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Hi,
I am currently on the Darky v7.0 and I wanted to flash to 7.0.2
Do I just copy the rom in the sd folder and flash using rom manager just as i did before?
or do i have to switch back to stock 2.1 (rogers) and then flash 7.0.2?
This will be my second time flashing.
Please advice.
Thanks
Just install it over 7.0 if you got the non wipe version.
peachpuff said:
Just install it over 7.0 if you got the non wipe version.
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This is the thread and the link to it. it does say "No wipe".
[ROM] Official Darky Port v7.0.2 No Wipe]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880859&page=53
so does it mean its ok to install over 7.0?
does no wipe mean i dont have to wipe/remove the rom before flashing a new one?
Thanks
I too am curious why we are told to revert back to 100% stock before every time we change a rom. Why can't we just use Clockwork Recovery to wipe data/factory reset just like we do with every other Android phone?
Phateless said:
I too am curious why we are told to revert back to 100% stock before every time we change a rom. Why can't we just use Clockwork Recovery to wipe data/factory reset just like we do with every other Android phone?
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samsung, in their infinite wisdom, decided rfs was the best filestructure to use for this phone. some roms change that to ext4 with voodoo, some roms rely on ULF to convert to ext4 and some dont convert anything.
ODIN is the user-friendly way to wipe everything back to stock...completely. if you remember to revert any lagfix (voodoo, ULF) then load your rom, it will work fine.
HOWEVER, there are so many people that dont remember to do that, its easier to flash back to stock rather than troubleshoot what could have possibly happened during their flash
personally, i have found that it takes just as long to revert the lagfix as it does to use ODIN....so rather than hoping that my new flash isnt corrupted in some way by my old flash, i flash back to stock. takes me 5 minutes total. as long as you keep a copy of the CWM update.zip on your sdcard, there is not even a reason to boot back into stock and root/setup/install rom manager, etc.
Pirateghost said:
samsung, in their infinite wisdom, decided rfs was the best filestructure to use for this phone. some roms change that to ext4 with voodoo, some roms rely on ULF to convert to ext4 and some dont convert anything.
ODIN is the user-friendly way to wipe everything back to stock...completely. if you remember to revert any lagfix (voodoo, ULF) then load your rom, it will work fine.
HOWEVER, there are so many people that dont remember to do that, its easier to flash back to stock rather than troubleshoot what could have possibly happened during their flash
personally, i have found that it takes just as long to revert the lagfix as it does to use ODIN....so rather than hoping that my new flash isnt corrupted in some way by my old flash, i flash back to stock. takes me 5 minutes total. as long as you keep a copy of the CWM update.zip on your sdcard, there is not even a reason to boot back into stock and root/setup/install rom manager, etc.
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Thank you, that's the answer I was looking for. I already noticed that CWM can be flashed through an update.zip, so if I'm currently running the stock rom I don't have to ODIN and wipe data, do I? I can just flash CWM, nandroid, then go ahead and flash whatever I want?
Then NEXT TIME I flash something else I'll have to ODIN first.
Or does the user data already present in the stock rom make enough of a difference that I should ODIN anyway?
Phone is my gf's so I would really like to have a nandroid of her setup exactly as it is now so we can go back if she doesn't like Cognition, or whatever rom we decide to flash.
Phateless said:
Thank you, that's the answer I was looking for. I already noticed that CWM can be flashed through an update.zip, so if I'm currently running the stock rom I don't have to ODIN and wipe data, do I? I can just flash CWM, nandroid, then go ahead and flash whatever I want?
Then NEXT TIME I flash something else I'll have to ODIN first.
Or does the user data already present in the stock rom make enough of a difference that I should ODIN anyway?
Phone is my gf's so I would really like to have a nandroid of her setup exactly as it is now so we can go back if she doesn't like Cognition, or whatever rom we decide to flash.
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you are correct in assuming that if you are running stock currently, you do not have to odin first
if you remember to revert any lagfix that may have been applied (depends on rom) you wont have to ODIN
make a nandroid of her current setup.
now this is where it gets tricky. i just played around with doing this last night actually:
if you go from 2.1 to 2.2 or higher, you cannot just flash back to 2.1 nandroid restore. the nandroid doesnt backup or restore your modem and kernel
going backwards to 2.1, you will want to flash a 2.1 kernel, and modem prior to restoring your nandroid backup and vice versa if you make a nandroid of 2.2 and want to go back to it from 2.1
if you keep clockwork flashable versions of such needed kernels and modems as well as a nandroid of the original setup and the cwm update.zip file on your sdcard, you will never need odin...unless there is a major malfunction. this can all be done in CWM, but as i said, the noob-friendly, and surefire way to get a fresh install is ODIN. i dont think any other company has something like this available to flash back to stock, so the methods used on the roms in the galaxy s phones are slightly different than the roms for htc or motorola devices. to me, i think this is a major win for us, in that most things are easily recoverable using a windows tool
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you are correct in assuming that if you are running stock currently, you do not have to odin first
if you remember to revert any lagfix that may have been applied (depends on rom) you wont have to ODIN
make a nandroid of her current setup.
now this is where it gets tricky. i just played around with doing this last night actually:
if you go from 2.1 to 2.2 or higher, you cannot just flash back to 2.1 nandroid restore. the nandroid doesnt backup or restore your modem and kernel
going backwards to 2.1, you will want to flash a 2.1 kernel, and modem prior to restoring your nandroid backup and vice versa if you make a nandroid of 2.2 and want to go back to it from 2.1
if you keep clockwork flashable versions of such needed kernels and modems as well as a nandroid of the original setup and the cwm update.zip file on your sdcard, you will never need odin...unless there is a major malfunction. this can all be done in CWM, but as i said, the noob-friendly, and surefire way to get a fresh install is ODIN. i dont think any other company has something like this available to flash back to stock, so the methods used on the roms in the galaxy s phones are slightly different than the roms for htc or motorola devices. to me, i think this is a major win for us, in that most things are easily recoverable using a windows tool
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That makes sense, thanks! Over in HTC-land we call them radios instead of modems, and kernel/spl/radio all have to be compatible. Most are compatible with each other so there is seldom a need to flash around.
So what I gather from your post is that if she starts on stock 2.1 and I flash cwm, then flash Cognition (2.2 rom) I will most likely need to update the modem to match? Or is that only the case with stock roms?
Phateless said:
That makes sense, thanks! Over in HTC-land we call them radios instead of modems, and kernel/spl/radio all have to be compatible. Most are compatible with each other so there is seldom a need to flash around.
So what I gather from your post is that if she starts on stock 2.1 and I flash cwm, then flash Cognition (2.2 rom) I will most likely need to update the modem to match? Or is that only the case with stock roms?
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most all the custom roms you will find will flash a kernel and modem that match and work properly with that rom
it really only applies to nandroid backups going from 2.1 to 2.2 and vice versa
Pirateghost said:
most all the custom roms you will find will flash a kernel and modem that match and work properly with that rom
it really only applies to nandroid backups going from 2.1 to 2.2 and vice versa
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So you're saying when you flash the rom it will flash the correct kernel and modem as part of update/install script?
So basically I just need to install CWM, flash the rom, and not worry about the rest?
Phateless said:
So you're saying when you flash the rom it will flash the correct kernel and modem as part of update/install script?
So basically I just need to install CWM, flash the rom, and not worry about the rest?
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yep
you dont need to worry about the rest until it comes time to flash to something else
there are a few options when that time comes:
use ODIN to restore to stock, then flash the next rom of your choosing
revert lagfix (if applied from the current rom you are running), then flash next rom of your choosing
if going back to a 2.1 NANDROID, not custom rom, then you will either need to odin, then flash.
or
flash 2.1 compatible kernel+modem and then restore your nandroid
Pirateghost said:
yep
you dont need to worry about the rest until it comes time to flash to something else
there are a few options when that time comes:
use ODIN to restore to stock, then flash the next rom of your choosing
revert lagfix (if applied from the current rom you are running), then flash next rom of your choosing
if going back to a 2.1 NANDROID, not custom rom, then you will either need to odin, then flash.
or
flash 2.1 compatible kernel+modem and then restore your nandroid
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Got it. That all makes sense except for the kernel. Shouldn't that be included in the nandroid? I know the modem probably resides on a separate partition...
Phateless said:
Got it. That all makes sense except for the kernel. Shouldn't that be included in the nandroid? I know the modem probably resides on a separate partition...
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the nandroid doesnt backup the kernel OR the modem as far as i know. either that or it doesnt flash them on the restore...
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the nandroid doesnt backup the kernel OR the modem as far as i know. either that or it doesnt flash them on the restore...
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At least with HTC the kernel is part of the Rom and IS included in nandroids.
I've searched and read FAQs a lot already. I read the threads that XDA suggested before posting this.
I've been doing a lot of reading and I'm a little fuzzy. Want to root my gf's AT&T Captivate (JH7) and install Froyo for her but still a little unclear on exactly how everything fits together.
From what I've gathered so far I can use the update.zip method to install Clockwork Recovery and make a nandroid backup of her current configuration without even rooting it, right?
Then can I just flash whichever ROM I want? Will the ROM.zip update her to the correct modem/kernel at that time?
About using ODIN to restore - do I restore to the version she is on NOW or the version the phone originally shipped with, if different? And do I REALLY need to ODIN restore between ROMs or is a full wipe with CWM recovery enough?
Also read that CWM recovery doesn't work with Froyo at this time so can't do nandroid backups of Froyo ROMs?
Somebody catch me up... with my mt3g and mt4g I'm totally comfortable but this stuff is confusing me. I'm fairly comfortable with adb and already used it to sideload an app for her without rooting.
Thanks for your help guys.
I'm pretty new at this too so I'll try to answer what I can.
Before you try anything, just make sure you can get into recovery and download mode.
Recovery:
- Hold Vol Up + Vol Down + Power button.
- from adb type reboot recovery
- from Rom Manager, select the Reboot to Recovery option.
Download
- Hold Vol Up + Vol Down and insert the usb cable. This works for me. Getting Odin to detect it can be a bit tricky. I usually start Odin first, then connect phone.
- from adb type reboot download (I think)
From what I've gathered so far I can use the update.zip method to install Clockwork Recovery and make a nandroid backup of her current configuration without even rooting it, right?
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Not sure to be honest. The way I do it is that I install Rom Manager from the market first. It will ask you for root though. I like this way better as you can download and install the appropriate update.zip from the app. Rooting is very very easy. You can use this tool:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=739304
Then can I just flash whichever ROM I want? Will the ROM.zip update her to the correct modem/kernel at that time?
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To be safe, I only try ROMs that I find in the Captivate Development sub forum. Most of them can be installed with CWM. Place the *.zip in the root of your internal SD card, reboot into CWM and select the install .zip from card option. Don't freak out.
There is also a way to flash roms from Odin but I've never tried it to be honest.
About using ODIN to restore - do I restore to the version she is on NOW or the version the phone originally shipped with, if different? And do I REALLY need to ODIN restore between ROMs or is a full wipe with CWM recovery enough?
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I believe it will restore to Samsung's stock version (I897UCJF6). Check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
Remember that this is only for the Captivate. It is safer to do a full restore whenever you are trying a new rom. The only exception, I think, is when you are upgrading versions (say, Darky's 7.8 to 8.0)
Also read that CWM recovery doesn't work with Froyo at this time so can't do nandroid backups of Froyo ROMs?
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I always install it using ROM manager and it works fine.
Now, from what I've been reading and doing this week, I learned that apart from the ROM, you can also flash the kernel and model separately, in case you have specific needs. For instance, I flashed glitterball's kernel to overclock the phone. Just remember that 2.1 Roms need 2.1 kernels and modems, the same applies for 2.2. Here is a list of modems: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835272
I'm currently trying out the TLJL3.
Remember that there are many ways to get to Rome. Also, use Titanium Backup to save your apps.
tl;dr:
1. Root.
2. Install CWM.
3. Verify that you can access recovery and download mode.
4. Download ROM (CWM .zip installable).
5. Read read read.
Much more detailed guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
LOADING CUSTOM ROMs
Phateless said:
I've searched and read FAQs a lot already. I read the threads that XDA suggested before posting this.
I've been doing a lot of reading and I'm a little fuzzy. Want to root my gf's AT&T Captivate (JH7) and install Froyo for her but still a little unclear on exactly how everything fits together.
From what I've gathered so far I can use the update.zip method to install Clockwork Recovery and make a nandroid backup of her current configuration without even rooting it, right?
Then can I just flash whichever ROM I want? Will the ROM.zip update her to the correct modem/kernel at that time?
About using ODIN to restore - do I restore to the version she is on NOW or the version the phone originally shipped with, if different? And do I REALLY need to ODIN restore between ROMs or is a full wipe with CWM recovery enough?
Also read that CWM recovery doesn't work with Froyo at this time so can't do nandroid backups of Froyo ROMs?
Somebody catch me up... with my mt3g and mt4g I'm totally comfortable but this stuff is confusing me. I'm fairly comfortable with adb and already used it to sideload an app for her without rooting.
Thanks for your help guys.
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Hmm... Most of your answers can be found in
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
The ROM file would contain a kernel and a modem that will update her current kernel and modem. She can flash the kernel and modem of her choice after installing a custom ROM without breaking anything.
For Backing up use Titanium Backup, u need to ROOT your phone using directions in the earlier link provided.
When using custom ROMs it is always better to do a full wipe and flash to stock and master clear, i.e JF6 (using Odin one-click, or Odin with 3-button) or JH7 using the DG version.
You can follow
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
Update.zip file once installed would load CWM from which you can install custom ROMs. Once you install custom ROMs, they are always rooted, and you needn't root again. It's a one time thing.
Hope this resolves everything..
Thanks for your replies, guys, I'm actually very familiar with rooting and flashing. To clarify, I already know HOW to install a custom ROM, that's not the issue. I'm more concerned about compatibility once I start installing custom stuff, and about UNROOTING if I need to. It sounds like if all I'm doing is installing a custom recovery and then a custom ROM, I don't really need to worry about it.
I always opt for manual method through recovery as opposed to Rom Manager.
I would use SuperOneClick for the stock ROM as I've used it before without issues. Most likely I would use the update.zip method to install clockwork recovery so I can make a nandroid backup of her completely unrooted stock setup before proceeding.
I can get into stock recovery just fine but haven't tried download mode yet.
And yes I would ONLY flash ROMs for the Captivate specifically, unless someone manages to complete a port for Sense.
Sounds like your good to go then.
... and Odin is just the cheap and easy method to return the phone back to stock.
So if you ever need to give it back and need it restored this is the easiest method to do it. But I would suggest formatting the internal SD Card to make sure there are no remnants of you playing around with the phone.
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Sounds like your good to go then.
... and Odin is just the cheap and easy method to return the phone back to stock.
So if you ever need to give it back and need it restored this is the easiest method to do it. But I would suggest formatting the internal SD Card to make sure there are no remnants of you playing around with the phone.
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Agreed, will definitely do that.
I also heard that when using ODIN to restore to JF6 the OTA update to JH7 won't come back on its own?
lol yea.. but it doesn't matter unless you were wanting to keep it on "stock".
If your flashing or returning the phone your ok with keeping it on JF6.
If your phone came with JH7 and you have issues with Odin one-click, you might want to look at this guide, it has worked great for me and many others:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=10056254&postcount=36
How do I know what build number her phone is? I see references to build number 1010, but I don't know if this phone CAME WITH jh7 or if that was an update. I bought it used. If I try to restore to JF6 will that brick it??
EDIT - found it. She's a 1007. So if I used ODIN-3 to restore to JF6, how do I get back to JH7? Reading elsewhere it seems that a nandroid restore won't include the baseband?
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So if I used ODIN-3 to restore to JF6, how do I get back to JH7? Reading elsewhere it seems that a nandroid restore won't include the baseband?
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Download the Mini Kies from here Download Center for SEG-I897ZKAATT.
Make sure the phone asks for USB on connection and select Kies mode when you plug into pc. Then open Mini Kies, it should recognize your phone and tell you an update is available. Follow the instructions from there.
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Download the Mini Kies from here Download Center for SEG-I897ZKAATT.
Make sure the phone asks for USB on connection and select Kies mode when you plug into pc. Then open Mini Kies, it should recognize your phone and tell you an update is available. Follow the instructions from there.
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Ok cool, thanks for your help! Already downloaded Kies from the Samsung website.
About to flash her phone but saw something somewhere about backing up some *.nv file to preserve her IMEI# and stuff? Can you link me to a guide on that? Can not for the life of me remember where I saw that.
Ok, i have read many posts, the one from ODIN and ask people, watched videos, and nothing. Im starting in the rooting process, im currently on Phoenix 2.5, before i flashed this rom i made a backup rom with Clockwork, i decided to restore to stock using clockwork, but it failed on me and i fear that my phone was bricked. I flashed again the phoenix rom, but i want to return to my stock rom, but i dont know why, i just want to flash darkys rom, but i dont know how to restore back to stock, if i use odin by default i have to do the master clear, please help me, i dont want to be stuck on this rom.
hernan078 said:
Ok, i have read many posts, the one from ODIN and ask people, watched videos, and nothing. Im starting in the rooting process, im currently on Phoenix 2.5, before i flashed this rom i made a backup rom with Clockwork, i decided to restore to stock using clockwork, but it failed on me and i fear that my phone was bricked. I flashed again the phoenix rom, but i want to return to my stock rom, but i dont know why, i just want to flash darkys rom, but i dont know how to restore back to stock, if i use odin by default i have to do the master clear, please help me, i dont want to be stuck on this rom.
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#1: Are you disabling Lagfix before flashing? If not, that may be your problem.
#2: Prepare to be flamed for posting in the devs section with a Q&A post.
hernan078 said:
Ok, i have read many posts, the one from ODIN and ask people, watched videos, and nothing. Im starting in the rooting process, im currently on Phoenix 2.5, before i flashed this rom i made a backup rom with Clockwork, i decided to restore to stock using clockwork, but it failed on me and i fear that my phone was bricked. I flashed again the phoenix rom, but i want to return to my stock rom, but i dont know why, i just want to flash darkys rom, but i dont know how to restore back to stock, if i use odin by default i have to do the master clear, please help me, i dont want to be stuck on this rom.
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POST IN THE RIGHT SECTION (I guess I had to do that, right??)
To answer your question - Gr8danes is right, you should be disabling your lagfix to restore your backup first.
Do this by going into your /sdcard/voodoo directory - Create a folder named "disable-lagfix" and reboot your phone. You will hear the robotic voice reconverting your file system - this will take about 3-5 minutes.
Then proceed with flashing your stock backup.
If that fails, you will have to use ODIN One Click to revert back to Eclair 2.1
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POST IN THE RIGHT SECTION (I guess I had to do that, right??)
To answer your question - Gr8danes is right, you should be disabling your lagfix to restore your backup first.
Do this by going into your /sdcard/voodoo directory - Create a folder named "disable-lagfix" and reboot your phone. You will hear the robotic voice reconverting your file system - this will take about 3-5 minutes.
Then proceed with flashing your stock backup.
If that fails, you will have to use ODIN One Click to revert back to Eclair 2.1
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So as long as the file system is restored (voodoo disabled) you CAN nandroid back to stock? Awesome.
thanks a lot, and sorry for posting in the wrong section.
Suppose everything fails, when i decide to use ODIN, do i need to do the master clear?
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thanks a lot, and sorry for posting in the wrong section.
Suppose everything fails, when i decide to use ODIN, do i need to do the master clear?
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no you do not need to master clear
also, the nandroid doesnt backup the KERNEL or the MODEM so you will likely get a bootloop after trying to restore your stock backup. in order to get back to stock, the best option is ODIN.
im using clockwork, i did the backup with clockwork
hernan078 said:
im using clockwork, i did the backup with clockwork
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yeah, clockwork doesnt backup/restore the stock kernel+modem for you (one of its downfalls on this phone it seems). thats a manual process. the other option is to use the JH7 stock+rooted rom, thats designed for clockwork
But if i disable the lagfix, and do the restore using clockwork, it will fail? I MUST USE ODIN?? If i have to use ODIN, whats the point of doing a backup stock rom?
Pirateghost said:
yeah, clockwork doesnt backup/restore the stock kernel+modem for you (one of its downfalls on this phone it seems). thats a manual process. the other option is to use the JH7 stock+rooted rom, thats designed for clockwork
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Haven't seen that around here, can you link?
Phateless said:
Haven't seen that around here, can you link?
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dont know of any links. i just know in my testing that is what happened.
if you look at a backup done in clockwork, there are the following files created:
cache.img
data.img
datadata.img
nandroid.md5
system.img
if you are flashing from a 2.2 rom to a 2.1 backup, you will get caught in a bootloop because you still have the kernel from 2.2, as cwm doesnt backup the kernel for our phones. if you flash a 2.1 kernel, via clockwork, or odin, your backup will boot up, but you will probably get FC's on a lot of things, because the modem is still a 2.2 modem, and causes instabilities. if you then flash a 2.1 modem, your backup will boot up without any issues. the best way to deal with this is to keep a 2.1 kernel and 2.1 modem CWM flashable zips on your sd card alongside your nandroid backup, flash the modem and kernel, then restore the backup.
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dont know of any links. i just know in my testing that is what happened.
if you look at a backup done in clockwork, there are the following files created:
cache.img
data.img
datadata.img
nandroid.md5
system.img
if you are flashing from a 2.2 rom to a 2.1 backup, you will get caught in a bootloop because you still have the kernel from 2.2, as cwm doesnt backup the kernel for our phones. if you flash a 2.1 kernel, via clockwork, or odin, your backup will boot up, but you will probably get FC's on a lot of things, because the modem is still a 2.2 modem, and causes instabilities. if you then flash a 2.1 modem, your backup will boot up without any issues. the best way to deal with this is to keep a 2.1 kernel and 2.1 modem CWM flashable zips on your sd card alongside your nandroid backup, flash the modem and kernel, then restore the backup.
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thats sounds to me like too much work, or things that i didnt do, best option is to use odin then, right?
hernan078 said:
But if i disable the lagfix, and do the restore using clockwork, it will fail? I MUST USE ODIN?? If i have to use ODIN, whats the point of doing a backup stock rom?
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It backs up apps and settings, but it isn't meant for restoring firmware versions.
If you just want to run Darky's then just flash it and skip the whole returning to stock step. It's really not necessary.
opcow said:
It backs up apps and settings, but it isn't meant for restoring firmware versions.
If you just want to run Darky's then just flash it and skip the whole returning to stock step. It's really not necessary.
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i dont need to go back to stock to flash another rom? i can just flash darkys on top of Phoenix?
hernan078 said:
i dont need to go back to stock to flash another rom? i can just flash darkys on top of Phoenix?
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You should use the option in cwm recovery for WIPE DATA/SYSTEM RESTORE before you do, but yes.
hernan078 said:
i dont need to go back to stock to flash another rom? i can just flash darkys on top of Phoenix?
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Yes, u don't have to restore stock first before flashing another rom, but like said above, make sure to do a factory reset in cwm..
As for odin, you don't have to master clear either, you can use either odin one click or download a stock rom from samfirmware.com and use regular odin...
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You should use the option in cwm recovery for WIPE DATA/SYSTEM RESTORE before you do, but yes.
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i didnt understood your instructions, i just see and option that says wipe data/facory reset, what do i do to install darkys rom, while still on phoenix?
hernan078 said:
i didnt understood your instructions, i just see and option that says wipe data/facory reset, what do i do to install darkys rom, while still on phoenix?
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Here are the install instructions from the first post of the Darky's thread:
HOW TO FLASH
Place the ROM on the root of your SD card.
Backup your apps using Titanium Backup.
Open ROM Manager (Downloadable from the market)
Choose "Install ROM from SD card". If after you flash and you have problems like force closes and you can't receive calls, wipe data/cache.
Let the phone sit for 5-10 minutes after booting.
Be happy.
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That's pretty much how I've done it with all the ROMs I've used for the last couple of months, except that I boot to recovery mode to choose the ROM and start the install.
ok, thanks a lot guys, i spent all my thanks for today, but the conclusion is that i can flash darkys rom on top of phoenix, restoring back to stock will be if i want to take it for warranty or something like that right?
hernan078 said:
ok, thanks a lot guys, i spent all my thanks for today, but the conclusion is that i can flash darkys rom on top of phoenix, restoring back to stock will be if i want to take it for warranty or something like that right?
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That's my opinion. The install script formats and deletes everything anyway, so going back to stock is superfluous. Some people disagree, but as per my other post, the Darky's instructions say nothing about flashing stock.
I went a couple of months without going back to stock and in that time I flashed various versions of Cognition, Darky's, di11igaf, Assonance, Perception, Axura, Phoenix, Doc's, Serendipity and probably others I've forgotten. I only flashed stock the other day because I sent my phone back to Samsung to see if I can get one with working GPS.
Is it ok to upgrade from Assonance 5.2 to Cognition 3.04 directly? or do I have to go back to stock and then upgrade?
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I think the recommended way is to go back to stock and flash.
It is recommended to return to stock first.
Having said that, I have flashed about 100 times, and never returned to stock first. If the ROM has a wipe, and no wipe option, just choose the WIPE version, and you should be OK.
If your NEW to flashing - I would suggest going back to stock.
I would read the instructions of the chef/developer on if you need to disable any type of lagfixes etc before attempting to flash over the top of another ROM.
And the reason for flashing back to stock as it will wipe all remnants of the prior ROM (where it matters) from your phone letting you kind of start "fresh". This prevents any type of conflicts (i.e. forgot to disable the prior lagfix) and soft bricking your phone.
So - flash away as long as you understand how to recover from a failed flash.
Do not use odin 1 click if you have a build 1010 phone. There is a longer route you have to take to get back to stock. In general, just erase all user data from clockwork if you have the red recovery and are moving to another rom with the voodoo lagfix. Save odin for brick situations or if you are having problems.
Can =/= should. Spare yourself the trouble and time later, and just spend the time now to do it right. Backup, flash stock, master clear, load new ROM. No guesses, no trouble.
thanks folks so, if I have to flash to stock, can I use the stock rom saved/backed up in clockworks when I originally flashed? or is there any other method I should follow?
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One click odin has the OEM ATT ROM built into it. Bloatware and all.
Scenario:
- I'm running Phoenix 4 ROM
- I want to try another ROM
- I have a copy of the JH7_OTA-1.zip
Can I just use ClockworkMod Recovery to flash the JH7_OTA ROM, then do a master clear from the phone and then apply any ROM I want?
Would that not accomplish the same thing as putting the phone in download mode and doing a stock restore via ODIN, followed by a Master Clear, and then flashing any ROM?
Can someone clear this up for me because it seems that both methods accomplish the same thing. They restore your phone to factory stock ROM as it's suggested by majority of the ROM before applying them.
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You can go from one rom to another without flashing stock.
I just went from doc jpy base to andromeda armani base. All I did was disable lag fix and kernel tweaks then flashed
I did so knowing I had odin just in case
What mcord11758 said except you don't actually need to disable anything. Just flash.
So that's the confusing part because:
Cognition ROM used to saynow there is just a DL link)
"flash back to I897UCJF6 (Recommended)"
and
How to flash PHOENIX Roms:
"1. BACK UP!!!
2. Use Odin One click to Flash Stock
2a. Wait for it to reboot and then re-enable debugging, hook phone back up to pc and Master Clear"
I got the concept that if running any lagfix it's best to disable it when updating the same ROM to a newer version but when doing a factory ROM it wipes out the ROM contents including the file-system format be it EXT4/EXT3 back to the Samsung RFS.
I would love to hear from one of the developers but I couldn't ask this question in the Dev Forum due too my n00b posting status.
Thanks for anyone who takes the time to provide some insight.
Phoenix and cognition both use ext 4 filing and the clockwork recovery built in understand it.
You have no less risk flashing jh7. in essence you are doing the same thing
flashing stock was more necessary when recovery could not understand ext 4. Today you can change to three different kernels in one day without ever disabling a lagfix
Vezee said:
I got the concept that if running any lagfix it's best to disable it when updating the same ROM to a newer version but when doing a factory ROM it wipes out the ROM contents including the file-system format be it EXT4/EXT3 back to the Samsung RFS.
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The partitions get formatted either way (unless it's now wipe, in which case I guess data and datadb don't). If are running ext4 and your new kernel supports ext4 then why disable it?
mcord11758 said:
Phoenix and cognition both use ext 4 filing and the clockwork recovery built in understand it.
You have no less risk flashing jh7. in essence you are doing the same thing
flashing stock was more necessary when recovery could not understand ext 4. Today you can change to three different kernels in one day without ever disabling a lagfix
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Thanks, that was the answer I was looking form I didn't exactly understand that the restriction was the recovery rom. It makes sense.