MIRI V 13.0 No weather wallpapaer animation at all but weather demo is their nay suggestions?
hey, I've got a Topaz with official HTC 6.5 ROM with 2.1 and weather on the front screen, but i dont get weather animation? ^o) any ideas?
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hey, I've got a Topaz with official HTC 6.5 ROM with 2.1 and weather on the front screen, but i dont get weather animation? ^o) any ideas?
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Doesn't work if you change the default wallpaper.
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Doesn't work if you change the default wallpaper.
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ah thank you
I take the above stated, to ask if the 2.5 Manila have weather fullscreen animation with other background that the default one. I didn't found ANY possibility of having personalized background's with the weather fullscreen animation in 2.1 - at all. Anyway, I guess that is supported by the 2.5 Manila version.
Can someone confirm this, please.
PMoto
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I take the above stated, to ask if the 2.5 Manila have weather fullscreen animation with other background that the default one. I didn't found ANY possibility of having personalized background's with the weather fullscreen animation in 2.1 - at all. Anyway, I guess that is supported by the 2.5 Manila version.
Can someone confirm this, please.
PMoto
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Yes, with manila 2.5 you can choose between 2 options:
Weather Wallpaper
Animated Wallpaper
The weather wallpaper lets you choose any wallpaper and the animated weather will work with it, in the whole screeen, bealtifull but slows the Topaz to a crawl.
The animated wallpaper just do a kind of glow bottom to top, behind the clock and links of the first screen, with whatever picture you choose.
Thanks for that info.
That's what I need - weather wallpaper in 2.1 Manila.
I'm so desperate....
guys, thanks for the summary
how to upgrade to Sense 2.5 ? i have stock HTC Rom with WinMo 6.5 running on Diamond2
I'm running Sense 2.5 on my Diamond and it runs like a charm!
Using this ROM http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=593678
Please search before you post!
This question has been answered before. Please search before you start a new thread.
-ThaDeanesta (The Topaz Moderator)
looking for sense 2.1 rom from desire z and desire hd.... any idea
improve speed to HTC sense 2.5
developers team to improve performance
NeoS2007's 3d drives a bit faster
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442712
how we can get htc 2.5 works better on HD and faster as sense 2.1 ?
HTC manila 2.1 sense works very fast with wm6.5
but sense 2.5 is too slow on HD and htc sms is very very slow and laggy
any chance to improve speed and optimaze htc sense 2.5 to works better on HD
any chance to optimaze sense 2.5 and convert animations to lower resolution like they did in manila 2.5 converted to VGA ...
is possible to use sms tab like in sense 2.1 more stable than htc messengs ..
new htc messenger is bug and slow is possible to use sms like in manila 2.1
and the htc sense 2.5 works slow on HD animations lag and sms lag
Many thanks
Regardless of the ROM and chef that built it, whats your favourite and why...is it the speed, looks or stability.
like the button design very easy to use
6.1 Nice and fast with zero problems. I don't use too many apps so the finger friendliness of 6.5 isn't much of an attraction to me and I don't like the 'Start' menu layout of it.
6.1 - fast, stable, supports drag&drop (in Total Commander/CE), has start menu with recent programs, it's easier to select items in listboxes (item is highlighted when you tap&hold on it so you know what are you selecting, this is overrided by scrolling in 6.5), has moveable msgbox windows (still can be dismissed like in 6.5 by tapping on the window content, you don't have to aim for OK/X), unlike 6.5.5 it is possible to run Wisbar Advance on 6.1 (and 6.5) to have icons of running programs right on taskbar, 6.5.5 doesn't support programs with toolbars (I had problems with Total Commander/CE - no start/close visible, icons too big so they didn't fit).
And yes - I like Total Commander/CE
24006 - 6.5.3 - no manila and htc stuff - titanium only. best battery-life, relatively good speed
28232 - 6.5.5 - no manila and htc stuff - titanium only. good battery-life, god speed
6.1 + Manila 2.1 - best combo for manila roms... relatively fast, but compared to win-only device... you think that it freezed sometimes when you are waiting for manila contacts, which are worse and unglier than win 6.5.* by default.
Depends on your needs... if you like social network engine, take manila one but choose faster and older sys. If you want to work and run programs mostly on your phone, then i recommend win-only rom. The best (and nearly only) way how to obtain it is to cook it. Try the Ervius kitchen here, it is ok - after 2-3 evenings you have your own baby-rom
is it good to set up another poll for UI shell choices for reference for chefs? like manila 2.1, sense 2.1, sense 2.5, titanium, clean (for spb mobile shell)...
Have tried a lot of ROMs of all flavors, but I somehow always end with some variant of 6.1
I still might choose some 6.5.x variant (currently have an eye on Miniterror's Ravage and Wajk's blackSTONEhenge)
I use 6.5.5.24001 titanium.
Pros: Very stable, fast, no memory management problems, very good battery life, polished graphics, finger friendly.
Cons: Some programs have problems with bottom toolbar, but such is life!
By the way, here is a good tip for handling the non-visible ok/close button: Just map it to the tap and hold function of the call button! This way, when you have an app that won't display properly, simply tap and hold the call button until the app is closed/minimized!
Bottom Line: 24001 is really rock solid in terms of memory management, thus I prefer this over a more compatible/conventional OS that has to be restarted every two days due to memory leaks!
Enjoy!
It's either WM6.1 & Sense 2.5 or WM6.5.5 & Sense 2.1 for me.
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It's either WM6.1 & Sense 2.5 or WM6.5.5 & Sense 2.1 for me.
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What wm6.1 and sense 2.5 rom are you using?
I like to use 6.5 with sense 2.5, as the windows 6.5 is stable and sense 2.5 has now got quicker on roms
i like windows 6.1 more bug free than 6.5.5
but 6.5.5 have nice bottom toolbar... more fingger friendly i think
zaxxx said:
6.1 - fast, stable, supports drag&drop (in total commander/ce), has start menu with recent programs, it's easier to select items in listboxes
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+1 .
Stupid things in 6.5 & 6.5.x
Despite some minor improvement in 6.5 and 6.5.x in compare with 6.1, it’s so strange to me why Microsoft always forget some basic assumptions and doing very stupid modifications?! For example I cannot understand why in 6.5 and 6.5.x drop down start menu which is contained recent opened application is missed, while it was so useful!
Another Foolishness thing is the new lock screen! Why instead of locking the home screen or today screen which is contained user required information, a new lock screen created? And then due to the shortage of information in lock screen many developers are working to make it as complete as possible!? Also why there is a lock button just in Start menu page? If it’s useful to be available, why it does not exist in other pages?
Anyway, it’s always been fault of Microsoft! Day after day creating new things, but loosing basic concepts like ease of usage and simplicity. You can see this matter from moving from XP to Vista and then to W7!
I wish somebody were exists in Microsoft to listen to the customers carefully and check their ideas by himself.
it isn't very hard to figure out why they changed the lockscreen *whisperes something about Apple and the iPhone*
I have a question and a request at the same time...Can someone make a weather clock like the one in sense 2.1 for TF3D ? I am using WM 6.1 stock rom, my carriers latest version - cause I dont wanna lose warranty - and I am constantly switching between TF3D - with all kinds of mods and a sense 2.1 vga build by kimi_sae_ireba. It looks nice, but it's slow as hell...I mean really slow, but i like it cause of the animated weather clock...sacrificing performance for looks...Is there a possibility to make a weather clock for TF3D ? even a non-animated version would be nice, but an animated one would be perfect...so...what do you think ? I was thinking maybe isolate one tab - home from sense 2.1 and moving it to TF3D...I have no idea about developing apps, so I'm just saying stupid thoughts