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I've been out of the phone market for a bit, making due with a cooked Windows Mobile 6.5 on T-Mobile because of not being able to sync my corp email on Android.
Got an email today and seen the new myTouch 3G Slide. I had a Sidekick 3 a few years ago and love QWERTY keyboards on phones. I have an iPod Touch and not sure if I could use a virtual keyboard with all the texting/emailing/ircing I do from my phone (I work in IT). Just from the picture, I immediately thought this would be my next phone.
After further research, it looks like the myTouch 3G Slide is geared for consumers/family while I would consider myself a power user. Compared to the Nexus One, it has a scaled down CPU (600mhz) and has the Expresso UI, which I think I would rather just have a stock Android. But it does have a QWERTY keyboard!
I started looking at the Nexus One. Faster processor, stock Android but no QWERTY keyboard.
I'm trying to decide which phone is for me. I would like to stay with T-Mobile. I tried Verizon for a day, bill was $40 more per month and they had IRC ports blocked. I want to be able to multitask and IRC/AIM from my phone, with IRC constantly connected in the background.
Also, I do not live in a T-Mobile 3G area. I would be on the Edge network and not sure how either of these newer phones would perform.
After some time, I could probably reload the Slide without the custom UI, but I'll be stuck with a 600mhz processor and that bothers me.
With the Nexus, I would have a better performing phone but no QWERTY. The QWERTY might be the deal breaker but I'm not 100% sure.
Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks!
The Nexus One is the first phone I've owned without a hardware qwerty keyboard and I thought it was going to a really tough transition. Then I got the swype beta. I still prefer hardware keyboards, but I wouldn't trade my Nexus for anything else on the market right now.
Having used the MyTouch3G and now using the Nexus One, I'd have to say N1. Especially if you're an IT guy and wish to do multitasking and moreover wish to multitask without facepalming every 5 minutes. There is NO comparison in speed between the MT3G and the Nexus One. The N1 is snappy every minute of the day no matter what I throw at it. The MT3G can still do all the same things, but honestly, it's slowwwwwwww... Go Nexus One and get yourself Swype. You'll never need another hardware keyboard again.
Don't disappoint yourself!
Edit: Unlock your bootloader and load whatever UI or custom ROM you'd like on your N1
Jim
You must be kidding?
Smaller screen
Lower resolution
Slow processor
Weird custom UI
Low developer support
Most likely locked to T-Mobile
And a bit ugly
You can get used to using an on-screen keyboard. And there's more than a half-dozen of them to choose from.
You can't get used to small, slow, outdated, crappy hardware.
If you REALLY want a physical keyboard, at least the Nexus One is unlocked and has extremely high resellability. So when a Snapdragon-wielding physical keyboard phone arrives, you can make the swap easily.
There's just no contest here.
At least wait for the LG Ally to get released before you make any decisions.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/04/t-mobile-mytouch-3g-slide-official-android-2-1-qwerty-coming/
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/03/lg-confirms-android-powered-ally-coming-may-20th/
Here's my two cents.
A smartphone without 3G BLOWS...you won't enjoy the full capability of the device.
If I were you... I'd go with Sprint. Chances are they have 3G in your area. The Evo 4G is the device you want. If you're really a power user, you'll want to shoot yourself if you have a slower device than you need to... and I'll be honest. I had a G1 prior to the N1. I was weary of not having a hardware keyboard, but typing on a large screen makes it much easier... the Evo will probably be even easier.
uansari1 said:
It's like having sex while wearing a condom and being buzzed...
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LoL haven't seen that line linked to a phone before
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LoL haven't seen that line linked to a phone before
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I know exactly how that feels so I can relate!
So with that being said, I think it's time for me to get off T-Mobile since they do not have 3G in my area. I liked T-Mobile because they are an underdog and I have a grandfathered unlimited Internet package for only $20/month. Sprint and Verizon do have 3G in my area. This has been a non-issue with my old phone since I mainly used it as a texting/email device.
While looking at the new T-Mobile phones, the HD2 really caught my eye. Large screen and it just looked good. I did not like the idea of still using Windows Mobile 6.5.
I looked into uansari1's suggestion at the Sprint EVO 4G. This is the phone I am going to get! The EVO 4G has the same hardware as the HD2 and the latest Android build! It's time for me to stop worrying about the qwerty keyboard and move on.
I am not under contract with T-Mobile so I'll be visiting Sprint soon and hopefully get a pre-order.
IgpI say go with the LG Ally. I can't exactly find how fast the professor is, but it is official that it will feature Live Wallpapers - so it can't be that bad. It runs Eclair (Android 2.1) and has a slide out QWERTY keyboard as you want. Oh wait, though, its coming to Verizon.. and you said you just switched from that.
Well, in that case definitely go with the Nexus.
Bigger screen than the Slide, faster processor, it is Google's phone, the developer support is high, it is easy to root - and I can type as fast as I could on my G1 with the HTC_IME keyboard (the keyboard that HTC Sense features, that can be installed on the Nexus). Really this was one of those duh questions, unless you really need a QWERTY keyboard, the choice is simply too obvious.
Though, if you like Espresso (the custom version of Sense that the Slide possess), you could easily root your device and install an HTC Desire ROM. It's not exactly like Espresso, it may be better, or equal to, to some.
Oh your going with the Evo, that's good. T-Mobile can't be an underdog, I wouldn't think an underdog would be the fourth largest carrier in the US. That's not first, second, or third, but fourth is not entirely horrible.
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IgpI say go with the LG Ally. I can't exactly find how fast the professor is, but it is official that it will feature Live Wallpapers - so it can't be that bad. It runs Eclair (Android 2.1) and has a slide out QWERTY keyboard as you want. Oh wait, though, its coming to Verizon.. and you said you just switched from that.
Well, in that case definitely go with the Nexus.
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I think the biggest issue for the OP is the lack of 3G, which will limit his ability to enjoy his phone. If the N1 still goes to Sprint, he'll have that option as well if he goes with that carrier.
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I'd feel very frustrated... like going to a strip club and not being able to tap the dancer.
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Man, you weren't kidding about being able to come up with the sex analogies!
You got any more analogies you could come up to describe a non 3g experience? I love em'
did you seriously ask this...N1 all the way. Mytouch slide looks like trash
I'd feel very frustrated... like going to a strip club and not being able to tap the dancer.
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Man, you weren't kidding about being able to come up with the sex analogies!
You got any more analogies you could come up to describe a non 3g experience? I love em'
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It's a gift. ;-)
I'm sure you'll see more from me eventually about stuff other than 3G as well.
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I've been out of the phone market for a bit, making due with a cooked Windows Mobile 6.5 on T-Mobile because of not being able to sync my corp email on Android.
Got an email today and seen the new myTouch 3G Slide. I had a Sidekick 3 a few years ago and love QWERTY keyboards on phones. I have an iPod Touch and not sure if I could use a virtual keyboard with all the texting/emailing/ircing I do from my phone (I work in IT). Just from the picture, I immediately thought this would be my next phone.
After further research, it looks like the myTouch 3G Slide is geared for consumers/family while I would consider myself a power user. Compared to the Nexus One, it has a scaled down CPU (600mhz) and has the Expresso UI, which I think I would rather just have a stock Android. But it does have a QWERTY keyboard!
I started looking at the Nexus One. Faster processor, stock Android but no QWERTY keyboard.
I'm trying to decide which phone is for me. I would like to stay with T-Mobile. I tried Verizon for a day, bill was $40 more per month and they had IRC ports blocked. I want to be able to multitask and IRC/AIM from my phone, with IRC constantly connected in the background.
Also, I do not live in a T-Mobile 3G area. I would be on the Edge network and not sure how either of these newer phones would perform.
After some time, I could probably reload the Slide without the custom UI, but I'll be stuck with a 600mhz processor and that bothers me.
With the Nexus, I would have a better performing phone but no QWERTY. The QWERTY might be the deal breaker but I'm not 100% sure.
Any thoughts or suggestions? Thanks!
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would att have 3g coverage ? the nexus one is available with att service. not that I'm promoting att... oh god.
if you love hardware keyboards, you'll miss it on the nexus one. i have.
i haven't personally seen the slide, so i can't comment on it's cpu speed... but if it's similar to the g1, i don't see it being a problem.
can't answer your exchange question either, i never touch the stuff.
I work at Tmo and have gotten to play with the Slide. I also own an N1 which between the 2 I prefer my nexus. I love the larger screen, longer battery life, and faster processor. the slide is a good phone and better than any android selection you can find at a Tmo store at the moment. The ui on the slide us very smooth and very impressive because the processor is not that much faster than a lot of the androids Tmo currently has.
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Here's my two cents.
A smartphone without 3G BLOWS. It's like having sex while wearing a condom and being buzzed... you won't enjoy the full capability of the device.
If I were you... I'd go with Sprint. Chances are they have 3G in your area. The Evo 4G is the device you want. If you're really a power user, you'll want to shoot yourself if you have a slower device than you need to... and I'll be honest. I had a G1 prior to the N1. I was weary of not having a hardware keyboard, but typing on a large screen makes it much easier... the Evo will probably be even easier.
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Nice analogy! lol I do have to agree... I have to use wifi where I live, but I work in a 3g/HSPA/HSPA+ market... at home I feel like what I assume a junkie feels when they are in rehab and are forced to use smaller amounts of juice! I think the HSPA runs as fast as wifi and the plus is like ungodly faster than sprints "4G"... Nexus is HSPA and under, but no confirmation on H/H+
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I work at Tmo and have gotten to play with the Slide. I also own an N1 which between the 2 I prefer my nexus. I love the larger screen, longer battery life, and faster processor. the slide is a good phone and better than any android selection you can find at a Tmo store at the moment. The ui on the slide us very smooth and very impressive because the processor is not that much faster than a lot of the androids Tmo currently has.
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I find it very upsetting that my faster N1 has twice the battery life of my slide...
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Having used the MyTouch3G and now using the Nexus One, I'd have to say N1. Especially if you're an IT guy and wish to do multitasking and moreover wish to multitask without facepalming every 5 minutes. There is NO comparison in speed between the MT3G and the Nexus One. The N1 is snappy every minute of the day no matter what I throw at it. The MT3G can still do all the same things, but honestly, it's slowwwwwwww... Go Nexus One and get yourself Swype. You'll never need another hardware keyboard again.
Don't disappoint yourself!
Edit: Unlock your bootloader and load whatever UI or custom ROM you'd like on your N1
Jim
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AGREED!!!!
ap3604 said:
Man, you weren't kidding about being able to come up with the sex analogies!
You got any more analogies you could come up to describe a non 3g experience? I love em'
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How about... It's like masturbating without thumbs. Sure it still feels good but it just doesn't get the job done.
I am also trying to decide on the N1 or the MT3GS. Leaning toward the N1
Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks
Cpt.Curry said:
Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks
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watch for screen burn-in
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I have a nexus one, but I recommend that you buy a htc incredible
or wait until the htc incredible evo
Got my N1 since Jan and still lovin it to this day. Only thing I think you'd miss from the switch is the screen size of the HD2. Incredible probably would have a closer feel to the HD2 since it runs sense ui (stock). But you can also have sense on a rooted N1 and a lot more tweaks.
The Nexus is sexier than the Incredible, will get updates sooner than any android phones atm and has more dev support if you decide to root. Only reason why I would probably get the Incredible is coz of the carrier (Verizon) and not the device.
i just talked the girl i've been hanging out with into getting the incredible, but only because she wanted to stay with verizon. i've played with it. i prefer the nexus, personally. i think the nexus one looks better, and it definitely has better dev support, if you wanted to tweak it (unlock the bootloader and root it, then put on custom ROMs).
however, if i was going to be with verizon, i'd take the incredible, for sure.
only thing i don't like about the N1 is the crap coverage i get, but that's a network issue with TMO, not any fault of the phone.
Well i think he has t-mobile since he has the htc hd2 well i switched over just about a week ago from the htc hd2 to the nexus the htc hd2 lags and to slow its beautiful in looks but thats about it.. Once u use it its horrible the nexus one does both it looks AMAZING and it's supER fastt.. Once hacked EVEN FASTER.. and froyo 2.2 is just amazingly fast mine is rooted and stuff already because ive used android before ive had it since the g1 android so yeahh but you should def do the switch =]
Yeah... Froyo with JIT and Flash, although its a work in progress. I couldn't ask for more, perfect phone for me at least.
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Well i think he has t-mobile since he has the htc hd2 well i switched over just about a week ago from the htc hd2 to the nexus the htc hd2 lags and to slow its beautiful in looks but thats about it.. Once u use it its horrible the nexus one does both it looks AMAZING and it's supER fastt.. Once hacked EVEN FASTER.. and froyo 2.2 is just amazingly fast mine is rooted and stuff already because ive used android before ive had it since the g1 android so yeahh but you should def do the switch =]
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If you hold the phone at the bottom, the signal strength drops dramatically.
The multitouch sensor flips axes when your fingers get close. No problems for pinch/zoom but bad for games that rely on multitouch. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuB0VvkmwA
It's difficult to see the screen in bright daylight unless screen brightness is all the way up.
The soft buttons are difficult to hit until you get used to them (the touch points are higher than the labels).
I think that's all of the issues...
If any of these would be huge problems for you, get an Incredible or an EVO 4G. However, the N1 has the strongest developer/hacking following currently, and is sure to get any updates from Google first and long before any other phone (as has been the case with Android "FroYo" 2.2.) And of course, the look is personal preference; I think the N1 looks the best of any current Android phone with the Incredible/Evo being very plain and lacking style.
Anyway, Nexus One, Incredible, Evo 4G: the absolute best three Android phones across all four carriers in the US. You absolutely can't go wrong.
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[Edit]: Just saw you said N1 or Desire, so you must be in Europe.
In which case,
A) N1 trumps the Desire. Paul OBrien said it best:
http://twitter.com/PaulOBrien/status/14976167156
@ScootAUFC It's superior by the nature of its unlocked state and the fact it gets updates quickest of any Android phone...
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B) Please search next time! There have been dozens of N1 vs Desire topics in the past week alone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691467
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779
Cpt.Curry said:
Planning to get the n1 since I can't stand the winmo interface anymore, its taking to much of my time to get everything working everday, planning to do my first switch to android and thinking about getting the n1 or the desire. Interested to know if theres anything I need to know about the n1 that is a put off. Stuff that annoys users on a day to day basis. I mean no offense to n1 users, just trying to get some info.
Thanks
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Get the EVO 4G instead unless you're outside the US, in which case get the Incredible.
No reason to buy the N1 now that it is no longer the top Android phone. With the EVO 4G you aren't losing anything, and only gaining.
EDIT: After reading a couple of the other posts, maybe the N1 would work out better due to faster updates and unlocked nature of phone at ship.
No I dont have the T-mobile hd2 I have the normal one the T8585, and I live in Australia so incredible is out the question. Or else I would've seriously thought of it, it definitely looks incredible I mean 8.1mp and 4.3 inch screen damn thats good.
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Is screen burn-in really an issue?
Paul22000 said:
If you hold the phone at the bottom, the signal strength drops dramatically.
The multitouch sensor flips axes when your fingers get close. No problems for pinch/zoom but bad for games that rely on multitouch. Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuB0VvkmwA
It's difficult to see the screen in bright daylight unless screen brightness is all the way up.
The soft buttons are difficult to hit until you get used to them (the touch points are higher than the labels).
I think that's all of the issues...
If any of these would be huge problems for you, get an Incredible or an EVO 4G. However, the N1 has the strongest developer/hacking following currently, and is sure to get any updates from Google first and long before any other phone (as has been the case with Android "FroYo" 2.2.) And of course, the look is personal preference; I think the N1 looks the best of any current Android phone with the Incredible/Evo being very plain and lacking style.
Anyway, Nexus One, Incredible, Evo 4G: the absolute best three Android phones across all four carriers in the US. You absolutely can't go wrong.
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[Edit]: Just saw you said N1 or Desire, so you must be in Europe.
In which case,
A) N1 trumps the Desire. Paul OBrien said it best:
B) Please search next time! There have been dozens of N1 vs Desire topics in the past week alone:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=690661
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691467
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6043779#post6043779
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Thanks a lot for all your input, but the problems thats you've listed are they a day to day issue for n1 customers. I mean would you be annoyed by it everyday. Does the desire have similar issues. I probably don't know where to get the incredible from and it would also probably be way over my price range.
Thanks a lot
Hi guys,
I have a Nexus One running 2.2 and was thinking about swapping it for a HTC HD2 and then putting Froyo on it myself. I like the fact that the HD2 has a bigger screen and pretty much the same spec as the Nexus One.
Does anyone know how the HTC HD2 runs after putting Froyo in it? Is it as fast as the N1 with Froyo? Is everything working like callls Wifi etc.? Would you do the swap I am about to do or do you think I'm mad?
Cheers,
M
I honestly hated my HD2. Good luck
Cheers Wylker......can I ask why though? What handset you got now man?
mark.m.moran said:
Cheers Wylker......can I ask why though? What handset you got now man?
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Probably because of windows mobile. =)
Cool! Anyone have one and put Froyo on it? Is it hard to do guys?
M
i did tried it on my HD2 last night . software still have alot not respone error not smooth running yet. had to force stop alot the screen look washed out compare to nexus one battery not recognized. and it running hot. i did see the advance of having larger screen thought.
Thank you tiensinh99. Do you have a link for a tutorial on how to put Froyo on it??
Larger screen... if you prefer that, that's probably the only thing that makes it better than the Nexus. The biggest downside is it being a windows based phone. Wait for galaxy S to come out for T-Mobile. Or go for EVO if you want a bigger screen, that would be a smarter way to go.
If I was to start all over though, and had a choice between those devices ... I'd buy a nexus one once again.
the instruction how to install is in the LEO general forum. also there r the dual boot intruction.
samsung galaxy S already came out on tmobile. and i'm still choice N1 over HD2 every time.
Cheers guys.....I think I have my answer.
M
Wasn't there another thread where someone was looking to swap his HD2 for an Nexus One?
Maybe these 2 should meet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=728343
thinking of trading nexus one for iphone 3gs and htc hd2, both phones are unlocked. Would this trade be worth doing? I ve used an unlocked, jailbroken iphone before pretty solid, wouldnt mind playing with the hd2 for awhile.
I couldn't stand using my friends HD2 for more than 5 minutes.
wouldn't trade my nexus for that phone even if it could transform into optimus prime...
or build an island and transform into a jet and fly me to that island.. i don't care.
I would not do that. While it is neat to see android running on a a wm phone, it would never be nearly as stable as a real android phone. I had a touch diamond and I could never use android on a daily basis, had awful battery life and all kind of other problems
What cell phone do u think is the best u have ever owned ? And why?
Mine was the iPhone 4 because the apps were amazing. Better than Android in my opinion.
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id have to say my Thunderbolt beats my 3gs
Currently I believe the best phone I've owned is the HTC Inspire 4G. I find it nothing short of awe inspiring. Before it, though, the HTC HD2 was the best phone I ever owned. It is a robust, hearty and reliable phone that can be any phone you want it to be. I'm currently using a Desire HD Android ROM on it and there are many others that can be used, as well as WP7.
But I suspect, once I break down and root my Inspire...if I actually ever do, it will be a genuine replacement for the venerable HD2.
My iPhone 4 is the best phone I have for reliability and battery life, but it is so supremely boring right now. I love my iPhone. don't get me wrong. It's my main and primary phone and the apps, as you say, are outstanding, but I couldn't live with only my iPhone. And it, to me, isn't as user friendly as my Inspire.
I'm getting the device in a couple days I've used android since the g1 days wondering how u guy like the hd7 and wp7 in general did.l I make a mistake jumping ship from android
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no
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I have been an android user and still am
But I feel the HD7 is not the best of phones now if you really want to try wp7. I would have suggested the Titan or Nokia Lumia.
not that specs matter with regards to wp7 but I am sure you would have loved the extra battery power.
Hd7 dosent last much long... and I love the android customisations, but keep coming back to wp7 now and then.
I feel wp7 will be the best with Appolo. Mango has done a good job but its still not upto the level, also by next year with the release of appollo, wp7 market would have caught up a bit as well.
I would love the titan but I'm on T-Mobile so to get good data its this phone or the radar or the dell venue pro I guese
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I gave my Sensation to my wife and went back to my HD7 (had it since month 1). It is a great phone and I don't really miss anything that Android did differently.
I personally think it is the best WP7 device on TMOUS. I cant justify the .5" extra screen for "4g" data. I only hit my throttle cap quicker with my Sensation.
I think you made a wise choice. Unless TMO decides to drop the Nokia 900 or HTC Titan for Christmas. The Nokia 710 is all but a given, but not worth the smaller screen. I'm hoping for something high end soon since all we are receiving is mid-range phones with Mango.
I just traded my old Droid 2 for a hd7 but using my g2x.
Wp7 hasn't really caught my eye in terms of use. I mean its fast and seems nice but the lack of apps and msd slot has me wanting to sell this. However I wish there was a way to install android on it
I've just bought an HD7 after using an HD2 for a couple of years. I find WP7 a breath of fresh air, a fantastically well focussed OS with communications and integration to the fore, just what I want a phone to do. No problems here with battery life, I'm getting 30-36 hours on a full charge.
you will find yourself using your phone for less time .. you won't be worried about you phone problems anymore ( battery, getting XX app for XX function ) .. life will be easier
That's my problem with my senny I always gotta mess with stuff to get it to run correctly
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jriv said:
That's my problem with my senny I always gotta mess with stuff to get it to run correctly
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thats the basic idea this one runs correctly out of the box.. find yourself another thing to mess around with
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you will find yourself using your phone for less time .. you won't be worried about you phone problems anymore ( battery, getting XX app for XX function ) .. life will be easier
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I have noticed this too. Its funny to say, but the commercials about using your phone less are right. The built in programs are so efficient, I have my phone out less. Even when I do need an app, its in and out quick.
Don't get me wrong, I loved my Sensation, but I was always doing something, flashing something, adjusting something. I was never satisfied.
With my HD7 I was happy out of the box. I've had it since the original release month. I have flashed a custom ROM, but that's only because I could. I didn't HAVE to do it to make it better (although the custom color themes are fantastic!).
Update got the hd7 unlocked it put latest dft mango rom and I must say I love the looks and the smoothness. Even with my sensation over locked there were times when it was laggy. I like how you don't need a crazy spec phone for smooth performance that being said the number of apps and the quality of apps for wp7 is pretty much garbage but hopefully that will get better with time android had crappy apps for the longest time and is just now getting all the good ios apps
huge mistake dude